The Nineteenth Byte

trichoplax

21:00

Doorknob is the admins

Sparr

(and then the actual SE admins, if it kept up too long)

Doorknob

"@Doorknob can you suspend this annoying guy?"

Sparr

that's what escalation is for :p

Doorknob

"sure, who?"

quartata

⁣Interesting.

Doorknob

21:00

"uhhhh"

Sparr

you could do it a hundred times and it would still be less annoying than election notifications

flawr

PS: Is there an antonym for optimizations?

Sparr

and less objectionable, on a meta level, because you'd just be pinging one person, not thousands of people

Bad Cat Eye

@Optimizer

VoteToClose

flawr

21:01

Like purposeful deterioration?

Sparr

deoptimization

SuperJedi224

So, I've been thinking about potential names for my java library again

Doorknob

@flawr golfing?

3

Alex A.

@flawr Sabotage?

SuperJedi224

What about "Ten Foot Laser Pole"?

mınxomaτ

21:01

@flawr Coding?

SuperJedi224

Anonymous

@flawr Businessifying

Martin Büttner

boom

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A: Programmming a Pristine World

Rail, 24 bytes $'main' # -[world]o/ I think this works. And it's both short and readable (as far as Rail goes). If the removed substring includes $'main' we get Internal Error: Crash: No 'main' function found. If the removed substring includes the #, there is no way for the program to ex...

or should I say... Crash

Anonymous

public final class WidgetMakerFactory extends AbstractFactory implements FactoryFactory

Alex A.

@MartinBüttner Derailed

Bad Cat Eye

21:02

Calvin's Hobbies

We need a bigger stat board. My 5 star message from an hour ago is already gone.

Bad Cat Eye

^^ Wtf?!

SuperJedi224

Anyone?

quartata

@BadCatEye lmao

TanMath

@Calvin'sHobbies agreed!

quartata

21:03

Why are you named Bad Cat Eye...

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies that would be easy to userscript

Bad Cat Eye

Anagram of Beta Decay

SuperJedi224

@BadCatEye I was about to say that...

Doorknob

while you're at it, you could also decrease the amount of vertical space the topic, user list, etc. take up

quartata

@BadCatEye Interesting.

trichoplax

21:04

@Calvin'sHobbies That's because it was only a 3 star message :P

(now it's 4 - I scrolled all that way so I thought I may as well...)

flawr

@doorknob @alex @mınxomaτ @mego All quite accurate suggestiosn.

Doorknob

2560x1600 fractal that I generated for someone with cfractal to use as a wallpaper, if anyone else here also wants it :P

@flawr huh?

VoteToClose

@BadCatEye I can't see your name without thinking about this:

quartata

Damn, codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/63442/45151 would be 34 bytes in Rotor except I don't have the Fibonacci generator finished yet

flawr

@Doorknob What is fractal about this?

Doorknob

21:05

well, it's called a "fractal flame" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

quartata

@Doorknob If I update Rotor to add the Fibonacci code, will it be OK to post that answer even though the update came after the challenge

VoteToClose

@Doorknob That's GIMP using the Flame tool. ;)

quartata

@flawr It's a fractal.

Alex A.

@quartata If you specify that it's noncompeting

quartata

I mean there isn't really any fuzzy "fractalness"

flawr

21:06

@quartata But where is the self similarity?

quartata

@AlexA. Awh shucks. :(

All right.

Doorknob

yeah what Alex said

alex-is-not-wrong

SuperJedi224

You know what, I'm going with "Ten Foot Laser Pole". Because why not.

VoteToClose

paradox-ensues

flawr

Ten foot laser pole?

Calvin's Hobbies

21:07

2 hours ago, by Calvin's Hobbies

http://michaelyingling.com/random/calvin_and_hobbes/

quartata

The colors are just based on the path. If you look at it in black and white the self similarity is pretty clear.

But it is cooler in color

trichoplax

@Calvin'sHobbies Oh two hours ago... I starred that one already :)

SuperJedi224

@flawr That's what I eventually decided to call my library

flawr

Oh=)

Alex A.

Good choice

flawr

21:08

I agree, that is a good name.

Calvin's Hobbies

@MartinBüttner Lookin' spiffy

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies kaboom

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ > You're playing TF2, and you want to make a bot that will just put voice commands into the chat box.

Anonymous

ws.apache.org/xmlrpc/apidocs/org/apache/xmlrpc/server/…

trichoplax

When two people fall off the chat avatar bar at the same time, does that mean one of them is a sock puppet?

quartata

You aren't by any chance asking for this so that you can make an x->5 spam bot

Alex A.

