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4:00 PM
@Reg I am not saying that that was a good reason for doing that, just that it was the reason I did it.
 
Yeah I know.
 
kboss
 
That reason didn't appear to me.
 
ghostridden?
 
But I guess with the new review queues you might be more successful.
 
4:01 PM
Not really.
If the closevotes evap, it wouldn’t be the closevote queue anymore.
 
How many questions do you see for him?
I see 300. Can't be arsed counting the grayed-out ones.
 
@cornbreadninja Poor Zairya.
 
@tchrist I don't know, she looks like she can take him.
 
Commute!
 
@RegDwighт 62 closed + 20 open. I don’t know how to count which open ones have evaporated closevotes, but I know the answer is no few.
 
4:03 PM
Associate!
 
How much do I love you, @cornbread?
 
Rather, I don’t know how to count programmatically without superoverdoing it.
 
@KitFox I reckon I'll never know.
 
sighs forlornly
 
slides fainting couch under @Kit
 
4:05 PM
@KitFox Here’s a comment-chain pseudo-flag for you:
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A: Difference between "opacity" and "opaqueness"

Roaring FishThe difference in use is that you would use opacity to refer to understanding, when something is difficult to understand or obscure. opacity, n. a. Obscurity of meaning; resistance to interpretation; impenetrability; an instance of this. rare before 20th cent. or opacity noun the quality of...

@cornbreadninja You two should get a room.
 
What is the meaning of superoverdoing?
 
Haha.
 
@thavan It means really, really, really overdoing.
 
It is a joke.
 
It's a tragedy.
 
4:07 PM
Ok
 
@tchrist OK, I'm on it, thanks.
 
To overdo something is to do in excess.
 
It's a drag, it's a bore, it's really such a pity / to be looking at the board, not looking at the city
 
If you add super to it, you're overdoing the word overdo!
 
@Cerberus much as to overcome is to come in excess
 
4:08 PM
Um.
Where is the excess in overcome?
 
what? i'm just engaging in a little etymology
 
not getting joke
 
And I have no clue what the product is
 
Oh...
 
4:08 PM
@JSBձոգչ Overcoming is missing the mark.
 
@JSBձոգչ Is there a connection between the two?
 
I’m overcome with supervenience, Tom quipped superciliously.
 
psst somebody tell Cerb what to come means colloquially
 
I know that...
Oh, in that way, d'oh.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you can get those at Target.
 
4:10 PM
 
They are different kinds of pills.
 
facespalms
 
wipes off Cerb’s brow from the splatter
 
Bet you wish you could do that.
 
I hate it when that happens.
 
4:10 PM
Too bad I only have two pa(w/l)ms to cover my faces.
 
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Q: What does the “front left hand first floor room” mean?

IanSay a house has two floors, and on each floor there are two rooms at the front and two at the back. Then what is the meaning of “front left hand first floor room” and way?

Is this urgent? "Please, I have to find the bathroom!"
 
@Cerberus There are those who say palm as pawm, although I am not numbered amongst them.
 
you can get more in twentyninepalms
 
@tchrist What's the IPA symbol for the Tom Brokaw "L"?
 
4:13 PM
@Robusto It depends on the word.
 
@tchrist Yeah, I sort of say it as w.
 
@tchrist How about "yellow"?
 
Well, or a weak l. I don't know any more.
 
@Robusto It this the Jonathan Woss bug?
 
@cornbreadninja That's so...weird.
 
4:14 PM
@KitFox at least it isn't Raven.
 
Paul might call me later.
 
@cornbreadninja Yeah we don't have that in Canada. I guess if you recognize the products the ads aren't so odd.
 
Is the same as: Palm ight calm ylater.
 
@tchrist Not familiar with that one.
 
See how that works?
 
4:15 PM
@KitFox I think the product is neat. It's a return to minimalism in medicine.
 
@Robusto Barbara Walters. Jonathan Ross.
babwawa
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh yeah, I agree. But weird packaging.
Also, our site seems to have gotten nicer again.
 
@tchrist Yeah, but that's an r => w substitution. Tom Brokaw does something else with the L.
 
In my dialect, "Paul might call me later" = "Palm ite calm ylater". The L is fully present.
 
He says "L" like he's trying to balance a ball-bearing on his tongue at the same time.
 
