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12:13 AM

 Talk of Salem

ToS discussion for CodeGolf.SE folks
@AquaTart @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ @EasterlyIrk ^
 
Oh, good idea.
Move all the junk messages there.
 
Thanks.
 
12:16 AM
thanks.
 
why did the authors have to pick such an awkward name for one of their algorithms?
 
moving day!
 
> A sample execution of GreedyASS. Search elements are represented as solid disks. For the latest search, GreedyASS sweeps right, placing points when the greatest last access time seen increases. The staircase represents these increasing last access times.
 
12:18 AM
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ seriously, you should join the PPCG server.
 
@PhiNotPi ASS = arborally satisfied superset I take it?
I don't think that's a coincidence though. They could have named that something else and still had it make sense...
 
12:21 AM
Angle Side Side >_>
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ But then you couldn't say "Don't try to prove congruence with the ASS theorem or you will make an ASS out of yourself."
Plus that doesn't come up that much :P
 
It does in my geo class a lot
BTW do bug fixes invalidate the competitiveness of an answer?
 
Yes
 
What do you mean by "bug fixes"?
 
12:24 AM
There was a bug in my interpreter, and I fixed it.
 
Neutering insects, I believe
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ TBH, I think it depends how "obvious" the bug is.
 
@PhiNotPi My unique function didn't work, and I forgot a line of code specifying the arity of a function.
 
Current policy is that if your answer uses a version of the interpreter newer than the challenge, regardless of what changed between versions, the answer is noncompeting.
 
Okai
I can still post the answer under noncompeting, right? (Just making sure.)
 
12:26 AM
Could be a minor bug fix, could be adding a comment, could be refactoring the entire thing
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Of course
 
Okay cool XD
 
My solution: quietly fix whatever the problem was without telling anybody.
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
12:44 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ But I always thought it was Side Angle Side
 
There's a lot of them
 
> Great repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How about bookish-sniffle.
wth
 
@EasterlyIrk what is dnethack
 
a variant of nethack.
@epicTCK wanna play PPCG minecraft server?
 
Nethack4 is better though
 
12:52 AM
It's d nethack
the nethack
BAD UM TSS
 
ಠ_ಠ
@AquaTart eh.
Lightsabers are cool.
I like anachronuats.
 
I wonder if ಠ_ಠ is the most common exact message here by now
 
probably.
or ^.
or ^^.
 
nah, downloading netback as we speak.
 
or _UNK
 
12:55 AM
Definitely one of ['^', '^^','ಠ_ಠ']
@epicTCK dnethack is different, just warning you.
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is probably close too
Or hi
 
do 'ssh nethack@dank.ninja'. @epicTCK
Then register.
YOu can play pretty much anything on that server.
 
what OS do you have?
 
mac
Should work on windows too though.
 
I have a mac too
 
12:57 AM
dnethack you have to build from source to play locally.
 
well, my mom does...
 
@epicTCK \o/
roflmao
 
@MyHamDJ Remove one spike-thingy each to make pythonic rabbits
 
I wonder where _UNK and how does juice an avocado I have try for thirtee minut and no juic are in the top exact messages list.
 
which one should I play, @EasterlyIrk netback 4 or dnethack 3.12
 
12:58 AM
Regular nethack first.
ssh nethack@nethack.alt.org
Read the guidebook and the wikis first.
 
i'm on ssh nethack@dank.ninja
 
If you have trouble, you can try Nethack 4 ssh nethack43@nethack4.org
It's a little bit easier than regular Nethack if you know a bit more about Nethack
 
Wait, _UNK only has half a page and the second one has no exact ones :(
 
I thought you were supposed to figure things out, @AquaTart its a rouge explorer why read the manual???
lol
 
@epicTCK Uhh
Because Nethack is the most complicated game known to mankind
You will die
Painfully
Many
Many times
 
1:01 AM
I thought it was generated by a perl script that was made by slamming your face on the keyboard tho
 
roflmao
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ still that would be the most complicated game
 
I stand uncorrected...
 
