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10:00 PM
@AlexA. UPenn is my top pick, I'm just in love with everything there
I'd have to get a scholarship tho, and they are not need blind for foreign students that aren't canadians or mexicans
which is a real pain in the ass
 
@AlexA. Yeah, it's UPenn coming (up and coming)
 
UPenn and Cornell is what I'm dying to hear back from
 
@BernardMeurer Well but virtually everyone is able to speak English here. And there are actually English CS classes.
 
I'd cry so hard if I got into UPenn I'm not even shitting
 
If you were shitting I'd direct you to a restroom
 
10:01 PM
@BernardMeurer Uhm, try a laxative?
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@mınxomaτ I considered Jacobs University for a while but ended up giving up. Went to Germany last year tho, I really loved it
 
@BernardMeurer Go for it then. It's good to be excited about these things. Chances are if you stay motivated you'll have a good experience wherever you go.
 
US schools love to charge students from other countries insane tuition rates. So keep that in mind.
USA #1! :/
 
No tuition here. And all your train and tram tickets are free if you're studying. (within the university's state)
 
@AlexA. I know, which is why I depend on (a) A college with scholarship (read, Ivy); (b) Get the mad skillz scholarship Brazil offers
 
10:03 PM
Why I’ve Stopped Doing Interviews for Yale is a really good read about how horribly unfair and Kafkaesque applying for US schools is.
 
@mınxomaτ O_O
 
"Kafkaesque", will you marry me @Lynn?
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“I find myself compelled by the so-crazy-it’s-gotta-be-right proposal of the psychologist Barry Schwartz: run admissions by lottery. [...] Before you write Schwartz’s proposal off, remember this. Currently, we’ve got a random process, disguised as a deliberative one. Why not take off the mask?”
@BernardMeurer ♥
 
The love is about as real as this NullPointerException I just got
 
So.. only lasting as long as it takes to find out what went wrong? >_>
That's not very romantic at all.
 
10:06 PM
@Geobits In my case that means everlasting ;)
 
Also this quote is so gooood:
‘In the last 15 to 20 years, Yale’s applicant pool has gone from “hypercompetitive” to “a Darwinian dystopia so cutthroat you’d feel guilty even simulating it on a computer, just in case the simulations had emotions.”’
 
True, back in December/ early January when I had just finished applying I was so exhausted it was bizarre[
I don't think any other thing in my life left me so burned out
 
They should run a Hunger Games for applicants and charge to air it live. Then they could probably do away with tuition altogether.
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And I live in a place with 3 coup d'etat per minute
 
@Lynn It really is. And disturbingly accurate.
 
10:09 PM
@Geobits Hahahaha. That’s very A Modest Proposal
 
@Lynn As I understand it, you can just call them "student athletes" and nobody will care what happens to them.
 
Oh god, what is with that whole part of US colleges?
 
It's all about the money :/
 
Colleges get tons of money from sports so they can afford to accept awful students who throw ball good.
And deny baby Einsteins
 
10:13 PM
 
@flawr One of the links there: skymillenergy.com
“It is deliberate that you will find little about our innovation online. Our stealth development program is focused upon producing unexpected energy and security advantages for customers.”
What the heck.
 
That sounds... incredibly shady.
 
@phase Can confirm: Is thing
 
@phase Very nice combined with chocolate or any other kind of fruit jam.
 
10:16 PM
@flawr Swiss German sounds neat
 
@BernardMeurer And how are Lula, Rousseff and Moro lately? finished watching the vlogbrothers video on Brazil 9 hours ago
 
@Sherlock9 Lula: Angry, Rousseff: Afraid, Moro:Has blood in his eyes
 
@Lynn Haha, I always wondered what it sounds like to foreigers=)
 
@phase the fuck
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10:17 PM
I'm not giving more than 60 days for an impeachment
 
I’m a native Belgian Dutch speaker, so it’s sometimes vaguely understandable
But it sounds nothing like the German I was taught in high school
 
@Lynn Very true=)
 
I love the -li.
 
In swiss german the diminuitifs are used everywhere.
 
