The Nineteenth Byte

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Dumb Chess code-golf Would this challenge be closed as a duplicate of Smallest chess program ? Let me know. I think it's different enough. Make a program that does random (valid) chess moves for both White and Black, and records them in algebraic notation until the game is over. At the end if ...

Anonymous

So I did a dumb while testing my reference implementation

Calvin's Hobbies

@Sp3000 My health class handed those out (minus the bulb) at the end of the cpr section. It's about the size of a retainer case, and I bet some people carry them around

Anonymous

I accidentally fed it the Meta.PPCG logo I made, which was grayscale and had an alpha channel

Seadrus

how do I nominate something

Anonymous

The results were interesting

quartata

04:04

You know TPLQ was the first challenge I saw on this site

Too bad I found out about it 2 weeks after it ended

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

"TPLQ"?

quartata

I had tons of languages up my sleeve too :P

Calvin's Hobbies

@Seadrus Edit the answer here: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/8007/…

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Programming Language Quiz

Calvin's Hobbies

The*

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

04:04

oh

Anonymous

It looks a lot better now that I converted it to RGB:

quartata

Anyways now that I can see deleted answers I have read every single answer on that question

I feel enlightened

Anonymous

quartata

Esolangs buzzing through my head

Filled with... SP3000NATION

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego nightmare fule

quartata

04:05

Or something

@Mego favicon + your image blender?

yikes

Anonymous

@quartata The Meta favicon I made, which was essentially just grayscaling the favicon and editing the leaves

Sp3000

@quartata ... did I do something? :o

quartata

No

Seadrus

@Calvin'sHobbies ty

quartata

Actually, did you win the robbers challenge or did Dennis win that?

Sp3000

04:07

Dennis did

quartata

Ah

Anonymous

Regular PPCG favicon blended:

Anonymous

quartata

By the way, this mini PLQ thing I posted a month ago in chat:

Dec 1 '15 at 2:56, by quartata

(utt.synth (Utterance Text ""))
(format t "Hello, World!")

The language was Festival Lisp

Totally forgot I did that

Dec 1 '15 at 3:02, by quartata

If it doesn't get cracked in an hour I'll reveal it.

i-lied

Anonymous

Valve hour

Anonymous

04:09

Anyone got any other images they wanna see blended?

quartata

Yeah one second

Blend Minibits's face:

Geobits would approve

PhiNotPi

Blend my avatar.

quartata

I wonder what that would look like honestly

Anonymous

I tried Fry's avatar last night

Anonymous

Not surprisingly, it didn't change

Anonymous

04:15

quartata's avatar:

Anonymous

quartata

Making that my new avatar

Anonymous

Minibits (warning nightmare fuel):

Anonymous

Maltysen

omg

GamrCorps

04:16

what did you do

quartata

I'm so sorry I asked

Anonymous

Actually that doesn't look so bad blown up

Anonymous

It looks much worse as a thumbnail

NinjaBearMonkey

I bet mine would look nice

quartata

@Geobits

Anonymous

04:17

Phi:

Anonymous

What I did

Anonymous

Ninja:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

is it in python 2 or 3 @Mego?

Anonymous

04:19

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 2

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego sighs

Could you do my avatar?

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Why don't you have Python 2?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I don't need it.

quartata

More to the point what insane OS comes with only Python 3

Anonymous

I should just make this a heroku app >_>

quartata

04:20

You can use 2to3 if you want I suppose

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Mine didn't come with Python

#WindowsUserPleaseDontShootMe

quartata

More to the point what insane OS doesn't come with Python

Oh. Ohhhh

Anonymous

Cygwin power

Calvin's Hobbies

@El'endiaStarman What was that color-maze post you made that I really liked? The name escapes me

El'endia Starman

Black and White Rainbows

Calvin's Hobbies

04:21

yes

Anonymous

Dennis

@quartata Remember when we talked about adding shoco to Jelly?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

is that it? O_O

Anonymous

Yep

quartata

@Dennis yes?

Dennis

04:22

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A: "Hello, World!"

Jelly, 8 bytes “3ḅaė;œ» Try it online!

