Charcoal HQ

2:00 PM

I have updated github.com/tripleee/metasmoke/tree/dockerize but it still says mine is 1331 commits ahead of master so I don't think I can create a useful pull request ... can someone figure out what's wrong? did metasmoke master get rolled back to some earlier commit somehow after I forked it?

regardless, how do I reconcile the differences into a manageable PR? there should be no more than a dozen commits or so

8 commits in all in my fork which were authored by me but some of them might even be from some earlier PR

actually maybe I should just cherry-pick those into a separate fork ...?

but not today, I honestly need to get some real paid work done

iBug

Paid work...

Anonymous

@iBug Bah, that's just a myth

iBug

The only people who have no job and participate in SD during their off-class time.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: puresupplements786.com/primal-xl/ by marques marks on astronomy.SE

tripleee

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

2:05 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Vala Facial Serum Gently rub it with a sleek by user20754 on astronomy.SE

tpu- by iBug

iBug

@SmokeDetector Ah, the FIRE US.

tripleee

reminder to $self: my original dockerize branch is now locally called dockerize-oooops

github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/pull/305 <- dockerize pull request

the README.md contains some very crude notes

(the guy I was trying to set up a meeting with is not responding. I realize that I am simply coping with cognitive dissonance here ...)

SmokeDetector

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 594056d: Your tests passed on CircleCI!

iBug

@tripleee PR updated.

SmokeDetector

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 594056d: Your tests passed on CircleCI!

iBug

2:12 PM

PR #1446

Ferrybig

@tripleee You should call it mobylize instead of dockerize, as the project has been renamed: github.com/docker/docker (it redirects to the new name)

iBug

I moved the more general phone number to watchlist.

tripleee

@Ferrybig hmmm, the command is still called docker and the file is called Dockerfile ... right? it's been called moby on Github for as long as I have been paying attention (which is not altogether a very long time I admit)

iBug

You may have to resolve conflict by merging the changes because an extra watchlist item was added.

Anonymous

@Ferrybig Moby != Docker

tripleee

2:14 PM

thanks, I'll take another look when I get a chance (which is probably tomorrow, so probably somebody else will also look at it before me)

iBug

Wait, conflict resolved by myself :)

Can't save resolution?

Ah, saved.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Could this issue be with the programmer or the camera? by aaronpawlak on craftcms.SE

fp- by iBug

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, +5 more: Renux Garcinia Cambogia by user778635 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Videonauth

tpu by iBug on Download the earlier iso images [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link: How to check yahoo email with python by Idreams on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by iBug

iBug

2:37 PM

Consider removing common extensions from "links"

Doesn't look like an easy stuff to fix

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating words in answer: How to modify a text file? by ye boy on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to modify a text file? by ye boy on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

iBug

It's not catching shit. Shouldn't be hard to fix this.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer: What Russell 2000 price action would move TZA on the upside back to its 6000 level? by Nick Mast on money.SE

Nathaniel

!!/allnotificationsites 11540

SmokeDetector

You will get notified for these sites:
christianity.stackexchange.com, latin.stackexchange.com

iBug

2:49 PM

I'll try to fix the extension mistreated as link issue tomorrow.

!!/test Sample Python file name foo.py

SmokeDetector

> Url in title, misleading link
----------
Title - Position 34-52: https://github.com
Post - Domain github.com indicated by possible misleading text foo.py.

iBug

!!/test Sample plain text file foo.txt.

SmokeDetector

> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 33-55: https://www.google.com

iBug

shrug

Should be a bug that an offensive word is not detected. Fix proposal here.

Undo

can't review now

Blacklist changes should be made strictly on the basis of effectiveness. It's not defamation, let me know when there's a lawyer involved. cc @ArtOfCode @Magisch @tripleee

Magisch

2:56 PM

@Undo so basicly what I'd been thinking

Whats your stance on obfuscating a blacklist entry (with no change on effectiveness) when a company asks nicely?

Undo

That'd probably be a decent middle ground

iBug

Does anyone know what is "coverage"?

