The Bridge

Downvoter

00:01

[status-hello]

radp

oh, look, italic.

Grace Note

Evenin', @Juan

alexanderpas

[feature-request]

doesn't work...

Grace Note

Only works with [status-*]

Downvoter

we had the first post complaining about the closes a while ago...

Downvoter

00:03

-1

Q: Overzealous Admins

I feel that the admins are being too overzealous in closing questions for being "Subjective" or "too localized" at the slightest hint of subjectivity or locality playing a role. Here's some recent examples of what I mean: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2120/what-is-the-best-selling-g...

Grace Note

I have 908 ♪

radp

we have a moderator! :P

Grace Note

Yeah, it came shortly after gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2266/… was closed

We do?

Downvoter

Jeff?

radp

just sort people by secret meta rep and give em the diamond :P

alexanderpas

00:06

Jeff doesn't count... He's has coding-powers

Downvoter

I don't think you can sort by meta-rep

Downvoter

:)

alexanderpas

Jeff can ;)

Grace Note

Before someone brought up that reputation graphs made no sense on the Meta, you could at least compare with that

radp

btw meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/reputation

alexanderpas

00:08

329 rep here...

Grace Note

That's only going to tell you your own

radp

are you going to, ohh, cheat?!!?

in a multiplayer game!?!?

:o :o :o :o :O

Grace Note

Oh, hey, I got 10 more rep. Somewhere.

alexanderpas

multiplayer cheat == bad karma

Grace Note

And on the parent site I sit with a measly ~300

radp

00:10

@Grace your latest rep change is the fifth to last line in that response

alexanderpas

nice, gained 208 rep yesterday on gaming.

radp

64

A: How do I audit my reputation?

Make sure you are logged in, and visit: http://sitename.com/reputation For example: http://stackoverflow.com/reputation http://cooking.stackexchange.com/reputation http://serverfault.com/reputation http://gaming.stackexchange.com/reputation http://superuser.com/reputation http://meta.stac...

Grace Note

I know games with excellent question potential. I even know people who would have asked the questions. The problem is I already answered for them before this place existed

Downvoter

I like the new rep system

Downvoter

jeff said serverfault and superuser will be like that too

radp

00:11

I still think it's unfair we don't get to create our own memes and profit from them!

Downvoter

but meta.so will keep it like it is now

Grace Note

I know how to audit my reputation. But it doesn't make me any less lazy to check which post 426 is

radp

getting rep for free handed circles, waffles, castles of <kbd> and other assorted awesomeness.

Downvoter

good times @badp

radp

meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/posts/426/revisions

Grace Note

00:12

Questions would've done it, actually

alexanderpas

70 rep post: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/316/…

Grace Note

Even if it's an answer

alexanderpas

7

A: Images for controller buttons and keyboard keys

combining the <kbd> tag with unicode and html entities can give some great results. Directional arrows: ↑ <kbd>↑</kbd> ↓ <kbd>↓</kbd> ← <kbd>←</kbd> → <kbd>→</kbd> Basic Buttons + An...

Grace Note

Example: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/426

Out of curiosity, what's everyone's specialty in gaming, here?

Kevin Y

iPhone gaming. >.>

radp

00:15

failing at FPS, roguelikes, space sim-RTS combos

Arda Xi

FPS mostly, but I've done most anything related to PCs

alexanderpas

Wii & PC gaming

Downvoter

fps and rts

Kevin Y

Could've got quite a bit of rep . . .

24

A: Which tag? 'nintendo-wii' or 'wii'?

I tagged my question as wii because nintendo-wii seems a little redundant to me. I know some people refer to the console as the "Nintendo Wii", but I just call it the Wii. microsoft-xbox360? sony-ps3?

Downvoter

some rpg like mass effect

Downvoter

00:16

love the stories on that ones

Grace Note

I feel like an odd sheep. Arcade scrolling shooters and platform action games here

Console more often but I enjoy a lot of indie games

Downvoter

*those

Arda Xi

too young for most arcade games I think

Downvoter

too many good games

Downvoter

if they left me half an hour for myself...

