The Nineteenth Byte

quartata

21:00

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ not even the most disturbing filthy frank thumbnail

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata ∅_∅

Alex A.

I don't even know why the thumbnail is disturbing, it's just weird.

Downgoat

@AlexA. ._.

Solver

That is going to be a meme

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

RDFTD @CoolestVeto

Tristam - I Remember

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Solver

21:01

Btw i am slowly typing on my tiny phone

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Solver You poor soul

Solver

:'(

CoolestVeto

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :o I just got RDFTD'd.

The tables are turning.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@CoolestVeto ohai

and yes they are

Solver

I am doing this in my bed.

CoolestVeto

21:02

@Solver ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Solver

Because i don't want to sleep.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Of course you don't ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Solver

Because the nineteenth byte is cooler than sleep.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

19 hours of TNB and 5 hours of sleep

Solver

21:05

Should I sleep or not?

Downgoat

@Solver who needs sleep when you can write a short program to do it for you

Solver

@Downgoat :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat /have a builtin

sleep 5

Downgoat

ok

Solver

@Downgoat ping me tomorrow and I'll solve your SO problem.

Downgoat

21:07

@Solver sure, what time zone are you in?

Solver

UUTC

UUltra UTC

Downgoat

Did you mean: utc

oh

Solver

My phone is weird.

Downgoat

@Solver it must be using tabs then

Optimizer

He's in Unary UTC

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:09

@Downgoat ಠ_ಠ

Solver

@Downgoat what time zone r u in?

Downgoat

@Solver PPST

PPacific Standard Time

Solver

??

LockOpeners

Programming Puzzles Standard Time

Solver

So GMT + 10?

GGmt + wat

Downgoat

21:11

I think it's UTC-8

Solver

OOkay cool.

is cheddar on npm

Downgoat

no

but you can install it from github

github.com/vihanb/Cheddar

Solver

I will put it on npm for you

IIf u like

Downgoat

@Solver thanks, but I think it's too early to do that

should Cheddar continue running after a runtime error or should it just kill the program

Solver

BBtw cookie is at ojas-gulati

/cookie

Maltysen

21:15

@Downgoat kill I would say

Downgoat

ok

CoolestVeto

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Response RDTFD (not really dubstep though)

Scott Bradlee & Post Modern Jukebox - Thrift Shop (Bart&Baker Electro Swing Club Remix)

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Solver

IIt should print cheddar doesn't like this cheese and continue

Dennis

@Doorknob Does -d print to STDERR?

Downgoat

What is RDTFD? Read, Dan, the fucking docs?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:16

@CoolestVeto waddafq

Solver

Dafuq?

CoolestVeto

@Downgoat Random Dubstep For The Day

Downgoat

Ohok

Solver

@Dennis in what language

CoolestVeto

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Electroswing.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:17

It's interesting.

@CoolestVeto Counterattack EDM:

Basshunter - Saturday Lyrics

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CoolestVeto

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Streaming with a playlist right now, I'll take a look at it later. <3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@CoolestVeto kk :D

Alex A.

@quartata Rewatching the video with Brock Lee vs. Racist Santa.

Solver

Om nom nom nom

Cake

WWhy is it so quiet here!

!?

Downgoat

@Solver I thoguht you were going to sleep

CoolestVeto

21:21

[Glitch Hop / 110BPM] - Varien & Razihel - Toothless Hawkins (And His Robot Jazz Band)

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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Glitch Swing Hook:

Solver

I decided not to, im on my phone

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@CoolestVeto ooo nice

Solver

@Downgoat ^^

Downgoat

@Solver you put up a strong point

Solver

:)

Downgoat

21:23

\o/ finished scopes on cheddar

now I just need to implement loops and conditionals...

and execution

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

gj

Downgoat

and interpretation

and STDOUT and STDERR

sigh

Solver

Congrats!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Comparatively, I've got more done on Dyia than you have on Cheddar :P

Solver

SSame with cookie

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:24

(Mainly because Dyia has less to be had at :P)

Maltysen

@Downgoat that one seems important

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ but Cheddar is bigger than Diya, I think :/

@Maltysen just a little

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

34 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

(Mainly because Dyia has less to be had at :P)

Solver

I use file input and output

Downgoat

I have a REPL up, hopefully I can finish classes and start testing

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:25

:D

aditsu

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ooh Basshunter is fun, they have a song about an irc bot :) youtube.com/watch?v=zf2wbRWb9xI

Solver

AAny better ideas for a node based language?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat I don't know what you are talking ab_UNK

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu Let me guess, Ana boten? :D

or another one

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ oh no

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:26

@CoolestVeto 10/10 have that downloaded.

aditsu

Boten Anna

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu I always fail that name :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat brb finding priest for exorcism

Maltysen

@Downgoat I'm working on a native implementation of pyth

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

wait, @Geobits said he got marky a body...