Undo

unless they're actually a spam company. If they're just an unfortunate common carrier, it's probably reasonable to throw a bracket or two in there.

Magisch

@Undo did you read the entire convo? It's actually quite humorous, the guy threatens us with legal action and action against our github accounts

And we still don't know in how far he even was an authorized rep of the company

Undo

@Magisch yeah, don't worry about that. I'll handle it if it happens.

iBug

2:59 PM

He was even incoherent when answering our questions.

ArtOfCode

@Magisch sent an email saying "hey this is coming up wanna send us some swag?"

Magisch

neat

Undo

@Undo but we can't change the commits, either way. Those are probably there forever.

Magisch

@Undo the guy said he would be contacting github to get them to remove all of it, so that's probably what he meant

Undo

good luck with that

Magisch

3:06 PM

although I don't think github will do anything or even respond at all

NVZ

still on that subject, all day? lol

iBug

Makes no sense for GitHub to do anything.

Undo

I kinda resurrected it

iBug

They have far more to do before they can convince GitHub to take down our code.

Magisch

My curiosity still wants me to find out who this guy was and if he was acting on behalf of the company or on his own

Undo

3:07 PM

Probably best not to push it

Magisch

yeah thats what I'm thinking too

NVZ

And what if, what if it's all part of a plan? What if getting it removed from our blacklist is part of a future spam challenge? o_O

iBug

Removed = Yay they surrendered so we can start spamming again!

Magisch

considering how generic and bog standard the occurences have been so far nah

I don't think a spammer would come to us and accost us because we disrupted their spam :p

NVZ

@Magisch There's a first time for everything. ;)

Stranger things have happened.

SmokeDetector

3:10 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: --TestoBoost--Pro-- by Portic48 on money.SE

tpu- by Magisch

iBug

3:21 PM

Good night. I'm going to sleep zzz.

Local time 11:22 PM (GMT+8)

CaffeineAddiction

@Mithrandir that would be cool

no expectations though

been really busy w/ my new job of late so I havent been around much

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: I unknowingly went $1200 over my credit card limit, how do I fix it? by bridget woolmar on money.SE

WELZ

sd k

Andy

I missed some drama. Who's threatening us?

Glorfindel

9 hours ago, by Tech

Hi SmokeDetector maintainers

and the next couple of hours.

NVZ

3:37 PM

@Andy You're lucky.

@Glorfindel And an intermission, and then back at it now I guess.

WELZ

@Glorfindel When did the "threatening" start?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Telehandlers Pakistan | Telehandlers for rent in Pakistan by autolinkpk on mathoverflow.net

WELZ

@SmokeDetector k

8 hours ago, by Tech

Then I might have to put this up on GITHUB against your account. I have been trying to request you more than 5 times now and make you understand that our website has no connection to all this still you guys have put us on spot.

NVZ

3:58 PM

@WELZ Not much of a threat, that is, unless Liam Neeson says it.

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want......... If you don't remove my website from your list, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you...

WELZ

hack you*

LMAO

Andy

@ArtOfCode Did you send this via email? I didn't get the CC

CaffeineAddiction

@Glorfindel hilarious read

ArtOfCode

@Andy just chat in the end

CaffeineAddiction

tempting to make a public repo on my account called "websites that suck" with one site listed

ArtOfCode

4:07 PM

link pending chat actually loading

CaffeineAddiction

and just have everyone fork it

ArtOfCode

in Blacklist removal discussion (Metasmoke #304 / SmokeDetector #1444), 5 hours ago, by ArtOfCode

@Tech Unfortunately we can't do what you're asking us to here. Firstly, we have no proof that you're an authorized representative of Webline India. Secondly, from a legal standpoint, this is not defamation. Thirdly and most importantly, removing the domain would be contrary to our project's goals, and you haven't provided any explanation or evidence of how Webline India will be preventing its domain appearing in further spam.

Andy

ok. I'm still going through the transcripts. this and the other room

SmokeDetector

4:19 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Folder path too long issue in installing Node.js based service by Liam Brown on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

CaffeineAddiction

3h of him complaining about github.com/…

... why?