Downvoter

00:17

but no

Downvoter

good game after good game

Grace Note

Heh

Downvoter

bastards

Grace Note

Huh, I guess I'm not the youngest. I always feel like it when I'm browsing around on Meta SO

Arda Xi

15 here, you gonna beat that? :P

Kevin Y

00:18

Nearly 14. Pwnt. :D

Grace Note

Yeah, I'm... 22

Downvoter

wow

Arda Xi

I'd expected a different audience for this website, I guess not for a beta

radp

← 21

alexanderpas

Too young to have played arcade games in their full glory... sigh... whenever I get the chance to play pac-man on an original cabinet... I'll be playing for the whole day.

24 here

Arda Xi

00:20

I guess that occasionally playing arcade games is quite a victory at my age then :)

alexanderpas

only when you have your own cabinet ;)

Arda Xi

sadly, no

then again, I wouldn't have the money or the space

Grace Note

Well, I haven't actually played in an arcade in years. But the majority of the games I play either originally were on an arcade, or are the same style

radp

555 meta rep, 111 to go

Grace Note

I have a screenshot of hitting 7777 rep on Meta SO

alexanderpas

00:22

Lucky you.

Arda Xi

it's good to have priorities in life :P

alexanderpas

tell me about it... Shame... Guilty!

Grace Note

But it's at the office. Boo.

alexanderpas

tagging challenge:

4

Q: Misadventures of P.B Winterbottom leaderboards

The Misadventures of P.B Winterbottom is absolutely brilliant (if maybe a little short). Anyway, now that I've finished it, I'm in the process of going through the bonus shorts (levels), and am somewhat curious as to how some people could have possibly posted the leader board times that they have...

steam pb-winterbottom leaderboard

radp

oh wow

Arda Xi

00:25

Why I don't have an xbox :)

radp

That's a really awesome offline screen!

Arda Xi

Keyboard has way more functions

Grace Note

Oh, hey, we finally get a Fighting Game question, and it's one I can't answer. My luck is abysmal.

radp

what games are those?

Grace Note

What are fighting games, or what are ones that I can answer?

@alex I'd suggest [p.b-winterbottom]

Or some variant. Just ignore the Misadventures part. We can't do much better for now, while our tag limit is so short

We really do need a larger tag limit. Even if we'll never field a game like MMT.

radp

00:31

Engage Super Pause!

Grace Note

You realize, @badp, that the second one is a link to a Penny Arcade strip

radp

not at all

had I realized, I wouldn't have asked.

the question is legit, I'm sorry. :(

Kevin Y

Yeah, here's the second one.

penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/06/08

Grace Note

penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/6/8

No worries, @badp

alexanderpas

now the keyboard...

Kevin Y

00:34

got it.

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2301/…

Grace Note

You should link the PA strip in your answer

Kevin Y

I just added it. :)

radp

In 7 mins I'll get to click the checkmark :)

thanks

Grace Note

Nice research work, @Kevin

Kevin Y

Just frantic Googling. :P

radp

00:37

although

jzy should've done Nethack, three keyboards wouldn't have covered everything :D

Arda Xi

Could do an SO one too, use Vim

alexanderpas

SETA time compression and Vectron-7 were the giveaways

Kevin Y

yeah.

radp

well

I'm glad at least it's not a game I would have to give my geek card up for not recognising :D

alexanderpas

should've read penny arcade...

Downvoter

00:42

I voted to close to move to meta

alexanderpas

sigh...

radp

I noticed somebody did, @Juan, but I don't really agree...

Arda Xi

I figured the same thing, it looks like it belongs on meta

alexanderpas

lol

Arda Xi

it's a discussion of the site itself

radp

00:43

I mean, there are 15 identify-this-game questions on the main site and 0 identify-this-game questions on meta

Kevin Y

Technically the question is identifying a game.

