The Nineteenth Byte

Downgoat

21:00

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ask on code review >:D

flawr

@AlexA. Trying to find some data on this: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/8736/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat ~~>:D~~ nope

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ .children'schildren, AKA .grandchildren

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA.  test plain thing

Alex A.

@flawr I ninja'd it from you. ;D

Quill

21:00

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ uhhh, I think there's an outer text property

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Not grandchildren, but targeting plain

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ why are you using a css classt o classify children?

flawr

@AlexA. What?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Quill I know, but I need to recursively parse it.

Alex A.

@flawr I posted an answer that has the data you're looking for.

flawr

21:01

I'm still trying to get the DAMN data.stackoverflow.com print ANYTHING.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat ? element.children

Downgoat

uhh

Alex A.

@flawr Weird. SEDE could be down ATM.

Quill

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ use range.createContextualFragment

Downgoat

works for me though

Quill

21:02

function convertToDomDoc(htmlString){
    var range = document.createRange();
    return range.createContextualFragment(htmlString);
}

Downgoat

@Quill -1 for camel case. Pascal case is the best

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat Camel case is JavaScript style though...

Alex A.

SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE_IS_BEST_CASE

Quill

@Downgoat github.com/airbnb/javascript#naming--camelCase

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Quill :D thanks! TIL!

Sherlock9

21:03

Clearly, golf-style one-byte variable names are the best

Alex A.

@Quill Why AirBNB?

Quill

There's a DOM parser class, but I couldn't get it to work

@AlexA. They just wrote a good style guide

Alex A.

Okay

Downgoat

@AlexA. because it's the one that supports his point

Quill

A lot of the big companies that use entire javascript stacks like to write their own js style guide

Alex A.

21:04

Kind of like how Panda Strike wrote a good Ruby style guide

@Downgoat oh damn son, rekt

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Quill How do I access it's properties? Numeric things don't work

Downgoat

@Quill wrong there,, use their

Quill

yeah... I'm really tired

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ click the numbers, copy the fragmented urls

Downgoat

They are 27 programmers in this room and none of them know how to write a bootloader :(

Alex A.

Go to shoe store, purchase boot, load it with foot

Dennis

21:06

That's because there's no good reason to write an OS.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat At least 1 of them doesn't know what that is.

@Quill which numbers??

Downgoat

@Dennis ಠ_ಠ

Quill

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ oh hai dat'd be me

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Quill moi aussi

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ who?

oh

Sherlock9

21:07

@AlexA. Got a link?

Alex A.

@Dennis That Schizophrenic dude that wrote TempleOS surely doesn't agree with you!

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ a bootloader is a thing that goes into the master boot record (a thing the computer uses to figure out what to boot). and boots the kernel (the basic part of the SO).

flawr

It seems the YEAR function is causing problems.

Quill

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat and booting is just starting up right?

Alex A.

21:08

@flawr You want datepart(year, CreationDate)

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yes

I have the code to display stuff but I don't know how to boot it :/

Alex A.

@Sherlock9 It's been a while since I've seen it but I'll try to find it again.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Quill o_o

Sherlock9

@AlexA. Thank you

flawr

@AlexA. Strange, I was so damn sure that year() was a correct command.

Downgoat

21:10

even stranger: It works fine for me

Sherlock9

@mınxomaτ In response, gist.github.com/bemeurer/8a768991e5636b330472

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

var messages = document.querySelectorAll(".content");
var msg = messages[messages.length - 1];
var range = document.createRange();
var frag = range.createContextualFragment(msg.innerHTML);

Sherlock9

Sorry, didn't mean for that to onebox

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

How do I access the properties of frag?

Alex A.

@Sherlock9 I guess technically they didn't really write it; it's a fork of another Ruby style guide. See here

Sherlock9

21:11

Alright, thank you

Alex A.

@Sherlock9 TIL that gists onebox :O

@Sherlock9 Anytime!

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ very carefully so it doesn't blow up

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat ._. is there a javascript chatroom somewhere?

Alex A.

@flawr ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SEDE uses Transact-SQL, which may or may not have that function. All I know is that datepart(year, ...) will get you what you're looking for.