Videonauth

so he claims to be from this company, so why the heck if its a legitimate honest company, it appeared to be spamming?

CaffeineAddiction

from what I can tell its either a software company or a wordpress plugin company or both

I get why they want to protect there name ... but telling someone to remove it from there github repo is kinda not a thing

Videonauth

yes to make this being forgot you would have to pull the repo and then delete and recreate it, which is in a big software project never a good idea

for one company

quartata

If it really was someone is trying to defame them you'd think they'd appreciate the fact that we're removing the spam

It's not like being on the blacklist has any affect anywhere else, we're not SpamHaus

I don't get it

CaffeineAddiction

4:24 PM

@quartata but even if we where ... or say the authors of adblockplus ... the domain name could be black listed and there is pretty much NOTHING they could do about it

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Error only with php 7.1 how to solve the "Too few arguments to function get_query_var()" by Raffaele Pignataro on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

quartata

sd f

@Undo have all the accounts associated with the webline India spam been destroyed?

If not maybe do a checkuser

Videonauth

god, seems i missed out on a lot of fun today :)

CaffeineAddiction

for what its worth, I talked to my companies compliance lawyer casually about the blacklist ... he said that they have pretty much no legal ground to stand on ... and the closest case he could think of was when people where trying to prevent the AACS decryption key from being published online en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, mostly dots in body: Deleted by owner by KJP on aviation.SE

iBug

4:39 PM

You remember the strange guy that self-vandalized a lot?

He's now placed on timed suspension on 5 sites.

CaffeineAddiction

se sites?

iBug

Available here. Three for 1 wk, two for 1 day.

SmokeDetector

tp- by doppelgreener

iBug

We had a lot of 123456789123456789123456789 reports.

SmokeDetector

naa by iBug on What Russell 2000 price action would move TZA on the upside back to its 6000 level? [MS]

tpu by iBug on How to modify a text file? [MS]

iBug

4:43 PM

A quick search gives you all the results.

When we (probably) managed to stop him from editing his posts into 123456789s, he started deleting his posts on other sites.

That's the reason for his suspension on Security.SE and Movies.SE

CaffeineAddiction

your not allowed to delete your own posts?

Magisch

@CaffeineAddiction sounds about right

Mithrandir

You're allowed to delete one or two here and there, although the community may still decide to undelete them. Mass deletion is something else.

Magisch

even if it would be defamatory, which it isn't, truth is an absolute unconditional defense for defamation

So you can't sue someone for saying something that's true, no matter how damning it is :p

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Testing if a site is vulnerable to Sql Injection by WaZiristani HaXor on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

doppelgreener

4:54 PM

i really like how humanity evolved to have this weird but super convenient core respect for the truth.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by doppelgreener

Videonauth

About deleting posts: you can delete your posts without any recuperation when they: are of negative score and not accepted (in case of answers). For questions you can not delete them if they have a positive scored and/or accepted answer. Mass deletion however will and that is good it does raise moderator flags, because your posts ar not only for yourself as per SE guidelines.

doppelgreener

also if a deleted post is >60 days old, and it's deleted, the author's rep doesn't change. the rep increases/losses applied by votes "stick".

NVZ

One can request disassociating account from the posts.

@doppelgreener not getting that.. what?

doppelgreener

@NVZ if i delete your +10/-0 post that you posted yesterday, you lose the 100 rep you gained from its upvotes. if i instead wait 60 days and delete it, you keep the 100 rep.

NVZ

4:58 PM

@doppelgreener I don't think that's true. Do you know for sure?

Magisch

@doppelgreener It's more that the actionable part of defamation is "You unfairly hurt me" and that unfairly part skips out when what someone's saying about you is true.

@NVZ iirc doppel is right

60d and older and 3+ score

NVZ

@Magisch I see. Any meta about it I can read?

Undo

defamation is very, very hard to prove. You have to prove it was false, then prove that it actually damaged you, and that the defendant knew it was false. Add +10 to difficulty if you're in India and trying to sue a bunch of people on the Internet.