Damn. nethack is complicated...
 
TIL there are ~14 search pages of the exact message 'ಠ_ಠ', and another ~5 of pings of 'ಠ_ಠ'. (Also, it's been used 2615 times)
5
 
1:07 AM
@CoolestVeto need to talk in PPCG minecraft chat so i can ping from there.
But there is a chorus flower farm outside your house now. ^_^
@epicTCK ping @AquaTart for help.
 
kk
its all text based I assume I don't need a mouse... ?
@AquaTart
 
@epicTCK You better read the guidebook first.
Also, make sure num_pad is off
 
couldn't find it. The wiki didn't have a section for n00bs
 
@epicTCK Google nethack beginner's guide
 
It's the official guidebook
 
1:13 AM
I could've won, if not for a bug :(
 
wait how do I turn off num_pad?
 
hit O (shift-o)
nvm
 
In your config.
 
create .nethackrc in your home folder
 
@EasterlyIrk I assume he's on NAO
Exit to NAO's main menu
There will be a place to edit your config
Look for num_pad and set it to 0
 
1:15 AM
@EasterlyIrk Or dotfiles
 
put the line "OPTIONS=num_pad:0" in your .nethackrc if on your own computer.
 
@EasterlyIrk Unless you're on NAO
 
> if on your own computer
@epicTCK
 
Me:
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A: Craft the longest Scrabble sentence

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OP:
> Last seen Jan 6 at 19:57
Me:
So much for ...
 
I'm on a server, can't install it i don't have root on my moms mac :[
 
1:17 AM
NAO or nethack@dank.ninja?
 
@LegionMammal978 Believe it or not, millions and millions of people are not addicted to SE
10
 
dank ninja
 
Did you get it?
 
taken out of context, that sounds weird
get what @EasterlyIrk
 
numpad off
 
1:19 AM
no
 
@HelkaHomba I wish you said SO and it would be the best out of context in a while.
 
brb making GIF of what to do
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ nope, bc what happens if you add an X on the end?
 
killed two grid bugs the n00b feels like a boss rn
 
Hey, my first contribution in a while:
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Q: Which side is larger? $ \ \ \ \ \sqrt{15} \ - \ \sqrt{7} \ + \ \sqrt{5} \ + \ \sqrt{2} \ \ \ or \ \ \ 5$

Olive StemfornWhich side is larger? $ \ \ \ \sqrt{15} \ - \ \sqrt{7} \ + \ \sqrt{5} \ + \ \sqrt{2} \ \ \ or \ \ \ 5$ Without using a calculator, computer, or estimating square roots, please determine which side has the larger value.

 
1:22 AM
@epicTCK ^
Press N (shift - n) to start editing.
 
btw I know how to use nano
how to get out of a game though
 
shift s
then hit y
 
@epicTCK Grid Bugs are the easiest enemy in the game
 
i assumed that
 
:P
 
who the heck is idefix
 
We are the 9.8% that are ninjas
 
@epicTCK That's your dog.
 
he's getting on my nerves
 
I thought you said you read the guidebook...
 
1:25 AM
no kill
bad stuff if kill
 
Also I take it you picked barbarian
 
no I'm a um female orc it picked for me
i should just restart after reading the guidebook...
 
@epicTCK I meant your role
 
idk then
gtg
 
1:31 AM
bai
 
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Q: What makes the "Who has the hat puzzle" so hard? How can this be effectively reused?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴTL;DR: How do I use "outside of the box" thinking well in puzzle making? One of my friends came to school with a puzzle. It's a rather popular puzzle, but, us never having heard of it before, were unaware. This is sort of how the conversation went down. Puzzle Friend: Hey guys! I have a puzz...

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1:43 AM
Does anyone know how I can evaluate JavaScript code using a blank (new) scope?
 
IIFE?
 
