English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

z7sg Ѫ

2:00 PM

Any @Russian speakers about today?

user19161

@z7sgѪ You!

Rhŵdri

@JasperLoy Ew. That question is basically "please explain this baroque and self-satisfied sentence to me."

user19161

@z7sgѪ One has been suspended, one has tuberculosis, and one is busy catching mice. No luck.

Rhŵdri

Tuberculosis? What did I miss?

KitΘδς

@JasperLoy Voles.

@Rhŵdri Supposedly the crotchety, sexist, racist drunk one has tuberculosis.

user19161

2:03 PM

@Rhŵdri vgv8 suspended, reg owl and mice and supposedly trg787 TB but maybe they meant it as a joke, I dunno.

KitΘδς

@JasperLoy No. No joke.

He's drunk as a skunk most of the time he's in chat, and looking for a fight.

He's in a bad way, that one.

user19161

@KitΘδς In this incomprehensible room you never can tell easily what is real and what is not.

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JSBᾶngs

@JasperLoy a truer statement has never been said of elu chat

Rhŵdri

@KitΘδς Ah. I could easily believe that given his drinking.

user19161

But everything that I say that is not funny is the truth.

JSBᾶngs

2:05 PM

@KitΘδς the guy who was arguing w/ simchona over 3K was someone else, no? i can't remember his handle right now. but not one of the regulars

user19161

@JSBᾶngs That's trg787.

Matt Ellen Д

@Marthaª ah, so you know as much as I do! :)

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs I'm pretty sure you are right.

Marthaª

@MattEllenД Ayup. :)

user19161

And let's not start the 3K argument again.

Marthaª

2:08 PM

Well, I do know that we got out of beta sometime this past winter (I forget exactly when, but clearly not in August), so it makes sense for August 5 to be the date the beta started.

Matt Ellen Д

@KitΘδς I'm just having lunch. I'll join you!

z7sg Ѫ

@KitΘδς I don't think he was trying to pick a fight with that misogynistic rubbish, he probably just believes it I'm sorry to say. It's not unusual in that part of the world. It's a pity cos a couple days before I had some interesting chat on here with him and Cerberus.

KitΘδς

@JasperLoy What was the 3K argument?

user19161

@MattEllenД lunch

KitΘδς

@z7sgѪ I think he's pretty angry with the world.

JSBᾶngs

2:09 PM

Kinder, Küche, Kirche

Kinder, Küche, Kirche (), or the 3 K’s, is a slogan translated as “children, kitchen, church”. Although the phrase is in the German language and is attributed to the German Emperor Wilhelm II, it has been in use mostly in the English-speaking world, and may even have originated there. At the present time it has a derogative connotation describing an antiquated female role model. The phrase is vaguely equivalent to the English Barefoot and pregnant. The origins The first mention of the phrase appears in a speech given in December 1898 by the then New York Senator Chauncey Depew to the co...

user19161

@KitΘδς Sth about women being in church, kitchen and for children in some language.

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs Oh, OK. Yeah, that was trg787.

user19161

Careful, we don't want anyone to get upset.

JSBᾶngs

@JasperLoy nah, i'm used to upsetting people.

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy gah! these wrist spiders ah always making mistakes

KitΘδς

2:10 PM

@JSBᾶngs Well, I don't see what's objectionable about that.

user19161

But you guys can say whatever you want to me. I am never offended.

JSBᾶngs

we have a whole pile of questions on the multicollider right now

mostly decent questions

KitΘδς

@JasperLoy That's no fun at all.

Rhŵdri

@JSBᾶngs That's no fun at all either.

user19161

I love this chat formatting. I only learnt how to use italics here yesterday so I am trying to use it more.

KitΘδς

2:13 PM

@JSBᾶngs That's funny, I don't remember any boobs or poop questions lately.

JSBᾶngs

@JasperLoy the same formatting is used across all SE sites for answers, questions, and comments. i get very annoyed when i'm typing anywhere at it doesn't support markdown, now.

user19161

drinks water after dinner

Cerberus

Hi.

user19161

@Cerberus Hello!

Matt Ellen Д

@Cerberus helloooooooooooooo

KitΘδς

2:16 PM

@Cerberus Hey, you're awake!

Marthaª

@JSBᾶngs I resemble this remark.

KitΘδς

@Cerberus I've been up for five hours longer than you, lazy!

user19161

@cerb I have changed my avatar again. This one should stay for a while I think. I hope it is more palatable to your eyes.

Cerberus

@KitΘδς How do you do that!?

KitΘδς

@Cerberus What?

user19161

2:18 PM

In particular, this is still human and sim's is still a kitten so you won't confuse us.

