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11:00 PM

@Kit What are you now a lupine zoologist?

I'm playing catchup here, I go away for a couple days and everything changes.

Well, everything is a stretch.

Lupinus, commonly known as Lupins or lupines (North America), is a genus in the legume family (Fabaceae). The genus comprises about 280 species (Hughes), with major centers of diversity in South and western North America (Subgen. Platycarpos (Wats.) Kurl.), and the Andes and secondary centers in the Mediterranean region and Africa (Subgen. Lupinus). Description The species are mostly herbaceous perennial plants tall, but some are annual plants and a few are shrubs up to 3 m (10 ft) tall—see also bush lupin—with one species (Lupinus jaimehintoniana from the Mex...

A tall order.

A generalization.

Damn, should it be vulpine.

It's never vulpus!

11:01 PM

Lupine is for wolves, confusingly.

How is that confusing?

I thought Dr. House explained it to everyone across the world once and for all.

Your life or your lupins!!!

@Reg: Kluge seems to say that it is the same pronominal stem as in hoy... I am rather convinced that it is?

> heute Adv std. (8. Jh.), mhd. hiute, ahd. hiutu, hiuto, as. hiudu Stammwort. Wie afr. hiūdega, hiūde, hiōda, ae. hēodæg aus * **hiu** dagu "an diesem Tag" zusammengewachsen. **Der gleiche Pronominalstamm g. * hi- "dieser"** erscheint in gt. himma daga "heute" und und hina dag "bis heute" (bis zu diesem Tag). **Außergermanisch** entspricht morphologisch gr. tḗmeron, gr. (ep., ion., hell.) sḗmeron "heute" aus * ḱi- und dem griechischen Wort für "Tag"; mit anderen Stämmen **l. hodiē.** Der Pronominalstamm ig. * ḱi- erscheint auch in l. cis "diesseits", l. citrō "hierher" usw., air. cē "hier,…

Um. He says something completely different right there.

Latin cis "diesseits"

11:04 PM

Really?

Also hodie...

Mit anderen Stämmen

With a different root we have a different word. OMG. Mind = blown.

Seriously though, I am too tired to parse that right now.

Yes, different stem, but same root? I am not entirely familiar with German etymological terminology... but I think it is the same PIE root.

Pronominal stem he-/hi- comes from PIE *so-...

That I don't see anywhere in the quote at all...

Eesh... these wars are beating the crap out of me :P

But hey, the thing is, as I said, heute comes from hiu dagu, which obviously wasn't pronounced anywhere as hoy.

11:09 PM

I happen to know that... I could link you to Pokorny and the OED, but I'm terribly drunk and tired. Let's battle the outside world first. Who have you/we decided to focus our energy on?

We aren't really close in any of those wars...

So if it comes from hodie, then it changed from o to i and then back to o.

But if we make a concerted effort we might win one.

Yeah, but which one? A fourth one has been declared...

Ack, really?

@RegDwight No I didn't mean it came from hodie: just that they came from the same PIE roots, *so- + *dyew-.

11:10 PM

The Soviet Union is not an option anymore. They seem very serious about getting their revenge.

Hehe.

I changed up my defense deck a bit because, apparently, it sucked

We did beat them rather nicely, didn't we?

@MrHen Haha. Glad you noticed. :P

@MrHen What are you using?

11:11 PM

Seriously though, no sweat.

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This mine.

That one got posted like thrice today.

Hehe.

Hey, I am drunk.

So?

That doesn't help with memory things and all.

11:12 PM

"Hey, I am like always!"

Semi Croustillants are freaking hard.

That Trident spam is... bah!

Are they? Let me try... we could focus on jj.

@Cerberus JJ are my first pick, except that they are actively fighting.

They were at like 1300 just a few minutes ago, now it's 1500.

We could easily get to 1500 ourselves, but they'd probably march on, too.

I have 70 stamina.

Of course, what we could do would be just say, screw all four of them, that's -4 points, so what, let us start a war of our own

And focus on that one.

Could get ~300 out of that.