Videonauth

yes there is some meta about that (hope i find it now)

Magisch

@NVZ meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7237/how-does-reputation-work specifically

> Deleting and undeleting posts may reverse reputation effects as well, if these posts have votes. Actions previously taken on deleted posts cease to affect reputation within five minutes (source), unless the post meets both the following criteria (in which case the reputation effects will be permanent) (source):
The post had a score of at least +3
The post has been visible on the site for at least 60 days

Undo

5:00 PM

Trying to sue the internet is pretty much this:

Videonauth

21

Q: Self-deleted posts and the 3 vote / 60 day rule

With regards to Shog's post about Reputation and Historical Archives and the part about retaining reputation earned from deleted posts that have a score of 3 or better and were visible on the site for 60 days, does this also apply to self-deleted posts and will it continue to do so? I culled a f...

Undo

doppelgreener

@Magisch nice! thanks.

NVZ

Thanks, I'm reading those metas now.

@Undo Ah, some days I wish I could delete the internet. But then I wake up, and realize I'm not Chuck Norris.

Magisch

@Undo defamation / libel / slander are all notoriously almost impossible to prove in the US

Videonauth

5:05 PM

@NVZ so now you got a minus point for even considering deleting the Internet, but you mentioned chucky, so you got a plus point aswell, were even :P

Undo

@Magisch As they should be. Free speech is a pretty nice thing.

NVZ

Okay, so thanks for that new info. @doppelgreener @Videonauth @Magisch and all

Magisch

going so far that even giant companies often times don't bother even if they think they have a case, because you need to:

- Prove false the statements
- Prove libellous intent
- Prove concrete damages

especially 2 and 3 of this are almost impossible unless someone admits it to your face

also opinion is also an absolute defense vs accusations in that respect

so unless you specifically and intentionally state a false fact (as fact, explicitly) and damage the other party in a quantifiable and provable way, you can't be sued for it :p

Videonauth

What people don't understand is that their company enters the public domain to some extent as soon they start listing as a business. Sure this makes em eligible to defend the use of their company name by others and so on (if they have taken the proper precautions legally). but imagine coka-cola suing eveyone writing their name somewhere in a review or other manners which is of public interest

Undo

That's a different thing called fair use

Magisch

5:08 PM

this entire thing has nothing to do with copyright tho

You can't copyright a URL

Undo

Huh. Can you?

Never thought about that

Magisch

a URL isn't a copyrightable work

Undo

Can you trademark it?

Magisch

it's a ressource identifier. You can't copyright a URL in the same way I can't copyright a id in a db

Andy

So...not a lawyer, but you sure?

NVZ

5:10 PM

@doppelgreener On IPS.SE, there were some recent waves of deleting old beta-start questions, that are now as per newly evolving scope poor quality questions.. so all the associated answers with many upvotes were lost. So I took some rep hit because I was one of the first few users who filled the site with answers. I thought I lost some rep, because I noticed some fall in my rep. So I'm confused what happened there.

Magisch

IANAL obviously but pretty sure

@Undo I guess you can trademark a brand name and that could be in the URL, no?

Undo

But can I name my company "www.isellstuff.com LLC"?

Andy

Found this on the internet (so, it's true): newmediarights.org/business_models/artist/…

No copyright. Yes trademark

Undo

Sounds right

Magisch

@Undo In trademark law there is a thing called common terms and substantial similaritiy iirc

Undo

5:11 PM

and now we're out of my ability to even fake being a lawyer

Magisch

not a lawyer still but I think this is why tempo lost the trademark for paper cloths

Andy

@Undo You can still pound the desk and shout that you object.

Magisch

When a trademarked word is substantially similar enough or equivalent enough to the common term of a related activity, it can be expired

Undo

I AM A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN

CaffeineAddiction

@Magisch totalycopyrightedthisurl.com

Mithrandir

5:14 PM

You copyrighted a typo? You - you - curmudgeon!

NVZ

what is the "100k posts" message about? Been wondering all day.