10:20 PM
Me irl
 
I wonder what the Indonesian language sounds like to foreigners. I only sort of count, because I've heard it all my life and but I've not understood it all my life
@BernardMeurer Papa bless the reconstruction of governments
I know that Indonesia has a similar, widespread but not as large-scale corruption problem
 
@Lynn A smoking skeleton?
 
Anyone know any good free php/mysql hosting sites?
@AlexA. no the dark abyss behind him
 
@phase php420.blaze
 
@AlexA. In more than one way~
(I’m sorry that was a horrible joke)
 
10:25 PM
@AlexA. that's not a legal site tho how dar u ofend my gendr lieak dat
 
@Lynn I don't get the joke ;-;
 
Smoking hot?
or just addicted to smoking
probably the latter
 
where does your smoke come out of?
 
Do you just naturally produce smoke from your person?
I feel like there was a Pokemon like that
 
10:26 PM
@phase heroky?
 
Yeah whenenver I burn.
 
@HelkaHomba Herok...u?
 
@HelkaHomba does it have MySQL?
 
It has YourSQL but not MySQL
 
@phase bplaced.net
@AlexA. I apologize in advance: YourMomSQL
 
10:28 PM
@flawr I saw that one, have you used it before? Is it good?
 
@AlexA. Yeah, like you're being helpful with "It has YourSQL but not MySQL" :L
 
@phase Yeah, I think so.
Used it a lot.
 
@HelkaHomba What do you mean I'm always helpful all the time bananas are tasty
 
You just have to log in every 3 months
 
i ben lokin 4 sum rale gud urmomsql servs
 
10:30 PM
@BernardMeurer I learned that impeachment has nothing to do with peaches.
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What a ripoff
 
youtu.be/M6Dhh66_eQw?t=32 What does Belgian Dutch sound like to the outside world?
 
 
@Lynn Something between swiss german and finnish.
 
10:33 PM
:D
 
Really, I understand every other word, but the rest sounds like finnish=)
 
@AlexA. Most people don't live in WA, so can't legally answer honestly ;P
 
@HelkaHomba Yes?
 
@HelkaHomba Colorado or Canada too... Plus, it's anonymous ;D
@phase what
 
I voted for did and everyone else also did. What.
 
 
I also voted for "did"
 
woah we is all in the syncs
 
10:38 PM
I'm back
 
This song came up while I was listening to spotify radio. It features some pretty relatable lyrics such as "I don't love you, I love avacado" and "I don't need your sweet fruit, ... I love only avacado"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sePD18TTrW8
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Wow what is up with Valais Swiss German, @flawr?
 
I'm honestly surprised that no one who answered my poll smokes.
I figured at least one person would.
That's good though. Smoking is bad for you, ya hurd.
@BernardMeurer Hello, Back. I'm Front.
 
 
@AlexA. ¬¬
 
10:40 PM
@BernardMeurer don't shoot him that's mean
 
@Lynn Just another dialect=)
 
Klok is a cute word.
 
Telefoon?!
 
Telefoon is great.
I giggled really hard at this image because I’ve been looking at these words all my life without realizing they are really funny
(From an English point of view)
 
I wonder which English words sound weird to non-native English speakers
 
10:43 PM
"orangutan"
 
There are some words that just bug me but that’s because I expect them to be pronounced “right” and they aren’t.
 
@AlexA. "flabberghasted"
 
You lot really messed up bona fide
 
TIL in addition to per se there is per accidente
Sorry, am tired
 
"I don't eat avocados per se..."
I DEVOUR THEM LIKE THE HEARTS OF MY ENEMIES
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(sorry for the bold, it was obnoxious)
@Lynn Sorry, that was my bad
 
10:49 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Tired is another funny word
 
@flawr woah, tru
 
I always picture this:
user image
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This guy is getting tired too:
 
Hello, World! "!dlroW ,olleH"!|o?!|~
 
Is that ><>?
 