4:16 PM
@Robusto I’d need a sound clip. I can’t summon up his voice in my mind.
Sounds like a dark-l in places where you wouldn’t expect it.
Is that it?
For example, in word-initial position.
 
Here's a bunch.
 
Making letter start the way full ends.
 
@cornbreadninja Haha!
 
That is even further back than a dark L.
Not a W at all.
I see why you ask, @Rob.
I think you need one of those funny superscripts in IPA. Lemme look.
 
It's Jon Purdy. Hold out for Gollum.
 
4:20 PM
@RegDwighт If you had edited a big "!" into norton_s's question, I'd have seen it and immediately voted to close. I'm not interested in whether any specific question by him is any good or not in an absolute sense. It's posted by him, so I want it deleted.
 
@cornbreadninja Oh really?
 
@tchrist ya rly
 
@Robusto Lateralized? Retracted? Velarized? I really don’t know.
 
Velarity ensues
 
Time to go out into the world. Le Terz.
 
4:22 PM
@cornbreadninja That was very funny.
 
OK, may I suggest we now submit a proposal for EnglishUnderflow.SE?
 
@KitFox I was slapping my desk.
 
@cornbreadninja Cornbread! You're people!
 
@KitFox It looks like I Vaselined the lens.
 
You didn't?
 
4:23 PM
n
 
Now I have to replace my mental image of you.
 
@KitFox oh noes. What did it look like?
 
sighs forlornly
@cornbreadninja Kinda like you, only with classic cateye glasses, and a biker jacket with smokes.
 
@KitFox oh yeah, that.
 
Totally my kind of woman.
 
4:25 PM
But now, not so much?
 
That I can't comment on.
Wouldn't be proper.
 
wink
 
3 mins ago, by Robusto
OK, may I suggest we now submit a proposal for EnglishUnderflow.SE?
We don't have to give up.
 
Sawt.
 
4:27 PM
Haha.
 
But isn’t Linguistics.SE EnglishOverflow?
middles
 
EnglishUnderflow has a lower GPM rating.
 
I think you could post on ELL a fuller, more specific site definition with perhaps some success. If we demonstrated a clearer plan, they might reopen it.
 
@cornbreadninja Yeah he's cute.
 
@Cerberus I know, right? :x
 
4:29 PM
He should shave, though.
 
@Cerberus yes. -_-
 
Yay!
 
Is the cuteness a matter of delivery?
That is, is it what he is saying?
Or just his physical aspect?
 
I had seen other videos of his, so I'm biased.
 
Or both, or neither?
 
4:30 PM
In other words, if we said "We will put all SWRs on ELL, all verb agreement questions on ELL, all which article? when article? which preposition? questions would go on ELL."
 
A combination.
 
@Cerberus I had only watched the newest one.
I like his Diary of a Madman Ozzy picture, though.
 
Some SWRs are worthy. Most are not.
 
I saw this video about his synaesthesia.
@cornbreadninja Hmm where?
I'm a bit over Ozzy, sorry.
 
@Cerberus EL&U profile
 
4:31 PM
Ah.
 
@Cerberus The Eighth Deadly Syn.
 
The Eight Colourful Virtue!
 
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Q: better aphorism for "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"

dbasemanSometimes you may want to cite the piece of wisdom, that an asset that you actually possess is more valuable than those which may have been promised to you at some future time; ie, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. This phrase is widely used and understood; but it seems antiquated and...

A hand in the bush ...?
 
Oh God.
 
Who starred that stupid question?
 
4:33 PM
Is worth 15–20 in the slammer.
 
Talk about obscenity.
 
Certainly not I.
 
@Cerberus What else is there to talk about, really?
 
@Mitch, generally.
 
@Robusto um - I starred your suggested alternative because I thot it was funny.
 
4:34 PM
@FumbleFingers Ya missed.
 
@FumbleFingers You missed.
 
Jinx.
 
@Robusto Ugg trying to think of something...
 
i don't understand. how can I star the question by starring a message here?
oic forget that
 
@FumbleFingers Undo the star and click the star on the comment below the question box.
 
4:35 PM
@FumbleFingers You can fix the starboard. Unstar the accident and restar the right one.
 
Jinx again.
Bravo!
 
it's still funny
 
You’re just stalking me.
 
You're just stalking me.
Jinx!
 
Can you think of a rhyme for “laugh”?
 
4:36 PM
Half.
 
