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7:04 PM
> I regret joining the gym recently..
> Leaving the EU would have been a more effective way to lose pounds.
that's a knee slapper
@Optimizer Brutal
I claim no rights for that sentence
> This is the rapper 50 Cent. Or, as he's known in the UK, 5000 Pounds.
ok.. thats a long stretch
7:10 PM
Know what else is a long stretch? A giraffe doing yoga.
ummm... so?
That was it. That's all I got.
@TimmyD Bahaha, I'm remembering that one.
Guess what this is:
7:20 PM
@flawr A wallpaper?
@flawr a long exposure plane crash pic?
all three wrong
@flawr windows 11 leaked background
7:20 PM
nope, but at least as cool
a pic?
hint: it is a plot of a mathematical function
May 21 at 21:41, by Downgoat
@MartinBüttner oh god, maths, hides
Looks like one of those series that involves numbers that jump up and down, maybe like totient function?
7:21 PM
it involves the famous triangle?
@FryAmTheEggman 100000 points for @FryAmTheEggman
@Doorknob \o/
Euler totient function for the first billion numbers.
@flawr WHAAAT
@Upgoat About builds #242 and #244, which have failed.
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 ;_;
7:34 PM
@El'endiaStarman Nyan cat waking up at t = 8
y u no understand my owers uv hard werk for bug fix
@flawr Probably the best demonstration of sensitivity to initial conditions that I've seen yet.
what should the syntax be for hasmaps/objects/dicts in CHedar?
@El'endiaStarman I recommend /r/mathpics/
@El'endiaStarman If you like graph theory and numerical anylsis you might like my most recent gif:
@flawr wait, so there were actually a bajillion triple pendulums hidden behind the first one?
7:38 PM
@Maltysen Exactly, all with some slightly different starting points
@flawr What is going on here?
@Maltysen By around t=5 you can start to see the arms thickening slightly
@El'endiaStarman We are looking at the cholesky decomposition process of a matrix that approxmates the laplace operator on a square grid. The top left shows the graph represented by the matrix in the top middle, and the bottom shows the cholesky factor. The idea is choosing a nice elimination order of the nodes, for avoidiong excessive fill in in the cholesky factor.
(see e.g. here)
On the right side you just see the same matrices again but just permuted, such that the nodes are again in lexicographical order.
If anyone knows makefile I started a 50pt bounty on my CR question:
Q: A Makefile to make some Cheese

DowngoatExcuse the pun in the title, the project this is for is called "Cheddar" (a type of cheese). Github I have recently been writing a language, in which I was using grunt. Grunt was very slow for me, and had a lot more problems for me, so I switched my tasks over to makefile. Most of my makefile...

I need a language that begins with X >_<
that's usable for printing a string and has an interpreter not in C >_<
7:49 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ whoose name beings with X?
Have you checked esolangs?
all of them
they are all either trivial BF, have dead interpreters, or are in C.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ why can't it be written in C?
because I am not compiling C. Never again
7:51 PM
why won't you compile C/
It seems you've had a traumatic experience concerning compiling c programs in your early childhood.
*correction: or I can't run it