Anonymous

Symmetric stuff gets turned into 70s-like images

quartata

!

How did you get it working in Python?

Anonymous

Asymmetric stuff turns into a pixel explosion

quartata

Also cool stuff

Dennis

@quartata I didn't. shoco is way longer.

quartata

04:23

Oh..

What's this then?

Dennis

My own creation. Doesn't really have a name yet.

quartata

How it worky

Anonymous

shoco?

quartata

@Mego It's a compressor

Anonymous

Oh

Dennis

04:24

@Mego ed-von-schleck.github.io/shoco

quartata

Also @Dennis can you refresh my chat profile real quick

Sp3000

Not going for the bubblegum route? Or is that only good for long stuff?

Dennis

@quartata Done.

quartata

thanks

Dennis

@Sp3000 Bubblegum works well for long strings, but the best it can do for short ones in packed printable ASCII.

My new method uses an English dictionary. It encodes 2-5 letter words, with an optional leading space in 2.12 - 2.32 bytes, and longer words in 2.56 - 2.76 bytes.

Sp3000

04:28

Fair enough, makes sense

Dennis

The primary use case in English text. I'll also add Bubblegum, for other stuff.

quartata

I had thought about a similar approach for pl

How does it do with something like this: "IntegerStringDecimal"

Just curious

Actually, better yet

What's the compression atom? :P

Sp3000

Any plans for data lookup methods, e.g. 1 -> one (num -> word) or Australia -> Canberra (geo data)? Probably ways away though

quartata

@Sp3000 That would be... something if it was ever included in a golfing lang.

Sp3000

I have a mental list of things that'll probably happen someday, and that's one of them :P

Dennis

04:30

@quartata There is none. The string terminator decides how the string is processed. “...” is literal, “...» is the new compressor.

quartata

No I mean for compressing the string not decompressing

Dennis

@Sp3000 Yes, but way in the future. There's a lot of stuff I need earlier.

quartata

So I can test it

Dennis

@quartata That doesn't exist (yet). I've encoded the HW example by hand.

quartata

yipes

well cool stuff

I have now officially lost all determination to work on pl

Dennis

04:32

I want to play with it a bit first. For example, I might get rid of the short/long distinction and encode each word in 2.45 - 2.65 bytes.

quartata

guess I'll maybe tinker with my idea for a 4-bit instruction stack based language and my idea for competitor with Retina while crying in a corner chewing cinnamon gum

Jelly is the future

+1

Dennis

@quartata Well, there's at least one challenge where pl will remain at the top. I don't think I could get 2spooky4me in 12 bytes...

quartata

What does "spooky" compress to with your compressor?

Just curious.

Probably not that small

@Geobits I take it you've seen @Mego's creation.

Dennis

@quartata ×¥X

Anonymous

50% compression is nothing to sneeze at

quartata

04:40

Whoa.

Sp3000

Any chances for a bit to indicate capitalisation (like with the leading space) or is that not as useful?

Dennis

You can already swap the capitalization of the first letter of a word.

I'm not sure if I should implement it for entire words.

Doorknob

I got a time capsule entry by someone who claims to be named "PLS SEND TEH CODES." Nobody with that username exists. -.-

quartata

@Doorknob ...

That's weird.

Someone from SO trolling us?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Chess-olition Derby (Suber-Dumb Chess). code-golf (Possible king-of-the-hill?) To differentiate more from a standard chess program challenge. What could be more polar opposites than chess and demolition derby. You would think that no one who enjoys one would enjoy the other... until today. Ch...

Anonymous

04:53

Mained my challenge

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Q: Blending Images

Given an image in plain PPM (P3) format as input, for each pixel p in the image, replace each of the following 4 pixels' red, green, and blue with the floored average value of the respective channels of all 4 pixels: p itself The pixel located at p's location when the image is flipped verticall...

quartata

You should have put Minibits as one of the example images.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Mego How about a more descriptive/interesting title? "Blending Images" could mean anything. Like "Flip it, Flop it, Average it".

quartata

It's kind of an image-processing tradition.