It just so happens the game controls are linked to the website.

radp

just because the data given for identification is provided by the site itself, it doesn't mean it's not about identifying games.

alexanderpas

X2 is a game.

Grace Note

I dunno, it's not unlike questions about the SO 404 page

Arda Xi

Well, just because a question is about programming-related cartoons doesn't mean it should be on regular SO

Grace Note

00:44

We get them on Meta SO, despite the fact it's a polyglot

radp

well

Grace Note

Because, ultimately, it's a question about where the image is from

Downvoter

If SO is a guideline, that question would belong on meta...

radp

SO doesn't have identify-this-language questions

Downvoter

but well, it's only my opinion

Downvoter

00:45

that's why it's a vote

Arda Xi

exactly, you're not mod.. yet ;-)

radp

I know Juan

but we have a chat to expand on these topics right?

Arda Xi

would you debate that it's related to the site itself then?

alexanderpas

we have... for now...

radp

I don't think it is. The site could change images, but the question would remain vaild.

Grace Note

00:46

Actually, yes, badp, we do have "identify this language" questions

Arda Xi

we will tomorrow too

radp

(The links however may break; if that's a problem I'll self-host)

Arda Xi

that's not what I'm saying, I'm just saying it's related to the site

Grace Note

Some people might know a construct or a method they've seen somewhere, and became questions on what language the construct is from

Arda Xi

hosting images on sstatic seems efficient to me

Downvoter

00:47

If I were a mod, I wouldn't have voted, I would have left a comment with my opinion

Downvoter

I would try not to abuse my powers ;)

Arda Xi

that's the problem with moderating on this platform I think, you can't have a 1/5th vote anymore

radp

just wait for 4 close votes :P

Kevin Y

heh, I was just going to suggest that. :P

Grace Note

Most current mods do

Arda Xi

00:48

can't start it though :P

Grace Note

They usually leave a comment

Arda Xi

I know

but it would be nice to have a regular vote

radp

Still I feel uncomfortable

I'm asking FAR too many questions

Arda Xi

hey, I'm asking far too little

radp

on SO I have 92 answers and 4 questions :/

and I think that's far awesomer than 11 answers and 12 questions.

Arda Xi

00:51

where is my rep on the chat even coming from anyway?

radp

meta.stackoverflow.com

Arda Xi

oh right

alexanderpas

@badp you're around 1:1 Q/A ratio on gaming, which is still pretty good

Arda Xi

only SE rep carries over of course

hmm, there should be a way to combine the SE API and the feeds to make a notifier that shows you what changed, not just that something changed..

alexanderpas

stackapps time?

Arda Xi

00:53

might try tomorrow, have nothing better to do anyway

Grace Note

I don't think asking a lot of questions is a bad thing, @badp

Arda Xi

for now though I think I'm gonna sleep for a little while :)

have fun closing

Grace Note

Someone has to ask questions, after all

Arda Xi

and stuff

Grace Note

G'nite, @Arda

radp

00:55

Yeah, but I'd rather help than be helped if you get what I mean :)

just, the site needs content to snowball to the point I can just focus on answering

Arda Xi

(I love the way people repeat what's said in the chat on comments just to show other people what's going on :)

radp

actually I think that's a shortcoming of chat

alexanderpas

this chat is fully logged.

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/chats/transcripts/46?offset=120

radp

I knows.

But there isn't a easy way to bring the main points of discussion back into the question page.

Downvoter

we have 20 votes now

Downvoter

00:57

yay

Downvoter

they listen!

Grace Note

Oh, you have 20 votes now? Awesome

radp

I has 19

Grace Note

The logo on the breakdown page is also fixed

radp

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2301/…

2 more reqd here

(Sorry, @Kevin)

Kevin Y

01:00

Lol. No worries. :)

Downvoter

you have 19 because you used one :)

radp

Entirely my point, Juan :)

Downvoter

I'm so gonna miss this chat... so useful

alexanderpas

only needs one vote now.

