The Nineteenth Byte

Easterly Irk

03:00

BAI TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOODBAI!!!

Downgoat

@Maltysen if you can find me a sun gif that spins, I will do

Easterly Irk

woah that came out better than I expected.

Downgoat

@EasterlyIrk bai

Easterly Irk

bai @Downgoat

Downgoat

why is bai used instead of bye?

Easterly Irk

03:00

idk

Maltysen

@Downgoat your time steps are too small, the ellipses are degenerating

Geobits

Another turing test failed. Oh well, this one lasted years longer than the last. Back to the drawing board.

Easterly Irk

will leave this open for the night

@Geobits rofl

Quill

def ("Person") ({
    init: function(name){
        this.name = name;
    },
    speak: function(text){
        alert(text || "Hi, my name is " + this.name);
    }
});
def ("Ninja") << Person ({
    init: function(name){
        this._super();
    },
    kick: function(){
        this.speak("I kick u!");
    }
});
var ninjy = new Ninja("JDD");
ninjy.speak();
ninjy.kick();

Geobits

@QPaysTaxes This is how the uprisings start. Better to not go down that road.

Phrancis

03:01

I think it's JAVAscript

Quill

@Downgoat javascript ;)

Maltysen

@Quill ~~whoa how did you get my code~~ I mean, what's that?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

the best error page ever

Easterly Irk

@Phrancis dangit, that did look like Lolcode, but I missed my chance to star. :P

Downgoat

@Quill :| I retract my comment

Quill

03:02

@Maltysen github.com/tobytailor/def.js

Geobits

@QPaysTaxes Java's Crypt?

Easterly Irk

@Phrancis Yea. I hate when people try to confuse it with javascript, ya' know?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I have to agree.

@QPaysTaxes Y, I!

Quill

@Geobits Lara Croft and the Java's Crypt

9

Geobits

@Quill Oh fine, have a star. I get credit for the assist though :P

Maltysen

@Downgoat bug report, set v_i to 2

Downgoat

03:04

@Maltysen added button to turn of fbackground

Alex A.

@Quill github.com/ararslan/js-improved

Downgoat

@Maltysen ?

what is $v_I$

Maltysen

this is part of your time steps being too big

Quill

@AlexA. is that a js to perl transpiler ;p

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

bai

Geobits

03:04

@AlexA. Unsurprisingly, that is an improvement on js.

Downgoat

@Maltysen thta is a problem with your computer

if you get a faster computer the time steps will be faster

Easterly Irk

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ BAI!

Downgoat

I am asking the browser for what framerate to ues

Quill

@AlexA. can I get that with fries, please?

Maltysen

@Downgoat it doesn't matter how fast they are

Geobits

03:05

You really should make it framerate independent, you know. It's not that hard.

Maltysen

its how much you're moving it per frame

Easterly Irk

@AlexA. BTW, I showed your github pic to my sister, she says you look like the kind of person who would pretend to be a walrus or a pigeon to random people online.

She was close... :P

Downgoat

@Maltysen but what is v_i

Maltysen

@Downgoat initial_velocity

do you see my point?

Downgoat

for moons?

Maltysen

03:06

it doesn't matter the framerate/sec

Phrancis

dat naming

Maltysen

@Downgoat no planets

make one with initial_velocity = 2

Downgoat

if I make $v_i$ 2, planets would fall into the sun

Maltysen

@Downgoat try it

you'll see

Geobits

@Phrancis You're such a code reviewer :P

Easterly Irk

03:06

^

but iz good

Downgoat

@Maltysen oh yeah, I know

blame-javascript

Easterly Irk

brings better humor than @GeobitsTheEvilishAI.

Maltysen

@Downgoat no, blame your time steps

they are too big

Phrancis

initial_velocity -> v_i // LOL have fun debugging

Downgoat

@Maltysen I do no make the time steps, your browser does

Easterly Irk

03:07

There has been way too rick rolling tonight.

@Downgoat don't star

Downgoat

@EasterlyIrk ??

Easterly Irk

then it takes more work for them to be even

Maltysen

@Downgoat no it doesn't. it doesn't matter the framerate/sec, it matters your acceleration/frame

Geobits

@Maltysen I think he's making them big because each step is a frame, and if he made them smaller they would appear to move very slowly. Decoupling time and frames would help that.