7:53 PM
the only one that looks promising is XRF
but I have to get python working for it to work
@flawr oo thanks will look into those
now that I look at the image again... its actually putting C in the ancient category.. so that comment is invalid.
Well, COBOL is awful
:D :D :D I doubled cheddar's speed!
idk how to engrish
@Upgoat How?
7:59 PM
I finally got python again
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ;_;
@Bálint By eating it
well im a goat so if i believe hard enoguh i can eat anything at double speed
@Upgoat I don't like it, but I have to get it until the world gets over its collective crush on python'
@flawr If @Upgoat it's a cheddar, he'll get slower
8:00 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ >_> yeah everything has API for python but world also kinda still likes C++
@Upgoat Try to get into game developement with Python
^^ I'm not fluent in it though >_>
Or pretty much in any big programming task
Hai @Dennis
@Bálint hahahaha Python is only good for eating mice
8:02 PM
@Upgoat are you a cow?
no im goat
i thought that was well established by now
wikipedia says capridae is a subgroup of bovinae
@Upgoat You're terrible in goating
Learn to goat
8:03 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ yeah?
@Upgoat is descended from goat which is descended from cow.
So, @Upcow
@Bálint ;_; and your terrible at loading. The loading bar on your avatar doesn't even move >:|
@Upgoat Stackexchange discriminates GIFs
8:04 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ but its truuuuuuuueeeeeeee looooooooooovvvvvvvveeeeeee
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ nice
@Maltysen that's what all people think in an infatuation
@Upgoat At least I know if I need to use you're or your
@Upgoat I hate GIFs
8:05 PM
^ && ^^
They're the second worst thing after vegetable oil cheese
The true discrimination against .gifs is people saying it wrong.
@Upgoat do you pronounce it giff or jif though?
@El'endiaStarman ^
i have no idea
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ jif here
8:06 PM
@Bálint ಠ_ಠ
@Upgoat hard g or soft g (i.e. j)
idk kinda both, probably more on the jiff side
@Maltysen ಠ_ಠ
@Upgoat :D
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ jif
8:06 PM
\o/ \o/ \o/
jif gif is best gif
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ It's pronounced like the peanut butter brand...because that's how the developers meant it to be pronounced.
8:06 PM
@El'endiaStarman YESS EXACTLY
@Upgoat jif or yiff?
@El'endiaStarman the developers were wrong, its graphics interchange format
"Choosy moms choose JIF" -> "Choosy developers choose GIF"
8:07 PM
@flawr why do you always have to turn everything lenny-able
@flawr ygjjaioesunrvodsfuap9vadhfdKJDKbfhcadnchdifuhvsfhba9Y#W&$Y(*@$^if
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ who's lenny?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ flagged as offensive
8:08 PM
@flawr YIFF sound server?
why teh starz
brb googling yiff
@Upgoat do you know what yiff is?
@Upgoat NOOOOO
is nsfw
nvm just urban dictionary'd it
8:08 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ nothing NSFW showed up luckyl
whats a furry?
what should first cheddar program i mkae do
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you googled? RIP Conor O'Brien, 2016-2016
8:09 PM
@Upgoat Nothing
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I already knew about it
Or simply print 42
but why is it here
@Optimizer when you want to yiff a furry animal
@Optimizer done of those huminoid animal things that people obeses over
8:09 PM
Q: Find the Cheese

LiamUpdate: There are 6 mazes. They are included in the controller. There is a tar.gz of the mazes and their .bmp files here (dropbox). There is also a utility for making more mazes at that link (the maze_4.txt file is incorrect in archive). At this point, please feel free to run your own entry and u...