Kevin Y

I closed it.

radp

01:01

it's gone already

migrated to meta.gaming.stackexchange.com by Juan Manuel, Arda Xi, badp, alexanderpas, Kevin Y 4 secs ago

Grace Note

Our first migration

radp

rly?

Grace Note

I believe so

Downvoter

we're growing up

Kevin Y

:)

Downvoter

01:02

I'm going to miss the site when it doesn't graduate

radp

do I win something?

Downvoter

yes, a better gaming q&a site!

radp

wee

oh boy

3am

maybe it's time to logoff.

Kevin Y

Lol. Maybe. :P

alexanderpas

same time here...

radp

01:06

-- 2010-07-15 rep +195 = 577

Yay! I keep my streak of un-rep-capping across the whole shebang!

(barely)

Grace Note

Still impressive

radp

my best ever day on SO is

-- 2010-02-19 rep +139 = 1023

:/

Kevin Y

Where do you go to check how much rep you've gotten per day?

Downvoter

gaming.stackexchange.com/reputation

Downvoter

click it

Kevin Y

01:10

Thanks. :)

alexanderpas

I'm already in bed, using my laptop, similar to this:

radp

so has this site made it to the likes of kotaku and co yet?

Kevin Y

I don't think so. :|

radp

well, before poking them we should pick a name anyway

alexanderpas

slashdot would be scary!

radp

01:13

[gnaa] ×20

[status-banhammer-readied]

Kevin Y

Aww, my first downvote on Gaming. ):

8

A: Good gaming machine for Starcraft II?

Blizzard recommends that a PC should run Vista or Windows 7 and have: Dual Core 2.4Ghz Processor 2 GB RAM 512 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GTX or ATI Radeon® HD 3870 or better For Macs, it's recommended that you have: Intel® Core 2 Duo processor 4 GB system RAM NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600M GT or ATI ...

alexanderpas

wow... we're beating webapps in views/day already!

radp

unsurprising...

Downvoter

we should beat it in quality

alexanderpas

we're about 5% behind, 88% vs. 93%

Downvoter

01:27

what do you think of my comment here:

Downvoter

-1

Q: Overzealous Admins

I feel that the admins are being too overzealous in closing questions for being "Subjective" or "too localized" at the slightest hint of subjectivity or locality playing a role. Here's some recent examples of what I mean: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2120/what-is-the-best-selling-g...

discussion closed-questions

Downvoter

?

radp

Your avatar is an unicorn

Grace Note

I agree with it. The fact is, we aren't attracting a large volume of questions that are real questions

radp

and yes, →AFAIK← SU is going through lots of pain to get the on-topic off-topic stuff right

Downvoter

01:28

lol @badp

Grace Note

Before we are a gaming community, we are a gaming Q&A

3

radp

better be consistent from the start, instead of having people say "why they can and I can't!"

random

On SU those kinds of arguments leads to the older questions also being closed or even locked. @badp

Downvoter

close candidate

Downvoter

5

Q: Creepy/horror FPS recommendations

I'm playing through Metro 2033 at the moment, and simply loving it. It's so creepy and atmospheric. Can folks recommend another creepy/horror FPS that is coming soon or recently released...?

game-rec first-person-shooter

random

01:31

@juan Your comment on the topic of Gaming is right, if we leave them a little room now for discussion, it's not going to be around in a couple of months to even tidy up

radp

no bullet hell videos on TASVideos? :\

Grace Note

You don't speedrun bullet hell games, badp

alexanderpas

@juan i say borderline... but no vore from me

radp

yeah, but some bullet hell videos are just as impressive as TASes

Grace Note

But they won't be on TASVideos

cowgod

01:32

ooh, chat!

cowgod

fancy

radp

►

Downvoter

hi @cowgod

Grace Note

I'm sure I've got some good replays somewhere on my machine...