12 hours ago, by Undo

100k posts. Thank you all, and congratulations. Someone should be in touch, SE is sending everyone stickers

CaffeineAddiction

google("can I copyright a url")

No, for a variety of reasons web addresses (also known as a domain names or URLs) aren't protected by copyright. Even though copyright doesn't protect domain names, that doesn't mean domain names are entirely unprotected. ... However, it's worth noting one of the major differences between trademark and copyright law.

Magisch

I looked it up, you can lose your trademark if:

- You misuse it or wrongfully sue someone over it (court sanctions can include revoking your trademark alltogether)
- You fail to enforce it after beeing given ample opportunity to do so
- Your trademark becomes a generic term in the population for what you're doing (thats what happened to tempo)

- your trademark isn't sufficiently distinctive

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Set <Header> above Other Elements - CSS by 727customz on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by rene

ArtOfCode

@NVZ means we've caught 100k posts with Smokey

CaffeineAddiction

5:18 PM

@Magisch """becomes a generic term in the population""" Kleenex is pretty generic at this point

@ArtOfCode only 100k? seems like it should have been more than that by now

Magisch

@CaffeineAddiction yeah and iirc both cleenex and coke are currently fighting in court to avoid having their trademarks revoked

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction 100k is a big number

NVZ

@ArtOfCode oho.. nice!

Magisch

That is over 80000 actual spam posts

CaffeineAddiction

@ArtOfCode it is, what is the time range though?

ArtOfCode

5:23 PM

@CaffeineAddiction 2 years

CaffeineAddiction

not bad

Magisch

I just realized I've been here for more then a year

now I feel old

NVZ

I wish to someday see those spams removed in advance, maybe like Minority Report.

We shall make a pre-spam unit, much like the pre-crime unit in Minority Report.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +3 more: allsupplement4u.com/calminax-pl/ by jerrodser on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

CaffeineAddiction

@NVZ already exists ...

NVZ

5:29 PM

Something like.. when a spammy link is typed or copied into the text editor, SE blocks the attempt right then and there. Takes a while to teach the machine to be accurate in predicting spam links.

CaffeineAddiction

code name: captcha

Videonauth

holy I#m finally finished reading the transcript

NVZ

@Videonauth You win a gold badge for that. ;)

Videonauth

really? site wide ?

:D

CaffeineAddiction

I would settle for a cookie

Videonauth

5:31 PM

hehehe

NVZ

@CaffeineAddiction Mmmmm.. Tasty, cookies are.

Videonauth

well, not sure what to say about the matter, i can understand this guy wants his site of a blacklist, but thats not how the system works

NVZ

@Videonauth That's not how the world works. We have no control over what others think of us. LOL

SmokeDetector

tpu by WELZ

Videonauth

exact

CaffeineAddiction

5:33 PM

anyone from SE notified about that user and his request? I mean thats pretty much the only way I could see that domain name change being forced ... like if pops chimed in on that guys behalf. Doubt he would though.

NVZ

I could eat all the dinner grandma cooked, and she'd still say I didn't eat at all. See? I have no control over her mind. LOL

@CaffeineAddiction Well, is it really anything SE can help with?

I think it's just between Charcoal and said user.

NobodyNada

5:50 PM

o/

Undo

@CaffeineAddiction we don't need to. And if we did, they would back me.

people threaten legal action in mod messages all the time. Usually it's because we stomped on their first amendment rights to post crap on our site

Magisch

@Undo o_o

Andy

plays a small violin

Magisch

TIL stack exchange is the US government

because that's the only way it can violate the 1st amendment

the smallest possible violin

Undo

I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.

7

SmokeDetector

6:07 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How to place multi-page PDF into InDesign by Dr Scripto on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

WELZ

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

6:27 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: apt hidden service wont accept debian keyring by BillCipher on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by Videonauth

tpu- by Makyen on http://allsupplement4u.com/calminax-pl/ [MS]

SmokeDetector

6:52 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How do I install Python 3.6 using apt-get? by Aryal Bibek on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by DJMcMayhem

SmokeDetector

7:07 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: Why not mount airliner jet engines above the wings? by user27965 on aviation.SE

tpu- by DJMcMayhem

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title: Missing ETH when sent from GDAX to stocks.exchang by user27712 on ethereum.SE

fp- by ByteCommander

Andy

7:28 PM

Related to today's discussion: I've posted proposed guidelines on how requesting being removed could work. Please criticize them.