Downgoat

21:27

@Maltysen what do youmean by "nativwe implementation"?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

that was me? o_O

Maltysen

right now i'm mainly just copy pasting the operators from the regular pyth cuz the frameworks almost done

Solver

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ wat is your timeline

Timezone

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Solver ??

Maltysen

@Downgoat non-transpiler

CoolestVeto

21:27

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Dude, you have almost exactly my taste in music. xD

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o

EST

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CoolestVeto :3

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Geobits says the body was made out of the skin the people he murdered

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat oh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Anyone here a fan of 90s rock?

Downgoat

21:27

@Maltysen why woud you do that

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I prefer 90s stones

Solver

Goodnight anyways

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

bai

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Solver bai

Downgoat

@Solver Night!

CoolestVeto

Hugh Laurie ''Kiss Of Fire''

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Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:28

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 80s FTW.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oo that too

Maltysen

@Downgoat a) to do things that we can't do through trasnpilization b) possibly write in RPython and make an exe

Downgoat

> trasnpilization

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Our house, in the middle of our street.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ 70-90s is my thing

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:29

Madness FTW.

Maltysen

Pyth has really gotten far away from Python and there's no real reason why it has to keep transpilizationing

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ME!

and you

Dennis

None of you, or you wouldn't be here.

aditsu

@CoolestVeto Dr House sings :)

Maltysen

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ and me! whooh monday

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:29

@Dennis um

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Dennis lies

trichoplax

Woo! I just got the yearling badge! Only took me 20 months. Hang on...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

well, um, I um gotta go now bai!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

BAI

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

totally not to do hw

Downgoat

21:30

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ bye!

quartata

@QPaysTaxes He's a professor. I think he understands the mindset fairly well

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ BAI!

CoolestVeto

@aditsu Yes. Yes he does.

Tango and Classic Jazz.

quartata

@QPaysTaxes abandon all work ye who enter here

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

vim looks... interesting. I finally was able to open it after forgetting I had it :P

Dennis

21:30

@QPaysTaxes Met? I've taught them.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@QPaysTaxes Is excuse to say he never heard it.

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ vim is the bset

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Dennis what did you teach?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I don't know how to go into edit mode.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

roflmao

quartata

21:31

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Math at least I think

Maltysen

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ lolololol

its i

Dennis

@QPaysTaxes Don't. I ran away as soon as I could.

quartata

@Dennis So it's a "know your enemy" kind of deal?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@QPaysTaxes >.<

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

For me it's s

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:31

vim not VIM

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ i or a

Dennis

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Mathematical Analysis

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes I tok gud al du teim

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Is : goto Nth line?

trichoplax

Has anyone else just received the yearling badge despite having been here well over a year?

Downgoat

21:32

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yes

Maltysen

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ its all the commands

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_o well it sure eeems like it does

Maltysen

including jump to line

aditsu

@trichoplax I think you get that every year

Downgoat

:i s used to start a command

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:32

:32 goes to the 32nd line

Maltysen

13 secs ago, by Maltysen

including jump to line

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You can also do 32j

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes ^

trichoplax

@aditsu Ohhhh - I see. Thanks

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I don't need all this fancy stuff >_> I'm going back to notepad

Downgoat

21:33

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ noooo!

Alex A.

@Downgoat No, esc enters normal mode

quartata

@Downgoat no it's not

Downgoat

:/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

aditsu

I like my editors without modes and moods :p

Downgoat

21:34

@QPaysTaxes I don't know what you're talking about

quartata

I've used vim for many years and I like to pretend to understand it on the internet

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata You know more than I :P

Alex A.

I know less about Vim than I know about pants

quartata

@aditsu So you're a nano fan I take it

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^^

Downgoat

21:35

I've used vim for 2 months and I like to fail at pretending I understand on the internet

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^

quartata

@AlexA. hey in your defense pants are hard

Dennis

The only vim command I've bothered learning was :q. It's quite easy to open by accident.

