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7:00 PM

@StrixVaria YEA. AS WITH ANYTHING, IT CAN BE MEANT PLAYFULLY, BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE IN THAT CASE.

@StrixVaria how would you ask that sincerely then?

We have tons of questions about getting Minecraft clients to connect to servers and viceversa

I don't know why this is suddenly a problem

@badp When the focus is on the game, no problem.

@Chippies "Can you show me the meta question where we decided to allow those questions?"

When the focus is on fixing your firewall, nope, not happening.

7:02 PM

@JasonBerkan seems as "hostile" as "since when", imho

The joys of language.

it's just a longer sentence

@Frank The accepted answer makes the game work. I don't know how the focus couldn't be more squarely on the game.

@badp It's about the question. Has to be. There's no answer there!

@badp the game works, but other people can't join him. He's asking how to configure his particular firewall

7:03 PM

You can't justify something is acceptable when there's nothing there to justify it off of!

@Chippies Yes. So?

He's asking how to configure the firewall to make the game work.

@badp "I made a web server and my firewall doesn't allow other people to connect. How do I fix this?"

@Chippies But he didn't make a web server.

My take: Asking what firewall configurations will make a game work is on topic. Asking how to apply those settings to some specific firewall software is not on topic.

@badp not sure how it's different though, the question is about firewall, not game

7:04 PM

@Chippies is it a web server that is not working?

replace the game with any other application and the question stays the same

@StrixVaria I can live with this.

@Chippies wtf

@badp This is our acid test. He's trying to configure ports on his specific application. The underlying reason is for Minecraft, but the problem is still configuring ports.

@badp in his particular question, he's having firewall issues, not game issues

7:04 PM

Peel out Minecraft, the problem still exists.

if the mention of game can be removed and the question still works. its off topic

Ergo, not on topic here.

@Rapitor but the objective is to get the game server to work? How can the answers be the same if you remove the specific game server?

@StrixVaria That's objective, and specific to a game. I agree.

If I want to make a web server work I have to open port 80

7:05 PM

@badp The asker is currently assuming it's his firewall. It's an XY problem.

Port 80 is not used by CS:GO

@badp if you replace the game, the answer would still apply. If you replace the firewall software, the answer wouldn't apply anymore.

It could be the ports. I dunno. It could be something else.

@Frank First off, you could try and post "Well then disable your firewall" and see how helpful that answer is.

@badp That's not an answer.

That's a staggeringly unhelpful answer.

7:06 PM

Ah, but it's applying the XY principle

Omg, GoG Galaxy Beta.

I might have to start actually using GoG soon.

We're not in the business of fixing firewalls.

"You're doing it wrong, you don't have to do Y to get X: Z works too"

@Frank We're not in any business.

@badp We don't even know what X is!

7:07 PM

That's the whole point of claiming it's an XY problem

All we have are basic symptoms.

Are you sure it's your firewall? Try temporarily disabling it to see if the problem still exists. — Unionhawk 6 secs ago

@Frank He said it works when he disables the firewall, so it has to be the firewall?

And a jump to the conclusion that it's the firewall.

It's not that hard people.

7:07 PM

5 hours ago, by Jason Berkan

@Gnomeslice approved! ;)

HE SAID HE'S ALREADY WHITELISTED THE PORTS.

> when ConfigServer Firewall is active.

I assume that means he has tried to disable it?

@Unionhawk HE SPECIFIED "WHILE [WHATEVER THE NAME IS] IS ACTIVE"

@badp Which just makes the case stronger.

We are not firewall tech support.

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, saw that.

7:08 PM

I didn't realize you had changed your name.

@JasonBerkan Heh.

@Frank We needn't be

We don't need to come up with a working configuration script

I've known about GoG Galaxy for a while, definitely interested in trying the beta out.

He hasn't asked for one

@badp That's what we're doing here.

7:08 PM

I have never bought anything on GoG, but I have some free crap in my library there.

He should be providing his own though.

@DwarfSlice I've bought a few games there and regretted every one of them.

@StrixVaria lol

@DwarfSlice I've replaced a large number of my old DOS games from my closet with GoG copies.