No, it's my new language, Reng.
I need to rename it.
AND YOU'RE BACK! WELCOME BACK!!!! :D
 
11:05 PM
:D
I was up in the mountains of North Carolina at a place called Quiet Reflections Retreat. I had about 20 minutes of internet altogether. :P
 
That sounds wonderful
I hope you had a nice time :)
 
Oh, it was. I'll share a couple pictures when I get them on my computer (I used other peoples' smartphones :P).
 
Do you have a phone?
 
I do.
It's a dumb phone. :P
 
11:07 PM
When it dies, then I'll get a smartphone.
 
Let's hack El'endia's phone >:D
 
Y'know, I think it technically can connect to the internet.
 
o_O how old is your phone??
 
....I just had a really strong sense of deja-vu.
 
@flawr I uploaded my files through FTP and they don't seem to be there. The site just redirects to the 404 page.
 
11:10 PM
Anyway, it was someone else's phone in the past, then they stopped using it, then the one I had at the moment got run over by a truck (probably), so it became unusable within a month or so, so I got the phone I have now.
 
o_o did you get the number on that truck?
 
No, the phone fell out of my pocket.
 
I had that one for about a year. I think it too was a used phone, which I got to replace my previous phone that lasted four years before it just gradually stopped working.
All of them were "dumb" phones, but they did just what I needed: text.
 
Well, that's good.
 
@phase Right folder? Clear cache?
@phase Still doesn't work?
 
@flawr oh shoot I put it in the live access folder
 
Is there a way in bash to pass two commands using the same sudo? E.g. something like sudo a; b would have the same effect as sudo a and sudo b.
 
@mınxomaτ sudo a && b?
 
Lemme try
 
11:24 PM
Are up/downvotes anonymous?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes (i think so)
 
hack it and find out
 
@AlexA. Nope. The second command doesn't run as su ...
 
Hm
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes
 
11:26 PM
Cool.
 
For the most part
 
>_>
@AlexA. oh?
 
If you say "I upvoted" then it is no longer anonymous.
 
If they're identified by the system as targeted voting then it becomes visible to the moderators.
But regular voting is anonymous.
 
11:27 PM
Dare I ask why you ask? :P
 
I DARE ASK!
Why do you ask?
 
I want to upvote myself on thirty duplicate accounts I want to know who downvoted me.
 
Why does it matter?
 
Because I want to know why they downvoted me.
 
If they cared to explain their downvote then they already would have.
 
11:29 PM
;_;
 
@AlexA. $ sudo -s -- 'a; b' is the solution
 
@mınxomaτ Interesting. I would not have come up with that... What does it do?
 
That's less golfy than sudo a & sudo b though, I think. :P
Though I suppose you do have the advantage that you only enter your password once with your method.
 
@El'endiaStarman sudo has a time delay on entered passwords (afaik).
 
ahhh, okay
 
11:31 PM
Idk if this is just a Mac thing, but if you've sudo'd once in your terminal session then you can continue to use sudo commands without entering your password the subsequent times.
 
Otherwise it would be a greater PITA than it already is.
@AlexA. ninja'd.
 
Oh yeah, ninja'd
 
@AlexA. OK; doesn't work in debian. Use the shell bin name instead: sudo sh -c "a; b"
 
Hm
Who uses Debian though? ;P
hides from @Doorknob
 
Doorknob, doesn't he?
 
11:34 PM
Yes
 
Well, I use eOS, so kinda debianish
 
Maltysen also does.
 
That looks like you're calling Maltysen a sh*thead :/
 
11:40 PM
Has anyone here used Slackware Linux before?
 
Even if, I'm not one of tehm.
 
@mınxomaτ Is that ElementaryOS?
 
@AquaTart Yep
Why?
 
I thought eOS was either vaporware or buggy af
 
11:42 PM
@AquaTart Not really.
Mar 5 at 2:28, by mınxomaτ
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My desktop
 
eOS is amazing
I really recommend it
 
@BernardMeurer How good are slackpkg's repos?
 
@AquaTart I don't recommend slack, I just dion't see the advantage of it over Arch nowadays
(Running arch)
 
@mınxomaτ Does it use apt?
 
11:43 PM
Well if you can stand ubuntu, you're better off with eOS. I mainly run arch.
 
