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10:00 PM
@JasperLoy that's the Catch-22.
If you have no children, who will care for you?
The more you have, the more lottery tickets you have in the bowl.
 
There is too much suffering in this world. Is there a solution besides the Buddha's?
 
Buddha is dead. That's ultimately the only solution that will work for everyone.
 
In a sense, that is true. Perhaps Nibbana is the final death.
 
The Sun will burn out and nobody will care if a trillion years ago you played with LEGO or wrote Wikipedia. There will be nobody to care.
 
That is, dead here means no more rebirth.
@RegDwigнt I believe after that, the universe will form again.
 
10:03 PM
Some believe that, yes. Some believe that that's how ours was created already.
 
It is a never ending cycle. There are endless Marias.
 
You read too much Asimov.
And if you don't, you should.
 
By the way, that Maria has long left SE.
 
Apr 6 '11 at 13:04, by RegDwight
Oh Maria, wie scheen war es frieher!
Apr 6 '11 at 13:04, by Robusto
Apologies to Stephen Sondheim, Vladimir Nabokov, and the rest of humanity.
 
I should try to forget her. Maybe she is married, lol.
 
10:05 PM
Yeah, high time @robusto apologized to all those folks!
 
Robusto almost never apologises.
 
Gah shit of course I had to say that while Jasper was around. Fck me.
That's a nice ticket outta here!
17 mins ago, by RegDwigнt
But I was meaning to watch Community and fall asleep.
 
You can still delete your message.
 
@JasperLoy um. You mean you can delete yours?
I'm out!
 
10:53 PM
I am lonely, someone say something...
 
can any computer person tell me why connecting to my personal server from my home network takes forever?
it's only from my home network, and it's only the connecting part. transferring stuff to/from is super quick.
I felt like it was DNS resolution taking forever, but I don't think that's the case.
though in my mind that's the only thing that fits in this case.
@JasperLoy you really shouldn't look to the internet for being less lonely; it does the opposite.
 
What happens when you turn off your modem?
Or, no.
 
there is no modem under my control. I have a network cable popping out of my wall.
 
Whathappens when you pull out the cable from your modem?
The cable leading to the outside Internet.
 
well, if I unplug that then my internet would not work.
 
10:56 PM
Oh, you probably can't tell me, because you're disconnected now.
 
sneaky Cerberus.
 
But then can you still access your own server?
 
my server is remote.
it's in a datacenter in Canada
 
Oh.
Then scratch that.
 
but! from work, connecting is instantaneous.
 
10:57 PM
Strange.
 
from home, where internet is much, much faster, it takes about 30 seconds.
very strange.
 
Have your tried a VPN?
If you connect to through a VPN in, say, Canada, you may be avoiding some weird bottlenecks.
Like a near-by CDN.
I recommend Tunnelbear. 500MB/month free data.
 
still wouldn't explain why 1. from work it's perfectly fine, and 2. I still get in the 10MB/s range for transfers.
 
Up to 1,500MB free.
 
speed is no problem. it's no bottleneck.
 
10:58 PM
Well, your work might connect to a different CDN, for some reason.
It could be just a latency issue with the CDN...
 
no latency issue either.
hang on…
hmm… so strange
even my phone is really quick. and from my computer in Seattle.
 
There are many strange things in this world.
 
everywhere is super quick except my home internet.
 
a 30-second wait is a kind of latency issue?
 
not really though. ping is under 50ms
 
11:01 PM
It is strange ideed.
 
just the time between when I type ssh server and I get the password prompt
is 30 seconds.
that's the only thing that takes long
 
Ping from your home network to your private server?
 
OK.
 
also, typing things in ssh has no discernible lag
it's almost instant
 
11:01 PM
All I can think of is some CDN.
Cloudflare slowing down certain specific locations or other characteristics.
 
@Cerberus seems to be an expert.
 
I'd use Tunnelbear to check.
No.
 
I'm downloading a 4.5GB film from my server to my laptop at home, it's about 8MB/s
 
I use vpn to access blocked sites now.
 
no speed issue there.
I'm sure someone in here is an expert and can figure it out.
 
11:04 PM
@JasperLoy Great! Which one?
 
@Cerberus hotfreevpn.com
 
I wonder why George won't consider a VPN. But, oh, well.
@JasperLoy Ah OK, I remember now.
 
@Cerberus It is as hot as you, lol.
 
Who gave you the idea of using a VPN? Is everybody in S. using a VPN?
 
@Cerberus I don't know.
 
11:05 PM
because I don't need it. I'm fine with directly connecting to my server, and I'm sure I can solve the issue.
another development: http connects no problem.
it's just SSH that takes a while to prompt me for password
 
@JasperLoy OK.
@GeorgePompidou Noooo silly, just to test where the problem lies.
 
but I have access to my work servers, my home computer in Seattle, my campus internet next door
 
Seattle? I plan to apply to U of W there.
 
good stuff. I was thinking of transferring there.
okay, I tried making SSH very verbose. I can see where the problem is, but not what it is.
I wanna ask a pro unix dude like @tchrist
before going to an SE site
huh. I think I fixed it.
and found the problem.
if you're curious @Cerberus, the ssh server was trying to look up my DNS when I connected to it. every place where it worked fine had DNS resolve fine, my home internet looks to not have DNS.
I disabled the DNS looking up option on sshd and it's fine now
^.^
 
Um OK, great!
 
11:18 PM
(I should've looked it up on unix.se like three weeks ago)
 
Not many people know how to make texworks, latexmk, pstricks and pdflatex work together. I did, but I forgot, lol.
 
why are you speaking Polish?
this is English
 
Ah, those are just things in the world of TeX.
@GeorgePompidou Do you use Linux?
 
well, obviously.
 
Which one? I use Mint.
 
11:23 PM
on my personal things usually Ubuntu, really anything off Debian is fine by me.
work usually red hat enterprise linux
 
I did not like Unity or GNOME shell, so I use MATE desktop.
 
ah, I haven't used a linux desktop in a while since my main computer is a MacBook
actually, what am I saying
my workstation at work has some linux desktop. not sure which.
hell if I care; all I need is firefox and a terminal
 
11:44 PM
my work workstation
Arbeitarbeitsplatz
workworkstation
Arbeitsworkstation
I suppose if I had a workstation at home it could be a Hausarbeitsplatz
 
そうね。。。。。
@GeorgePompidou 英語がないよ。
I think @JohanLarsson got eaten by a grizzly.
 
nope, still here
 

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