Downgoat

there should be one...

Alex A.

21:12

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes, as part of chat.stackoverflow.com

Their chat is separate from chat.stackexchange.com

Downgoat

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/37234/javascript

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Do they accept questions?

Quill

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I had one going on CR for a while, but it died

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Probably

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think so

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:13

goodness gracious the pings

Quill

it's not that they don't accept them

they get heaps of help vampires show up

flawr

@AlexA. Strangely as soon as I add that to a minimal example it stops working.

Quill

I've seen meta-room chatrooms get flooded with vamps

Sherlock9

@AlexA. That gist was written by a CR guy, and I figured it was a good response to minxomat's picture

Alex A.

@flawr Add what?

Downgoat

21:15

is there an OS development / bootloader chatroom?

Alex A.

Probably

Quill

@Downgoat probably not

Downgoat

D:

Alex A.

If there is it's in chat.stackoverflow

flawr

@AlexA. The date.

Downgoat

21:16

can I ask a "how do I make a bootloader" on stackoverflow or will it be downvoted in to oblivion?

flawr

(with the command you showed me)

Bernard Meurer

Heya

Alex A.

@flawr Can you be more specific? What are you doing that isn't working?

@BernardMeurer Hello!

Bernard Meurer

@Sherlock9 Told me to share my new development methodology with you guys

Downgoat

@BernardMeurer Hi!

Bernard Meurer

21:17

gist.github.com/bemeurer/8a768991e5636b330472

Sherlock9

I merely shared the silliness :D

Downgoat

I just realized I have spent like 4 hours today trying to make a bootloader and not written one byte of code O_o

(for the bootloader)

Bernard Meurer

Silliness? That's true for a lot of devs :p

Quill

@Downgoat here

Downgoat

@Quill what do you think was the first thing I googled?

flawr

21:18

@AlexA. SELECT Id FROM Posts WHERE PostTypeId = 1 and datepart(year, CreationDate)> 2015;

Quill

@Downgoat "relaxing whale music"

Sherlock9

@BernardMeurer While you're here, do you know how to make a bootloader?

flawr

As soon as I add the and datepart... it doesn't work anymore.

Quill

great way to start off a long development session

flawr

But I think I have to give up for now

Downgoat

21:18

@Quill ಠ_ಠ ~~how did you know...~~

Alex A.

@flawr What do you mean doesn't work?

Sherlock9

@BernardMeurer Hence why I'm laughing at it. Otherwise, I'd cry :')

Bernard Meurer

@Sherlock9 Mate, I make ARM boards cry blood with bad assembly code, I ain't got nothing to do with no bootloader

flawr

It is just loading forever and never printing a result.

Alex A.

@Quill that shit is my jam, son

Quill

21:19

@AlexA. is jam dam's brother

Alex A.

@flawr Hm

Quill

jam son and dam son

Sherlock9

@BernardMeurer Welp, it was worth a shot :D

Downgoat

@BernardMeurer there is bad assembly code? subtly drags all my assembly code into trash.

Bernard Meurer

@Sherlock9 On a serious note tho I have worked on implementing the a Linux kernel bootloader on ARM microprocessors

Whatcha need?

@Downgoat Yes, all assembly code pretty much

Downgoat

21:21

@BernardMeurer you know how to make a bootloader??? :D

Sherlock9

Well, Downgoat is the one that's looking for help with bootloaders. I just figured I'd ask for them

Bernard Meurer

Ehm, I can implement a bootloader

flawr

@AlexA. Don't worry, I just don't have the patience anymore at that time of the day. Spent too much time trying to get some c++ stuff to work over the last few days=)

Downgoat

ok, here's my code: github.com/jQueryOS/AvocadOS/blob/master/boot.asm

Bernard Meurer

Which is why I can now play doom on my calculator :)

3

OH NO

JQUERY

ARGH

flawr

21:21

@BernardMeurer Doomed?

Alex A.

