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George Pompidou

6:02 PM

what does it mean to signpost?

RegDwigнt

@KitFox Puckery? Oh noes, I think you mean a different Russian untranslatable.

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Q: What is the numb sensation in the mouth caused by some fruits called

There are some fruits* that cause a peculiar (unpleasant) numb sensation in the mouth. An unripe perssimon or a quince are two examples that come to mind. I can't describe the feeling any more eloquently so my bet/hope is that you will know what feeling I am talking about. Is there a word in Eng...

I know the exact single word... in Russian. Yandex translates it as the rather cumbersome "my mouth feels constricted/drawn", which doesn't actually sound like the same thing to boot. And needless to say, I've never heard anybody use either expression. The Russian word (вяжет [во рту]), on the other hand, is ubiquitous. Everyone knows and uses it. (Russians seem to have a dedicated word for everything happening in their mouths, another example being оскомина, which is recognized as untranslatable into English.) — RegDwigнt ♦ Oct 19 '13 at 15:10

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Location of places is geography.

KitFox

@RegDwigнt No. That's not puckering.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox then I misunderstand puckering.

I've never heard anyone use pucker to refer to toothache of any kind.

George Pompidou

why, I go to the dentist each time I have a pucker.

now you have.

RegDwigнt

6:04 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah, exactly, location, not random administrative BS that changes every couple years.

KitFox

@RegDwigнt It's not really a toothache.

But it's not a numb sensation either.

RegDwigнt

The location doesn't change if I call Toronto "Outer Brasilia".

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Right. So not knowing the names of the suburbs of a given city is a lack of geographical knowledge.

And a lack of municipal political knowledge.

Jasper Loy

@KitFox Hi! I am back again!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt The name of the thing also falls under geography.

@JasperLoy You're not dead! yay

KitFox

6:07 PM

@JasperLoy Hello.

Anonymous

Part of speech

In grammar, a part of speech (also called a word class, lexical class or lexical category) is a type of word. (The word lexical means "relating to the vocabulary of a language"). There are many different lexical categories, but the most common ones are the following: == References... ==

Anonymous

I thought Article was a Part of speech, not Interjection.

JSBձոգչ

@bivoc both of them are

Anonymous

@JSBձոգչ Any ideas why it was not mentioned?

user116848

@JasperLoy Hello there. Long time no see :)

Anonymous

6:13 PM

There is no way that Interjection is more common as part of speech, than an Article is

Jasper Loy

@Arrowfar Why did you change your picture?

user116848

@JasperLoy Some user told me to :( But I won't say who

user116848

@JasperLoy But I will change it back most probably :D

user116848

How is your OCD?

Jasper Loy

Nothing new to report.

RegDwigнt

6:18 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 exactly. So if I give you a map and ask you, "show me Moscow", I expect you to point to it. I do not expect you to draw this shit:

Jul 12 '13 at 10:54, by RegDwighт

Jasper Loy

The fox left after saying hello.

RegDwigнt

Nobody can draw this shit. Including the people who came up with it. And certainly no geographer in the world entire. Not a one.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt I'm not sure what we're arguing about anymore?

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt And yet someone has.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Was anyone ever?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus someone. Or some*thing*

Cerberus

6:21 PM

Oh noes!

If companies are people, then...

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I am not arguing but saying that a geographer is someone who sees some sand and says, "hey there's a desert here". That's what "geographer" means. A geographer is not someone who draws a line in the sand and then goes, "here be Tchad, here be Egypt, and here be Greater Toronto".

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен Boo!

Due to a bug I already have 100 association bonus on Eng.

user116848

@Cerberus How are you Cerbs :)

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus and we have no way of saying if he just made it up on the spot, and could re-make it up identically if asked again.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt That's what geogrpaher means. But not what geography means.

tchrist

6:24 PM

@bivoc I think you have a grave misunderstanding here. There can be no single right answer enumerating what “the parts of speech” (POS) there are. It wholly depends on who’s doing the enumerating and what their purpose in doing so is.

@bivoc This ranges from the original classical set of 8 POS to the Penn set of 36 POS to the NUPOS set of 223 different POS.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 so if I go to Toronto to study geography, they will teach me all about the administrative divisions of Moscow? Here is fifty bucks saying they won't.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt No. And I never said they would.

RegDwigнt

But then I can't study geography in Toronto!

And I was getting my hopes all up...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

You'd need a visa

RegDwigнt

I have diner's.

tchrist

6:26 PM

Or American Express.

RegDwigнt

Jinx.-

tchrist

I was editing.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Sorry. Neither of those is everywhere you want to be.

tchrist

I need to assign Jinx! to a function key.

Then I need to get some function keys.

Or maybe the other order.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I only need it to be in the one place I'm in.

tchrist

6:27 PM

@RegDwigнt Then you are merely a demon, not a god.

As that is the difference between the two.

A god can be in more than one place at the same time, but a demon cannot.

