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z7sg

23:00

@Kit What are you now a lupine zoologist?

I'm playing catchup here, I go away for a couple days and everything changes.

RegDwight

Well, everything is a stretch.

Kit

Lupinus

Lupinus, commonly known as Lupins or lupines (North America), is a genus in the legume family (Fabaceae). The genus comprises about 280 species (Hughes), with major centers of diversity in South and western North America (Subgen. Platycarpos (Wats.) Kurl.), and the Andes and secondary centers in the Mediterranean region and Africa (Subgen. Lupinus). Description The species are mostly herbaceous perennial plants tall, but some are annual plants and a few are shrubs up to 3 m (10 ft) tall—see also bush lupin—with one species (Lupinus jaimehintoniana from the Mex...

RegDwight

A tall order.

A generalization.

z7sg

Damn, should it be vulpine.

RegDwight

It's never vulpus!

z7sg

23:01

Lupine is for wolves, confusingly.

Kit

►

RegDwight

How is that confusing?

I thought Dr. House explained it to everyone across the world once and for all.

z7sg

Your life or your lupins!!!

Cerberus

@Reg: Kluge seems to say that it is the same pronominal stem as in hoy... I am rather convinced that it is?

> heute Adv std. (8. Jh.), mhd. hiute, ahd. hiutu, hiuto, as. hiudu Stammwort. Wie afr. hiūdega, hiūde, hiōda, ae. hēodæg aus * **hiu** dagu "an diesem Tag" zusammengewachsen. **Der gleiche Pronominalstamm g. * hi- "dieser"** erscheint in gt. himma daga "heute" und und hina dag "bis heute" (bis zu diesem Tag). **Außergermanisch** entspricht morphologisch gr. tḗmeron, gr. (ep., ion., hell.) sḗmeron "heute" aus * ḱi- und dem griechischen Wort für "Tag"; mit anderen Stämmen **l. hodiē.** Der Pronominalstamm ig. * ḱi- erscheint auch in l. cis "diesseits", l. citrō "hierher" usw., air. cē "hier,…

RegDwight

Um. He says something completely different right there.

Latin cis "diesseits"

Cerberus

23:04

Really?

Also hodie...

RegDwight

Mit anderen Stämmen

With a different root we have a different word. OMG. Mind = blown.

Seriously though, I am too tired to parse that right now.

Cerberus

Yes, different stem, but same root? I am not entirely familiar with German etymological terminology... but I think it is the same PIE root.

Pronominal stem he-/hi- comes from PIE *so-...

RegDwight

That I don't see anywhere in the quote at all...

MrHen

Eesh... these wars are beating the crap out of me :P

RegDwight

But hey, the thing is, as I said, heute comes from hiu dagu, which obviously wasn't pronounced anywhere as hoy.

Cerberus

23:09

I happen to know that... I could link you to Pokorny and the OED, but I'm terribly drunk and tired. Let's battle the outside world first. Who have you/we decided to focus our energy on?

We aren't really close in any of those wars...

RegDwight

So if it comes from hodie, then it changed from o to i and then back to o.

Cerberus

But if we make a concerted effort we might win one.

RegDwight

Yeah, but which one? A fourth one has been declared...

MrHen

Ack, really?

Cerberus

@RegDwight No I didn't mean it came from hodie: just that they came from the same PIE roots, *so- + *dyew-.

RegDwight

23:10

The Soviet Union is not an option anymore. They seem very serious about getting their revenge.

Cerberus

Hehe.

MrHen

I changed up my defense deck a bit because, apparently, it sucked

Cerberus

We did beat them rather nicely, didn't we?

RegDwight

@MrHen Haha. Glad you noticed. :P

Cerberus

@MrHen What are you using?

RegDwight

23:11

Seriously though, no sweat.

Cerberus

This mine.

RegDwight

That one got posted like thrice today.

Cerberus

Hehe.

Hey, I am drunk.

RegDwight

So?

Cerberus

That doesn't help with memory things and all.

RegDwight

23:12

"Hey, I am like always!"

Semi Croustillants are freaking hard.

That Trident spam is... bah!

Cerberus

Are they? Let me try... we could focus on jj.

RegDwight

@Cerberus JJ are my first pick, except that they are actively fighting.

They were at like 1300 just a few minutes ago, now it's 1500.

We could easily get to 1500 ourselves, but they'd probably march on, too.

Cerberus

I have 70 stamina.

RegDwight

Of course, what we could do would be just say, screw all four of them, that's -4 points, so what, let us start a war of our own

And focus on that one.

Cerberus

Could get ~300 out of that.

Well... I dunno.

RegDwight

23:15

You know what? I'll look for a prey...

Cerberus

Couldn't we just take those crispy guys?