21:11

@trichoplax No (not sure if serious...)

TanMath

I have edited my question... Any more feedback?

Anonymous

@quartata That would be like 20-ish bytes in Seriously if I had functions working

trichoplax

@AlexA. No just a random thought since I just saw it happen

quartata

@Mego Really?

Calvin's Hobbies

@trichoplax I think chat kicks all inactive people in 5 min intervals or something

quartata

21:11

@Mego What is FizzBuzz?

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Anonymous

@quartata Seriously.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies No, no one is ever kicked by the system for inactivity

TanMath

@quartata it is a geoup of challenges...

Alex A.

@quartata A question for the ages

quartata

@TanMath I meant in Seriously...

Why the hell are people starring this

Anonymous

21:12

Uhh

TanMath

@quartata why is your message being starred crazily?

quartata

I don't even know anymore

VoteToClose

trichoplax

@quartata Because it's funny out of context

Alex A.

We thought you were pondering what a physical FizzBuzz was

Calvin's Hobbies

21:12

@AlexA. I mean, doesn't it force you out of the room if you close your browser?

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies No it doesn't

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies No, only if you log out or clear your browser cookies/cache

VoteToClose

> I'm an idiot

TanMath

@quartata en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizz_buzz

Doorknob

@VoteToClose Was that made with cfractal? Doesn't look like it

quartata

21:13

@TanMath I know what FizzBuzz is.

VoteToClose

@Doorknob No - GIMP. :D

TanMath

@Doorknob i think it is...

quartata

I was asking what the code in Seriously for it was

Because if it is really 20 bytes to do Fibo Nacci in it then I don't even know what to say

trichoplax

@quartata We all know. That's why it's funny to star it

TanMath

@quartata ask @Mego not us!

VoteToClose

21:14

I made a 15.6 MB version of it which is much more detailed.

TanMath

@trichoplax it see no point to star it...

quartata

@trichoplax It isn't deserving of 6 stars...

Doorknob

@VoteToClose Doesn't look as vibrant, and it also lacks the details that cfractal generates (with 20+ variations). Also, can GIMP animate that? :P

quartata

Now I'm an idiot is, because it is true.

Alex A.

We should have a chat art contest for the best physical representation of a "FizzBuzz," be it some kind of creature or other tangible object.

trichoplax

21:14

@quartata I agree - I only gave it 1

4

quartata

@AlexA. I've always thought of it as a fish

TanMath

@trichoplax hahaha

VoteToClose

@Doorknob I'm pretty sure it can - It can generate the fractal by processing different values, so I don't see why not.

Alex A.

@quartata Why?

quartata

Like maybe an eel or an anglerfish

@AlexA. I don't know why. Fizz just makes me think of Fish.

Doorknob

21:15

@VoteToClose But is it as easy as bin/fractal -f 100 <variations> for 100 frames into an animated GIF? :P

Alex A.

I picture it like a fuzzy little bug-eyed gremlin that's both adorable and horrifying

quartata

It's a fish.

VoteToClose

@Doorknob Lemme check. ;D

trichoplax

@quartata Does the buzz make it an electric eel?

quartata

I don't know why but it just makes me think of an electric eel or something yeah

@trichoplax Yeah, exactly.

Alex A.

21:16

> or something yeah

Yeah!

VoteToClose

@Doorknob Answer: Aw hell nah.

Alex A.

status-aw-hell-nah

markdown fail

quartata

status-like-totally-yah

Alex A.

:25283438 Is it not? ;)

VoteToClose

> It was at this moment that AlexA. realized: he f***ed up.

TanMath

21:17

@AlexA. i deleted it...

Alex A.

:P

DLosc

Will someone get a message if I ping him here while he's not in the chatroom?

VoteToClose

XD MY COMPUTER CHANGED wrong to wrong!

TanMath

alex-is-always-wrong

and that is a joke! ;)

Calvin's Hobbies

@DLosc No (i think)

VoteToClose

21:18

Wait. I actually can't write A l e x A . without spaces.

DLosc

@Calvin'sHobbies Hm. I want to reply to a deleted post telling the owner a way to fix it, but I can't comment on deleted posts.

Doorknob

@DLosc yes

VoteToClose

I had to put it in with spaces, then remove the spaces backwards to make that work. -.-

flawr

If there is a group of teenie girls, why is it always an odd number?

Doorknob

if the user appears in the ping autocomplete

VoteToClose

21:19

@flawr Because they can't even. ;)

TanMath

no feedback?