RegDwigнt

"Honey, where's my credit card?" "Why, in Morocco and on the South Pole, of course!"

George Pompidou

so, what does "signposting" mean?

skullpatrol

Look it up

RegDwigнt

Putting signs up, I'd wager.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist In what system?

George Pompidou

6:29 PM

"i entirely agree with you. i was signposting @George's reaction" @JSBձոգչ

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Celcius.

skullpatrol

Even a half bright twelve year old can do that

George Pompidou

put up signs?

I think many people can put up signs, but clearly this is irrelevant here.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Or in the South Pole. Or at the South Pole. Or out the South Pole. Or under the South Pole. Or chez the South Pole. Which one is being correct?

RegDwigнt

@tchrist instead of the South Pole.

George Pompidou

6:30 PM

is this going to get removed? I'm thinking of helping the poor guy out.

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou yeah wevs.

You can't make people guess with no context, then say "haha, here's the context, you totally lose!". That is what the main site is for.

George Pompidou

there should be a notice when posting to direct all ELL people to ELL site.

it's kind of ridiculous how many here belong there.

Jasper Loy

Hi @GeorgePompidou are you a new chat user? Never seen you before.

RegDwigнt

Law of large numbers.

Go get OVER 9000 hits a day, see how many of them are native speakers.

George Pompidou

just looked up all the badges and privileges thing and I'm one upvote away from a Good Answer

shiny George

@JasperLoy well just who are you?

skullpatrol

6:33 PM

He is the man.

RegDwigнt

24? JSB's record is like ten times that. You still have a lot to work for.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Right question. Steven Brust’s Dragaeran Cycle.

George Pompidou

sure, but he's been here much longer and is older and more educated. I think I'm doing decently.

RegDwigнt

I'm not saying you're doing indecently. I'm saying you could be more decent still.

Cerberus

@Arrowfar Good, you?

George Pompidou

6:34 PM

but of course. I could also have a trillion points thingies.

RegDwigнt

What do rich people do? They get even moar rich.

George Pompidou

gets moar rich

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt The civil servant who created the new oblast?

George Pompidou

oh, blast.

RegDwigнt

They didn't get rich in the first place by stopping whenever they had enough, or by knowing the word enough exists.

Matt Эллен

6:35 PM

@JasperLoy hi!

skullpatrol

What do half bright twelve year olds do?

George Pompidou

I'm never going to get over that funny name for a province.

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou no, he means Ob last. The last river by the name Ob.

Cerberus

Surely you have read Tolstoy...

Ex.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus I wouldn't be too sure.

Cerberus

6:36 PM

I would be.

George Pompidou

only for school.

RegDwigнt

Jul 29 at 0:04, by George Capote

and I am a true polyglot. but one who hates the slavic languages.

skullpatrol

Don't be an oxymoron :-)

George Pompidou

all instances of myself prior to the present time are idiot Georges

user116848

@Cerberus I am good. Thanks :)

Cerberus

6:37 PM

@RegDwigнt Ouch.

George Pompidou

that is a ridiculous statement and I do not stand by it.

Cerberus

Haha good.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus He thinks Lermontov, Yesenin, and Pushkin are Gagarin, Khruschev, and Stalin.

George Pompidou

once again, that was idiot George.

actually no.

that was hilarious Russian mocker George.

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou it's okay, just let me quote the rest of your statements from the transcript.

skullpatrol

6:38 PM

Oxymoron George?

George Pompidou

all sorts of George.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Oh, dear.

George Pompidou

I can mock the Russians all I want. they are silly and insane.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus on the plus side, he actually knew Gagarin and it was indeed the very first Russian name that sprang to his mind. You know there are other people here who'd never heard of him.

Actually you probably don't, you forgot.

@GeorgePompidou but what about Russian gypsies?

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен I am still thinking about doing that possibly illegal thing...

Cerberus

6:40 PM

@RegDwigнt Gagarin, the one who was bullied away by Jeff?

skullpatrol

Even half bright twelve year olds don't mock Russians

George Pompidou

my parents are from communist Romania, so that explains that.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy I see

RegDwigнt

Jul 17 '11 at 16:08, by Grace Note

@RegDwight I don't know who J. (Y.?) A. Gagarin is.

Matt Эллен

I'm still a moderator

Jasper Loy

6:41 PM

@MattЭллен Good, good.

skullpatrol

I'm still skull

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt As you know, I am not Grace's sock puppet.

George Pompidou

Jasper is a silly name anyway.

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен wait, I suck at reading between the lines. You want to step down and make Jasper a mod?

George Pompidou

my girlfriend named a piggy Jasper.

Jasper Loy

6:42 PM

@GeorgePompidou I never had a girlfriend, sad panda.

skullpatrol

TMI^

George Pompidou

TMA-1

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou a Hollywood writer named a fat guy George. A Jewish Hollywood writer.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt no! I was just stating a fact

George Pompidou

:O

Matt Эллен

6:43 PM

no lines to read between

RegDwigнt

17 mins ago, by RegDwigнt

And I was getting my hopes all up...