@badp He's asking for firewall tech support.

Is that not the root of the question?

7:09 PM

@Frank Well then, I shall respect your right to be wrong on the internet.

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I'll go do something else

Or that. You can do that.

I agree with @Frank on this one.

erp

lol

@DwarfSlice butts!

7:10 PM

better

@DwarfSlice You have the worst luck with YouTube thumbnails.

I should have known better, that was the album art.

Unless it's from a channel I know doesn't use album art, it's usually album art.

Vital (above) doesn't.

user image

cc: @badp

@Chippies Have that new Ancient yet that will give you ungodly DPS w/ your auto clicker? :)

@Chippies You are completely crazy. that's insane.

7:13 PM

@Chippies It appears that the hero souls you get for actually leveling up heroes are almost negligible.

@James I should go get that one.

@James nope, I don't think I'll ever bother with it, because Libertas is a huge gold boost and doesn't work with clicking

@Arperum I wish I could as well

@StrixVaria once you start getting 100+ souls per run, the hero level souls are somewhat negligible

@Chippies E_FUCKS_LEFT_TO_GIVE_NOT_GREATER_OR_EQUAL_THAN

7:13 PM

@Chippies Yeah my friend pointed out how he gets pretty much double everything.. the jerk

@James I have an autoclicker myself for bossfights, but I don't have one of the new ancients in my next ancient rotation.

@badp what I'm trying to show there is that your whole thing about getting as far as you can for every ascension is far from optimal

I ascended last night and the first time I had to pause was for one extra kill before Omeet.

@Chippies E_FUCKS_LEFT_TO_GIVE_NOT_GREATER_OR_EQUAL_THAN

Then I blazed through 20 more levels.

Omeet that jerk.

7:15 PM

I did 2 4'ish hour ascensions before this run and I could get almost 200 levels higher than before

@Chippies I am a firm believer in the idea that "most optimal" is not the same as "most fun".

@StrixVaria For some people finding the most optimal solution in a game is literally all the fun.

@StrixVaria I am a firm believer than sitting for 6 days with barely any upgrades is hardly fun

see: Spacechem

@Chippies E_FUCKS_LEFT_TO_GIVE_NOT_GREATER_OR_EQUAL_THAN

7:16 PM

@DwarfSlice Yeah. There are people who feel rewarded for different things.

Also Great Permutator CC @OrigamiRobot

@badp that's 3 fucks given I counted so far

@DwarfSlice Ugh

@StrixVaria lol

@StrixVaria You wouldn't like Great Permutator.

Also Infinifactory

Spacechem is absurd

7:17 PM

@DwarfSlice I didn't buy it because of this reason.

@Arperum I had to reroll 5 times to see Isis, I did not keep the 140ish lost hero souls

@StrixVaria I suck ass at it.

@Unionhawk Spacechem is awesome.

But I still support it because it's good.

Even if I haven't finished it.

7:17 PM

I'm never going to complete it though.

@Frank It's absurd.

@DwarfSlice I can appreciate games that I don't enjoy playing.

@Unionhawk But awesome in it's absurdness.

@Frank Somebody who you can see should tell you to play Great Permutator.

Spacechem is neat, and it's fun to see some of the stuff other people do in it. But I don't even want to think about playing it myself.

7:18 PM

I once played Spacechem. Never again.

"portable" PS4... quite pricy

@StrixVaria Me too (for most games).

It's neat, but it's so difficult at a point.

I have to be in the right mood to play it.

@Rapitor That seems... not very portable

and for the price, may as well get a laptop

@Chippies hence the quotes

7:19 PM

@StrixVaria I LIKE WATCHING ROOSTERTEETH PLAY VANILLA MINECRAFT EVEN THOUGH I DON'T ENJOY PLAYING IT ANYMORE

IT'S FUN TO SEE THEM COME UP WITH CREATIVE ACTIVITIES

Spleef is really fun

That's pretty much all I did when I used to admin my friend's server.

Metal show cancelled by russian SWAT invasion. Russia is going even more crazy again.