@Upgoat oh.
2 mins ago, by flawr
@Upgoat jif or yiff?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Do WHAT?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ WAI
8:10 PM
yesterday, by Upgoat
@Liam ಠ_ಠ for cheddar pun :P
@flawr bring sexual/nsfw puns/jokes/topics in to this room
Hey, BTW UK guys, what was the outcome of the latest voting about leaving the EU?
I brought nothing in here. ಠ_ಠ
@flawr ಠ_ಠ for perverted jokes. This is family friendly chatroom
@Bálint They're going to leave.
8:11 PM
@flawr That's cool I guess
maybe in future, but currently, market is in chaos
@Bálint Many people do not think so, me included.
@Bálint yeah. because pound price drops so rapidly people cannot afford heater so country will be cooler
jif = peanut butter, gif = image
@flawr Don't take my preference in to account, I'm way not in the position to get a good sight about these things
Maybe this is why Bitcoin increased so rapidly some time ago
8:14 PM
> Britcoin
@Bálint Leave.
@BusinessCat ಠ_ಠ
I find a lot of the meta-data coming out of the Brexit vote fascinating. Like, the "Remain" camp was overwhelmingly younger voters and the "Leave" camp was overwhelmingly older voters. Or, like Doorknob linked, people didn't really know what it was.
@Upgoat repl
If I post a piece of code on code review, and I don't get any comments/answers, only upvotes, then does that mean good?
8:15 PM
@Doorknob yeesh
> Awakening to a stock market plunge and a precipitous decline in the value of the pound that Britain hasn't seen in more than 30 years, voters now face a series of economic shocks that analysts say will only worsen before they improve. The consequences of the leave vote will be felt worldwide, even here in the United States, and some British voters say they now regret casting a ballot in favor of Brexit.
So, they cause a economic crisis
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ the developers are wrong
crisis = disaster
crysis = game
@Maltysen no they aren't
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ its graphics interchange format
8:18 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Instructions unclear. Accidentally left EU.
Will this cause something like the economy crash some years ago (the Wall street crash)?
I'm honestly kind of flabbergasted by the number of "yes" votes on the official Brexit straw poll
I'm guessing they're probably mostly trolls
I gtg, and won't be back until sunday. bye!
8:19 PM
@Bálint It could potentially be problematic, yes
@Bálint I have seen some economist predictions that this could lead to another global recession.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Why won't you be back until Sunday?
@Upgoat The fact, that you're in this chatroom makes it non-family-friendly
8:27 PM
@Bálint ;_; y u so mean
> Be nice.
that was not nice
@Upgoat You answered your question
Huh. I was itching to play some Quake Live but it appears to be missing from my library. Upon further inspection it appears to cost $10 now
When did this happen?
> Do I have to be nice?
> Yes. We expect community members to treat each other with respect … even when they don't deserve it.
8:28 PM
@quartata Can't you just download and compile the source from id directly?
No no, this is Quake Live
I still have my ancient copy of Quake 3 Arena around here somewhere
Damn, looks like they pretty much wiped everything (friends lists, etc.)
On the bright side now you don't have to do the weird premium subscription thing to be able to create lobbies.
That's nice
Wait a second, this is weird. It says on the steam page it's in my library....
Glitch in the Matrix. We're all gonna die.
On a related note, I've been enjoying the crap outta the new Unreal Tournament.
Wait, when did they release it?
I've been following the Github on that for liek 3 years
8:31 PM
It's in "pre-Alpha"
but it's downloadable and playable
Getting a LAN server up is ... dicey
But it is just as gloriously fun as UT99 was
Oh, nice.
what is UT?
@Maltysen Unreal Tournament
@TimmyD Actually never played the original, but I played UT 2004. Loved that
Quake never dies. Quake is life
8:34 PM
OK, phew. I just had to go back to the Quake Live store page and hit "Play Now," then it offered to install it
@quartata \o/
I'm not sure why people were complaining about it costing money now then :P I'm basically getting premium for free
@quartata Oh, it is very different than UT2003 or UT2004.
Is it?
I mean, the concepts are similar, but the vehicles, map styles, etc., of UT2003/4 are not present (at least, yet).
8:36 PM
Ah. I was never a fan of Onslaught anyways so I'm not upset about that
I just liked pure DM or CTF
$ time cheddar <<< "print 'hello'"