RegDwight

Well, you could.

MrHen

@Cerberus Nothing interesting. I lack defense cards

Cerberus

I can beat them.

RegDwight

I noticed that.

MrHen

23:16

Right now I just switched it to something different

Cerberus

@MrHen Hmm... if only I could look into your cards...

RegDwight

@Cerberus Well... okay. Knock yourself out.

Cerberus

I'm not saying that would work...

If they fight back...

RegDwight

9 hours ago, by MrHen

I wish we could just look at the defense decks on our team

MrHen

@Cerberus Well, we can play 20 questions :)

I am new at defending... :(

Cerberus

23:16

Hehe.

z7sg

Ah, @MrHen, not you as well?!

MrHen

The only defense decks I have seen are the ones from Arena

RegDwight

@Cerberus That's my reasoning as well. If we just kick off a new war, that's some 500 points for us right away and... who knows if the other side ever fights back at all.

MrHen

@z7sg I like games. :)

Cerberus

Hey I will post some tips I got in chat. But they are sort of less useful if you don't have the cards...

MrHen

23:17

I have 93/111 of the standards

Cerberus

@RegDwight I say at least postpone that until we're at full stamina? Or are you?

MrHen

and mostly nothing from the expansions

Cerberus

Not from Enclave?

z7sg

It was incomprehensible in here before but all this stuff... you guys might as well be speaking Greek I would understand just as much.

MrHen

13/50 Enclave

Explorer

23:18

who's moderator here?

Rhodri

@z7sg Don't worry, we can look pityingly down on them

RegDwight

Okay, I have started a new war. Screw the rest.

aedia

@z7sg I'm back! Well, on my phone, commuting. Don't worry, on a bus, not driving.

Rhodri

@Explorer That would be the one who started the war.

z7sg

@Rhodri Yeah let's do that.

Cerberus

23:19

> You will have 3 cards with counter 2, they will stop rush decks. You have 3 1-drop strike cards, those finish the Rush deck after the counter cards stop the first wave (reply)
Isfan: 3 cards with evade, those stop strike and weaken decks. Pummeller and Omega are your siege, that'll be your weakness

RegDwight

@Rhodri Well, technically the Ukrainian mass murderer put me in that mood...

MrHen

Hey, my new D deck is 1/1!

Better than 1/21

RegDwight

Also, Boob knows very well who's who here.

MrHen

:(

Cerberus

@z7sg We apologize! It is just that three evil factions have declared war on our hub of righteousness and we needed to come up with some strategy...

Explorer

23:20

@Rhodri and how can I threaten that person to beat up?

z7sg

@aedia You commute by bus? A special magic rainbow bus?

MrHen

@RegDwight So I am attacking the Nexus Power people?

aedia

Can't fly all the time. It frightens the childrens.

z7sg

@Cerberus It's ok, it's just bizarre sounding stuff if you don't know what it all means!

RegDwight

@MrHen Ayup.

MrHen

23:21

Okay

sigh I feel so weak...

What decks have you seen?

Cerberus

@z7sg Join the game!

kongregate.com/games/synapticon/tyrant

MrHen

Also, what is your attack deck?

Vitaly

I dunno what I am doing, I am just bumping around in-game

RegDwight

@MrHen Nothing you can't beat with your bloodthirsty spam.

MrHen

(s)

Rhodri

23:23

Sigh. Right at the moment I might as well join in.

Vitaly

>.<

RegDwight

My attack deck is still the same.

Cerberus

@MrHen If you like, I could look at your cards... but I can understand that you wouldn't like doing that (though I could ban your account anyway, being a mod, muwahaha...)

aedia

Goedenavond @Cerberus

Cerberus

@Vitaly You're playing with us? Yay!

MrHen

23:24

@Cerberus You mean by logging in? I'd rather not :)

Vitaly

@Cerberus — Nope, I just registered a couple hours ago

Cerberus

@MrHen I use the same for both. I don't have enough cards to make two good decks.

@MrHen Understandable.

Rhodri

It's gone midnight, I've got tomorrow's demo running (limping), it's raining, I'm on my bike, and I didn't bring a coat. I'm going to get soaked.

RegDwight

@Cerberus Oh my. He's Dutch, he's drunk, and he's got mod powers at a war game.

Vitaly

and I am already frustrated with the energy refilling thing

MrHen

23:24

Is Daemon any good?

RegDwight

@Rhodri Hold on, you're posting this while on your bike??

aedia

Dear me chat is so buggy on my phone. It keeps my inputted text inputted. I am afraid I am going to repeat myself.

RegDwight

Feb 25 at 16:25, by RegDwight

It's very dangerous to start wondering about anything while on a bicycle.

