The Nineteenth Byte

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:00 PM

ARA

quartata

@orlp Fun Jelly fact of the day: Jelly > Pyth

orlp

@quartata never

you're just jelly of pyth

oooooooooooh

Alex A.

haha

Sick burn, son

ETHproductions

@quartata Fun fact of the day: > Jelly

quartata

@orlp more like jelly of jelly

Alex A.

11:01 PM

FUN JELLY FACT OF THE DAY: Jelly and jam are not the same. The former often includes gelatin while the latter typically uses pectin.

quartata

^

That's also true.

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yeah, I'll remove this sometime soon.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

AND the latter is usually preceded by a C

ETHproductions

^

Alex A.

Not when I eat it

quartata

11:02 PM

That makes Jam superior, technically.

However, rumor has it CJam is made with the tears of orphans instead of pectin.

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Alex A.

s/technically/objectively/

quartata

I think that makes it less edible.

Doorknob

FACT OF THE DAY: these facts do not qualify as fun

SuperJedi224

Hey guys

Alex A.

FACT OF THE DAY: Nor are they facts.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:02 PM

@ETHproductions Okay. Also, do your prototypes have the name property? If so, you could run a readable function that transforms the code.

Alex A.

Except for the jelly one

orlp

OF THE DAY: how are they relevant to any day?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Let's try that again. FUN JOLF FACT OF THE DAY R is the join command. It is used for joining arrays, like in this: conorobrien-foxx.github.io/Jolf/#code=xqZbMSwyLDNdJyw

Alex A.

THE DAY: Tuesday, I think

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Vhat prototypes do you speak of?

orlp

11:03 PM

THE: ok.

Doorknob

:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ETHproductions Like, Array.prototype.q

orlp

: we've achieved minimalism

Doorknob

@orlp ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

: this is not that weird hip chat

orlp

11:04 PM

Underflow error, pre colon array is empty.

Alex A.

@orlp Super ninja'd. He was even more minimalist.

Doorknob

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ETHproductions

: OF THE DAY: :

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

definitely not a rickroll

2

Alex A.

AHH

THAT IS FALSE

ETHproductions

11:05 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Still not sure what you mean...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

String.prototype.h = String.prototype.has = function(x){
		if(arguments.length>1) return this.has(x)&&this.has.apply(this,Array.from(arguments).slice(1));
		return !!(1+this.search(new RegExp(x,"g")));
	}

flawr

@AlexA. What is this.

RikerW

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Okay, that is epic.:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

String.prototype.h.name === "has"

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Fun NanoScript fact: R = 01010010 = divide subtract

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:07 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ This is what I've been linking all along.

Alex A.

@flawr Regex substitution: s/<pattern>/<replacement text>/<options>

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ And what does that do?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ETHproductions I use it to make a more readable code for the user to observe.

RikerW

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How do you do that?

Does the code do that or is it just for fun.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@RikerW Reply button: use it

Doorknob

11:08 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I agree

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠ_ಠ

Ʀ[1,2,3]', !== R[1,2,3]1,

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Hmm...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@RikerW Ʀ redirects the page to jolf.html, which itself is a redirect to that youtube video

@ETHproductions It gets a little tricky if you try to do it afterwords, though, since you don't know the type to which the prototype belongs

Alex A.

TIL Rick Astley has earned a total of $12 USD from the rickrolling phenomenon.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

From where?

ETHproductions

11:11 PM

‮

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ YouTube royalties.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> snoitcudorpHTE

@AlexA. Oh, I see.

> dorp

> snoit

> yb oga s7

11:13 PM

TIL ETHproductions' real name Snoit Dorp.

Doorknob

s/(?<=')/s/

ETHproductions

This is fun ‮This is fun

RikerW

@Doorknob Wat?

Alex A.

Actually not a rickroll

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. o-o

close enough

Alex A.

11:17 PM

Is it though?

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What is it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Idk, it looks like it, but... it isn't.

quartata

i'm scared

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Peter Frampton- Baby I Love Your Way

copy+paste

Alex A.

Shhhh

PhiNotPi

11:18 PM

no rickrolling here

#Fail

^

^

@PhiNotPi My reaction: silent, begins to lull forward as I descend into madness.

@RikerW Delete that shameful message.

Alex A.

@PhiNotPi lol 20 hours of pink floyd

PhiNotPi

11:20 PM

"super deep brown noise"

RikerW

This is a darude roll

undergroundmonorail

almost certainly not a rickroll

RikerW

^

undergroundmonorail

you need the http://

RikerW

This is my final try

YAY!!!

PhiNotPi

11:21 PM

^

RikerW

^

^^^^

^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

PhiNotPi

(mine was a link)

RikerW

lol i know

/s

SuperJedi224

NemesisTheory - Turn of Tides

►

RikerW

Dude, rickroll style pls

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:22 PM

@RikerW ᴡᴀᴛ

RikerW

darude roll is epic. :P

@SuperJedi224 *so a rickroll

Alex A.

@PhiNotPi ?

PhiNotPi

I think I'm just going to link to that carrot video every time someone mentions carrots.

SuperJedi224

set a random.rand()
io.write a.toString 50

RikerW

@PhiNotPi Do it.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:27 PM

watches Darude sandstorm video. Reaction: W.T.A.F.

SuperJedi224

random.rand 1024

One kilobit of precision on a randomly generated float on [0,1)

PhiNotPi

Has anyone ever seen this language?