George Pompidou

all of your hopes up?

or them all the way up

skullpatrol

Read between the points.

George Pompidou

how high is all up?

Jasper Loy

I should write an article titled What to do when what you want to do is morally right but legally wrong.

RegDwigнt

6:44 PM

@GeorgePompidou It's like 7 up but higher.

skullpatrol

Put it on the blog

George Pompidou

oh!

I've always wanted someone to quantify that beverage somehow

RegDwigнt

George Pompidou

thank you Reg

RegDwigнt

Jul 9 at 12:22, by RegDwigнt

skullpatrol

6:45 PM

Thanks reg

RegDwigнt

Here's a detailed quantification.

George Pompidou

Deutschland!

hugs Germany

RegDwigнt

Schland.

Jasper Loy

Where I will be reborn.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt I can try and make some line for you to read between, if you'd really like

George Pompidou

6:46 PM

just use the pipe sign

| |

there are two perfectly good lines.

RegDwigнt

Ceci n'est pas the pipe sign.

skullpatrol

Are you a quantification mechananic?

George Pompidou

| butt |

read between those lines

chuckles

RegDwigнt

Why are you telling me to be titty?

skullpatrol

😄

George Pompidou

6:47 PM

🐴

skullpatrol

👍

RegDwigнt

コ

Cccccccombo breaker!

George Pompidou

🚀

@Reg how do you pronounce the first part of 'Cccccccombo' with all the Cs

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou ccccccorrectly, that's how.

💀

6:49 PM

oh, ☺️

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

Seriously, how old did you say you were? You not know Killer Instinct? That sort of disqualifies you from chatting here.

George Pompidou

I know I know. I was just being bothersome.

RegDwigнt

Next up, you'll even name a Justin Bieber song or ten.

George Pompidou

6:50 PM

someone assigned me a task at work and it's just… pedantic and I don't want to do it.

skullpatrol

1⃣2⃣ years old

Half bright

George Pompidou

Justin Bieber? isn't that a Canadian drug addict or something

Jasper Loy

I love Justin Bieber.

Freddy

@JasperLoy LOL

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou This post about pedantic was the last straw. Now our chat is going to be associated with child abuse.

Jasper Loy

6:52 PM

@Freddy Are you a chemist?

George Pompidou

pedontic

no no, that's about teeth I think.

RegDwigнt

Jul 23 at 10:00, by RegDwigнt

Heute per pedes, morgen Mercedes.

Freddy

@JasperLoy nope why ?

George Pompidou

haha

Jasper Loy

@Freddy Just making small talk.

I think the people who know about my deleting accounts probably knows that I am mad by now.

Freddy

6:54 PM

@JasperLoy oh nice I am 16 years old chemistry student !

skullpatrol

half bright twelve year olds make small talk

Jasper Loy

@Freddy There is no need for the space before the punctuation.

RegDwigнt

No need? You mean like no excuse.

skullpatrol

GN

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 (Oops, previous reply was misattributed. Here’s the mister version.) Right question. Steven Brust’s Dragaeran Cycle.

George Pompidou

6:55 PM

my dad puts spaces before punctuation.

Freddy

It look nice

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist aaaaaahh. I should have guessed.

RegDwigнt

Harhar. I think tchrist just saw it.

George Pompidou

ssshhhh

Jasper Loy

I saw it too.

George Pompidou

6:56 PM

; )

RegDwigнt

@Freddy no, it looks wrong. Except in French.

Jasper Loy

Why was it deleted?

George Pompidou

because it's getting old.

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy because he clicked the "delete" link.

skullpatrol

1⃣2⃣ years old!

George Pompidou

6:57 PM

that's not an age, man. ages are integers or floats or something.

Jasper Loy

Floats are for swimming.

skullpatrol

Lol

RegDwigнt

Technically speaking, floats are for not swimming.

They indeed prevent you from swimming.

Jasper Loy

I would like to pose this question again.

skullpatrol

Says the technician

George Pompidou

6:58 PM

don't be a poser.

RegDwigнt

I would like to not read it again.

Jasper Loy

What would you do if you want to do something morally right but legally wrong?

George Pompidou

haven't you listened to Pharrell?

fuckin posers.

skullpatrol

Just do it

George Pompidou

@Jasper that's not a crazy new philosophical question.

RegDwigнt

6:59 PM

@JasperLoy Change the legislation.

George Pompidou

I do that every few days when I smoke pot.

everyone does it when they jaywalk.

it's just no big deal

Jasper Loy

I guess I just have to risk going to jail, that is all.

skullpatrol

:-O

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou Why the heck would you be in that one nazi town that still hasn't legalized it?

George Pompidou

everyone risks going to jail all the time!

Jasper Loy

6:59 PM

In the end, I think it is about whether I want to go to jail or not.

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