Well... I dunno.

11:15 PM

You know what? I'll look for a prey...

Couldn't we just take those crispy guys?

Well, you could.

@Cerberus Nothing interesting. I lack defense cards

I can beat them.

I noticed that.

11:16 PM

Right now I just switched it to something different

@MrHen Hmm... if only I could look into your cards...

@Cerberus Well... okay. Knock yourself out.

I'm not saying that would work...

If they fight back...

9 hours ago, by MrHen

I wish we could just look at the defense decks on our team

@Cerberus Well, we can play 20 questions :)

I am new at defending... :(

11:16 PM

Hehe.

Ah, @MrHen, not you as well?!

The only defense decks I have seen are the ones from Arena

@Cerberus That's my reasoning as well. If we just kick off a new war, that's some 500 points for us right away and... who knows if the other side ever fights back at all.

@z7sg I like games. :)

Hey I will post some tips I got in chat. But they are sort of less useful if you don't have the cards...

11:17 PM

I have 93/111 of the standards

@RegDwight I say at least postpone that until we're at full stamina? Or are you?

and mostly nothing from the expansions

Not from Enclave?

It was incomprehensible in here before but all this stuff... you guys might as well be speaking Greek I would understand just as much.

13/50 Enclave

11:18 PM

who's moderator here?

@z7sg Don't worry, we can look pityingly down on them

Okay, I have started a new war. Screw the rest.

@z7sg I'm back! Well, on my phone, commuting. Don't worry, on a bus, not driving.

@Explorer That would be the one who started the war.

@Rhodri Yeah let's do that.

11:19 PM

> You will have 3 cards with counter 2, they will stop rush decks. You have 3 1-drop strike cards, those finish the Rush deck after the counter cards stop the first wave (reply)
Isfan: 3 cards with evade, those stop strike and weaken decks. Pummeller and Omega are your siege, that'll be your weakness

@Rhodri Well, technically the Ukrainian mass murderer put me in that mood...

Hey, my new D deck is 1/1!

Better than 1/21

Also, Boob knows very well who's who here.

:(

@z7sg We apologize! It is just that three evil factions have declared war on our hub of righteousness and we needed to come up with some strategy...

11:20 PM

@Rhodri and how can I threaten that person to beat up?

@aedia You commute by bus? A special magic rainbow bus?

@RegDwight So I am attacking the Nexus Power people?

Can't fly all the time. It frightens the childrens.

@Cerberus It's ok, it's just bizarre sounding stuff if you don't know what it all means!

@MrHen Ayup.

11:21 PM

Okay

sigh I feel so weak...

What decks have you seen?

@z7sg Join the game!

kongregate.com/games/synapticon/tyrant

Also, what is your attack deck?

I dunno what I am doing, I am just bumping around in-game

@MrHen Nothing you can't beat with your bloodthirsty spam.

(s)

11:23 PM

Sigh. Right at the moment I might as well join in.

>.<

My attack deck is still the same.

@MrHen If you like, I could look at your cards... but I can understand that you wouldn't like doing that (though I could ban your account anyway, being a mod, muwahaha...)

Goedenavond @Cerberus

@Vitaly You're playing with us? Yay!

11:24 PM

@Cerberus You mean by logging in? I'd rather not :)

@Cerberus — Nope, I just registered a couple hours ago

@MrHen I use the same for both. I don't have enough cards to make two good decks.

@MrHen Understandable.

It's gone midnight, I've got tomorrow's demo running (limping), it's raining, I'm on my bike, and I didn't bring a coat. I'm going to get soaked.

@Cerberus Oh my. He's Dutch, he's drunk, and he's got mod powers at a war game.

and I am already frustrated with the energy refilling thing

11:24 PM

Is Daemon any good?

@Rhodri Hold on, you're posting this while on your bike??

Dear me chat is so buggy on my phone. It keeps my inputted text inputted. I am afraid I am going to repeat myself.

Feb 25 at 16:25, by RegDwight

It's very dangerous to start wondering about anything while on a bicycle.