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aditsu

@quartata in text mode, sure nano is da best

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^^^

Downgoat

21:35

@Dennis ಠ_ಠ

quartata

I used to be an emacs fanboy. Those were the days

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I still say notepad is the best

Alex A.

@quartata Gross

quartata

Now I have no idea how to use emacs

Downgoat

I have never uesed emacs, is it like vim?

quartata

21:36

@AlexA. misguided youth

@Downgoat polar opposite of vim

LockOpeners

It's like vim but with more RSI

quartata

vim is everything beautiful in the world

Downgoat

@quartata oh, so terrible?

quartata

emacs is everything ugly in the world

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata amen

Maltysen

21:36

@aditsu nano is torture

Alex A.

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aditsu

@QPaysTaxes @Maltysen never had problems with it, but I prefer GUI editors

quartata

@aditsu gvim is a thing

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^^

aditsu

@quartata it's still a vim, isn't it? so fail :p

flawr

21:37

@El'endiaStarman RUHERE?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

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Alex A.

Whoa-ho-ho. Go go gadget rekt over here.

quartata

@QPaysTaxes Actually it's a good way to learn vim. It has menus for most of the commands and mouse clicky things

@aditsu It's the graphical version of vim

aditsu

@quartata does it make it any more usable?

Alex A.

@aditsu no

quartata

21:38

@aditsu yes

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CoolestVeto can I subscribe to RDFTD?

quartata

although ultimately it's more or less a crutch that you'll eventually learn not to use

aditsu

I like that we all agree ^_^

Alex A.

Yes he does

quartata

yes he does

Dennis

21:39

Yep.

double ninja'd

quartata

ROASTE
D

Alex A.

Go go gadget rekt

quartata

@QPaysTaxes you ask politely

Alex A.

@QPaysTaxes Ask Dennis

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes get someone who speaks the language and put them on top of the server that runs tryitonline

Alex A.

21:40

@QPaysTaxes No I mean that's how you get it on there. You ask Dennis and he'll put it on there.

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes why the frown?

Dennis

As long as the interpreter is safe (no file I/O, no internet access, no arbitrary code execution), point me to it and I'll add it asap.

quartata

well you can't have file access

Dennis

Which language are you using?

Downgoat

Alex A.

21:42

One of these days I'll get back to mine. It won't be a very effective golfing language though; it'll be all UTF-8, so byte city.

quartata

Ruby

Downgoat

what happened to my terminal

Alex A.

@Downgoat You entered Emacs

LockOpeners

That's emacs

Dennis

Great, that should work without issues.

Downgoat

21:42

D:

yeah, but how do I get out

quartata

C-x C-c

LockOpeners

You can C-x C-c, but you can never leave

quartata

@AlexA. MATL only uses UTF-8

Maltysen

@quartata and then sudo apt-get purge emacs

quartata

@LockOpeners teehee

aditsu

21:43

@Downgoat reboot to be safe ^^

Alex A.

@quartata Mine will be primarily non-ASCII-range though

LockOpeners

@Maltysen >debian

quartata

@AlexA. why

LockOpeners

>2016

quartata

why not just make an encoding then

Alex A.

21:44

@quartata Because it's a language I want to make and I don't care about it being particularly competitive for golf

quartata

if you want pretty characters

@AlexA. Oh, OK. Then go nuts

What paradigm will it be

flawr

@quartata Destruction oriented

Alex A.

@quartata It'll be more like three dimes, not a pair of dimes.

quartata

By the way, Phigs is gonna be really interesting once it is done. It'll be one of the first golfing functional programming languages near as I can tell

flawr

@quartata J?

Maltysen

21:45

@flawr well, right now its nonfunctional

CoolestVeto

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ kek

Sure.

Maltysen

bad dum tszzz

LockOpeners

heh

quartata

@flawr That's not really a golfing language

Alex A.

@flawr J is concise but it isn't a golfing language

flawr

21:45

So concise != golfing?

quartata

@AlexA. serious answer pls

Alex A.

@flawr Golfing => concise but it doesn't go both ways

LockOpeners

concatenative or bust

Alex A.