Rhŵdri

@JSBᾶngs Markdown, restricted markdown, reStructured text, my own homebrew markup, bbcode... I'm just annoyed when I type these days :-)

Cerberus

@JasperLoy It looks orange! Quite distinguisable.

Matt Ellen Д

@Cerberus r u lookin @ kit?

Cerberus

@KitΘδς Being up 5 hours earlier? I thought we went to bed around the same time. I may have been reading in bed for a while...

user19161

@Cerberus Orange? Oh dear, isn't it greyish with some purple?

user19161

2:19 PM

I think you lack sleep!

KitΘδς

@Cerberus Ah. Necessity.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy I see a greyish one on the left, an orange one at the top right. I am not refreshing, remember.

@KitΘδς Brave.

user19161

@Cerberus Not refreshing is silly. Refresh your browser and yourself too!

Cerberus

@JasperLoy The latter I will do presently.

user19161

hands out refreshments

Matt Ellen Д

2:21 PM

@Cerberus you won't refresh the room, but you expect Jasper to refresh his memory?

Marthaª

Ooh, there's a star next to the room name that you can use to mark this as a favorite room! Has that always been there?

KitΘδς

@Marthaª Yes.

@Cerberus Not so much brave as necessary.

Marthaª

@KitΘδς I'm so observant.

user19161

@Marthaª Not sure, never noticed!

Cerberus

@MattEllenД Nah I don't expect him to do anything...

Matt Ellen Д

2:22 PM

:D

user19161

everyone is refreshed

Cerberus

For nostalgia's sake:

KitΘδς

2:41 PM

Chart controls hate me!

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς chart controls hate everyone. they are evil, malicious things, misanthropes to the last

user19161

The sexual inadequacy question got 5 answers in 10 min under the disguise of double negation.

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs This might be a good argument to my boss about why I should be allowed to write python scripts.

user19161

@KitΘδς I hate chart controls!

Matt Ellen Д

@KitΘδς yers! use cherrypy!

JSBᾶngs

2:43 PM

@JasperLoy it's actually a really good question. the sexy part is entirely irrelevant

Matt Ellen Д

also - highchart is a good chart control

KitΘδς

@MattEllenД Is it python?

Unfortunately I don't have time to re-do the charts.

Matt Ellen Д

@KitΘδς javascript/svg

KitΘδς

Anyone happen to know how to make just the grid display if there is no series?

Matt Ellen Д

@KitΘδς what chart control are you using?

KitΘδς

2:45 PM

Asp.Net Chart.

I should say, I'm assuming that the gridlines aren't displayed because there is no data, but I can't be certain. These controls are stupid.

Matt Ellen Д

you can d/l the control's help:

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς never trust any programming tool named after a snake

Matt Ellen Д

microsoft.com/download/en/…

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs Not even python?

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς especially not python

Matt Ellen Д

2:47 PM

@KitΘδς named after a comedy troupe :)

so it's OK!

:p @JSBngs

KitΘδς

@MattEllenД How have I not seen this?

Matt Ellen Д

@KitΘδς microsoft are shifty. they shift things

JSBᾶngs

@MattEllenД i find it interesting that when you ping me as JSBngs it still highlights my name. evidently it also ignores the non-ASCII characters when calc'ing pings

Matt Ellen Д

@JSBᾶngs pinging works based on the first 3 characters

I think @JSBasdlkfhasjkldh should ping you

JSBᾶngs

@MattEllenД it does not. you can ping with as little as the first 3 chars, but if you give more than that, they must match exactly

@MatNotYou should not ping you

Matt Ellen Д

2:49 PM

@JSBᾶngs ah

then I guess if there are non-us keyboard characters in a name then the system can ignore them when pinging

JSBᾶngs

@MattEllenД or smth. i'm not sure what would happen if my name had the non-ascii in the first 3 chars. i might be unpingable

Matt Ellen Д

@JSBᾶngs !!

user19161

@JSBᾶngs That's the only part relevant to me!

user19161

Why do they say F'x is unpingaple?

JSBᾶngs

I don't know. i think he gets pung as @Fx, but i don't know if that by itself will summon him. i think not. too few chars

Caleb

2:53 PM

@JasperLoy It's a technical thing because of the way they implemented pings. It goes like this:

Matt Ellen Д

I concur

Caleb

Rather than having an absolute reference to the user (say a link or user id) they are just parsing the text and guessing.

To do this, they look for at signs and the following text, and then try to match that text against user names that are participating in a given post (or chat).

But people abreviate, they don't type special characters, etc, so it does some tricks to help wire it all up.

user19161

I thought you cannot omit the apostrophe, so you should ping him like this @f'x.

