@Dennis Random

@quartata No, it does not.

@Dennis That sucks.

@quartata There's a lot of stuff Python doesn't have. At least not out of the box...

$[ is deprecated by the way.

@QPaysTaxes bai

@Dennis Really?

Yup.

ah yes, I found the quote - pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/atoms-electrons.html

> Deprecated in Perl v5.12.0.

My camel book just says it's discouraged not deprecated

Then again my copy of the camel book is from like 1998 so I'm not surprised it's a little out of date...

> a little

Well, Perl hasn't changed a whole lot since the 90s

What did $[ do?

First index of an array

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ SyntaxError: Unexpected Token[

$[ = 1 makes arrays 1-indexed

$[ = 0 makes them 0-indexed

ooo cool

It's a leftover from awk.

I like that idea, good for golfing

lot of special variables in Perl were added so that awk scripts were easy to port

?

keyboard misfire

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ KeyboardFire

APL has that too. ⎕IO←x makes arrays x-indexed.

@quartata NotDoorknob

haha! No one has cracked my vim answer yet!

strawpoll.me/7339487

Anyone who says "1" is a monster.

>_>

whistles

Unless they are a bird.

For golfing, most definitely 1. Having a falsy index at the beginning has burned me so many times...

Otherwise, I don't have a strong preference.

@Dennis Can you pull MATL whenever you have a minute?

I voted 1. Matlab has made me a monster

Done.

@Dennis Thank you! FPITW again :-)

@LuisMendo Nooooo...

@LuisMendo :P

I actually like both but I voted 0

All of the languages I know well are 1-based

I'm 0 all the way. Code Jam kept on throwing me off

Julia is 1-based?

Yes

How little I care about this reminded me of a webcomic.

theoatmeal.com/comics/gif (NSFW)

XD

strawpoll.me/7339530

@Dennis Hahaha. Very good!

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Hard "g" here. Spanish influence I guess, it's more natural to us

Whoever voted soft "g", like in "giraffe": ಠ_ಠ

That would be me.

Yay, I'm not alone anymore!

It's a picture, not a peanut butter

it starts with the word "graphic"

Wait, which one is hard and which is soft?

which is said with a hard g

Soft is like 'j'

@LuisMendo peanut butter is soft

There's zhif, jif, and g`if

Oh god, soft g is winning?

Who the hell says zhif?

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ I change my name from soft g to hard g

So hard is like "get". Then I voted what I meant

Yes

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ My friend.

Soft g in GIF? I thought we were friends.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Your friend is stranzhe.

@Maltysen But standard butter is softer :-)

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ yeah

@LuisMendo I was talking about the brand of peanut butter called JIF

@Downgoat Downjoat.

Ugh people actually voted for soft g

See, I knew @LuisMendo and I were meant to be best friends. He prefers 1-based arrays and pronounces GIF with a hard g.

That's all I really look for in a friend.

@AlexA. And Julia looks a lo like Matlab :-D

:D

@quartata Which is, objectively, the right option. Inventor's choice.

Hahaha. You're not too demanding

Actually the second programming language I ever used was Matlab.

@Dennis \0/

My second was python

@AlexA. Is it really similar to Julia? That's the impression I get from your answers

/me is a youngin'

augh soft g is winning

oh no /me

@Maltysen Ooooh. I lack the cultural reference then :-)

@LuisMendo It's been quite a while since I've used Matlab so I don't remember it all that well, but Julia's syntax is partly inspired by that of Matlab.

Not much peanunt butter in Spain

Julia docs actually have a page about the differences docs.julialang.org/en/release-0.4/manual/noteworthy-differences

@LockOpeners Oh rly?

and differences from other langs

but matlab is at the top

@LockOpeners Very nice, thanks!

> clichés

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no "zhif", nope, never, stop writing crap like that, that would be "ze hif"

@aditsu o_O? That's how its written

maybe in Chinese :p

Jeez, that onebox was way larger than I was expecting.

@Doorknob Clearly he meant s/clichéd/Stack/

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ The One Box to rule them all

@AlexA. no hover over the onebox :P

I know

I just like to think he meant "Derailing Stack Exchanges"

YES! Hard g is gaining ground against soft g in the polls!

Re: GIFs

lol

Meanwhile 1-based indexing is getting ROASTE D.

I feel like I'm missing something there.