Refal

Refal (Recursive functions algorithmic language) "is a functional programming language oriented toward symbol manipulation", including "string processing, translation, [and] artificial intelligence". It is one of the oldest members of this family, first conceived in 1966 as a theoretical tool with the first implementation appearing in 1968. Refal was intended to combine mathematical simplicity with practicality for writing large and sophisticated programs. Unlike Lisp, Refal is based on pattern matching. Its pattern matching works in the forward direction rather than backwards (starting from the...

SuperJedi224

Martin Büttner

@PhiNotPi well so much for that... the Juille and Pollack paper was all very clear and understandable, until they threw in some entropy into the fitness function and finished the section with "In practice, the entropy is evaluated by performing some statistics over the population of ICs."

SuperJedi224

I think 80 bits is a good default though

PhiNotPi

11:38 PM

@MartinBüttner I have no clue what they mean by that.

Martin Büttner

"We solved the problem by maths."

feersum

Do the British pronounce the "s" in "maths"?

undergroundmonorail

yeah

feersum

How??!

undergroundmonorail

i'm not british but i watch british mathematicians on youtube

same way you pronounce most s's

feersum

11:40 PM

Is the th hard or soft?

Martin Büttner

@feersum how do you pronounce "months"?

undergroundmonorail

imagine math was a proper noun. now pluralize it. that's how they do it

Martin Büttner

@feersum it's devoiced

flawr

@AlexA. Now your comments make a lot more sense.

Alex A.

haha

SuperJedi224

11:41 PM

Oddly enough, hypercalc estimates that fraction as negative infinity. I'm really not sure how.

A much better estimate is about 0.612

Martin Büttner

@feersum If English still used þ and ð you wouldn't have to ask that question and the language would look so much cooler.

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Alex A.

When were those glyphs used in English?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

old times medieval times

undergroundmonorail

at least 10 years ago

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thorn and eth iirc

@ETHproductions

@ðproductions

Martin Büttner

11:44 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

\o/

Martin Büttner

Old English

Old English (Ænglisc, Anglisc, Englisc) or Anglo-Saxon is the earliest historical form of the English language, spoken in England and southern and eastern Scotland in the early Middle Ages. It was brought to Great Britain by Anglo-Saxon settlers probably in the mid 5th century, and the first Old English literary works date from the mid 7th century. After the Norman Conquest of 1066, English was replaced for a time as the language of the upper classes by Anglo-Norman, a relative of French, and Old English developed into the next historical form of English, known as Middle English. Old Englis...

Alex A.

:O

Martin Büttner

Icelandic still uses them

SuperJedi224

The number of current top games I was in has now dropped to 1

undergroundmonorail

11:46 PM

do you think it's a problem that i carry my raspberry pi in a bag that used to have cookies in it

Martin Büttner

"Yes, English can be weird. It can be understood þrough tough þorough þought, ðough. "

Doorknob

I pronounce "thorough" with the other th

Martin Büttner

oh

good to know

El'endia Starman

.....I think I've been saying them the same. o.O

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ me too O_o

Martin Büttner

11:48 PM

wiktionary says þ (or θ in IPA)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Is that a british thing?

Doorknob

ðat* þing* :P

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I was wondering that too.

Martin Büttner

thorough

Adjective: thorough ‎(comparative more thorough, superlative most thorough)

painstaking and careful not to miss or omit any detail
utter; complete; absolute

Noun: thorough ‎(plural thoroughs)

(Britain, dialect) A furrow between two ridges, to drain off the surface water.
(Can we find and add a quotation of Halliwell to this entry?)...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Is that a british ting?

El'endia Starman

11:49 PM

@Doorknob Yeah, I'm pretty sure I say both "th"s the same.

Martin Büttner

I'm pretty sure you don't

the th in "that" or "this" is voiced, the th in "thing" isn't

SuperJedi224

goodbye for now

quartata

@SuperJedi224 *kibibit

Thomas Kwa

Newly Featured Questions isn't working.

Martin Büttner

@El'endiaStarman @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ if it helps, the difference between ð (this) and þ (thing) is the same as the difference between v/f, b/p, d/t

feersum

11:53 PM

*Kibbles 'n bits

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MartinBüttner this thing doesn't sound that different for us uncultured americans

(speaking for myself, of course.)

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa We know but we don't know why yet

Martin Büttner

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ well, most Germans also think that there's only one way to pronounce each of the 5 vowels in German, when there are actually 2 or 3 different sounds for each of them. but if I said "this" to you with the "th" in "thing" or vice versa, it would definitely sound weird to you.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MartinBüttner OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I GET IT NOW

Like saying "thistle" without the "tle" in "this"

DANKE SO MUCH

Martin Büttner

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ah great example, I was trying to come up with something where the two sounds were used in different words with the same spelling

also "breathing" without "brea"

(I think)

(I might say "breathing" wrong though)

(like I said "thorough" wrong)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:57 PM

that may be the case.

Breathing has a sort of a v sound

As in, "The"

"It goes down"

Martin Büttner

right

then I say it right

so "breathing" without "brea" is different from "thing"

trichoplax

It seems some sites do get input into their new site design:

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Q: Brainstorming Worldbuilding Site Design

I'm Kurtis, and I'll be working on the new design for the graduated Worldbuilding site. As most of you are aware, each site within the Stack Exchange network gets its own unique theme while maintaining some consistency and common elements with the rest of the Stack Exchange family. We're in the ...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yup!

Martin Büttner

cool. I need to remember "thistle" and "breathing" next time I need to convince someone they're saying two different "th" sounds :P

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