@flawr Getting C++ to cooperate can be trying in and of itself :P

Sherlock9

@BernardMeurer That's cool :D

Downgoat

@BernardMeurer XD

Quill

I think one of the guys in the JS room wrote a bootloader in JS

Bernard Meurer

@Sherlock9 I have some pictures if you want:p

Sherlock9

21:22

I would love some

Bernard Meurer

That and me running linux on the same calculator

Gimme a moment

flawr

@AlexA. Well the first step wasn't even cooperating, but doing anything except throwing around with red evil errors XD

Downgoat

@Quill how do you write a bootloader in JS?

Bernard Meurer

@Downgoat I'll take a look at your code in a second

flawr

Oh, now there was a success after about 15 min of loading!!!!

Alex A.

21:23

@Downgoat require('bootloader.js')

Downgoat

@BernardMeurer thanks so much :D

Quill

@Downgoat well he wrote it enough to let you use windows 98 and a bunch of other operating systems

Bernard Meurer

33 lines? Papa bless this will take a while

Alex A.

Who is Papa Bless?

Downgoat

@Quill O_o

Bernard Meurer

21:24

@AlexA. Papa is whichever god is out there, and he's blessing the code

Or it can be Papa john from papa john's pizza

your pick

Downgoat

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by JustinKaz

in javascript.... what are you loading ?

Bernard Meurer

import project, a dab of Python'll do ya

Alrighty @Downgoat What is happening here, where is the loading?

Downgoat

@BernardMeurer i a, trying to make a bootloader to this kernel: github.com/jQueryOS/AvocadOS/tree/master/kernel

Bernard Meurer

4

Downgoat

@BernardMeurer woah

Bernard Meurer

21:29

LINUX

Take that netBSD

Alex A.

AvocadOS

Discussion for the design and creation of AvocadOS. How juic o...

^ Might be a better place for discussing how to build a bootloader

Since (I assume) it's for that project

Quill

Wait. Did you just try de-topic-ify this room @AlexA?

Alex A.

?

Just seems like it'd be a good place for it since it's relevant to that project

Bernard Meurer

@Downgoat I'll be honest, I have no clue right now

BUT

flawr

BUTT

Bernard Meurer

21:32

I think I have a working bootloader somewhere here

flawr

BOOBLOADER

Downgoat

:D

@flawr ಠ_ಠ

flawr

@Downgoat ಠ‿ಠ

Downgoat

¯\_( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ) _/¯

Quill

Face2Face: Real-time Face Capture and Reenactment of RGB Videos (CVPR 2016 Oral)

►

flawr

21:37

theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/19/…

plane-crash

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Downgoat

@Quill o_o

@flawr D':

flawr

@Downgoat Agree D:

Lynn

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flawr

@AlexA. How long does such a query take to load for you?

Downgoat

21:40

@flawr ~70ms

Alex A.

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flawr

@AlexA. So 13 min is above average?

Lynn

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phase

21:43

can we just pin them to the top of the site so we don't get any more duplicates?

Helka Homba

@BernardMeurer Do students still use graphing calculators if they have smartphones?

Bernard Meurer

@HelkaHomba My phone doesn't play doom

Nor run linux

And the SAT's require a calculator

little did they know

Helka Homba

@BernardMeurer Oh I suppose

Bernard Meurer

@HelkaHomba Isn't Helka a volcano?

phase

I found out (on iFunny) that you can plug in a mouse into Android and it would work, but I don't have a reverse miniusb to usb so i can no do it

Bernard Meurer

21:46

No, that's hekla

nevermind

flawr

@Lynn #QuineLivesMatter

Lynn

@HelkaHomba My phone has a TI-84 emulator on it ._.

flawr

@Lynn My TI has tetris.

Helka Homba

@Lynn That's what I mean. Who really needs a graphing calc now

Lynn

Seriously, the thing I lack most on a phone is something like TI-BASIC to goof around with.

phase

21:48

@HelkaHomba phones aren't allowed in class

Bernard Meurer

BASIC: Just a bit of a goof

phase

at least for younger classes

Basic: Basic Ascii Syntax Instruction Copyright

Lynn

You can't comfortably write code on a smartphone. I dunno what it was about the TI-83, but it felt very snug.

Helka Homba

Do kids pass notes anymore or is it all texting under the table?

