The Bridge

C. Ross

18:04

2

I'd like to nominate ChrisF. He knows the SE system well, as he's a 10k user on three sites (SO, MSO, and SU). He's participated in both the main site and here on meta. He of course has to accept my nomination ...

Arda Xi

Jeff is going to sort out moderators next week by the way

C. Ross

can't hurt to make suggestions though

Ivo Flipse

nope, I voted up your suggestion

Arda Xi

Of course

alexanderpas

Hope I get in, but i guess not based on votes ;)

Ivo Flipse

18:05

it wasn't myself @Arda, though I must admit, I was disappointed ;-)

Arda Xi

I think Juan is going to win as at least one mod

C. Ross

As well he should

Kevin Y

Definitely; after all, he started the proposal.

marco.ragogna

he got my vote too, is working well

C. Ross

One thing about this

20

A: Moderator nominations

If there will be more than 1 moderator (because I'd really love it to be me if there can be only one, and I'd prefer not to have to battle to the death for the position) I also nominate Grace Note. He's very active on meta and he has very good ideas.

I thought grace was female ...

marco.ragogna

18:08

difficult to say

Ivo Flipse

does it matter?

C. Ross

Juan says "he" is all

alexanderpas

He can be gender-agnostic on the internet, as there are no girls on the internet (Warning: TVtropes)

C. Ross

I'm familiar with the rules

Ivo Flipse

there aren't

Arda Xi

18:10

Don't link to that evil black hole :P

C. Ross

the girls in my TF2 clan don't like it when I bring that up

alexanderpas

I included a warning exactly for that reason ;)

I know, that's why i linked tvtropes

Arda Xi

alexanderpas

off reading the new xkcd!

Arda Xi

what new xkcd?

alexanderpas

18:12

Green Flash

C. Ross

@alexand I meant "there are no girls on the internet" not tvtropes

alexanderpas

first line of tvtropes "An Internet trope that was originally true, then an attitude in general, and finally a meme with only lingering traces left. "

There are, in fact, certain places where women now dominate the community, such as in Fanfiction sites, Soap Opera boards, Facebook, LiveJournal (particularly Livejournal Roleplay) or MySpace. As such, this is mainly a Discredited Trope these days.

C. Ross

Some women even play TF2

Arda Xi

I know girls who do

crazy isn't it

Ivo Flipse

I know enough women who play world of warcraft

alexanderpas

18:24

actually it's not crazy, and secondly, gamer geek girls usually have great personalities!

C. Ross

... I sense great possibility of getting myself in trouble here

Arda Xi

uh oh

alexanderpas

that maintaince image is epic

3

Q: Offline-maintenance page has right image, but wrong logo?

Just got smacked in the face with the offline-for-maintenance page (for only one page look, it wasn't long). The sketchy image looks very much like it's designed for Gaming (and is hilarious), but the logo on the top is for Web Applications (again). Like...

Arda Xi

Very much so

alexanderpas

hmm... how does that feed work?

Arda Xi

18:31

Just enter the feeds location in the edit page for a room

alexanderpas

I mean, when does it decide to respond

C. Ross

and yes, that image is epic

I've got 11 close votes, and I'm not going to be on tonight

anyone got 11 close targets for me?

Arda Xi

Need 500 more rep to tell you that

Downvoter

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/game-recommendations

alexanderpas

2

Q: Planetside 2: In development?

Planetside, by Sony, was a great game. It may even be my favorite game to date. I heard a while back that there was a sequel coming: "PS Next." The last thing I heard about it was from the blog of one of the developers, John Smedley, promising that BFRs wouldn't be in the game. Has there been...

pc upcoming-games planetside-2

Downvoter

18:35

this one

Downvoter

0

Q: Dwarf Fortress Fun

I'm looking for some inspiration. Are there any resources for finding Fun things other people have done/tried and trying to reproduce them myself?

dwarf-fortress

C. Ross

Yeah, I didn't like that one either...

but someone just got to it before me

alexanderpas

3

Q: XBox Reliability: How many XBOX 360 consoles have you gone through?

I've had my XBOX-360 for about 2 years now and have had to send it in to MS once so far for repairs. However, I am far from a daily player and sometimes go weeks without even turning it on. In a quick straw poll with my friends who own this console, I couldn't find a single person who was still ...

xbox-360 hardware consoles

Downvoter

someone voted to close this one, but I think it's ok

Downvoter

2

Q: Chu-Chu Rocket on PC?