@Dennis .avi is below gif

0 based indexing is best

@Dennis You'd think PDF would be on par with TeX given that PDFs are often generated by TeX...

except when I have to do array[i+1]

> often

but that's okay

@AlexA. But not always.

True that

@AlexA. But Excel can generate pfd's too. Ew

.JPEG is below .jpeg

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ WAIT no I meant choice not name

@Doorknob what would the file extension for a doorknob be

My choice is g as in goat

@Downgoat Oh, I get it.

I'm also very disappointed in you.

@AlexA. .doorknob

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ why

heh

@Doorknob ಠ_ಠ 4 letters or fewer

@AlexA. why

Because is better

.dknb

@AlexA. why

Because is best

why

@AlexA. Short extensions are for backwards compatibility with DOS.

.best

@Downgoat Because I like getting in pointless arguments about how to pronounce acronyms with goats on the internet.

Don't we all

Isn't that what the internet is for?

@Downgoat Haha, done.

@Dennis Doesn't make them not better

thanks

@AlexA. I use .bubblegum. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

^^ true story for me

Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Untitled.doc

@Dennis (╯°□°）╯︵ (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

I use .snowman

dennis-home:~$ ls -d t*
t            testcases.1  t.gz                                              t.pl
t2           test.cjam    things_americans_find_offensive_2016_edition.jpg  tp.lua
t.bg         test.cpp     t.hs                                              t.ppm
t.c          test.gz      t.html                                            t.py
t.cjam       testi.py     time.c                                            trigger
t.cpp        testlast     time.php                                          trigger.c

Lol, what is things_americans_find_offensive_2016_edition.jpg?

The title offends me.

What is true.s?

Americans like to get offended

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Add it to the list.

llama@llama:~/code/misc$ find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*test*'
./testy.c
./testy.o
./testvec
./testy
./test.cs
./test.rb
./powtest.rs
./test.c
./test.exe
./webtest
./testyblah
./testy.cpp
./test.rs
./test.js
./testblah.cpp
./test
./test.mac
./bqtest
./test.pl
./powtest
./test.py
./skypetest.py
./test.sh
./test.vim
./testcpp
./testyblah.cpp
./testy.py
./testvec.rs
./testyblah.c
./test.cpp
./testy.metadata.o
./asdftest2
./test2.c
./asdftest

@flawr Huh?

@AlexA. Assembly for my implementation of coreutil's true.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ s/Americans/dumb people from any country/

@Dennis What is coreutil's true

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ s/ from any country//

@AlexA. a program that does nothing and returns success

@Doorknob Baller

@AlexA. It returns true.

false, according to its manpage, "do[es] nothing, unsuccessfully"

hahaha

==> Deleted Formulae
sickrage

Sick rage, bro

(seen while updating Homebrew stuff)

I know at least several people in here were or are homeschooled. If those folks don't mind sharing, I'd be interested to hear why they were homeschooled rather than attending a public, private, or charter school.

@muddyfish As long as it works... :)

@AlexA. Several? I only know of one. (myself)

I know at least one other

@AlexA. My brother is homeschooled because he has aspergers

@AlexA. I wasn't, but my best friend and fiancée were, and I'm thinking I'll probably homeschool the kids I eventually have.

@El'endiaStarman What would be your reasoning for that?

So saying "I know several people..." You're really just trying to get me and one other user to explain? :P

No, I figured there are more

And you don't have to explain; no one has to. I'm just curious.

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ is

Can anyone think of a blue spice or cooking powder? (whether you were homeschooled or not)

@AlexA. Why are you wondering?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just curious. I heard on the radio the other day that homeschooling is becoming more popular in the US and I wondered why.

@AlexA. because the public school system is $h!t

@AlexA. Some of it will probably depend on where we end up raising our kids. My nephew and niece go to a Montessori school, which would probably be fine for me. The crucial aspect is that if you homeschool (and do it well), your kids will get a far better education than public-schooled kids. My best friend once said that I basically got the best of both words. I was public schooled, but my parents and brothers were really good about encouraging learning at home.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I attended public school from kindergarten through university and I didn't have any issues with it.

^

*nowadays

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That was one of the big reasons my best friend was homeschooled. The school system in his county was terrible.

@El'endiaStarman Ahh

@HelkaHomba Melange?

@AlexA. there was this essay on TNB about the school system just being a place for adults to keep kids

sooooo true

The school system in my county, a neighboring county, was great.