K Zhang

TI-ASM is fun. Especially when you make infinite loops :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:50

@HelkaHomba They do, because my school doesn't allow phones outside of lockers.

Lynn

@HelkaHomba It’s the future. The kids I teach (age 16) take photos of the blackboard instead of taking notes. T_T

Bernard Meurer

@Lynn Same here

What do you teach?

Downgoat

does mac mount USB as tty devices?

Lynn

I’m a math tutor; I’m participating in my university’s tutoring program

Bernard Meurer

@Downgoat Think so

@Lynn I teach maths too, the struggle is real

Lynn

21:52

It’s a one-time thing I wanted to try out. The conclusion is I don’t think I could do it for a living at all @_@

Alex A.

@Lynn In college there was a guy who did that with an actual camera, flash and all. It was quite disruptive.

Sherlock9

@Lynn Which app is this?

Lynn

It’s sort of fun? But, a little frustrating

@Sherlock9 WabbitEmu

Bernard Meurer

@AlexA. Shhhh, don't say College near me

Lynn

It helps you download a ROM legally and everything!

Alex A.

21:52

@BernardMeurer Um, sorry?

Lynn

@AlexA. That is amazing

Sherlock9

Excellent. Now I can try TI calculators mwahahahaha

Helka Homba

@Lynn I find that ridiculous. I remember my peers doing that in college. You're not going to absorb anything you're being taught if you don't write it down!

Bernard Meurer

@Lynn I don't think things get fixated as well when you just take a picture, I rather they write it down

Sherlock9

@BernardMeurer I am in sophomore year. Fourth semester starts on the 28th

Lynn

21:53

I’m imagining a Polaroid camera so it’s funnier

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba Exactly why I always wrote everything. I still take notes all the time if I want to actually remember something.

Bernard Meurer

I just applied to schools in the US, it's decisions season and I'm almost having a heart attack everyday

Sherlock9

@Lynn This is true. I have tried it and writing code on a smartphone is a pain in the butt

Lynn

+ Yeah, if I don’t take notes (a) I won’t gain any handwriting EXP points, and (b) my attention trails off elsewhere

Bernard Meurer

My attention trails off when I'm taking notes @_@

Sherlock9

21:55

Honestly, I think if you can, leave the US for university. The university system is scary in many ways

Bernard Meurer

I'm Brazilian :p

Sherlock9

Honestly, if you can, stay out of the US for university :P

Bernard Meurer

in Brazil, going to the US (if papa blesses it)

Alex A.

@BernardMeurer A friend of mine is from Brazil and is in the US for university.

Bernard Meurer

@Sherlock9 How old are you?

@AlexA. May I ask which school?

Sherlock9

21:56

I'm 20, and living in Indonesia

Canada is cool, the UK is cool. Heck, Indonesia has decent international CS programs for a fraction of the cost

Alex A.

@BernardMeurer DigiPen Institute of Technology

It's centered around making video games

Bernard Meurer

But US schools have all that fancy research money that just makes me drool

Alex A.

Same school my girlfriend goes to

Bernard Meurer

I applied to Waterloo tho (in Canada)

Alex A.

Which US schools did you apply to?

I'm partial to the University of Washington in Seattle. Who knows why... :P

cough UW is best school cough

cough the UW CS department is stupidly well funded cough

Bernard Meurer

21:58

@AlexA. NCSU, GA Tech, VA Tech, UC (Berkeley, SD, Davis), Cornell, UPenn, Minnesota (Twin Cities), Waterloo (Canada)

I think that's all

Oh UIUC

Alex A.

The UC system is boss as fuck. I applied to Berkeley and Davis for grad school.

Bernard Meurer

So far: Davis: Denied, UIUC: Denied, UCSD: Accepted, VA Tech: Accepter, GA Tech: Waitlist

Alex A.

UPenn is also a really good school.

mınxomaτ

@BernardMeurer Well if it is that, then come to Germany.

Bernard Meurer

the rest is unknown and it's literally killing me

mınxomaτ

21:59

I promise we won't remind you of that world cup game :P

Alex A.

ETH Zurich!

Bernard Meurer

@mınxomaτ My german is less than ideal

@mınxomaτ fite me

AvocadOS

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