Is there a version of the Dreamcast puzzler Chu-Chu Rocket that runs on PC (any operating system)?

pc game-rec chu-chu-rocket port

Downvoter

18:37

the problem was the tag I think

Downvoter

it's becoming like not-programming-related on SO a year ago

C. Ross

"Clone" is ok? "Game like" is not?

I guess it's not as subjective

Downvoter

I think it's asking for something specific

Arda Xi

"Game like X because it can't be played on Y" seems fine to me

Downvoter

I think he meant a port

C. Ross

18:39

fair enough, but I already voted

This one seems pretty bad

alexanderpas

Stackoverflow equivalent: Is there a PDF libary for perl similar to FPDF for PHP

C. Ross

6

Q: Approachable and fun PC game development environments for kids?

I am looking for recommendations of what worked - my son (7y.o.) is interested in games (like, obviously), and I would like to direct his attention in a more creative activity - so I give him every opportunity to make his own games. So far he tried Sploder (too simple, though still okay) and Kod...

pc game-rec game-development

completely off topic

Arda Xi

That's what game development is for

C. Ross

yeah

alexanderpas

certainly off-topic!

Downvoter

18:41

nice question but yes, off topic

C. Ross

I've got three left ... I guess I'll save them in case something egregious pops up

alexanderpas

I'm out already... sad panda!

C. Ross

definitely need those Moderator machine gun votes

Arda Xi

I got two I think

Gimme a closing minigun

alexanderpas

a hammer is good too!

C. Ross

18:44

> Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe…[sniffs] maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.

Downvoter

did you vote on this?

Downvoter

11

Q: We need more close votes

Now that we're trying to course correct the site to Q&A, we need to close many subjective and offtopic questions, which makes the 12 close votes not enough. Could we have more until we have moderators at least? It can be done for > 1K rep users only, and I'd be ok for it to be temporary (ag...

feature-request status-completed close-votes limits

C. Ross

yeah, upvoted it

Arda Xi

You mean >one who can outsmart closevote.

alexanderpas

you can outsmart closevotes, with reopen votes.

Back to three tabs again, Gaming, Meta Gaming and Chat, just closed 20 others

Arda Xi

18:48

I got a feed notifier, much easier

much quicker too

alexanderpas

2

Q: What are some iPhone games to entertain young children?

What are some iPhone games that would be appropriate from kids between 2 and 5? +++ bonus parent points if both fun and educational +++

game-rec iphone children

wait... kids between 2 and 5, with a $200+ electronic device????

Ivo Flipse

if it's your iphone 2g

alexanderpas

huh.. i posted in reversed order :D

they should be playing with LEGO (DUPLO) bricks

Arda Xi

6

Q: Any games like Torchlight with WASD movement?

I really like WASD movement but dislike click to move. Is there any game out there where its WASD to move your character but using the mouse to aim/interact? I am not talking about third-person-shooters or hybird first-person-shoots. I am looking for an action rpg. Sort of like League of Lege...

torchlight third-person-view action-rpg keyboard-controls

Why would anyone want a tag like [wasd]?

Downvoter

sigh... difficult site this one...

Downvoter

18:52

I fear for this baby

Downvoter

@Ivo, web apps has an easier crowd?

alexanderpas

tags fixed.

Ivo Flipse

it depends on how much of a purist you are

I actually didn't like the direction the proposal seemed to be going on area51

and I suck at asking questions myself, because I waste more time looking for answers myself than spending it on trying to ask it

alexanderpas

sigh...

1

Q: Where can I find Air Traffic Simulation games?

Does anyone know where I can locate games of this rare genre?

game-rec air-traffic-simulation

Downvoter

is there a meta post discussing list of x?

Downvoter

18:57

on meta gaming

Downvoter

no, right?

Ivo Flipse

most likely not

Arda Xi

Jeff made one

Ivo Flipse

we simply need mods that can just boom-headshot these

alexanderpas

2

Q: Best/favourite/subjective list type questions

I completely agree with the close on: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/1592/what-is-the-best-gaming-mouse-closed but I think that it's a good topic to have on this site in some form. There is a number of these "list a thing" type questions on SO ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2713...

discussion subjective

Downvoter

18:58

I'll create one on meta.gaming linking to the one on meta.so

Downvoter

ah

Downvoter

cool

alexanderpas

I knew there was one ;)

Downvoter

I added a comment to that question

C. Ross

This chat is really useful. We should start a private chat for people with close votes for this purpose.

alexanderpas

19:02

Cabal!