Anonymous

2 hours ago, by Mego

Last call for feedback before posting to main (a better title would be appreciated)

Calvin's Hobbies

04:58

"It's all done with averages and mirrors"

Anonymous

I changed the title to that first suggestion because it's awesome

PhiNotPi

I don't think I'll be able to keep up with this whole 5-challenges-a-day thing.

Also, my bedroom gets really dark when I turn off the lights. The brightest thing is the afterglow in the lightbulbs.

Except right now this phone is the brightest.

FlagAsSpam

When people suggest that HTML is a programming language. ಠ_ಠ

Quill

just say, yeah, like css is a programming language

quartata

@FlagAsSpam Who said that?

FlagAsSpam

05:08

Ugh. Some kid on a MC server that I moderate on.

Anonymous

HTML+CSS is a programming language though, it's TC

FlagAsSpam

He also is a script kiddie who uses small MC hacks like aura and flymods. c: He doesn't get away with it on my server, though.

Quill

@FlagAsSpam like the LOIC on the desktop kind?

FlagAsSpam

@Quill Related.

Not the same.

LOIC is more focused on crashing than anything (as far as I've seen)

Quill

just sayin its a tool of script kiddies :P

FlagAsSpam

05:14

NOTICE ME SENPAI! (sorry, I had to.) — FlagAsSpam 8 secs ago

Quill

one of the podcasts he was in was great

quartata

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A: Would "render the Mona Lisa in 1000 bytes" be on topic here?

No. A spec that simply said "recreate the Mona Lisa in 1000 bytes" would be far too broad and vague, even for a popularity-contest. Without an objective criteria for what makes an image resemble the Mona Lisa, golfers have no real goal to shoot for (aside from just simply displaying a photograph...

bot was so slow i had time to answer the question before it

FlagAsSpam

Oh, damn, I actually got a mention in @AlexA.'s post.

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PLZ SEND TEH BAGELZ

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Nathan Merrill

I feel like I might have already asked this here:

FlagAsSpam

05:17

^^ Waiting for the "I LIKE WATERMELONG" correction.

Nathan Merrill

the bernoulli distribution is described by the number of tries needed to achieve failure

FlagAsSpam

@NathanMerrill I timed that so well, my gosh. xD

Nathan Merrill

(or success)

quartata

@NewMetaPosts Don't worry I got ya

Nathan Merrill

:P

quartata

05:18

What kind of bagel do you like? Everything? Sesame?

Nathan Merrill

basically, flip a coin, if tails, flip again, otherwise, count the number of flips

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill That's geometric

Nathan Merrill

ah, so they are related

Anonymous

Bernoulli is 1 with a probability p and 0 with a probability q = 1 - p

Anonymous

Geometric is essentially iterated discrete Bernoulli: how many 0s before you get a 1?

Nathan Merrill

05:20

is there an O(1) way to generate a random geometric number?

Anonymous

I dunno about constant time

Anonymous

But this may help you:

FlagAsSpam

Waffles.

Anonymous

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A: Alex-style Addition

Seriously, 10 bytes ,Σ1±╤_G_\+ This program generates a random variable from a geometric distribution by transforming a uniform distribution. It takes input as a list: [2,3] (braces optional). Try it online. Explanation: ,Σ1±╤_G_\+ ,Σ get sum of input 1±╤_ push ln(0.1) ...

Nathan Merrill

that's constant time

assuming your math is correct

Anonymous

05:26

I pulled it from Wolfram, it must be right :P

Maltysen

@Mego does it have to be plain P3? Can it be binary?

Anonymous

> You may input and output PPM data formatted in any convenient manner, so long as it is valid according to the PPM format described above. The only exception is that you must use the plain (P3) format, and not the binary (P6) format.

Maltysen

derp

Doorknob

Can I input with n newlines in between each pixel, where n is the RGB value of what the transformed pixel should be?

FlagAsSpam

What do you call standard practice on a site?

Something with q, right?

(I'm word hunting)

El'endia Starman

05:33

Guidelines?

Rules? Policies?