Cerberus

@Vitaly Yay! At first the game can seem a bit random. And, yes, the enegry thing sucks; on the other hand, it forces you to not play all the time, which is good for work, etc...

Rhodri

@RegDwight No, I'm still in the office.

Cerberus

23:26

@Rhodri I am with you, buddy! Mentally, at least.

aedia

@reg Bus!

Cerberus

@MrHen It is OK. Not bad.

Rhodri

@Cerberus I'm not sure I'm anywhere mentally right now.

aedia

Oh, nm. Carry on.

RegDwight

Mental Nowhere™

Cerberus

23:26

@RegDwight I can destroy the world! Good thing we're a trading nation...

RegDwight

Prachtig.

MrHen

Gah, forget to turn off autoplay...

Won anyway...

RegDwight

Haha. NOOB ALERT!!

Sorry, PRO NOOB ALERT!!

MrHen

Hm. One of their decks is empty.

Rhodri

@RegDwight Last time I wondered anything while cycling, I was wondering why it was so windy. Apparently we were having a hurricane :-)

Cerberus

23:27

@Rhodri Why not lie down and take a nap before going home? Who cares, if it will give you some breathing room...

@RegDwight HEY I SAY THAT TOO.

Rhodri

I just need to email my boss with the gory details.

Cerberus

@MrHen Screenshot and post the decks you use in here so we can have a look?

Use Zizors, an extremely fast and easy screenshot program. Automatically posts to the internet.

z7sg

Hmm it's 00:30 and I'm going to drink some beer before bed. Have a nice evening all! :)

MrHen

@Cerberus Sure.

They are sort of in the process of trying new things because old things didn't work :P

Cerberus

autohotkey.com/forum/topic70759.html

@z7sg Happy drinking!

@MrHen That's always a bad idea!

MrHen

23:30

@Cerberus Well, it couldn't get worse than my old defense, I guess :P

That's my attack

Not happy with Omega there, but I don't have anything else for that slot

Cerberus

warmetal.wikia.com/wiki/Deck_Building

MrHen

Oh, actually, I have a third asylum now

RegDwight

@Rhodri Yeah I like those gushes of fresh air. Especially when they come frome the side. One moment I am riding 40mph on a straight empty road, the next moment I am still riding the exact same 40 mph in the exact same direction except 3 yards to the left or the right of the road.

Cerberus

@MrHen Not bad! Might work against some decks, fail against others. Omega is generally a fine card.

@RegDwight Or towards the bottom of the canal.

MrHen

@Cerberus I needed something with siege

And it being raider clears up the rallies

So I am happy enough with it

RegDwight

23:32

@MrHen You don't have any Strike Alls? EMPs, Multi-Strikes, Death from Above, anything?

MrHen

@RegDwight I took them out when using it for Defense

Cerberus

Well... 1 siege isn't much... if that's the only reason you picked him, better give up on siege.

MrHen

@Cerberus Yeah, I am realizing that :)

RegDwight

Try Poseidon if you have him.

Healing, anti-air, siege.

Cerberus

Read the link above for general deck building strategies.

Strike is excellent on defense as well.

MrHen

23:33

I do have EMP x4; Air Strike x1; Death from Above x1;

Cerberus

Add EMP!

RegDwight

Oh my. He has four EMPs and he's not using them!

Cerberus

Add 2 if using it for attack only...

RegDwight

Cerberus barely has one!

MrHen

Mmk

Cerberus

23:34

I know! Cost me 25 wb.

MrHen

@Cerberus Not in that deck it wasn't :P

Mmk

RegDwight

I only got my fourth like yesterday, and that lucky chap got them at level 13!

Cerberus

Damn you people.

I don't have Silos either.

MrHen

@RegDwight Yeah, I pulled them all in packs :)

RegDwight

I have one. One Silos.

MrHen

23:34

I have one silo

RegDwight

But Silos suck unless you have tons of them.

MrHen

@RegDwight I've noticed :P

RegDwight

If you have just one Silo, it's useless. Too slow in an attack deck, and you have no control when it gets played on defense.

MrHen

My current defense tries to hack it anyway

Vitaly

how do you get warbonds anyway?

RegDwight

23:35

You should have some right from the start.

Then you have a daily chance.

MrHen

@Vitaly Via Kreds

Vitaly

a daily chance?

MrHen

Which you pay for

Also daily chance

Cerberus

Hey what do you think about X-5 Penetrator? Too slow, I think...

RegDwight

Forget kreds. Nobody has enough money for them.

Cerberus

23:36

MrHen

Cerberus

And at every game update, which happens once every few weeks, you get 25 WB.

MrHen

Current defense deck

RegDwight

@Cerberus As soon as I have just one Tiamat out, or two other strike cards, all your X-5 are belong to death.