(function(codez) {
  eval(codez)
})(<insert codez>);
There may or may not have been a time when I knew how to use JS
 
var x = 3;
(function(c){
  alert(eval(c));
})("x + 3");
I want this to error.
 
It should?
Oh I see
 
1:48 AM
Hello
 
World!
crap
 
So I was trying to make a grayscale texture pack for minecraft
 
Oh? I tried that once.
 
1:49 AM
But there are some weird textures that are really messing it up
For example, the game won't let you change the color of potions or tipped arrows
(And the color of birch leaves also isn't changing for some reason, even though every other leaf type I've checked has worked...)
 
It's digitaltrauma
wtf happened tho
 
In other news: I decided to enter another Planet Minecraft contest
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ an answer you downvoted was deleted
 
2:01 AM
answer*
 
I knew what you meant
 
I'll probably also make something for Mumbo Jumbo's Ultimate Redstone Killing Machine contest
 
I'm just trying to get 1k+ rep on puzzling >_>
 
Looks like you didn't write your whole an — Mogsdad 3 mins ago
 
2:12 AM
rofl
@SuperJedi224 for what?
 
10 mins ago, by SuperJedi224
I'll probably also make something for Mumbo Jumbo's Ultimate Redstone Killing Machine contest
 
@SuperJedi224 Blame caching.
 
> also
 
2:14 AM
oops at that
 
ObjectOrientedProgrammingS at that too
 
roflmao
 
@EasterlyIrk shouldn't you have twoo l s in the middle?
 
roflmao
@Vihan still wrong
 
2:18 AM
hey spelling is hard
 
^^
especially when you have hooves instead of fingers
 
@Vihan thanks for the amusement.
@Vihan Sorry buddy.
 
@Vihan use a big keyboard with massive keys
 
@Quill I can't find any on amazon
 
2:20 AM
Why is the maximum length for chat commands so ridiculously short?
 
@SuperJedi224 chat commands?
 
@Vihan Minecraft
 
@EasterlyIrk still not big enough
D:
 
@Dennis perfect. Does it work with Mac?
 
@Vihan I'm not sure. Probably. gizmodo.com/393884/…
@Vihan ಠ___ಠ
 
@Vihan hnooooooooooo
flags as offensive /s
 
It's not even the rotating one ಠ_ಠ
 
2:25 AM
It's still pretty disturbing...
 
how
 
OK, this definitely works with Mac.
 
img.user-image, .ob-youtube {
    opacity: 0;
}
 
user image
2
 
2:26 AM
If you can't see how, you need serious help.
 
@Dennis 1-1 no goat meoji
 
Meowjies are for cats.
 
that is distrurbing
 
stoppppp
 
then don't post it?
4
 
2:27 AM
^
 
> dailymail.co.uk
@Quill why not?
 
BECAUSE IT IS DISTURBING
I am beginning to think you need professional help.
 
Goodnight
 
night
@SuperJedi224 what time is it for you?
 
it's to late to edit/delete :|
@EasterlyIrk :(
 
2:30 AM
It's never too late.
 
@Dennis thank you
 
> 0 people like this topic
 
2:31 AM
> For a woman to dream of riding a billy goat, denotes that she will be held
in disrepute because of her coarse and ill-bred conduct.
wat ._.
 
wtf did I just walk in on
 
We are getting @Vihan professional help.
 
I think we all need that.
 
And I thought the meowji keyboard was weird.
 
cool
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yes.
 
> The Incredible Device Puts Keyboard, Mouse And Joystick All In One
why?
 
I WANT ONE!
but yeah
why?
 
Gaming, apparently.
 
brb eating dinner
@Dennis maybe for VR soon?
Looks goodish for that.
 
2:36 AM
VR?
 
bai @EasterlyIrk
 
@Dennis VR = Virtual Reality
 
Oh, I thought that was a new game I did not know about. (Haven't really played anything since Starcraft 2.)
 