Ivo Flipse

haha, they call it the moderator channel ;-)

alexanderpas

chat is great for moderators!

and that is a great question!

Ivo Flipse

the funny thing is that the reasons for closing are often also soooo subjective

C. Ross

indeed, down to how you understand a word

Arda Xi

we can't close close votes

C. Ross

19:05

that's why we have reopen :-)

Arda Xi

True

alexanderpas

this question is closed and reopened:

2

Q: If I play Fallout 3 via Steam, will I still be able to obtain Live achievements?

Since Steam usually has it's own achievements system and there is no mention of it on the page of the game, is it still possible to obtain Live achievements, or are they not availble in the steam version? If you still can get them, how do you enable it to get them?

steam achievements fallout-3 games-for-windows-live

C. Ross

... that seems like a legit question to me

Arda Xi

I accidentally voted to close that anyone, shows how much peer pressure works on those votes

someone sees one vote they will usually vote just because of that one vote

C. Ross

yeah

Ivo Flipse

19:07

I meant some of the meta discussions: lists are off, but recognize the game are on. class guides are off, but other character topics are on

C. Ross

hmmm, what do you think about

0

Q: What is a good general avatar build for Tropico 3?

What is a good build for most situations in Tropico 3? I don't want to tweak my avatar for every map.

tropico-3 avatar avatar-build

Is that too subjective?

Ivo Flipse

don't know the game, so can't really judge it

alexanderpas

for as far as i know the game, it seems a valid question, but poorly worded, however, i've not played the game.

another tag to watch closely: legal

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/legal

1

Q: Is "Paper Mario" really freeware on PC?

Possible Duplicates: Are emulators of modern gaming consoles legal? How do you know whether a game is in the Public Domain? Is the old Nintendo 64 classic RPG "Paper Mario" really available as legally allowed, free download (for N64 emulator on PC) as is claimed by several sites thro...

pc mario legal nintendo-64 paper-mario

should be closed as duplicate of:

8

Q: How do you know whether a game is in the Public Domain?

There's a lot of games out there whose original creators have long gone out of business. How (if at all) do these enter the Public Domain, and how can you tell? Are there other kinds of abandon ware?

legal faq

Arda Xi

I knew it had purpose!

alexanderpas

and this one can probaly closed too:

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/777/…

Ivo Flipse

19:22

yup

C. Ross

Or deleted

which I just did

alexanderpas

:D

C. Ross

a beta site needs a little boundary testing right?

alexanderpas

yup, and cleanup afterwards!

Ivo Flipse

hehe brave soul!

marco.ragogna

19:24

about deleted questions, is there some sort of notifications to the question author?

alexanderpas

he is the question author ;)

marco.ragogna

ah lol. Too hot here in my room!

marco.ragogna

:D

C. Ross

shame that game costs $50 bucks even now on Amazon ...

alexanderpas

battle-city question is actually good!

marco.ragogna

19:32

I go play TF2 see u later ;)

alexanderpas

I'm playing the stackexchange game.

I'm in the top10 on the gaming level.

C. Ross

ha!

Arda Xi

I hold the high score ;-)

I'm actually playing Typing of the Dead right now

C. Ross

lol

is modding on topic?

Arda Xi

yep

Jeff said himself we're allowing it if it's legal

alexanderpas

19:40

modding is on topic, but don't be stupid, and burn your fingers.

C. Ross

hard to do that with software, thankfully

otherwise I would have killed myself

radp

afternoon

alexanderpas

easy to do when you recieved notice that you're banned from xbox live because of a modded console, and you were just preparing food ;)

radp

I take it my post in meta was downvoted into oblivion and further?

alexanderpas

which one?

Ivo Flipse

19:47

modding your old Xbox isn't too hard now is it?

radp

ooh, now with feed

leaves other channel

Ricket

yea the feed feature is pretty awesome! i'm really liking this as something I can just throw on my second monitor and glance at every few minutes...

C. Ross

and as we discussed earlier, it's bloody brilliant for a mod channel

Ivo Flipse

you never had a feed monitor for SO before?

alexanderpas

yeah... "hey, here's another off-topic post"

radp

19:52

The signal to noise amount in the SO feed would make for an horrible read

Ricket

@alexanderp Well say something to bring it on topic? No point in keeping up silence just cause stuff isn't on topic, right?

radp

sure, if you're a mod you have to read all the questions anyway

Ivo Flipse

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Q: Trilogy Addicts - Get "real-time" notifications of new questions.

