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9:00 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, blacklisted user: A cursor with the name 'MY_CURSOR' already exists by Skywalker on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

@SmokeDetector fp-

@Mithrandir Even I am willing to work with you guys. Thats why I always said I am just concerned about our identity being hooked up as Blacklisted on GITHUB under your account. You maintain your personal database and keep whatever you want thats not my concern. But if our identity is linked up as Blacklisted on a third party site then absolutely we will be concerned about it.

So I am one more time requesting you to delete all the URLs that are linking our identity as Blacklisted from your GITHUB posts or account.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, +4 more: www.healthdietalert.com/luster-age-defying-cream/ by Hubert Dickson on apple.SE

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@SmokeDetector k

@tripleee I volunteer for Chinese translation (I'm native to) for Smokey's report.

9:04 AM

@Tech Can you please explain why exactly being blacklisted on our personal list is bad for you?

@Mithrandir Keep the list personal I have no issues with that. But do not make it public on a site like GITHUB.

Why? I assume you do know what the point of GitHub is?

on the side I am also emailing to the provided email ID so that you can do the needful.

GitHub is a place for people to put their code and work on it. It's good for a collaborative project like this one.

The blacklist is - at the moment - part of the code.

So it goes into GitHub.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Am I screwed? Transferred USDT from Polinex to USD dollars in Coinbase and now it's gone by Brett Azar on bitcoin.SE

naa- by Mithrandir

9:08 AM

Asking us to remove it from GitHub is asking us to remove it completely from our detection processes.

I am again repeating - I have no issues with your code, your work, your personal database. I am only concerned that my company's reputation has been put on a negative side on a public place openly like GITHUB.

by your accounts

If you see anymore Chinese (Simplified or Traditional, even if it's Cantonese) and have trouble understanding, I am able to provide help.

meeting postponed but browser acting up, gimme a sec ...

@Tech Would you prefer if we did it on another account? </sarcasm>

This is getting awkeard really fast

9:10 AM

@Tech we have asked you multiple times specifically and explicitly to explain why and how this is a problem, can you please tell us that? it helps assess the feasibility of a possible solution

@Tech I don't understand why we affect your reputation. The spammers did, not us.

@Tech You still haven't answered my question. Why do you say that this is giving you a bad reputation?

@Tech I too am concerned that our site's sanitation is being put on a negative side by direct damage by spamming.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Several of Limitations of kyto trim Not awesome by Hion1977 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@iBug excellent, thanks! should we put you on the wiki page for language resources available to Charcoal as well? (hang on, hunting down link)

9:11 AM

Why does the list matter to the "reputation" of your site? Tell us that, or we cannot help you, unfortunately.

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

@paper1111 spammers are already banned by respective sites. So the action is already taken.

@tripleee That's what I'm implicitly requesting :)

@tripleee charcoal-se.org/pings/langs

All variants of Chinese.

9:12 AM

@NVZ because it is linking our identity as Blacklisted on a public place by your accounts.

@Tech Who is going to be looking at the source code for our bot though?

@Tech can you point to some resource to verify that this is actually affecting your SEO for example?

@Mithrandir thanks, will edit

@Tech I don't think that's how it works. But you didn't answer how it would affect your site in particular.

And you keep repeating 'by your accounts'. Why is the fact that it's our accounts so important?

@Tech We can easily add a few words of description that "This site has known spam history" so as not to confuse viewers from thinging from "blacklist". Would that be satisfactory?

9:15 AM

@NVZ It effects our online reputation - repeated multiple times in above discussion trail.

Do we support comments (starting with hash #) in those txt's?

@Tech affects how? repeated multiple times as you can easily see even without scrolling back

I know we do for RegExs.

we are going around in circles.. The question is how?

@iBug not really now

9:16 AM

@Tech So do you think that we are affecting Google's reputation? We have an entry for sites.google.com; are we ruining Google's reputation?

there's a hack you can put in so a regex which doesn't match anything is ignored as part of the expression

sorry, this needs to be ended - every new person is coming up here and revolving the discussion around.