Phrancis

very rick... wow, such roll

Downgoat

03:08

@Maltysen you want planets to to faster?

Quill

@Downgoat I am proud to donate 3 stars to Mother Russia's cause

Easterly Irk

@Downgoat relink me?

Downgoat

vihan.org/p/SSS

Maltysen

@Downgoat no, I want you to do less acceleration/frame

which would in effect make it slower

Downgoat

so planets go slower?

quartata

03:08

That reminds me that I wanted to use NaCl and a bit of JS to put Perl in the browser

orlp

I have a challenge for you guys

Maltysen

@Downgoat but that's not the important point, the important point is that it becomes more accurate

Downgoat

@Maltysen I did that but I don't like slow planets

that is true but slowness D:

orlp

make a regex that validates a sudoku

Geobits

@quartata I think if you put NaCl in an oyster you might eventually get Perl anyway.

orlp

03:09

without extra features

Easterly Irk

shit @Downgoat my moon is spiraling away from everything

Downgoat

@EasterlyIrk D:

Geobits

@Downgoat Decouple the logic from the display then :/

Easterly Irk

well bai moon!

Downgoat

that might be a problem

Easterly Irk

03:10

himarm jr left himarm

Maltysen

@Downgoat decouple time steps from rendering

Easterly Irk

I, the true himarm jr well never leave!

Maltysen

ninja'd

Phrancis

@orlp you evil, evil person

Downgoat

@Geobits you're saying I should have a infinite buffer just to slow down the planets?

Quill

03:10

@orlp you should add an O(n) time restriction on that

orlp

e.g. only parenthesis (()), union |, character classes [], [^], . and kleene star *

Geobits

@Downgoat Infinite buffer?

orlp

@Quill there is no n here, so every regex will be O(1)

Maltysen

@Downgoat no he means you should do the moving the planets logic very often, but render when the browser tells you

Downgoat

@Geobits that was not the best word... I meant like a forever increasing

Geobits

03:11

Basically no game in existence today ties logic and rendering speeds. For good reason.

Downgoat

@Maltysen Rendering and logic are seperate. I can only do logic whenever the browser lets me

Maltysen

@Downgoat why?

himarm jr

i is himarm jr agan

hai

Quill

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 days ago, by rlemon

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Downgoat

@Maltysen otherwise if I were to run on a slower computer, it would eventually crash because the CPU is trying to do more operations then it can within my specified time.

Maltysen

03:12

@QPaysTaxes @Downgoat setTimeout

himarm jr

@Downgoat sowee name changed, pls no lkil me

Geobits

@Downgoat I don't see how that makes sense.

Maltysen

^

Downgoat

@himarmjr wy diid u chanj yuor naem agin

himarm jr

funnnes

idk othr thn tat

Downgoat

03:12

@Geobits lemme make a picutre...

himarm jr

@orlp @MartinBüttner ninja'ed you to it.

Alex A.

@himarmjr ...why did you show my GitHub picture to your sister...?

Geobits

You can run the logic as often as you like. Just skip redrawing until the next frame tick. Better yet would be separate thread altogether.

Maltysen

@Downgoat @Downgoat if you're using requestAnimationFrame, well, it's called requestAnimationFrame for a reason

PhiNotPi

@PhiNotPi A=1, B=0, C>=1

himarm jr

03:13

@AlexA. I was looking at the license thing bc my computer lost all my vim settings.

trying to find it, the github had the "random pic from the inter webs that looks hot".

orlp

@himarmjr you didn't read the follow up line

himarm jr

Mar 10 at 20:03, by Alex A.

Idk, some guy. I use his picture because he's super hot ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

0/10 not hot

Alex A.

>_<

himarm jr

-0/10 not enough avocad

real bai

>.<

Downgoat

himarm jr

03:15

@AlexA. sowee

Maltysen

1 min ago, by Maltysen

@Downgoat @Downgoat if you're using requestAnimationFrame, well, it's called requestAnimationFrame for a reason

himarm jr

@Downgoat what software created that?

Downgoat

@himarmjr paint

himarm jr

and FREEHAND LINES

@Downgoat okai

BAI

Geobits

I don't understand that image at all, tbh :/

himarm jr

03:15

for night

Downgoat

@Maltysen I am using normal recursion:

Geobits

Just run the logic in a loop and render frames at a set interval.