MrHen

@RegDwight You can't have more than one Tiamat?

Cerberus

23:37

@MrHen Better not use more than 1 action card on defense. If you pull one first turn, you lose.

RegDwight

Yeah, it's unique.

Cerberus

@RegDwight Yeah, agreed. I never bought him. But he looks so hot!

MrHen

@Cerberus On defense, they typically play first, ya?

RegDwight

I was emphasizing the fact that I only need that one card plus Atlas to get 3 strike points per turn.

Cerberus

@MrHen No more than one in one deck.

MrHen

23:38

@Cerberus Mmk

Cerberus

@MrHen No: I always surge, and most people do, unless they absolutely can't beat your deck, which is rare.

Vitaly

damn… I registered and all this talk still sounds completely bonkers to me. Bother!

Cerberus

You will learn!

MrHen

@Cerberus Ah, I see

Cerberus

@Vitaly I guarantee the game is atheistically acceptable!

Just look the other way when the opponent plays an Immortal.

RegDwight

23:40

Okay folks, talk is cheap, how about actually kicking some buttocks?

I thought you had 70 stamina, @Cerberus?

Cerberus

Right...

RegDwight

Now it should be more like 90.

MrHen

Well, gotta go. Thanks for the tips :)

Cerberus

OK, good luck! And read those deck-building strats.

warmetal.wikia.com/wiki/Deck_Building

@RegDwight 95

Vitaly

@Cerberus white on black

RegDwight

23:42

@Cerberus See, five more minutes and you would start wasting it!

Cerberus

I could instead watch how the new war goes and first kick some crispy butt...

@Vitaly Please don't refer to sexual websites here.

@RegDwight By the way, you did notice that X-5 has Evade?

RegDwight

Yeah. Doesn't matter unless you spam him.

Cerberus

?

RegDwight

Unless you use ten of him.

One card with four health and three wait? Toast. Give or take evade.

Cerberus

I kind of agree that he is just too slow considering his hp; but otherwise... I'd use him in conjunction with Niaq, Colossus, Bulldozer, and Pummler, who all have Evade.

Yeah.

RegDwight

23:47

Speaking of toast, go fight in some war. Don't waste your precious stamina like that.

Cerberus

By the way, Bulldozer is easy to get.

I just killed one guy.

He was spamming Vamps + Asyla...

RegDwight

Feb 18 at 17:59, by RegDwight

Expect this to be quoted.

Cerberus

Not easy to beat for my sluggish deck.

Quote this:

I will kill many more!

RegDwight

@Cerberus Easy enough for mine. But one of them crispies has Trident spam. Gah.

Cerberus

I can take Trident spam, though that is't easy either.

RegDwight

23:49

Anyhow, let me just quote a Russian proverb.

Cerberus

Do you know why Bulldozer is so good?

RegDwight

You try to catch two hares at once, you will catch none.

Cerberus

I seem to recall a similar saying about birds...

But I cannot deny its truth, however much I should like to.

If you're at 0 attack or lower, you will not be weakened.

That is why Rally 3 is better than 3 attack. Bulldozer is great against Bloodpool/Bloodwall/Dracorex spam.

He is easy to get.

RegDwight

What is that Raiders Unite achievement anyway?

Can't find it in the list.

Cerberus

Play at least 1 each of Mobile Magnacannon, Fury Walker, Scropinox, Hydroblade and APC in mission 64 and win.

It's hard to find, on the achievements list.

RegDwight

23:55

I don't see it at all.

Cerberus

And I spelled it wrong: Raider's Unite.

RegDwight

And I've never heard of Magnacannon.

Cerberus

Neither had I... but I did have it.

RegDwight

And I don't think I have Scorpinox.

Cerberus

Type it in in your card thingy.

I think you do...

You get that one early.

RegDwight

23:56

Actually, I have two.

Cerberus

Hehe.

RegDwight

Okay, lemme put this one together. BRB.

Cerberus

Good luck!

Mr. Disappointment

Am I the only one lagging behind in this card game carry on?

Cerberus

@RegDwight This is what I used.

@MrDisappointment Lagging behind?

RegDwight

23:57

I don't have Yurich.

Cerberus

Then just play more!

@RegDwight Then use Atlas.

RegDwight

@MrDisappointment Well, you're level 6, arencha?

Cerberus

Kill people!

Mr. Disappointment

@Cerberus Not enough hours in the day!

RegDwight

Seven, actually.

Mr. Disappointment

23:58

@RegDwight Affirmative.

Cerberus

Make more hours!

RegDwight

Feb 25 at 16:40, by RegDwight

I can't be on every site 25/8!

Cerberus

@RegDwight By the way, if I remember correctly, the achievement wasn't terribly hard to get. Just make sure you actually play all those cards.

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