Naff.
 
scarf
 
Quaff.
 
nope
 
Calf.
@tchrist Nuh-uh. "Nope" rhymes with "Pope" ...
 
4:37 PM
not naff or quaff in my dialect
 
Jelly Bean makes your Android device even more responsive by boosting your device's CPU instantly when you touch the screen, and turns it down when you don't need it to improve battery life.
 
staff calf
 
@thavan No commercials in chat, please.
 
@FumbleFingers Wow, really? "Laugh" and "scarf"?
 
@Gigili He has a speech impediment. Don’t tease him.
 
4:38 PM
@Gigili standard SE UK accent, yes
 
jinx
 
@Gigili Yes, that is RP, the best accent ever.
 
@FumbleFingers And "ass" rhymes with "farce" ...
 
It's not commercial. I have a question on that
 
The Queen speaks it too.
 
4:40 PM
@thavan Could you state that as a question, please?
 
actually, they still rhyme in standard UK northern accent - both short a's there
 
@thavan He's joking.
 
@Cerberus Speaking of the Queen ... the Queen is not a subject.
 
Prepositional object.
 
Congratulations @Rob, your word has been chosen. You won a prize.
 
4:41 PM
@Gigili Er, which word?
 
@Robusto Indeed not! She is the subicient!
 
Half.
 
Verrah good.
What did I win?
 
turns it down when you don't need it to improve battery life. I read it continuously and it made a false impression. Do we need to put a comma next to when?
 
4:43 PM
@thavan It's ambiguous without the comma, but most people will understand what is meant.
 
I think a comma would bother me there.
 
An iChat,or iWhateveryouwish.
 
@thavan No, you need a comma after "it"! You're reading it incorrectly, because they did not punctuate it correctly.
 
@thavan I would recast the sentence as "... turns it down to improve battery life when you don't need it."
 
4:44 PM
@thavan I would say and turns it down when you don't need it, in order to improve battery life.
 
You might also specify "performance" instead of the pronoun "it" ...
 
Because that's what it means.
 
Thank you @everyone-who-suggested-a-rhyme.
 
@Cerberus You would take that tack.
 
There is no sentence that is not improved by s/\bin order to\b/to/gi.
 
4:45 PM
@Robusto ? I would indeed.
 
Ok
 
No flaunting Queens in this chat.
 
...you don't need it to improve battery life is obviously wrong.
 
4:46 PM
 
That means that the CPU is not needed to improve battery life, which is nonsense.
 
The last one is piercingly poignant.
 
No dueling Queens in this chat either.
 
@KitFox Well, make one of them leave then.
 
The construction is and turns it down...in order to improve battery life.
 
4:49 PM
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Q: A vitrous exercise--defining glasses

user28548There are glass glasses and plastic glasses; mugs and cups; steins and schooners; and so on. What makes a glass a tumbler?

Thihs one has to win a prize.
 
Just one?
 
At least one.
Such a beautiful segway there.
 
It plays better to Raindrops on Roses and Whiskers on Kittens.
 
@tchrist I think you mean My Favorite Things — and before you start dissing that song, remember that it was covered by none other than John Fucking Coltrane.
 
@Robusto Who were they?
 
4:52 PM
Stop trying to rattle my cage.
John William Coltrane (also known as "Trane"; September 23, 1926 – July 17, 1967) was an American jazz saxophonist and composer. Working in the bebop and hard bop idioms early in his career, Coltrane helped pioneer the use of modes in jazz and later was at the forefront of free jazz. He organized at least fifty recording sessions as a leader during his recording career, and appeared as a sideman on many other albums, notably with trumpeter Miles Davis and pianist Thelonious Monk. As his career progressed, Coltrane and his music took on an increasingly spiritual dimension. His sec...
Anyhoo, lunch.
 
I assumed that it was an active participial phrase.
In which John fucked Coltrane.
Hence they.
 
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Q: Difference between these ridiculously similar words

kamal Glimpse Gaze Stare Glance Peep Peer Blink Make out Weep Wink a. Close the eyelids rapidly (blink) b. Have quick look (glanced) c. Look closely at (gaze) d. See briefly (glimpsed) e. Look at steadily in surprise or admiration (peer) f. Look at intently ...

 
5:12 PM
Bugger.
 
@tchrist specifically, here, no. and actually generally no also. I might annoyingly star something then unstar it, but that's the extent of my outre starring behavior.
 