Evenin', @cowgod ♪

cowgod

howdy all. who's the person that administers the site? i'm still bummed that we don't have our tagging rules ironed out. i really think it needs to allow for longer tags

alexanderpas

01:33

Crap: a Bullet Hell TVtrope

Grace Note

Jeff Atwood, tehcnically. He's not around right now, I don't think

radp

bah, there was a better video than that

Downvoter

you can post that as a feature-request on meta

Downvoter

Jeff will see it and respond to it

random

How long a tag do you need? @cowgod

cowgod

01:34

i did already but nobody seemed to be behind my idea of tagging like math overflow

Grace Note

I can dodge that

Downvoter

(if it's a request for all sites, direct it to meta.stackoverflow.com)

cowgod

i think we have a unique situation that merits longer tags

cowgod

not SE wide

radp

►

better video

Grace Note

01:36

I love playing Cave shooters ♪

cowgod

here's an example tag that's too long for the current limit: nsmbw.new-super-mario-bros-wii

radp

what use are six such guns when the boss bar goes down soooo slowly

Downvoter

you can separate that in multiple tags

cowgod

i think the abbreviation and the game name need to be the same tag

radp

to be honest

re: Q&A

all the chit chat and non-objective questions can have a home

right here on chat

I asked about game music a few mins ago and nobody lynched me at least...

Downvoter

01:38

@cowgod, that's not the standard though

Downvoter

new-super-mario-bros would be one tag

Downvoter

wii another

Downvoter

and the abbreviation is not necessary

cowgod

no, the game is called "New Super Mario Bros. Wii"

Grace Note

Well, I think in this particular case the actual game name is new-super-mario-bros-wii

cowgod

01:39

it needs to be in the tag

Downvoter

oh

Downvoter

ok

Grace Note

Still needs a separate wii tag, of course

cowgod

yes

Downvoter

is new-super-mario-bros-wii too long?

Grace Note

01:39

Nope

random

Doesn't have to be that exact

Grace Note

It's 23 characters

cowgod

but in one of the SO podcasts jeff was discussing at length how genius it was of math overflow to use tags like i suggested (abbreviation, period, full name). it's a rather brilliant idea that i can't seem to get anyone to get behind

Kevin Y

It's only a few characters more than game-recommendations.

alexanderpas

@juan: Wrong! [new-super-mario-bros] and [new-super-mario-bros-wii] are two seperate tags for two seperate games!

Downvoter

01:41

mathematicians are weird though (j/k)

cowgod

the reason it's genius is because when people tag their question, they can use either the abbreviation or the full game name and the auto-complete will find the right tag in either case

Downvoter

well, post it on meta and see what response you get

Grace Note

We still need extended tag length just for some cases like undefined-fantastic-object

Downvoter

you don't have anything to lose

Grace Note

cowgod already posted it on Meta

alexanderpas

01:42

but try the [new-super-mario-bros-series] tag... too long

cowgod

i did here: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/8/tagging-suggestions

Downvoter

oks

Kevin Y

Should questions about iPhone / iPod Touch / iPad gaming belong on Gaming or Electronic Gadgets (gaming imo).

Grace Note

2

Q: Tagging Suggestions

I think tagging on this site can get out of control very fast. I propose we use the method started by Math Overflow and precede game names with their acronym followed by a dot. This helps the search when people are entering tags because some people will use the full title of a game (new-super-m...

discussion tagging

Kevin Y

Because there's some questions over on Electronic Gadgets about gaming.

Grace Note

01:43

We don't really need a [new-super-mario-bros-series] tag, though

cowgod

no, i'd just call it super-mario-bros-series

Downvoter

are you in on the beta @Kevin? Propose them to post them here!

Grace Note

It'd be like having a [super-mario-world-series] tag

Kevin Y

Yeah, I'll go around suggesting to move them here.