Anonymous

@quartata Something like `;3(%b~"Fizz"@*(5%b~"Buzz"@*+`:100:RM

TimmyD

@AlexA. I always pictured it as a drink - like something they'd dream up for Star Trek or the like.

Anonymous

Err

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob But otherwise only mod superpings work, right?

TanMath

21:20

If so, I will wait for the upvotes...

Anonymous

How to escape backticks

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies correct

VoteToClose

```?

Calvin's Hobbies

Those @@ones

DLosc

@Doorknob Hm. Okay--except the user doesn't.

flawr

21:20

```

Hm

VoteToClose

`?

TanMath

What is going on?

VoteToClose

@Mego Ah. Use \

Doorknob

@DLosc user ID? I can superping them for you.

that only works in actual posts, @Calvin'sHobbies

trichoplax

```

Doorknob

21:20

there's no way to get a single backtick as code in chat IIRC

Alex A.

nvm

Doorknob

alex-is-wrong

VoteToClose

@Doorknob Lies - `

Doorknob

@VoteToClose that's not code

Anonymous

37 bytes for FizzBuzz in Seriously, I underestimated :P

Alex A.

21:21

@Doorknob this is some sick code`, bro

TanMath

@Doorknob @AlexA. alex-is-always-wrong

trichoplax

Doorknob

> a single backtick

@trichoplax that's cheating :P

trichoplax

:)

TanMath

whar are you guys doing?

VoteToClose

21:21

@Doorknob ` <-- code block

Doorknob

> a single backtick

VoteToClose

` <-- This is a code block.

Alex A.

`

TanMath

@Mego bad markdown!

Bad Cat Eye

@Mego It'll never work :D

Use a URL shortener

VoteToClose

21:22

@Doorknob Test with \`

Anonymous

Actually it's 35

Doorknob

oh huh that does work

Anonymous

`;3(%b~"Fizz"*(5%b~"Buzz"*+`:100RM

VoteToClose

/me facepalms

Anonymous

Realized I shouldn't be rotating the top of the stack :P

TanMath

21:23

I am confused! what is going on?!!

DLosc

@Doorknob Linus, user 46756. I think pastebin.com/9S0VgEta works for codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/63461/16766.

El'endia Starman

@Mego: fizzbuzz

Anonymous

34, I don't need the second :

Martin Büttner

@Calvin'sHobbies after 4 hours of occasionally looking at your challenge I noticed you have misspelt "programming". Is that intentional?

VoteToClose

@TanMath We're trying to put a single back-tick character into a code block.

Doorknob

21:24

@Linus ^

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies If people were kicked from chat for inactivity, how would you explain Brian Tompsett's perpetual existence in the room? :D

Anonymous

@AlexA. He's a bot obviously

4

Calvin's Hobbies

@MartinBüttner Oops. Thanks Mmartin

DLosc

@Doorknob Thx ^_^

quartata

The Rotor interpreter doesn't work on ideone... why

That means I'll have to make my own online interpreter ;_;

Martin Büttner

21:25

@Calvin'sHobbies no problemm

quartata

Caught: groovy.lang.MissingPropertyException: No such property: Rotor for class: Block
groovy.lang.MissingPropertyException: No such property: Rotor for class: Block
	at Block.<init>(prog.groovy:74)
	at prog.run(prog.groovy:251)

TanMath

Bye all!

VoteToClose

Bye!

TanMath

(please don't star every message I send)

4

Alex A.

@TanMath I think you know in your heart that we will anyway. :P

quartata

21:27

Oh you know what?

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob Backslash escaping the backtick seems to work, no? `

El'endia Starman

@quartata ...*why* would you make an interpreter that's run by another interpreter?

quartata

It throws this error on any version of Groovy < 2.4.5

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies yes I realized that :P

quartata

Me: Groovy Version: 2.4.5 JVM: 1.8.0_51 Vendor: Oracle Corporation OS: Linux

TutorialsPoint: Groovy Version: 2.4.0 JVM: 1.8.0_45 Vendor: Oracle Corporation OS: Linux

Wait, what?

Oops.

VoteToClose

21:29

I spy with my little eye a cardboard box!

TanMath

@AlexA. I guess I do...

quartata

Didn't copy paste correctly

Calvin's Hobbies

Can anyone see the downvotes here? v

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Q: Make Seeing Deleted Answers Optional

When Stack Exchange site users reach 10,000 reputation (or 2,000 for beta sites) they can view deleted posts. This can be very useful but deleted answers stay in their default ordering unless sorted by votes, so viewing a question with a lot of deleted answers can be cumbersome if you only want t...

quartata

@El'endiaStarman Minkolang is written in Python

Calvin's Hobbies

Just curious

Doorknob

21:30

+11/-2

Calvin's Hobbies

mmk

It got quiet..

SuperJedi224