@tchrist stop that
 
@JSBձոգչ Trivial: just stare intensely at its center from about four feet away. Under no circumstances look anywhere else. So long as you do that, it will stop.
 
Google Ngram Viewer's underlying data preserves punctuation as words. For example, you can compare the 1-gram { fulltime } with the 3-gram { full , - , time } with this search. — MετάEd 1 min ago
 
5:36 PM
This is another painfully basic question I could spend an hour writing a smashing answer to:
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Q: Direct object "it" in final position... grammatical?

Emanuelin a video a native speaker of English said: I gotta show you something... it is important. I need to show you it. I am not a native speaker and this last sentence sounds extremely weird to me. I asked 2 English natives (both British), one of whom said it is ok and the other that it is wron...

But I shan’t.
 
@tchrist You won't explain him it?
 
$job.
Pretty sure I’ve never explained anybody anything.
 
! my $job ?
 
No, I am busy with $dayjob. No time.
 
Hello
 
5:39 PM
!today()
 
Is ellipt a verb?
 
@Meysam as in "to elide"?
 
no
ellipt
If it's a verb, why does it not exist in dictionary?
han?
chera vaghan?
 
Use it in a sentence.
 
5:42 PM
ok
 
@Meysam What does it mean?
 
we tend not to ellipt when speaking to very young children
 
Ah! I looked it up in OAAD and couldn't find it. Turns out OAAD is not a good dictionary at all.
 
I wouldn't use that word if I were you
I'd use "elide"
 
5:46 PM
given that it's not a word
 
no, it is a word.
There are google books references, in linguistics texts no less
just not a whole lot of them
 
But I just saw a native speaker use that:
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A: Who is that for?

Edwin AshworthFifty years ago, someone would have pointed out that: Prepositions should never be used as the last words in sentences. 'Who', governed by 'for' although not obviously so in this sentence, should be in the accusative case and thus be replaced by its variant 'whom'. They would probably have d...

Today, about 100% of native speakers would use "Who is that for?" (we tend not to ellipt when speaking to very young children), or, as you say, "Who's that for?"
 
elide is millions of times more popular
and most of those uses of "ellipt" are short forms for "elliptical".
I would say "elllipt" is an error.
I guess if pressed I'd agree with @Mitch that it isn't really a word. Not a standard word, anyway.
 
Can we consider a native speaker who uses "ellipt" as a verb, an illiterate person?
 
@Meysam Literacy is unrelated to the matter.
 
This is a rather curious case of what we were discussing yesterday.
 
Can we assume this person is coming from country, if not being illiterate?
 
@tchrist do you support his changing "what we get is" into "what we get are"?
 
@Meysam No. But we can consider that they don't know the word "elide". Or they heard someone else use "ellipt". It is a logical back-formation from elliptical.
 
5:53 PM
@RegDwighт looking
 
@Meysam I wouldn't assume anything. The word "elide" itself is not used that often in my experience.
 
What is get is the following list of things:
is is more normal.
But "These are what we get:".
 
Some of his edits I actually agree with; most others are meh; but this one really sticks out. I don't think anybody would actually say "What we get are" to introduce a list.
 
The short answer is "no, not really".
It presupposes a plural what, or something.
 
It's really weird.
Not sure why he edited it at all.
 
5:55 PM
Google Books has plenty of "what we get are", but they are not a real list.
> What we get are human interest stories about terrorized children and women.
 
@RegDwighт What a total waste of an edit
 
> If what we do is withdraw and hide, what we get are loneliness and an ever- deepening sense that we are not likable.
> By contrast, at Mr. D's, what we get are titties in the wild.
 
@tchrist yeah, that's different.
What you have here is an actual list. You'd read it as: "So what we get is one: blah, two: blah".
 
@RegDwighт I don't support it. I know you didn't ask me. But it sounds unnatural to me.
 
@Meysam No. To make the back-formation from ellipsis, they are at a well-educated level. It's a logical inference, just not a 'real word'. Elide is the word they were thinking of. Just what @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 is saying.
 
5:57 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah I asked Tom specifically because he was the most avid proponent of plural yesterday.
@Kit would probably just laugh.
Since she uses singular anyway.
 
I wouldn't laugh. It's not even funny.
 
People will go to great lengths just to remove an upvote.
(I honestly have no idea what other reason is even possible, let alone probable.)
 

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