@Vitaly Yay! At first the game can seem a bit random. And, yes, the enegry thing sucks; on the other hand, it forces you to not play all the time, which is good for work, etc...

@RegDwight No, I'm still in the office.

11:26 PM

@Rhodri I am with you, buddy! Mentally, at least.

@reg Bus!

@MrHen It is OK. Not bad.

@Cerberus I'm not sure I'm anywhere mentally right now.

Oh, nm. Carry on.

Mental Nowhere™

11:26 PM

@RegDwight I can destroy the world! Good thing we're a trading nation...

Prachtig.

Gah, forget to turn off autoplay...

Won anyway...

Haha. NOOB ALERT!!

Sorry, PRO NOOB ALERT!!

Hm. One of their decks is empty.

@RegDwight Last time I wondered anything while cycling, I was wondering why it was so windy. Apparently we were having a hurricane :-)

11:27 PM

@Rhodri Why not lie down and take a nap before going home? Who cares, if it will give you some breathing room...

@RegDwight HEY I SAY THAT TOO.

I just need to email my boss with the gory details.

@MrHen Screenshot and post the decks you use in here so we can have a look?

Use Zizors, an extremely fast and easy screenshot program. Automatically posts to the internet.

Hmm it's 00:30 and I'm going to drink some beer before bed. Have a nice evening all! :)

@Cerberus Sure.

They are sort of in the process of trying new things because old things didn't work :P

autohotkey.com/forum/topic70759.html

@z7sg Happy drinking!

@MrHen That's always a bad idea!

11:30 PM

@Cerberus Well, it couldn't get worse than my old defense, I guess :P

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That's my attack

Not happy with Omega there, but I don't have anything else for that slot

warmetal.wikia.com/wiki/Deck_Building

Oh, actually, I have a third asylum now

@Rhodri Yeah I like those gushes of fresh air. Especially when they come frome the side. One moment I am riding 40mph on a straight empty road, the next moment I am still riding the exact same 40 mph in the exact same direction except 3 yards to the left or the right of the road.

@MrHen Not bad! Might work against some decks, fail against others. Omega is generally a fine card.

@RegDwight Or towards the bottom of the canal.

@Cerberus I needed something with siege

And it being raider clears up the rallies

So I am happy enough with it

11:32 PM

@MrHen You don't have any Strike Alls? EMPs, Multi-Strikes, Death from Above, anything?

@RegDwight I took them out when using it for Defense

Well... 1 siege isn't much... if that's the only reason you picked him, better give up on siege.

@Cerberus Yeah, I am realizing that :)

Try Poseidon if you have him.

Healing, anti-air, siege.

Read the link above for general deck building strategies.

Strike is excellent on defense as well.

11:33 PM

I do have EMP x4; Air Strike x1; Death from Above x1;

Add EMP!

Oh my. He has four EMPs and he's not using them!

Add 2 if using it for attack only...

Cerberus barely has one!

Mmk

11:34 PM

I know! Cost me 25 wb.

@Cerberus Not in that deck it wasn't :P

Mmk

I only got my fourth like yesterday, and that lucky chap got them at level 13!

Damn you people.

I don't have Silos either.

@RegDwight Yeah, I pulled them all in packs :)

I have one. One Silos.

11:34 PM

I have one silo

But Silos suck unless you have tons of them.

@RegDwight I've noticed :P

If you have just one Silo, it's useless. Too slow in an attack deck, and you have no control when it gets played on defense.

My current defense tries to hack it anyway

how do you get warbonds anyway?

11:35 PM

You should have some right from the start.

Then you have a daily chance.

@Vitaly Via Kreds

a daily chance?

Which you pay for

Also daily chance

Hey what do you think about X-5 Penetrator? Too slow, I think...

Forget kreds. Nobody has enough money for them.

11:36 PM

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And at every game update, which happens once every few weeks, you get 25 WB.

Current defense deck

@Cerberus As soon as I have just one Tiamat out, or two other strike cards, all your X-5 are belong to death.