@AlexA. Sadly yes
apt is a piece of crap
 
"Sadly"? ಠ_ಠ
 
@AlexA. APT is a shitty package manager
pacman is a good PM
 
@AlexA. Of course. But I use pacapt to get pacman syntax.
 
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
11:44 PM
No love for groups on algebraic varieties?
 
yum is a good PM
 
@BernardMeurer Doesn't pacman builds things from source
 
Zypper is hot garbage
 
apt is just crap
@AquaTart That's yaourt/aur
 
Also I concur rpm > dpkg
 
11:45 PM
Where you get a makepkg file and it build from source
 
AUR is the main reason I use arch. You can always find a package for that exotic software you're looking for.
 
AUR is great
 
And makepkg is a really safe way to build stuff.
 
I think I'll give Arch a try then in a VM. I'm half planning/half fantasizing about what my next comp will be
 
Installing arch is the fun part.
>:)
 
11:47 PM
@AquaTart Don't go for slackware it's really just pointless
And with arch you learn a bunch of stuff about linux
 
I have an Ubuntu VM that I never use but I was thinking of playing around with Debian and/or ElementaryOS. I hated openSUSE.
 
arch comes with no bs, but you can always download more bs you want with pacman/yaourt, because their collection of bs is greater than any other distro.
 
I've done stuff with Gentoo before so I think I can handle Arch
 
@AlexA. I hated SUSE too
I really liked freeBSD
 
I never got the point of SUSE
 
11:48 PM
Recommend it, BSD is love
Gentoo is bad too
 
I love OS X, which has some FreeBSD code floating around in there
 
@BernardMeurer I like BSD because it has sane licenses. GPL ist just a horrible, horrible license.
 
@mınxomaτ I'm okay with GPL, (okay as in meh) but the BSD license is better indeed
I don't like Stallman too much
He's a bloody zealot
 
I just use MIT
 
I want that kind of no bs distro so Arch should suit my needs
 
11:50 PM
@BernardMeurer Using any GPL version for your project is like saying "f*ck your project" to anyone who wants to use your code. Use MIT (or 2clause BSD) if you really care about open source...
 
@Bernard Kind of seems like @Lynn may have rejected your marriage proposal. Sorry bro.
 
what
 
@mınxomaτ Or University of Illinois or ISC
@mınxomaτ What about AGPL?
@AquaTart hello
 
@AlexA. I'm going to put Debian on an old XP tower and make it a webserver
 
@mınxomaτ What is so bad about GPL?
 
11:51 PM
@phase +1
 
@flawr The legal implications it has on projects using your code.
Read some law blogs. They explain it better than I can.
 
TL;DR?
 
AIUI it basically spreads like a virus?
 
@mınxomaτ So the point is that GPL forces people who use some GPL-licensed stuff to use some kind of opensource license too?
 
One that is ideologically superior, according to free software enthusiasts, and really limiting according to open source enthusiasts.
 
11:54 PM
@AlexA. I've got an XP tower from 2005 and a Vista tower from 2009, and they both have the same specs.
 
haha
 
Like, the same specs
 
@flawr Yes. Which makes advanded projects using like %1 GPL code and 99% other code impossible to license.
Which is an unnecessary roadblock for OS devs.
 
Is it true that if you want to include a dependency that's licensed under AGPL that your project has to be AGPL as well?
 
Yep. (Strong) copyleft
 
11:57 PM
MIT, BSD and MS-PL give you all the benefits of GPL (attribution, license integrity, trademark protection and liability mitigation) in a lesser, easier license.
 
I just did some research: AGPL = GPL + the additional requirement to guarantee downloadability of the source.
 
Ah, AGPL requires derived works to be open source as well
but GPL doesn't?
 
@AlexA. Yes it does.
GPL just does not require the downloadability. (AFAIK)
 
Hm
Law stuff is weird
 
"This is my complete project and I will maintain it. It will not be used in parts by other software" -> Use LGPL or MS-RL
"This will most likely be used in other projects" -> MS-PL or MIT
"Dunno." -> Unlicense or CC0
 
11:59 PM
I'm not familiar with MS-RL and MS-PL
 

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