SmokeDetector

7:53 PM

Restart: API quota is 10816.

tpu- by NVZ on What Russell 2000 price action would move TZA on the upside back to its 6000 level? [MS]

Videonauth

can someone explain me what helios is supposed to do regarding the blacklist entries?

SmokeDetector

tpu by Glorfindel on Folder path too long issue in installing Node.js based service [MS]

Andy

8:09 PM

@Videonauth Pulls them out of Github and puts them in a central database. This does the following: 1.) Eliminates the need to build against Travis on each entry 2.) Immediately adds the new pattern without requiring a restart 3.) Quickly gets all other instances of smokey up to date with the newest patterns.

It will also allow us to maintain notifications across instances of smokey

Videonauth

ah ok

Andy

The repository will see a dramatic reduction in commits when Helios integration is done. Instead of new patterns being added constantly, it will only have actual code changes

Videonauth

ok makes sense, just give me a hint before youre pulling the blacklist from the repo :P

Andy

Metasmoke will be updated when Helios is ready to show the blacklist there. We'll still need the ability to add/remove things and that'll be in MS (hopefully...I'm not a rails person).

MS will probably handle the commit to Helios/get approval before commit to Helios step too

Videonauth

:) i actually fed the blacklist to my WP blog

DJMcMayhem

8:14 PM

@Undo Awesome! :) Who all is included in everyone?

Magisch

Today's meltdown makes me want to post running commentary on a personal blog about every item we blacklist

complete with snarky comments :p

Undo

@DJMcMayhem You

Andy

I approve of snarky comments

Undo

(everyone on charcoal-se.org/people as of when Art sent the email)

DJMcMayhem

Cool! I love stickers

Andy

8:15 PM

@Videonauth Oh? Why?

DJMcMayhem

I've gotten SE swag only once before

Undo

@Andy Seems like a good idea, actually. Sounds like he gave our blacklist to WordPress' comment spam filter.

I wonder how much overlap there is there.

Andy

Oooohh. I misunderstood and thought it was just a forked copy

Yes, giving it to their filter makes complete sense

CaffeineAddiction

@Undo any pictures of the stickers are are they hypothetical stickers at this point?

Undo

I have a stack of them

CaffeineAddiction

8:19 PM

pix or it didnt happen

Videonauth

@Andy preventing spammers

Undo

I had pictures somewhere, can't find 'em now

Andy

Undo

there we go

Andy

I have a bunch of each of those

CaffeineAddiction

8:22 PM

ah, SE and SO stickers

Videonauth

@Undo 3 hits in 2 months

CaffeineAddiction

thought they where going to be Smoke Detector stickers

Undo

Now, I don't know what ya'll are getting. They could be sending unicorns. But the maybe-agreed-upon thing is SE stickers.

Mithrandir

@Andy Elected mod swag?

Undo

@Andy is that a vintage one in the top left?

Andy

8:23 PM

And the 10M SO questions

It is

For the SO election I got the square one, and an SE t-shirt. I told them I already had 3 SO ones.

Magisch

I participated in the christmas swag event

so maybe I'll get a tshirt

Andy

I love the SO t-shirts. They are very comfortable

Undo

The grey ones are the best. Black ones are pretty normal, but the grey ones are soft and last forever

Mithrandir

Yeah, I'm hoping for a shirt from the moose thing... appointed mods just get the hat, and even then, we have to know about it and ask for it...

Undo

Huh, they don't throw the swag request form in your face anymore?

Mithrandir

8:27 PM

That's only for elected mods.

Undo

Huh

Andy

@Undo Oh, I don't have a black one. I have three of the grey ones.

Undo

I don't think they have the black ones anymore.

Are there grey SE shirts now?