@quartata Seriously

quartata

@AlexA. no pls

You.. haven't actually decided yet have you

CoolestVeto

21:47

Anybody know how to run Shoes? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/77522/44713

Downgoat

@CoolestVeto yes

quartata

@CoolestVeto yes

Downgoat

you put them on

Maltysen

@CoolestVeto you wear them

ninja'd

Downgoat

then move one leg forward

then you move the other

CoolestVeto

21:47

wow

quartata

I.. actually have Shoes though

Alex A.

@quartata Array maybe kinda functional

quartata

Actually you can just do ./shoes

LockOpeners

@QPaysTaxes Concatenative doesn't necessitate RPN

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CoolestVeto thx

quartata

21:48

@AlexA. So it'll be like APL

Downgoat

@quartata I don't

I'm a goat

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hai i am cat

Alex A.

@quartata more or less

quartata

@AlexA. have fun parsing it

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ do cat's wear shoes?

quartata

21:48

hooks and forks are parsing hell just ask @Dennis

Alex A.

@quartata That'll be the easy part

Maltysen

> cat<b>'</b>s

quartata

@AlexA. no it won't

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat yeah, they have natural fur shoes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Yeah, it's not that hard

Maltysen

21:49

@QPaysTaxes I officially give up

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I already have a mostly-functional parser

Dennis

@quartata They're not that bad if you don't care about efficiency.

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ but they don't wear them

quartata

@Dennis Well, I guess I kinda assumed he wanted to make a good parser

Maltysen

@QPaysTaxes magic

Dennis

21:50

@quartata My parser doesn't handle the different type of chains. That's probably why it's not efficient...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat true

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Dennis I don't know how to parse hooks/forks :|

Do you have a good algorithm?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I don't even have a ~~good~~ not crappy parser for FOG.

quartata

@Dennis Why does it not? I presumed you'd parse hooks into some sort of AST like fg -> g--->(f---->x),x

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I have pretty much ignored the advice CR gave when I posted the source.

quartata

21:51

Then it would be pretty easy to traverse

Maltysen

prefix is easy af to parse

Dennis

@quartata I don't even know what an AST is.

Maltysen

@QPaysTaxes weird apl stuff

quartata

@QPaysTaxes J things

@Maltysen Nope, not APL

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Maltysen is stack based and postfix.

quartata

21:52

APL only has atops

Maltysen

@Dennis the best way to write a language

CoolestVeto

@QPaysTaxes Witchcraft and hooliganism.

quartata

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ That's... even easier to parse

Alex A.

Abstract syntax tree

In computer science, an abstract syntax tree (AST), or just syntax tree, is a tree representation of the abstract syntactic structure of source code written in a programming language. Each node of the tree denotes a construct occurring in the source code. The syntax is "abstract" in not representing every detail appearing in the real syntax. For instance, grouping parentheses are implicit in the tree structure, and a syntactic construct like an if-condition-then expression may be denoted by means of a single node with three branches. This distinguishes abstract syntax trees from concrete syntax...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata good

quartata

21:53

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I mean... it's literally just a switch case

Maltysen

^

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

well, will create parser later when I have time.

quartata

I don't think it even qualifies as a "parser"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

quartata

I mean, it sorta does.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:53

brb bai

quartata

But it's so fundamentally simple that I wouldn't think about it in terms of one

Maltysen

but AST's are actually the best

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ease of parsing, ranked from easiest to hardest: postfix, prefix, infix

Dennis

@quartata This is how I parse chains. That's done at run time, not during parsing.

quartata

@Dennis my eyes

Actually it's not that bad

Dennis

21:55

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I don't. See above.

quartata

But I think it would be much easier for you to have that done at parse time

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

aditsu

"it also produces its own force field which prevents it from going through the ground" -> I heard that one of the first physicists who figured out that matter is mostly empty space had a hard time getting out of bed the next morning for fear of falling through the floor

quartata

You can essentially translate Jelly into a sort of prefix language

Dennis

@quartata I doubt it would be easier, but it would most definitely be more efficient.

quartata

21:55

@aditsu hahahahahahahahahaha

Maltysen

@aditsu rofl

quartata

@Dennis Wait a second...

are your functions in alphabetical order?

Wow, your code is actually kinda organized. I thought you said your code was ugly

> return 1 + index

@Dennis Doesn't Python have something like Perl's $[?

Also you really do indent with tabs. sigh

Dennis

@quartata What other order is there?

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