@tripleee I think it's only an extra line of code (for if) and a few extra lines indented.

@Tech No, we're trying to understand why you're making your request.

@Tech do you need a list of open questions or how would you like to proceed? I agree that this discussion is not moving in the right direction

9:17 AM

@Tech The discussiln is revolving around because you haven't answered our question directly: Why and How?

@tripleee You can even do te[sssss]t, and it still only matches test

@Ferrybig as alluded to in an earlier comment, yeah (-:

@Tech If you can provide a convincing answer, we're eager to proceed your request.

@tripleee That'd damage performance. I don't like it.

Perhaps @Tech, @tripleee, and perhaps I can move to a different room to continue this if @Tech feels like people are piling on?

@Mithrandir Great job. I'll be coming if you move.

9:18 AM

@iBug how many times same answer I have to repeat. It is no concern of yours to know how we manage our online reputation.

@Tech You're making it our concern by demanding that we remove your website from our blacklist.

@Tech we need to understand the scope of changes that are acceptable to you

@Tech We understand your concern about your reputation. But do you understand our concern for spam on our sites?

@iBug I meant Tech as the one with the complaint, trip as an admin, and me as a mod in case I'm needed :)

@iBug which of your sites our company has done spam - explain me ?

9:20 AM

@Tech We showed you the Metasmoke records. The actual posts have been removed by now, but we keep a record.

@Tech again, can we please pause the discussion until we have decided how exactly to proceed in a more controlled fashion?

@Tech See this message.

@Mithrandir those were of Stackoverflow and Stackoverflow have already taken actions on those users.

is that your site ?

@iBug Thx, I had my mouse over you message while you edited it, now Mithrandir chat is highlighted in my chat forever

@iBug github.com/Charcoal-SE/charcoal-se.github.io/pull/26 looks like I don't have direct commit access there but should be going through as soon as @JF wakes up (-:

9:22 AM

@Ferrybig Go submit a question on Meta :)

@tripleee Thanks!

@Ferrybig Mostly a problem that's no more than a refresh.

@Tech No, we are not affiliated with Stack Overflow Inc., officially. We are a volunteer group detecting spam on Stack Overflow and the rest of the sites in the Stack Exchange network. Should we remove to a different room now to have a more organized discussion?

@Ferrybig I think there's a way to cancel that, try Esc?

@Mithrandir Stack Exchange Inc. :)

@iBug Officially, the name is Stack Overflow Inc.

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/71171/… <- others please feel free to join but please do not speak unless specifically requested to

9:26 AM

@iBug See stackoverflow.blog/2015/09/15/…

@Tech can you please join the separate room I created, I'll outline a procedure

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL body: Azure SQL, MySQL/Postgres SQL How HADR for Postgres SQL build on REDHAT Linux server by Rams Gajua on serverfault.com

@tripleee already we discussed a lot since many hours.

→ 5 messages moved to Blacklist removal discussion (Metasmoke #304 / SmokeDetector #1444)

fp- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

9:27 AM

@SmokeDetector fp-

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: TestoSup Xtreme Attempt cashew nuts, peanuts by momuzowuf on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector tpu-

@Magisch please don't pile on any further, I think we have made our points

BTW, how long did the discussion went on?

9:30 AM

alright

[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/pr failure on b98ac4a: The Travis CI build failed

3 hours ago, by Tech

Hi SmokeDetector maintainers

I slept at around 6 AM UTC and woke up at around 8:30 AM UTC.

3 hours.

You're so hard-working.

9:32 AM

whoa invalid GitHub credentials!? travis-ci.org/Charcoal-SE/charcoal-se.github.io/builds/…

I'm currently resisting the urge to make a meta post about this

@Magisch Don't do that (as of now).

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@iBug Less than 3 hours for rest... not good for your health.