Hey guys it's live on Github now

github.com/SuperJedi224/Ten-Foot-Laser-Pole

VoteToClose

1494 Rep!

Anonymous

> refrence

VoteToClose

Oct 29 at 22:37, by VoteToClose

El'endia Starman

21:31

@quartata True, but Python is a stand-alone language. Ideone is definitely an interpreter.

quartata

Why does my interpreter work on Groovy 2.4.5 and not 2.4.0

I don't see the difference between the versions

@El'endiaStarman Fair enough...

Doorknob

Hey so Perl or PHP? I feel like I'm facing a "lesser of two evils" situation here...

quartata

I just wanted to do it so I wouldn't need to make an online interpreter

Anonymous

@Doorknob jQuery

quartata

@Doorknob What for?

Calvin's Hobbies

21:32

Pherlp

SuperJedi224

@Mego Thanks for pointing that out

quartata

I use both and don't hate them so I'm the least biased source of info here

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob Django!!!

quartata

@El'endiaStarman oh shush

Doorknob

I want to put the cfractal server on my website but my webhost doesn't let me run Bash (yes we wrote the server in Bash originally)

El'endia Starman

21:33

Hey, it's perfect for a Python programmer...:P

quartata

@Doorknob Perl since you can call C code from it

Doorknob

iPage is bad and only supports PHP/Perl

Anonymous

@Doorknob Use less iPage

Doorknob

that would be ideal...

quartata

I'm assuming you wouldn't want to rewrite most of the C code you made for cfractal

Doorknob

21:34

@quartata well I can just compile the code on my computer and upload the executable and hope it still works

quartata

@Doorknob Fair enough. It just seems like it might be better since then it could be more modular.

PHP is better than Perl for straight up web apps in most cases.

Doorknob

this isn't really a web app

it's basically just "call this program, output the result" :P

quartata

I assumed this was a web interface for cfractal right?

Doorknob

yes

quartata

PHP is better for basic web interfaces.

Doorknob

21:36

ok, thanks!

quartata

Since you don't have to muck with Apache CGI shit

And it has better tools for that stuff

Perl wasn't really made for that sort of stuff. It is just better at it in certain specific cases.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Taking MichaelT's feedback into consideration, I think this would be a good idea implemented on the question-level. That is, it isn't a user preference but rather a non-cached opt-out for each question. When I say "non-cached," I mean that your decision to hide the deleted answers persists only as long as you remain on that page; the next time you visit the page they'll be visible again.

quartata

If you wanted to reuse your C code, Perl would be better. And Perl is generally "nicer" for heavy regex.

But generally PHP is the better choice.

SuperJedi224

Waterflame released a new piece earlier today

But it's not as good as some of his others

:(

quartata

Perl's job, really, is for the backend stuff (controller). PHP is very good at the view part.

Doorknob

21:39

alright, makes sense

quartata

:)

Have fun in PHP land! Lemme know when you are ready to renounce your Ruby ways!

Doorknob

yeah, I'm not sure about that... ;)

TimmyD

Perl is more readable

quartata

hmph

TimmyD

Oct 28 at 16:15, by Dennis

~!0!~('@"/(@`)~@``^"|'.(('"
_]'^'|"`&').('[)).["[}(@,@@
{~/),$}@{**(!(^$&%{%{*[/,`,
'^'+[@@/+{_`%@,/&[)@[@@_`[#
!(!~-/,[,[#{&%@').'"!"})'))

El'endia Starman

21:40

WOOHOO new Wait But Why post!

quartata

@TimmyD I've seen some PHP code far far worse than that.

Especially the ones mixed with HTML (like inline PHP using <?).

TimmyD

@quartata Yeah, but usually PHP has letters

quartata

There's a reason JSP sucks guys

@TimmyD hehe

VoteToClose

Never mind. :D

Alex A.

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A: Make Seeing Deleted Answers Optional

Taking MichaelT's feedback into consideration, I think this might be a good feature to have not as a user preference, but as a potentially "uncached" option per question. That is, when a user with sufficiently high reputation visits a question, they have the ability to hide deleted answers with t...

My first answer on Meta.SE

cc @Calvin'sHobbies

@Doorknob Don't let quartata convince you to adopt Perl and PHP. He's trying to trick you, to lead you astray toward the path of evil.

Linus

21:57

@DLosc @DLosc, << returns the stream, so any time you have <<'r' can cut it and the result is still the stream.

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