Anonymous

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A: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

Hard-coding the output Unless the question is an obvious exception (the primary exception being those tagged kolmogorov-complexity), your program is expected to do work, not just print a pre-calculated result. If the question doesn't require input and so a solution which just prints the answer w...

Doorknob

@Mego that's not that

I'm saying, can the input format be required to also encode the requested output? Actually, I'm just trolling mostly :P

Anonymous

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A: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

Adding input or rules which weren't explicitly mentioned in the challenge There was recently a case where an answerer claimed Nowhere does it say the program can't (also) ask the user what the [result] is. Adding additional input or new rules, because they haven't been explicitly forbidden...

FlagAsSpam

@El'endiaStarman Policies! There we go.

Doorknob

But you said

> any convenient manner

Encoding the output via number of newlines would be very convenient for me.

Anonymous

05:36

@Doorknob I added "consistent", happy? :P

Anonymous

That kind of answer would certainly get deleted because of at least one standard loophole, though

FlagAsSpam

@AlexA. We ask so many questions about MC that we might as well have a tag. xD

Alex A.

@FlagAsSpam It'd be just as easy to search for "minecraft" on meta as it would be to click the tag to find relevant content.

FlagAsSpam

Eh, fair enough.

As for now, it's late enough in the morning for me to play Fallout.

Because waking up at 0330 sucks. ಠ_ಠ

Calvin's Hobbies

Will wordsmith.org/anagram/… finish loading for anyone else?

Anonymous

05:47

@FlagAsSpam 3 or 4?

Doorknob

> Answer a survey question to continue reading this content

haha nope

FlagAsSpam

@Mego 5. c: About to be 6.

Anonymous

FlagAsSpam

^ I get this too.

Anonymous

@FlagAsSpam I meant the game. Fallout 3 or Fallout 4?

FlagAsSpam

05:48

@Mego Oh, 4. Although I frequently play 1 and 2.

Calvin's Hobbies

Darn. There was some good anagram site that allowed nice long words. @Rainbolt might have shown it to me

Anonymous

I'm getting 4 in a couple of days

FlagAsSpam

It's great. :D

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Q: Should we consider the starting mechanism for Minecraft programs?

Time to add to the list of Minecraft Meta Questions! So, my question is fairly basic. When we run programs in other langs through the command line, we don't count anything but their flags. For example, take Java. java B.java [arguments] We wouldn't count this bit to run the program. We would c...

discussion policy scoring

Anonymous

I was never a big fan of TBS games like 1 and 2

Anonymous

05:49

@Calvin'sHobbies It loaded for me

Anonymous

gist.github.com/Mego/6ab9009599f66dcdee3b

FlagAsSpam

> A Handled Pool Sort

Doorknob

Shoo a landlord pet

FlagAsSpam

Yus.

Doorknob

A dado phone trolls

Alex A.

05:51

A Paddle Horn Stool

Calvin's Hobbies

@Mego (>^_^)>

Doorknob

A handed troll oops

Alex A.

A Stalled Droop Hon

FlagAsSpam

> A Dados Phone Troll

Oh, wait.

Ninja'd.

Doorknob

A darned sloth pool

^ hahaha I find that one hilarious for some reason

Calvin's Hobbies

05:52

> A Laden Lords Photo

Doorknob

"Oh, a pool of liquified sloths on the ground. Darn."

FlagAsSpam

> Get off my lawn with your darned sloth pool, you filthy teenagers!

Alex A.

@Doorknob God dammit, my pool is all full of sloths!

Sp3000

STANDARD LOOPHOLES -> SHOOS DEADPAN TROLL ?

Calvin's Hobbies

I'm dunb

Alex A.

05:54

> dunb

@quartata What happened to your avatar? You look like Christmas.

Doorknob

STANDARD LOOPHOLE -> OH ENTRAP ALL DODOS

Anonymous

@AlexA. codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/69049/… happened

Doorknob

this is fun

Alex A.

I had a feeling

> hornets

FlagAsSpam

@VoteToSpam Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAAAAM! Seriously though, I like the name. — FlagAsSpam 9 secs ago

Doorknob

05:56

LED spoon halos, drat

Tornadoes hold pals

Alex A.

aw they hold hands

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