Maltysen

@Downgoat also, that's not how it works

Downgoat

(function logic() {
    // fun maths
    logic();
}())

Alex A.

Why did you start putting an s on math?

Phrancis

03:16

@himarmjr for(minute : night) { sleep(); }

Maltysen

@Downgoat then where does asking the browser come in for framerate come in?

Downgoat

@AlexA. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ since ever

Geobits

@Maltysen I'm guessing inside logic() shudder

Alex A.

You didn't use to

Downgoat

^^

Alex A.

03:17

Also it's technically incorrect in American English

Phrancis

s/used/use/

DLosc

^

Alex A.

@Phrancis Hah, whoops.

Phrancis

ninja edit

Maltysen

@Downgoat …but why? the browser will slow you down if it needs to and the cpu won't blow up

Downgoat

03:17

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Q: "Maths" for "Mathematics"; where does the S come from?

So in US English we shorten mathematics to math, and in the UK they say maths. Where does the 'S' come from in the UK version? For some reason I had it in my head that this was just because it's plural so you add the 's'; referring to multiple types of mathematics. But a question on another SE si...

Geobits

@Phrancis I don't think that's correct.

Alex A.

Yeah it looks weird

Phrancis

@Geobits the past tense of the verb is already stated in the "did" of "didn't"

Downgoat

I have grown up hearing "maths", so I normally say maths, but I don't always

Geobits

Oooh right. Stupid past tense.

DLosc

03:19

@Geobits Though I'm sure most people say "didn't used to" and don't notice the difference.

Phrancis

"did you used my privates" would sound weird

"didn't you used"

Geobits

To be fair, "did you use my privates" would also sound weird :P

DLosc

^

Downgoat

^

@DLosc ninja'd to the carrot

Phrancis

Only if you're not talking about code

Quill

03:20

missingaspace

Alex A.

> _not_talking

Geobits

What's this "code" you speak of?

Downgoat

@Geobits code is what made you

Phrancis

@Quill I can't get used to the space bar on this laptop, I miss it about half the time

Geobits

I'm not sure if I'm going to be a good idea.

inb4 flag

Downgoat

03:23

@Geobits i'm sorry.

Geobits

Are you a butterfly?

Quill

@mod pls edit msg

Downgoat

in The Block, Mar 28 at 3:22, by Marky Markov

@Geobits no.

@Quill who is alexa?

Geobits

@Downgoat @Alexa is a mod here.

Downgoat

oh ok

@QPaysTaxes is that possible?

@Geobits please link to profiel

Alex A.

03:24

@Quill Which

Quill

the one with five expletives in it

Alex A.

@QPaysTaxes No, that's not my sister's name

Geobits

@Downgoat You know the one. The bird. Just get rid of spaces and punctuation and such.

Alex A.

@QPaysTaxes Nope

I'll give you a hint: her name is in no way similar to mine

Phrancis

LOL

Alex A.

03:26

XD

Maltysen

@AlexA. Nyrk (rot13 Alex)

Geobits

@AlexA. Oddly enough, my kid's middle name is very similar to yours ;)

Alex A.

@Maltysen That's still related to my name

@Geobits Is it the same as my full first name?

Quill

did you not know about minibits @QPaysTaxes

Maltysen

does anyone have that picture…

Geobits

03:27

@AlexA. If your first name expands to nine characters, then most likely.

Maltysen

@Geobits alexandra?

that's 9

Alex A.

@Geobits It does indeed

Geobits

@Maltysen Believe it or not, my son's middle name is not Alexandra ;)

Downgoat

@AlexA. Alexander?

Geobits

@Maltysen Oh, I do!

Alex A.

03:29

Oct 15 '15 at 2:53, by Alex A.

UDON FOREVER

i do not recall saying this

Quill

What if Geobits was Alex's sister

Maltysen

@QPaysTaxes geronimo smith, yup 9 letters!

Geobits

@AlexA. Be glad you did. Udon is worth it.

Maltysen

@Quill then shit would be really weird

Geobits

@Maltysen Shit's already pretty weird when you think about it. I mean, it's an interesting process that turns regular food into that.

Alex A.

03:34

@Geobits "If I eat the cat's poop, tomorrow it will be my poop." –Dog shower thoughts

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@AlexA. Why is the dog in a shower?

