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Great!

So a question needs to already have reopen votes cast before it appears in the queue?

Seems odd. It should be automatically queued after edits are made on the closed question

harrumph That's gratitude for you.

Wow, zapping 4-voters is very gratifying!

But I even resisted one 4!

Aren't you proud of me?

12:27 AM

@Cerberus pats heads, scratches ears

@KitFox Well, it solves the problem part-way but doesn't go far enough, I guess. Getting the attention drawn to the edit is the hard part. The user has no way of knowing how to do that.

Thanks!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, true enough. Maybe you ought to post a request to modify the reopen queue?

Well, I'm off. Later!

@KitFox Every time I post a feature request TPTB spit on me. So no thanks.

puts mod umbrella over @Mr. Shiny

12:31 AM

thanks :)

Maybe wait a few days anyway so the developer doesn't get pissed.

Now really, see you tomorrow.

cya

I stopped ping-replying to you so that you can go

12:47 AM

I have no idea what to do with this edit: english.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/10587

Too long.

On one hand, someone could post that answer and we couldn't really stop them. On the other hand, it takes a bad answer and adds meaningless speculation and pointless elaborations and not a shred of evidence.

1:28 AM

okay

So I just went through a bunch of questions in the "reopen" review queue

I found that exercise completely pointless

Almost none of the questions had been edited after closing

Yet determining that information was laborious and tedious

Yes, me too.

I cast a scant handful of reopen votes based on the newfound knowledge that ELL questions may be topical, and the rest were "leave closed"

Out of all 66 or whatever it is, or some smaller number?

It was so boring a task that I doubt I'll do it again.

I only made it through 25 or so

I haven't found any to open in the first 20.

I wonder what the Don’t vote does. I think it does nothing. There or in the Close queue.

1:31 AM

yeah most of them were pretty dubious reopen votes. example, I tend to answer "which preposition" questions

Just like I don’t think suggest deletion does anything.

Please don’t reopen Norty’s.

@tchrist Yeah it probably does nothing except remove it from my queue.

@tchrist No, those must be closed on principle.

And pray deleted.

But prepositions are hard for people to understand sometimes. Or they ask a preposition question and they need to be told that the different prepositions actually mean different things.

On SO, the highrep users regularly go through the delete queues. Here, nobody but me does.

So the last 50 things on the queue have me as a voter.

1:33 AM

I'll be honest, I was only barely aware of this feature at all until a few days ago.

But I also go through the closed queue.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It’s ok.

Set it for last 30 days. That’s usually the best way.

Well, sometimes I feel like I should use my10k powers for good instead of nothing. But there is no real reward for doing so.

Although in the last day can be interesting.

What sort of good do you mean?

@tchrist well, like deleting things that need deleting, etc.

I know it isn’t actually true, but sometimes I feel like Reg does most of the work around here. I feel bad for him.

1:35 AM

I actually put effort into reaching 10k. It's hard because it takes time and there's such a long slog from 3k to 10k. I got bored lots of times and let it slide. But you need to post constantly in order to keep getting rep.

So I try to help out as I can.

Yes, that’s right.

@tchrist Well, he does do a lot of work. It's totally obvious when he goes on vacation.

Your rep graph looks totally different from mine.

You did a lot a long time ago,

I did nothing for like more than a year.

Oh wait, I’m looking at your SO account.

Well, it still doesn’t look like mine, but I see what you mean now.

Mine is still a lot more bunched up than yours, and still empty at the beginning.

Anyway, now that I've reached 10k I feel demoralized about using the site. I get no satisfaction about answering questions because most of the questions are so bad, or off-topic, or whatever. I spend all my time just voting to close. That gets dull, so then I don't visit the site.

So the review queues are useful in a way if I can easily find places that I need to act. But actually doing all that work just feels like work. And I don't need no stinkin' badges.

Yes, I know quite what you mean.

Kindness-fatigue.

1:41 AM

esp when all my better answers get no attention whatsoever.

And I take it as a matter of principle to not rep-whore. Usually.

But enough bitching. I have to get going.

Q: If a question ends in the abbreviation of et cetera, do you still add the period before the question mark?

At SO, I get about 1000–1500 of passive rep per month just out of existing. Here, not so much.

See ya.

I should think about supper, I suppose.

The only way we are ever going to get a huge whole lot of high rep users is by getting rid of GR closevotes.

Robusto

1:56 AM

5

Example: How do I pay for the bananas, oranges, etc.? or How do I pay for the bananas, oranges, etc?

punctuation period question-mark

Before you go ...

Clean-up on aisle "Not that again!"

I was listening to the "debates".

Mahnax

2:15 AM

I haven't been around much lately, and now I find out that ELL has been closed?

crosses arms, glares at RC

You can look at the mumbles about it over in the other room.

Mahnax

The summit room?

Right.

Journeyman Geek

2:44 AM

@tchrist: I was earlier ;p

Eh?

Journeyman Geek

Listening to the debates