real    0m0.180s
user    0m0.164s
sys     0m0.020s
:D such speed
(this is on C9 too)
DM is just a frenetic as UT99 was. Seems faster paced than UT2003/4.
@Upgoat C9 was probably having some issues the last time you timed it I suspect
Seemed unusually slow
yeah, I'll also test locally
and on centos machine
@TimmyD Just saw a screenshot of it and it looks beautiful. I hope my toaster can run it
Holy shit, they completely redid QL. It actually integrates into Steam now.
Heck, it has all my old settings too.
People are crybabies sometimes I swear
Uh-oh, they removed loadouts. Better get ready for crazy-ass RL fights just like in Quake 3
ERMAGHERD Rogue Squadron 3D is on Steam! That was one of my favorite childhood games!
9:07 PM
Ahhh QL is great fun
whoa, there are achievements now
that's cool
@Upgoat y no both option? Like repl.it
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan if u giv me HTML +CSS will do. Else I hav no idea how to do UI fer that
That's pretty nice, actually.
@Fatalize I looked up what you said, and it turns out all I have to do is drive to the DMV and take a test to have the restriction removed. I guess everything I said did make sense after all.
9:13 PM
If you wanted to get real advanced you could add breakpoints to the playground part and make it so that repl commands get executed in the scope of the breakpoint
@quartata good idea ver
@quartata good idea brb copying for cheddar
@quartata absolutely. Replit is one of my all time favorite sites.
Only works in the other room. Haha.
Now we can type [mtg:Card Name] and it gets turned into a link to the Gatherer. And they implemented it like a day or two after we requested it. Devs are awesome!
Helluuuu I am Helka Homba
and welcome to Another adventure in Minecraft version 1.10 for PC
9:35 PM
how do I compile C
but which file do I compile
there's like ten of them
gcc foo.c <...additional source files> -o foo -Wall
-o indicates what the name of the linked executable should be
-Wall means turn on all warnings
If you're compiling C++ use g++ instead
still, which file do I compile?
All of them
What are you trying to compile?
It has a CMake file
Use that
cmake .
it gives me a bunch of errors
Do you even have gcc? lmao
What's your C compiler?
Do which gcc for me
CMAKE_C_COMPILER=/c/msys64/mingw64/bin/gcc cmake .
Try that
9:41 PM
'CMAKE_C_COMPILER' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Are you using batch??? lmao
I'm using an emulator
it has these commands, so I assume it's okay
ok I have no idea how you set env variables in batch
why are you using batch when you can use bash?
SET %var%=stuff
9:42 PM
but set CMAKE_C_COMPILER to your gcc path and CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to your g++ path
then do cmake
@Optimizer because my bash emulator is small and ugly and I'm not getting another one
but windows 10 supports natively
I'm on windows 8.
i think you want the environment var to just be the name of the compiler. it should look for it on the PATH after
same error.
this is why C scars me.
9:44 PM
it sCars you
what did you set
you can C why
I can totally C why.
i don't think this is c's fault
seems like ebkac
9:45 PM
@Poke Fair point I suppose
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You understand this is not a fault of C. This is Windows
@quartata I can't change the fact I'm using windows, so I have to blame the next thing
I think if you do SET %CC%=gcc and ensure gcc is on your PATH it should be fine
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ kek
or you could maybe do the full path to gcc
Well, to be fair you are trying to use utilities designed for Unix on Windows. I'm not sure what you expected
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Try just gcc and g++ instead of the paths
like Poke suggested
or better yet get a linux dual-boot set up
9:47 PM
@quartata that sounds like hell
because you'll hang yourself trying to abuse windows like this
Anyone of you experienced with reviewing code? codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/132979/…
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's very easy.
I won't do it
I like my computer working
@Bálint Only to make it shorter/worse.
9:49 PM
i think polluting the global scope is a code smell for javascript
you should probably be using === rather than == for well written javascript
@Dennis I'll use regpack on it later, but that's not the most important right now
== has its uses
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that it does but for general best practice === is fine
This reminds me… Does anyone else here have trouble doing “serious” code reviews after spending a bunch of time golfing?
If you're a good developer, then you know what variable is currently what
9:50 PM
I think javascript styleguide standards call for single quoted strings
@Lynn I started using golfing techniques in bigger codes
Example: (yourArray[i] || 0)
you should define all javascript vars at the top of a function since there isn't block scope
@Poke I don't care
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Linux (the kernels and the core of it at least) is actually super consistent. Any problems you run into with it are usually your fault
you asked for a code review
9:53 PM
If you've never used anything other than Windows you can't exactly judge Windows to be the best :PP
@Poke The other tips are useful, but I'm ver going to use '-s
preincrement operator is technically more efficient than postincrement for for-loops though the interpreter may optimize
I think V8 optimizes that out
Most everything does
At any rate it's a tiny difference :P
@Poke Yes, but it's more useful for arrays
9:56 PM
i might do more later @Bálint
going home now
@Lynn just out of curiosity what is your avatar from?

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