@RegDwight You can't have more than one Tiamat?

11:37 PM

@MrHen Better not use more than 1 action card on defense. If you pull one first turn, you lose.

Yeah, it's unique.

@RegDwight Yeah, agreed. I never bought him. But he looks so hot!

@Cerberus On defense, they typically play first, ya?

I was emphasizing the fact that I only need that one card plus Atlas to get 3 strike points per turn.

@MrHen No more than one in one deck.

11:38 PM

@Cerberus Mmk

@MrHen No: I always surge, and most people do, unless they absolutely can't beat your deck, which is rare.

damn… I registered and all this talk still sounds completely bonkers to me. Bother!

You will learn!

@Cerberus Ah, I see

@Vitaly I guarantee the game is atheistically acceptable!

Just look the other way when the opponent plays an Immortal.

11:40 PM

Okay folks, talk is cheap, how about actually kicking some buttocks?

I thought you had 70 stamina, @Cerberus?

Right...

Now it should be more like 90.

Well, gotta go. Thanks for the tips :)

OK, good luck! And read those deck-building strats.

warmetal.wikia.com/wiki/Deck_Building

@RegDwight 95

@Cerberus white on black

11:42 PM

@Cerberus See, five more minutes and you would start wasting it!

I could instead watch how the new war goes and first kick some crispy butt...

@Vitaly Please don't refer to sexual websites here.

@RegDwight By the way, you did notice that X-5 has Evade?

Yeah. Doesn't matter unless you spam him.

?

Unless you use ten of him.

One card with four health and three wait? Toast. Give or take evade.

I kind of agree that he is just too slow considering his hp; but otherwise... I'd use him in conjunction with Niaq, Colossus, Bulldozer, and Pummler, who all have Evade.

Yeah.

11:47 PM

Speaking of toast, go fight in some war. Don't waste your precious stamina like that.

By the way, Bulldozer is easy to get.

I just killed one guy.

He was spamming Vamps + Asyla...

Feb 18 at 17:59, by RegDwight

Expect this to be quoted.

Not easy to beat for my sluggish deck.

Quote this:

I will kill many more!

@Cerberus Easy enough for mine. But one of them crispies has Trident spam. Gah.

I can take Trident spam, though that is't easy either.

11:49 PM

Anyhow, let me just quote a Russian proverb.

Do you know why Bulldozer is so good?

You try to catch two hares at once, you will catch none.

I seem to recall a similar saying about birds...

But I cannot deny its truth, however much I should like to.

If you're at 0 attack or lower, you will not be weakened.

That is why Rally 3 is better than 3 attack. Bulldozer is great against Bloodpool/Bloodwall/Dracorex spam.

He is easy to get.

What is that Raiders Unite achievement anyway?

Can't find it in the list.

Play at least 1 each of Mobile Magnacannon, Fury Walker, Scropinox, Hydroblade and APC in mission 64 and win.

It's hard to find, on the achievements list.

11:55 PM

I don't see it at all.

And I spelled it wrong: Raider's Unite.

And I've never heard of Magnacannon.

Neither had I... but I did have it.

And I don't think I have Scorpinox.

Type it in in your card thingy.

I think you do...

You get that one early.

11:56 PM

Actually, I have two.

Hehe.

Okay, lemme put this one together. BRB.

Good luck!

Mr. Disappointment

Am I the only one lagging behind in this card game carry on?

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@RegDwight This is what I used.

@MrDisappointment Lagging behind?

11:57 PM

I don't have Yurich.

Then just play more!

@RegDwight Then use Atlas.

@MrDisappointment Well, you're level 6, arencha?

Kill people!

Mr. Disappointment

@Cerberus Not enough hours in the day!

Seven, actually.

Mr. Disappointment

11:58 PM

@RegDwight Affirmative.

Make more hours!

Feb 25 at 16:40, by RegDwight

I can't be on every site 25/8!

@RegDwight By the way, if I remember correctly, the achievement wasn't terribly hard to get. Just make sure you actually play all those cards.

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