→ 6 messages moved to Blacklist removal discussion (Metasmoke #304 / SmokeDetector #1444)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +4 more: newsletter4health.com/muscle-ss-boost/ by olfhngdd on astronomy.SE

9:34 AM

@SmokeDetector k

tpu- by Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

@TetsuyaYamamoto Hey guy I'm in China. GMT+8, it's 2PM to 4:30PM here.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: cleanserenewdenmark.com/renuvaline/ by user778523 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@iBug Are you just taking a nap? I'm also do that.

9:37 AM

@TetsuyaYamamoto Yeah afternoon nap.

@TetsuyaYamamoto I would have already been severely sick if I only slept 2.5h overnight.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, phone number detected in title, potentially bad keyword in body: Cheapest Sex Toy for male in Orissa,Sambalpur call - 9883715895 by user23876 on superuser.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto @iBug)

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +4 more: acaiultralean-france.com/nutralu-garcinia/ by user778530 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by paper1111

@SmokeDetector k

9:41 AM

@tripleee Probably because pull requests shouldn't have access to github credentials (for security reasons), is probably an oversight in the build process that it refuses to run without those creds

!!/blacklist-website (adult)?sextoyindia\.com

@Mithrandir That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer and Pattern-matching website in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

!!/blacklist-website-force (adult)?sextoyindia\.com

@Mithrandir Blacklisted (adult)?sextoyindia\.com

4/4; seems to be more of a spread-out campaign

9:45 AM

CI on 4f80586 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 4f80586 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of (adult)?sextoyindia\.com by Mithrandir --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 17139.

@Ferrybig is this a bug or a transient error or something else

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL answer: I can't access my Aol.com mail account by phoebe hansen on webapps.SE

in Blacklist removal discussion (Metasmoke #304 / SmokeDetector #1444), 1 min ago, by Feeds

tripleee has added Mithrandir to the list of this room's owners.

Oh, thanks.

@tripleee I just look at the closed pull requests, it shows the issue is there since 14 Sep 2017.

9:47 AM

I changed the blacklisting room to gallery mode and added Mithrandir as a room owner in case I'm not available when something comes up ... but let's wait for a response

fp- by paper1111

I'm surprised with how accomodating you're being @tripleee

Tetsuya Yamamoto

@SmokeDetector f

Errr I'm actually not quite sure if this is not spam as the site isn't official

@Magisch is that praise or criticism? (-: we hardly want to make it impossible to avoid trouble, there just needs to be a procedure

9:50 AM

@tripleee not sure tbh. I'd have told them to go pound sand instantly

Legally and procedurally they have no recourse even if they want to. They have to entirely rely on our goodwill to get anywhere

looks like that's what they did already

tbh the darker side of me wants to publicly name and shame them on meta to actualize the consequences of trying to bully us into doing their online reputation management for them

I'd have added a pair of brackets in a jiffy if they were able to confirm that this is sufficient but I won't spend more time on that if they lost interest

@Magisch that would be of topic lol

[tawk.to/chat/582c9cbf8147e4684e46377e/default?$_tawk_popout=true&$_taw‌k_sk=5a4df94be192c53f270d15c1&$_tawk_tk=dd3efb5f818fa40fb629c785773c9942&v=573](t‌empted to go discuss this with them)

9:53 AM

@paper1111 as you are a regular and IIRC a speaker of Chinese, could I add you to the languages page as well? (sorry if my memory is playing tricks with me)

we have a languages page?

:o

@tripleee yeah ok it's my native language

@Mithrandir what's that?

company contact chat on their website, I suppose

It's supposed to be the 'chat with us' link from their website

9:53 AM

@paper1111 You native to Chinese?

@Magisch this github.com/Charcoal-SE/charcoal-se.github.io/pull/26

@Mithrandir they approached us, let them think about this now if they need to

@iBug ya

@paper1111 Hong Kong...

@iBug yup

@tripleee flipside is, do we even know it's their official representative

Or is this some disgruntled dev

9:55 AM

@paper1111 So more precisely you're native to Cantonese?