Disclaimer: This is an application that I developed, but I got permission to post this by asking [email protected] first. Feed Notifier is a Windows application that resides in the system tray and displays pop-up notifications on your desktop when new items arrive in your subscribed RSS or ...

discussion so-family notifications rss tools

radp

if you're a common user you're just asking for those questions you can answer.

Ivo Flipse

well you can use this one to do exactly what this feed is doing

Ricket

19:53

badp: there are feeds on individual tags though, I keep several of them in my reader

random

Feedsbot is good for shutting down questions from chatters who are levelled-up.

Ivo Flipse

@badp I don't have to do anything ;-) but I do keep track of question when I'm awake

radp

that's because you're an awesome mod ;P

or at least you enjoy it

Ivo Flipse

no that would be @random ;-)

but if you leave a flag or vote to close @badp, I will check the post

random

No, @random only goes about closing questions. That's the entire function.

Ivo Flipse

19:56

you seem to close questions @random

radp

If you ever go below quota, @random, I can make up new questions for you to close!

random

Over on SU, if doing a search for a dupe points out some other older questions that could do with closing, they're done for.

Ivo Flipse

though because I was checking out @badp's profile on SU, I found this clearly too localized question

8

A: What do you expect from Google Chrome OS?

You boot the machine, Chrome comes up. You close Chrome, the machine comes down. Default web page is some sort of iGoogle with some special gadget to "administer" the computer (setup connectivity and whatnot). GMail, Reader, Wave, Calendar are all one click away (from the start page), all have ...

radp

That's an answer, in my defense

not a question

Ivo Flipse

oh right, that was just to tease you

radp

20:00

why, thank you

well if you do have mod powahs on SO you will find one from me that was closed and deleted!

should've checked there first. :P

Ivo Flipse

I don't have mod powahs on SO

radp

aww.

Ivo Flipse

though I rarely visit SO either

but if I could, I should

alexanderpas

he's a measly user on SO </sarcasm>

Ivo Flipse

yup 61 rep

and my Meta account is also crap

alexanderpas

20:04

not to mention serverfault ;)

Ivo Flipse

uhm what?

alexanderpas

8 rep :D

Ivo Flipse

:O

oh right that sharepoint question got migrated

alexanderpas

Ivo Flipse, Groesbeek, the Netherlands

108 4

email

Ivo Flipse

let's name and shame then

Ivo Flipse, Geel, Belgium

908 1 4 10

python wpf .net numpy specifications joeltest winforms

too be honest, my super user rep isn't going anywhere either

radp

20:06

talking about reputation?

Jon Skeet, Reading, UK

233k 44 853 1759

c# .net java linq generics asp.net multithreading

alexanderpas

my worst is stackapps...

radp

</obligatory>

Ivo Flipse

he even has more rep without the k...

alexanderpas

alexanderpas, Netherlands

101 2

Ivo Flipse

the truth is painful

radp

20:07

just think about the sheer amount of times Jon Skeet had to dismiss the top bar announcing YET ANOTHER BRONZE BADGE

can't you feel the pain?

C. Ross

If I compared myself to Jon Skeet, I'd be a sad little man

oh wait ...

alexanderpas

hmm.... you have 15 new badges.... something like that?

random

He probably leaves it on so it just stays there and changes the count

C. Ross

C. Ross, USA

4.9k 2 11 28

c# .net java .net-2.0 language-agnostic multithreading asp.net

Ivo Flipse

my most viewed question is closed as a dupe... how pathetic

random

20:10

Which one again?

Ivo Flipse

3

Q: Is it bad to put your computer in sleep mode every time?

Possible Duplicate: What is the effect of always sleeping a laptop? Is it bad for batteries or something else? Often I have a lot of stuff open and don't feel like shutting down my laptop, so I just use sleep mode when I'm transferring it. But I have no idea if this might have any disadv...

windows laptop sleep

it's even your fault @random ;-)

dupe of this one: superuser.com/questions/428/…

radp

you know, @Ivo, linking to it actually makes it worse...

Ivo Flipse

though I should be discussing this in the SU channel probably :P

random

This is all rather off-topic.

C. Ross

... can you close the discussion?