Downvoter

we are close to 1000 users

alexanderpas

01:44

there are no true multiple super mario world games.

Grace Note

Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island

Kevin Y

I think questions regarding the DS game should be tagged [new-super-mario-bros] and [ds], and questions regarding the DS game should be tagged [new-super-mario-bros] and [wii].

cowgod

super mario advance 2: super mario world

alexanderpas

@Grace that's a yoshi's island series game!

cowgod

@Kevin in this case i disagree because wii is in the game name

radp

01:45

re: bullet hell doesn't get TASed

Grace Note

Before there even was a Yoshi's Island series, it was a Super Mario World series

radp

not even when apparently a game has never been truly beaten?

►

I mean, I'm not volounteering

Grace Note

They aren't speedruns

radp

they don't have to be speedruns

the point is superhuman gameplay...

or so I understand

Grace Note

That kinda disqualifies the "S" in TAS

Which is "Tool Assisted Speedruns"

radp

01:48

well, most TASes sacrifice time for entertainment

Grace Note

I guess you could call it super human

alexanderpas

> Before there even was a Yoshi's Island series, it was a Super Mario World series ✎

Grace Note

Just seems like another coin to me

radp

case in point, tasvideos.org/1569M.html

alexanderpas

is like saying rayman raving rabbits is part of the rayman series...

Downvoter

01:49

off to eat

Downvoter

be back later

radp

writing numbers would be far faster

random

MathOverflow had their abbreviations as part of their studies/research and a reason behind using it like that

cowgod

i have a reason behind it too :P

radp

4am :D

nite

Grace Note

01:54

G'nite, @badp

May giant bee bosses haunt your dreams~

Kevin Y

Bye @badp.

alexanderpas

why do i now see the bee queen from super mario galaxy.

BTW: how about this tumbleweed:

1

Q: Is the Nostromo N52 TE a useful accesory?

I've been looking at purchasing a Belkin Nostromo N52 TE and was wondering if anyone had had experience with this device. I have a few questions about it: Is is easy to setup and configure? Does it work well on a Mac? Do you think it improves your game play? Is there a better left hand acces...

accessories nostromo

Kevin Y

I never knew Belkin made products like that . . .

alexanderpas

I've got two of them (old versions) here (second hand), but never used them, and also I'm not on a mac.

Grace Note

About time I got to answer a question! Woo!

Kevin Y

02:09

* upvote * :)

Downvoter

so, what's the note?

Downvoter

you finish some sentences with?

Grace Note

You mean ♪ ?

Downvoter

there are no other notes around, yes

Grace Note

I haven't configured the R-9DH fully, so it's just an alt-code entered character.

Downvoter

02:21

yeah, but what does it mean

Downvoter

and what does your name mean?

Grace Note

Just imagine that I'm humming or singing

Downvoter

I was

Grace Note

The R-9DH Grace Note is both the name of a ship in the game R-Type Final, and the name of my laptop

Downvoter

I wondered if it had deeper meaning

Downvoter

02:23

oh, cool

Grace Note

Nah, I've always been using it when I'm in a good mood. ♪

All of the ships in the R-9DH series are musically inclined, R-9DH2 Hot Conductor and R-9DH3 Concertmaster

Downvoter

he

Grace Note

Wait, wait, we already have a 'subjective' tag?

alexanderpas

it's for those out of close votes ;)

Grace Note

Is anyone voting on that question? It looks dangerous to leave open.

alexanderpas

02:37

already voted.

alexanderpas

02:54

sigh...

2

Q: What is the most powerful experience you have had, playing a game?

What game gave you the most compelling experience in your entire life? For me it was playing Steve Meretzky's Planetfall. I won't say what happened in the game, because it would be a spoiler. But when it happened, I will never forget that my opinion of how much a game could affect you, change...

retro-gaming

Grace Note

Oh, hey, a doujin game question

Okay, what are people thinking when they use the 'retro-gaming' tag?

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