Downgoat

does anyone know how the math would work to insert a moon into a stable orbit? adding extra y-velocity doesn't do it...

Alex A.

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Dogs should get bathed occasionally

Downgoat

@AlexA. shower =/= bath

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

"Bathed" doesn't necessarily imply "bath"

Geobits

03:42

I use the shower to clean my dog. Way easier than a bath.

Detachable showerhead is far superior to sitting in a pool of dirty water.

Downgoat

@Geobits this is proof you are an AI

electronics do not bode well with water

Alex A.

I don't know anyone who actually washes their dog in a bath

Downgoat

How to bathe your dog properly - Animal Ark Pet Grooming

►

Geobits

@Downgoat They do if they're covered with a watertight layer of their enemies' skin.

Downgoat

@Geobits oh, yeah, I forgot! :P

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

03:44

I'm not clicking that. It's probably a rickroll in disguise.

Geobits

@Downgoat Uh, yea. That's a shower.

Alex A.

Haha ^ I was just about to say

Downgoat

@Geobits but not a sh— okay, fine..

Alex A.

He's a cutie pie and is being so good in the bath.

Geobits

That's probably because he's thinking about that cat poop.

Downgoat

03:46

@Geobits hahaha

Geobits

Mine is always really good for the shower part. He gets really bouncy when it's time to dry off though.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Another dog shower thought: Am I really the good boy?

Downgoat

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ deep.

Geobits

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Imposter syndrome for dogs.

Downgoat

such 5

8 mins ago, by Downgoat

does anyone know how the math would work to insert a moon into a stable orbit? adding extra y-velocity doesn't do it...

pls

like don't tell me how to do it, just give me teh codez

DLosc

03:50

@Downgoat very stars. wow.

Geobits

@Downgoat K, here ya go: google.com/…

Downgoat

> kerbal space program source code

Phrancis

@Downgoat Have you tried asking an astrophysicist?

Downgoat

@Phrancis I emailed NASA and all I got as a customer satisfaction form ;-;

Geobits

@Downgoat Well I'm sure it would help ;)

Maltysen

03:52

@Downgoat email randall monroe?

Phrancis

^

Downgoat

Phrancis

@Downgoat tell them you are very dissatisfied with their customer service

Downgoat

@Phrancis I did

Phrancis

Oh, you did, wow.

Geobits

03:53

I don't know how to respond to this.

_UNK

Maltysen

@Downgoat 2/10 writing not freehand

Quill

tell them the only way to make it up to your is to give you a job

Downgoat

1/10 never using STS again, Soyuz was alwayss better

@Quill yes, I very much want a job at nassa

credentials: i am upsidedown and 14k rep on ppcg

Quill

You want a job at NASA and I want a Pizza

Downgoat

@Quill I also want pizza

Geobits

03:54

I love how they capitalized "Unparalleled Service" as if that's a thing.

Phrancis

@Downgoat STS sucks. Slowest IDE ever

Quill

We're both people with their priorities perfect

@Geobits That's actually a trademarked thing

Downgoat

@Quill Pizza > College

Geobits

@Quill I figured that, but that only makes it sillier imo.

Quill

I can has both, they sell pizza on my campus :D

Geobits

03:56

NASA sells pizza on your campus?

Downgoat

do they make it or get it from like dominoes?

Quill

there's a Mediterranean shop that makes it

Downgoat

@Geobits I would be fine with a job at NASA even if it was just selling Pizzas to people who actually worked at NASA

quartata

Hmm, I can't load a compiled Perl module in pNaCl and checking the browser hash after every eval_sv feels wrong

Geobits

s/dominoes/dominos/

Downgoat

03:57

@Geobits I'm sorry I don't have perfect spellings

quartata

Can't really think of a better way though. I'll roll with it.

Geobits

@Downgoat Just make sure it comes with a fancy bullshit job title to use on your resume.

Alex A.

Microsoft Word is best IDE

Geobits

I'd rather jot code on a napkin.

Maltysen

@Geobits yeah, I made sure the food got to the space people

Downgoat

03:59

Downgoat: NASA Chief Triticum Aestivum, Solanum lycopersicum, Food Technician

Geobits

-1 doesn't form pronounceable acronym.

quartata

I actually jot code on napkins a lot

Downgoat

NCTASFT?

It can be pronounced: Nack-tass-ft

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