Ivo Flipse

20:12

/slap myself

I'll just go to bed

that solves it

radp

*casts close vote

guys, this channel has been closed by random, ivo, ross, badp because it is offtopic

please move along

alexanderpas

three hours left before i have my close vote...

and btw, you need 5 votes, not 4

radp

was pretty sure 4 were enough during private beta

C. Ross

so back on Gaming ...

radp

anyway, I just got my close votes back \o/

with my steam "advertisement"

alexanderpas

20:15

???

C. Ross

I second the ???

radp

(somebody here complained because this answer readed like an advertisement -- answer as it reads currently)

C. Ross

I really liked that

actually

alexanderpas

ah, that answer!

discuss:

1

Q: [the-elder-scrolls] vs [elder-scrolls]

Shall we include articles or not? 1x http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/the-elder-scrolls 5x http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/elder-scrolls

support tagging

C. Ross

I have one close vote left ... someone pick me a good target

radp

20:18

well, doesn't SO have automated mechanisms that do mass merging of tags like [subversion] and [svn]?

alexanderpas

@badp you mean something like moderator tools

Macha

And I'm back, but don't expect me to be too active, I'm starting Dwarf fortress.

And I support [the-elder-scrolls], as you may have guessed

C. Ross

Welcome to the <del>cult</del> club

... how do I do strikethrough?

radp

@alex not sure, I though they were simply implemented as a batch script or something.

alexanderpas

radp

20:20

@c. ross: "Welcome to the cult--- err, club"

alexanderpas

not like that

not like that either...

C. Ross

...

radp

C. Ross

.... I'd go to the meta page on formatting, but it kills FireFox

alexanderpas

invalid nesting :D

radp

20:22

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/3122/formatting-sandbox/…

:(

Macha

HTML isn't allowed here, but it's <del> on the SE sites

radp

<s> also works, @macha

C. Ross

anyway, you get the idea

radp

anyway

please upvote this one

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/3122/formatting-sandbox/…

much better than the other one if you ask me :D

C. Ross

This question needs to go

5

Q: Free Quality Online Games For Kids/Teens

My kids love to play games online-what are some good online games that are free, safe, and fun?

game-rec online

spent my last close on it

Ivo Flipse

20:25

gameover.com
displays a maintaince page for over 2 years according to the Internet Archive, so it might be buyable (creds to Ivo Flipse)

finally found what was bugging me

Macha

Ah! The ASCII! It burns :P

radp

lol, that gaming question one has a very ironic comment

Ivo Flipse

where did I comment this @alexanderpas?

radp

Alright, let's get you a toughball

alexanderpas

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/chats/transcripts/46?offset=120

> strange I thought I suggested to have a look at gameover.com as a domain name

Ivo Flipse

20:30

yeah, but I thought I also posted it as an answer, how strange

Well I like it, so you've got my upvote!

see you tomorrow, with new close votes at hand!

Macha

20:42

Ok, DF people: Does everywhere with a river have the aquifier warning?

alexanderpas

No.

radp

No idea, @Macha, but even places without a river have an aquifier warning :/

weird, @alex, I also had this problem

alexanderpas

just use the find function

radp

tried that, @alex

alexanderpas

(altrough sometimes it does happen on smaller worlds

radp

20:43

and I always get the aquifier warning

the wiki suggested to start near a river to have "endless power", then the game warned me about the aquifier :/

Macha

Yeah, same here.

alexanderpas

regenerating the world is an option.

The best place to start by is a brook.

radp

then I placed the fort somewhere random, had no idea to what to do since the quickstart guide for the old version starts midway

and gave up and played Prey instead.

alexanderpas

BTW: it would be a good question for the site!

so go posting it!

Macha

Asking now

radp

20:46

why does crawl need so much time to build :/

somehow they managed to craft the make file in a way that it builds the whole shebang always anyway :(

well, I guess lines like CXX ouch.o are compliation steps right? (why aren't backticks working?)

alexanderpas

do they work here?

radp

yes

Macha

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2270/are-rivers-and-aquifers-guaranteed-to-come-together-in-dwarf-fortress

Posted

alexanderpas

because you missed the space behind the closing backtick

radp

upvoted

thanks @alex

LINK crawl

\o/

goes die horribly

You miss the gnoll.
The gnoll hits you with a flail.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The gnoll misses you.
The gnoll hits you with a spear!
You die...
--more--

f - a potion of heal wounds {unknown} (30 gold)

\o/

Sathya

20:59

nice @badp

radp

Troll berserkers are awesome, but make a wrong call with actually going berserker and it's instant gg

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