@Arperum ~~again~~ -> still ftfy

HOLY SNAP THEY FINALLY DID IT

> In addition to having 8 save slots in the SD card and one in the cartridge, Etrian Odyssey Untold II will also have the Old and New BGM options as well
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2014/10/14/etrian-odyssey-untold-ii-adds-highlander-class-classic-mode/#m7ImCV579uHUZjwF.99

siliconera.com/2014/10/14/…

cc @GraceNote @Sterno

So FS Ohio is playing some international archery competition...

7:26 PM

@Wipqozn Yay for JS adding to copy and paste.

Also, that JS can die in a fire.

Zeus damn it.

I hate that feature.

I need to get that plugin which disables it.

user image

I should really get back to EO3 as well.

@DwarfSlice I HAD WAY MORE FUN BUILDING OUR SPLEEF MAP THAN PLAYING IT :P

CC @Fluttershy

@fredley you should feel terrible for this

7:27 PM

@Frank That's actually pretty clever

@murgatroid99 No, it's annoying.

It does it without asking.

@OrigamiRobot I ended up building several different versions of mine. It was a lot of fun. I still have the file kicking around somewhere, but it's kind of crashy on new minecraft.

@Frank these are not mutually exclusive

@DwarfSlice I SPENT A TON OF TIME MAKING THEM AUTOMATED.

automated?

7:29 PM

Cobble gens, probably in that day

@Rapitor Oh I do

Texas health department says 2nd health care worker tests positive for Ebola

Aha.

Dwarf?

This is spreading in the US much faster than it should be.

7:29 PM

Nowadays, you can do that with command blocks

wtf?

I used worldedit to fill mine, because I could change the material to whatever I wanted.

That is to say it's spreading at all.

Also I could do multilayered coloured wool, which was pretty fun.

in vanilla

7:29 PM

@DwarfSlice GO IN THE CHUTE, PRESS A BUTTON, WHEN BOTH PLAYER PRESS THEIR BUTTONS, SPIT THEM INTO THE ARENA

Best spleef is with obsidian floors.

@OrigamiRobot Oh, that's neat. Since mine had to be operated by an admin with worldedit, there was just a lever that controlled the doors from the viewing balcony.

I WONDER IF @RonanForman STILL HAS THE MAP ANYWHERE?

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A: What is the optimal strategy for sacrificing faith?

As a side question, the text says "bonus will carry over through resets", but the sacrifice itself has a label called "reset" and then there is the possibility to reset the whole game. I assume that the faith bonus stays through faith sacrifice resets but not through game resets, is this the c...

I LOST IT IN THE REFORMAT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO

7:31 PM

Are we OK with people doing this?

@OrigamiRobot ge.tt appears to be down so it looks like I may have lost mine too.

@Unionhawk Annoyingly clever?

Nope, I have a .zip still.

@OrigamiRobot If you want to look at it, I can upload it somewhere. I was pretty proud of it.

We generated an empty world and built it on an island in the sky.

@murgatroid99 It's a partial answer.

If you feel it doesn't answer the question, downvote.

@Frank So is that a yes, or a no?

7:32 PM

Wipqozn is no longer a turtle, GnomeSlice is no longer a gnome. Pretty much time to delete my account.

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WE HAD 2-MAN SPLEEF, 4-MAN SPLEEF, AND DARK SPLEEF. ALL AUTOMATED

THE REDSTONE FOR 4 MAN WAS SO SLOPPY

That's actually what comments are for. Your answer sounds like a perfect candidate for that. — Frank 10 secs ago

That sounds cooler than mine.

@fredley Finally.

I've been trying to drive you to account deletion since I joined the site.

@Wipqozn Isn't it ironic that it was actually Gnome in the end?

7:33 PM

Also, @DwarfSlice will always be @GnomieBear to me.

@Frank Yeah, I had actually decided to downvote if he didn't expand his answer. I just wasn't sure if there was a policy/guideline for partial answers

@fredley I'm still going to take credit.

@murgatroid99 For what we have there, it could easily have been a comment.

I think it doesn't actually answer the question, so I downvoted it.

brb, I'm going to become broccoli just to irritate people

@fredley k

7:34 PM

@fredley That pixelated face was a gnome? TIL.