@Dennis Yeah, Razer sells one similar
 
2:42 AM
Razer Tartarus
iirc
 
I don't think I'd enjoy a game that requires specialized equipment...
 
@AquaTart and the orbweaver
 
Ah, it feels so great to think it's almost 10, realize you changed timezones, and get an extra two hours.
 
It's almost 11 here >_>
curse you monsieaಠyᴇuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur knobs
 
> monsier
 
2:44 AM
> monsiear
 
> monsieaor
 
> monsieaoyr
 
> monsieaoyᴇr
 
> monsieaouyᴇr
 
> monsieaoyᴇuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur
 
2:46 AM
Now I can't edit it XD
 
> monsieaಠyᴇuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur
 
can someone mod abuse-11 that in?
 
eleven
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ back. :P
 
welcome back! you missed about nothing
 
2:48 AM
@Doorknob CA, right?
 
yep
 
THE BEST STATE IN THE US EXCEPT FOR POSSIBLY WASHINGTON
 
@Doorknob Welcome to best timezone
 
According to @AlexA., washington is better.
 
@EasterlyIrk Pennsylvania though!
 
2:49 AM
@EasterlyIrk US is a state?
 
@AlexA. is that just because you mom is there?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Have family there.
In Lewisberry. You near there?
 
I've never met a bad person from Pennsylvania.
 
@EasterlyIrk My entire family, me, my girlfriend, her family, and almost all of my friends are there as well
 
I don't actually live there.
 
2:50 AM
I've never met a bad person from Pennsylvania
I've never met a person from Pennsylvania
 
@AlexA. So it's like majority rules? ಠ_ಠ
 
@Doorknob Ah, Drinker's paradox.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what's with the "?
 
2:50 AM
@Vihan It's like a sweat drop
 
@EasterlyIrk Idk, I was born and raised in Washington and haven't lived anywhere else. I've been to other states but Washington is just... better.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ oh, I prefer: 😅
@AlexA. do the libraries there have goat-hoove sized keyboards?
 
The one near me actually has a giant working one.
 
@Vihan Yes
 
2:52 AM
Like literally 2 ft by 2ft keys.
 
god help the latecomer to any one of this room's conversations
9
 
What the heck GitHub
 
@AlexA. Washington is the best
 
@EasterlyIrk really?
 
2:52 AM
@ZachGates Guitar Hero with Source Control
 
@Quill Exactly haha
It's the Gogh network graph, but how is that even possible haha
It's like it tried to merge, got halfway and said "Nah, I'll do it later"
 
 
My coding blog got 51 views on pi day.
 
^^^ whenever I enter this room at the wrong time
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ cergos or something else?
 
2:54 AM
> buttons-for-website.com
 
if other, pls link
 
What the dump
 
@ZachGates wat ._.
 
2:57 AM
What does mutate mean in the context of coding?
 
@PHP_CEO, PHPCEO@OUTLOOK.COM
CEO OF A PHP COMPANY. DISAPPOINTING HUSBAND. DISAPPOINTED FATHER.
413 tweets, 26.6k followers, following 1 users
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Verb form of mutable
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It can change without becoming a whole new object
 
Okay...?
Oh, okay
 
i.e. lists in Python are mutable; integers are not
 
PERHAPS WE SHOULD JUST DROP ALL TRAFFIC FROM THIS IP WITH OUR FIREWALL I DON’T WANT TO SEE ANY PROBLEMS FROM THIS 127.0.0.1 IP AGAIN
 
2:59 AM
@Quill hahahahahahahahaha
 
SINCE HTTPS IS SECURE HTTP I WANT YOU TO CHANGE ALL OUR PHP FILES TO BE PHPS FILES TO KEEP THE HACKERS OUT
 
MY JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THIS COURSE OF ACTION ARE TWOFOLD: 1) I AM TALKING RIGHT NOW 2) LOUDER THAN YOU
 

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