Andy

I have a white SE one too. It's just your basic white t-shirt though

DJMcMayhem

@Undo I have a gray ELL shirt

Undo

8:29 PM

@Andy yeah, have one of those.

I think I got it a size too big thinking I would grow. That prospect seems increasingly unlikely.

Andy

Awww... pats Undo on the head

Undo

I have plenty of room to grow width-wise, though. Just not up-and-down.

so that's a plus

Mithrandir

@Undo Heh

Videonauth

O.k. I admit I'm a GitHub noob but how to actualize a fork without being actually a commit ahead of master afterwards?

quartata

hmmm?

J F

8:45 PM

@Videonauth In your clone of the fork, git remote add upstream <url>, where <url> is the URL of the original repo, then git pull upstream/master and push.

CaffeineAddiction

@Undo you can always get shorter ... both of my parents are starting to

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Why almost website of banks using javascript? by Saleh Bakhat on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by quartata

Videonauth

@JF shouldn't be the upstream already set when i forked through the GitHub interface?

Jake Symons

How does manually reporting questions work?

quartata

@Videonauth no

the only remote that is set by default is the origin

i.e your fork

Glorfindel

8:47 PM

@Undo me too, I keep forgetting I need to order S shirts from the US if I want a the equivalent of a Europe L.

Jake Symons

@SmokeDetector how do you manually report questions?

Videonauth

@JakeSymons !!/report <URL>

DJMcMayhem

!!/report link

Jake Symons

does that need privs?

DJMcMayhem

I believe so

Jake Symons

8:50 PM

!!/help

SmokeDetector

@JakeSymons I'm SmokeDetector a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

DJMcMayhem

@JakeSymons Yes

Jake Symons

@DJMcMayhem hopefully I'll get them soon :)

This user responded to my advice with "I've taken the tour" but they don't have a badge :)

Videonauth

Ah now i get this :) good good another new thing learned

SmokeDetector

9:33 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: How do I protect myself from friendly-fired spells? by William Sophia on gaming.SE

DJMcMayhem

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Is the tomato a very very close relative of the pepper? by Jason Oshodi on biology.SE

tpu- by DJMcMayhem

ArtOfCode

@Undo final list

DJMcMayhem

@SmokeDetector Could we add a check for something like More than 10 percent of the post is profanity? Surely something like that could be autoflagged

Or more than 10 percent of the words are in the offensive list?

Catija

9:58 PM

Do we even have a list of "profanity"?

Mithrandir

We've got what's in the offensive regex...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Sent GNT (Golem) from Bittrex to my Ethereum wallet on my Nano Ledger by user27733 on ethereum.SE

tpu- by DJMcMayhem

WELZ

sd k

Mithrandir

you can find the offensive regex at github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

DJMcMayhem

if (1000 * len_of_match / len(s)) >= 15: # currently at 1.5%, this can change if it needs to

If I understand correctly, this is saying that a post that has less than 1.5% matching the regex will not be reported?

JoErNanO

10:48 PM

!!/test bosscyber

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

JoErNanO

!!/watch-keyword bosscyber\.com

SmokeDetector

@JoErNanO You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1449 for you.

JoErNanO

For those with 10k rep on travel this is the incriminating post: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/107729/…

Happy new year, Charcoalers.

paper1111

11:03 PM

!!/test alinma.com

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

paper1111

!!/watch alinma\.com

SmokeDetector

@paper1111 Added alinma\.com to watchlist

paper1111

!!/watch alrajhibank\.com\.sa

SmokeDetector

@paper1111 Added alrajhibank\.com\.sa to watchlist

CI on ddcbd15 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev ddcbd15 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of alrajhibank\.com\.sa by paper1111 --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 9070.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Unable to load link in webview by TechyGod on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: Why would a lien appear on a mortgage after 17 years? by Christiaan Avenant on money.SE

tpu- by NobodyNada

JoErNanO

11:14 PM

@SmokeDetector k

paper1111

sd - k f

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What damage does a car suffer if not regularly used? by Nancy on mechanics.SE

tpu- by Mego

JoErNanO

11:32 PM

@SmokeDetector k