Aug 14 '13 at 18:57, by OrigamiRobot

user image

@fredley have fun

@fredley I'm going to eat you tomorrow then.

OVER A YEAR AGO? MY WORD

what's that quote from?

7:35 PM

@OrigamiRobot OH MEMORIES

Aug 14 '13 at 18:55, by GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot oops I was afk

hahahaha

@Rapitor The reason I play MMOs is because I like to show off my dedication to other people and I play FPSes because I like to show off my leet skills. Minecraft single-player didn't quite let me do that.

GnomieBear's Quote

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Bookmarked 10 secs ago by Origami Robot

@Koviko oh of course. never play minecraft alone. can't do "look-it what i made".

7:38 PM

So ge.tt appears to be dead.

Wow.

RIP

I had a lot of stuff on there

My spleef arena

@OrigamiRobot

I'm not sure if that's the one I hacked into being creative mode.

if it's not there's creepers and shit because it originally had worldguard regions on it to protect it.

@OrigamiRobot I might do, but not on this computer.

@DwarfSlice What was that?

@Koviko file sharing site.

7:40 PM

@DwarfSlice Like, a really good one or something?

@DwarfSlice I can probably get it to current vanilla from a technical standpoint if anyone really cares.

I liked it. Also for a while it had integration into twitter, although I didn't use that.

It presented groups of media nicely.

@Unionhawk You mean upgrade the world? It's kinda crashy with new minecraft

@DwarfSlice It can probably be done. Might take some MCEdit work. I don't know. When was it built?

(version wise)

Uh...

I have no idea.

1/4/2013

7:42 PM

whacks work web filter I want to answer the ClapTrap question, but I can't access the sources that will back up what I'm saying.

is what the zip has on it

I'm pretty sure it was before that though.

@Powerlord Answer without sources, harvest rep, maybe add them later?

From what I've read, ClapTrap's abilities in Borderlands: The Presequel are weighted... so, certain situations raise the probability of specific abilities coming up.

@Powerlord you only need the links

...but it's still somewhat random.

7:44 PM

@Unionhawk the guy who owned the server says he thinks it was 1.8 beta

That's probably right

@Rapitor Yeah, except I don't remember where I read it.

(or how reliable said source is even if I could remember what it was)

@RonanForman NO WORRIES, I WAS JUST CURIOUS

Yeah, it's a region format.

I REMEMBER BEING SAD WHEN THEY FIXED CART BOOSTERS

7:45 PM

@Unionhawk What is?

...Community can add tags to questions?

@DwarfSlice The world is, which means it's at least pre-1.2.

@Powerlord anonymous edit, probably

So not 1.8 then

Before release 1.2

So probably Beta 1.8

(it's confusing)

(we're on release 1.8 now. Yeah)

7:47 PM

I recently learned that Minecraft has had cats in the game for years.

But I've never seen one.

@Koviko Yeah, I think as of 1.4. They spawn in jungles as ocelots.

@Koviko they are in jungles

Last time I played, I tried to challenge myself by only playing in the desert.

they scare creepers.

@Rapitor really???

7:49 PM

Oh wow, yeah, this might take some MCEdit work. But I kind of want to get it working if only because I want to get it working.

I REMEMBER WHEN NOTCH FIRST FIXED RAIN BEING VISIBLE EVERYWHERE

OR MAYBE JEB FIXED THAT

Kevin van der Velden

Did notch ever fix things?

Also, I totally typed @notch first...

@Koviko Creepers will run away from both ocelots and cats, even if provoked by the player

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria While I agree with this sentiment in the general principle, I am more of a 3 egg whites and bacon on a roll guy myself, skipping the cheese; also, jersey taylorporkhamroll is gross.

@LessPop_MoreFizz I PREFER JUST BACON AND EGG SANDWICHES TO BACON EGG AND CHEESE

7:52 PM

@OrigamiRobot bacon and egg sandwiches. minus bread and egg.. add more bacon

Pork roll is the best.

I like muffins

@murgatroid99 Muffins just wish they were cupcakes

@Rapitor they're different

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria It's gross.

7:59 PM

I PREFER MUFFINS TO CUPCAKES

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