@paper1111 no pressure but since iBug requested to be added and you popped in now, if you like I'll add you in a separate PR

@tripleee it's fine

@iBug well yeah

@Magisch that's one of the things I think we need to include in the procedure -- thanks for bringing that up

My guess is they'll moan to github, and github will tell them to pound sand, and we'll never hear from it again

But I must say I'm pretty angry at the arrogance on display

yeah, not a smooth appearance

9:56 AM

@Magisch If happy ever after did exist, haha

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Testo SS Boost - Raises your energy and stamina by emmacalderon on workplace.SE

tpu- by Magisch

@SmokeDetector k

Yeah, I'm considering just asking them: "Hi, I'm from Charcoal-SE. Did you reach out to us recently?"

I'm curious why "Pattern matching website" often misses the first and the last character.

If anything my personal perception of the company shifted massively towards negative after this appearance here

9:59 AM

For example, the first letter W is missing, though I think it's correctly caught.

!!/coffee

@paper1111 brews a cup of Latte for @paper1111

After this it's time to drink some coffee

!!/coffee paper1111

@iBug brews a cup of Macchiato for @iBug

Tetsuya Yamamoto

10:00 AM

!!/tea Mithrandir

@TetsuyaYamamoto brews a cup of jasmine tea for @Mithrandir

@iBug there's a lookaround in the regex, the report contains the captured part but not the lookaround which is non-capturing by definition

acccepts thank you

@iBug brews a cup of Macchiato for @paper1111

but probably something like \w{1,4}? maybe and so it takes a shorter match than the maximum it could capture

10:00 AM

I guess it's good to formulate an official policy on companies contacting us about their image

@Magisch yeh that's why I created a separate Metasmoke bug about how to do this properly

As much as I'd like that policy to be "No, go away, you silly spammers" that'd be too undiplomatic

@tripleee Where in the code?

@iBug Nice thanks

@iBug not really able to look into that at the mo, maybe run it locally to find out (sorry, meetings and work discussions galore IRL going on at the same time here)

10:02 AM

@tripleee I'm digging into the code myself and (probably) looking for other bugs/inconsistency.

@iBug that would be a nice one to fix actually, so yeah, go for it (-:

@tripleee And I have to learn Python first :)

FWIW I'm almost certain metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/79235 is keyword spam now

After looking at the other occurences this has similarity in user name mentions and is only tangentially related to its question

@Magisch Can't extract keyword from that post. Can you provide one?

@Magisch One thing we have to put into that article is that most of the pages are excluded from web crawlers by robots.txt, metasmoke fully, and github on all commit and blob url's

10:05 AM

"keyword spam" in terms of "Hey this question/article is about <$genericKeyword> lemme post an article about <$genericKeyword>"

usually used to increase a site's SEO rating and association rating for special keywords

Hmmm. English SO is exempt from Mostly non-latin???

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: this commit be entire for crew and a useful reference. by Wasis19 00 on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

Oh, SO is answer only.

tpu- by Ferrybig

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: www.guidemenutrition.com/testo-ss-boost/ by OapdTbro on astronomy.SE

sdk

sd k

10:08 AM

sd k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +4 more: supplementssafe.com/force-fit-xl/ by ewej Smith123 on apple.SE

tpu- by Ferrybig

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: This element segment is knitted mutually by One ten on drupal.SE

tpu- by paper1111

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: chiefsupplement.com/purely-organic-release-cream/ by JamesMotyka on apple.SE

tpu- by paper1111

@iBug you might want to ping JF to get on this list.

@Glorfindel Thanks. tripleee has already suggested a PR.

OK, I'm just catching up with all the messages :)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: With the ingredients, by Wasis19 00 on superuser.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto @iBug)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Do a checkup together along with by vcebgagyp on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

10:21 AM

All my SO flags are ageing away :(

I'm one flag of Deputy with 14 in review

Whats tag-spam? - I saw it here

Putting a lot of tags on your question for the sole purpose of having many people look at your question.

Most people don't browse the main question page of Stack Overflow, but rather filter by tag such as [java] or [c#].

It's not the kind of spam we deal with.

@JakeSymons Like "How can I fix my computer [tag:c++][tag:c][tag:java]"

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in body: spark streaming so slow by no123ff on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector v

@iBug so people just want there question to get noticed

10:25 AM

I think I'm going to fix this repeating character first.

It's easy to fix.

Looks like we had a fun debate last night

@ArtOfCode Well it's still the same day for me but yeah

@ArtOfCode what did I miss?

@JakeSymons Someone arguing that we should remove their site from a file named blacklist

Indeed.

Starts here and ends... I guess it still hasn't.

10:27 AM

@Tech I'm one of the project directors here, insofar as we have them. @Undo is the other. I'm reviewing your request to see if there's anything I've missed, but I suspect the answer will be that it stays there.

Why did they want it removed?

Apparently it's defamation

Well you could look at the transcript

4 hours ago, by Tech

1) https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1064
2) https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/blacklisted_websites.txt
3) https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1024
4) https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/commit/5e8df999d2b45451f6d8c514d501b8914ced23ba
5) https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/commit/48cab183a5ffd97a9d4420d87228847f0d89b275
6) https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/commit/3b4fe425f8c05b68f7fce9d620cd06af6e1190f7

on these URLs I see Webline India .com as blacklisted. I am not sure why it is there. Can you please remove…

It's here

@ArtOfCode how?

I'm gonna spend a while reading transcript and issues, come up with an answer, and drop it here, cc'd to admins

10:32 AM

Its got an 8:1 tp, is it his website or something??

That's what he's claiming.

@tripleee great answer :) I need to get up earlier

I found a bug in reason display.

I guess that even if we would remove/obfuscate the blacklist entry, the PRs he mentioned will still be publicly visible, right?

I'm baffled why we're considering to accomodate this at all

Guess y'all are a lot more magnanimous then I'd be

10:36 AM

@Glorfindel Yup they can only be deleted by GitHub

For example

The reason says Post - Repeated character: *aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbbbccccccccccccccaaaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbbbcccccccccccccc*‌

I believe it would be more reasonable if it's written as

Post - Repeated character: *aaaaaaaaaaaaa*, *bbbbbbbbbbbb*, *cccccccccccccc*, *aaaaaaaaaaaaa*, *bbbbbbbbbbbb*, *cccccccccccccc*

@Magisch well, I seriously consider the possibility that those users aren't affiliated with the website. That doesn't make it not spam, but I can understand Tech's frustration.

Is that worth fixing?

@ArtOfCode From a purely legal perspective, libel only applies to things which are false statements. Blacklisting a site doesn't accuse it of anything

I'm lowering the "repeated" threshold from 11 to 10 as well.

10:37 AM

@Glorfindel If I was a business owner I wouldn't be thrilled either but my anger would be directed at the spammers

@Magisch my default position is no, but I want to make sure I've reviewed everything in case there's anything exceptional before I actually go making decisions

@Magisch But Tech (apparently) can't control those. He can't even contact them.

@Rob indeed

And if I'd ask for something like this at all I'd do it in a less insulting and arrogant way

!!/test aaaaaaaaaa (10 repeated)

10:38 AM

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

@Magisch 100% truth.

!!/test aaaaaaaaaaa (11 repeated)

> Repeating characters in body, repeating characters in title
----------
Title - Repeated character: *aaaaaaaaaaa*
Post - Repeated character: *aaaaaaaaaaa*

I guess the method of contact just rubs me wrong

No one responds to me :( Fine I'll submit a PR directly.

10:39 AM

Was it made clear to them that Smokey isn't actually affiliated with StackExchange, and that the site is not banned, but merely being watched?

I can understand the frustration I can't understand coming in here like you own the place and then making rude demands and accusing us of defaming your company and trying to intimidate us

gotta say I'm extremely unimpressed with how they chose to go about this

my main browser is acting up so I can't type in this room right now (weird)

@Magisch I absolutely agree, as it was said in the transcript, we were just going roundin circles

but @art I'll add you as an owner in the separate room I created

i did that already

although it really has little-to-no effect

10:41 AM

@Mithrandir thanks, mainly just to give Art a more focused view of the current state

@tripleee ta

The FP out of the 9 reports containing weblineindia has since been deleted as spam on SO, btw

someone link me?

to the chatroom that is

Blacklist removal discussion (Metasmo…

We want to keep this reasonably focused. Please don't speak un...

tpu by ArtOfCode on Best software development methodology for sole programmer [MS]

10:43 AM

@Magisch marked as tp

dear diary today I sniped triplee

today is a good day :D

yeah, this ain't happening

Sides, we can't even remove 5/6 requested even if we wanted to

github saves this stuff and we can't edit it out

Does this happen a lot, arguments over blacklists?

first time afaik

@ArtOfCode they may complain to github, so we may have to deal with that

although I suspect github will tell them to pound sand

If they try with a DMCA request thats a count of criminal perjury

10:48 AM

@Magisch fine by me, they have no legal argument here.

sure

A polite request would have more chance of working - I'd still have said no, but it'd've been better than legal threats.

DMCA doesn't even apply because there's no copyright involved

in Blacklist removal discussion (Metasmoke #304 / SmokeDetector #1444), 1 min ago, by ArtOfCode

@Tech Unfortunately we can't do what you're asking us to here. Firstly, we have no proof that you're an authorized representative of Webline India. Secondly, from a legal standpoint, this is not defamation. Thirdly and most importantly, removing the domain would be contrary to our project's goals, and you haven't provided any explanation or evidence of how Webline India will be preventing its domain appearing in further spam.

tbh if they'd be polite and present evidence that they've taken steps to discourage their community from spamming and if they'd be an authorized rep of the company

I'd have been fine with obfuscating the rule so it no longer directly links the site

@ArtOfCode Yeah but unscrupulous people like to use it to censor content

@Magisch yup

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +4 more: supplementssafe.com/force-fit-xl/ by betty bernie on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Jake Symons

10:51 AM

I'm quite miffed about this to the point where I considered making a meta post on MSE about how to handle such stuff and how SE thinks about it - mainly to actualize the consequences to company reputation it has when you try and bully people into compliance with legal threats

Anyway, I've got a stickers email to send :)

It might also be worth it to contact actual weblineindia to find out if this was a representative of the company or some overzealous guy from marketing

@ArtOfCode I fixed something. Can you have a look?

@Magisch eh, unnecessary - if we're actually considering doing it then yeah I want to be talking to a rep, but since we've said no there's no need

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: I do the ten reps however once by yomlejalti on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

10:53 AM

alright

@ArtOfCode Thanks.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in title: Can moonmail.io open source version run completely self hosted with our own SMTP servers? by Vishnu S on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

CI on 19d3de5 succeeded.

@SmokeDetector k

Now the report (example] won't look messed up.

CI on 764d327 succeeded.

fp by ArtOfCode

10:56 AM

!!/pull

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 764d327 (ArtOfCode: Merge pull request #1445 from iBug/master) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 16430.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +5 more: Testo SS Boost - www.healthmegamart.com/testo-ss-boost/ by sarageorgel on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@ArtOfCode Woo! How are you getting emails? MS?

@Mithrandir Huh? Nah, I'm sending an email to JNat

oh right

Are we really all getting stickers?

10:57 AM

we organised this with jnat like 3 weeks ago :)

sorry, got muxed up

@Magisch yup, if you're on /people you're getting stickers

neat :o

I quote: "Thanks for reaching out! We'd be pleased to send some swag :)"

@ArtOfCode Am I eligible to be on /people?

More straightforward, am I eligible for stickers?

10:59 AM

Oh, should @CaffeineAddiction be on there too?

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