JSBᾶngs

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Q: Does the phrase "breed with someone" have the meaning of good feeling develop

I found this sentence in a dating book: women breed with seducers who understand how to trigger, through words and touch, the fantasy parts of the female brain so the the phrase "breed with " actually means mate with? or good feeling about the seducers develop? Thanks

meaning-in-context

Caleb

Specifically it only looks at alpha-numeric characters using their plain asci values (ü as u for example).

user19161

2:55 PM

That is, following the same rules as the main site comments.

JSBᾶngs

^ gen ref. the question boils down to the meaning of "breed", which can be found in any dictionary

Caleb

So @bob will ping @böb.

But people abreviate. They might try to ping BobTheBuilder as @bob.

JSBᾶngs

@Caleb but i believe that @JSBangs no longer pings me. it doesn't map Greek -> Latin

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs "pungged"

user19161

ping pang pung pinged

Caleb

2:56 PM

So they actually only look at the first few characters ... 3 I think. (@JSB does this get you?)

user19161

I like to play ping pong but hate to eat pong pong.

Caleb

Additionally, they STOP parsing when they hit a non alphanumeric character (such as :) so that @bob: matches 'bob', not 'bob:'.

JSBᾶngs

@Caleb yes, that gets me. but as established above, all of the characters that you type have to actually match

i dropped a paperclip in my tea this morning, and just now got to the bottom to fish it out, finally.

Caleb

A single quote is not alpha-numeric, hence F'x only matches F which isn't enough minimum characters to qualify to be a ping.

user19161

@Caleb But he can be pinged on the main site comments with f'x, no?

JSBᾶngs

2:58 PM

i'm going to hit the repcap today on the basis of just two answers, after having gotten ~100 rep for the entire rest of the week.

Caleb

@JSBᾶngs They do match some UTF8 character to ASCI renderings, but apparently not all of them :)

JSBᾶngs

@Caleb presumably they're using a library for that mapping, as i can't imagine that they wrote their own. does .net provide such a function? i know that iconv does, but i doubt that they've incorporated the iconv library

KitΘδς

@JasperLoy Mods can secret super-ping him. But I think otherwise he's unpinggable.

user19161

@KitΘδς He's not very sociable then.

Caleb

@JSBᾶngs You also poached one of mine. I answered first but then upvoted you so it floated to the top and it looks like that was enough that everybody piled on your answer. (which was actually better than mine, so I'm not actually whining, just giving you a hard time)

JSBᾶngs

3:01 PM

@Caleb :D

Caleb

@JSBᾶngs My knowledge of .NET is dead zero plus a few minus points for prejudice.

user19161

@Caleb I was in the middle of writing an answer when I saw that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 had been loaded. Then I gave up even though I might write a completely different one.

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs I think it's less obvious than that, although I voted to close and provided a comment.

"Breed" can mean to produce progeny, but it can also mean to engender.

JSBᾶngs

@Caleb it does. the System.Text.ASCIIEncoding class has an implementation of System.Text.DecoderFallback, which implements best-fit fallback. i'm quite sure that's what they're using

KitΘδς

As in "Teaching the world to sing breeds goodwill toward all."

RegDwight Ѭſ道

3:09 PM

@JSBᾶngs I... I don't even know where to begin.

Basically I have nothing to add to your answer.

But seriously, Gügle? Bohk?

Who talks like that?

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 no english-speakers, obviously. my request for input was mostly to make sure that my idea of german pronunciation was correct. in particular, i wasn't sure if german actually does include [ʊ] as an allophone of /u/ somewhere

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Good question. Dunno.

Caleb

@JSBᾶngs I'll take your word for it, it sounds plausible even if I think they would have implemented real rather than pseudo user matching in the first place.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Liste der IPA-Zeichen

{| | Hinweis: Alle mit der formatierten Ausspracheangaben sind auf diese Seite verlinkt; hier wird die ungefähre Aussprache einzelner Zeichen möglichst einfach erklärt.Technische Informationen zur Darstellung von Lautschrift sowie weiterführende Links finden sich auf der Seite . |} Diese Liste der Zeichen des Internationalen Phonetischen Alphabets dient all jenen als Hilfe, die bei der Aussprache eines Lautschriftzeichens unsicher sind. Alle Zeichen sind mit einer Beschreibung und Beispielen versehen. Als Beispielsprachen bevorzugt werden neben Deutsch die gängigen „Schulsprachen“, da...

Hm. Why the heck did they sort ʌ under v?

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 so there's und given there as an example of [ʊ]. is this a normal allophone of /u/ in closed syllables?

z7sg Ѫ

3:16 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 Gugle (or Gügle) is a Swiss German term for cowl or point.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JSBᾶngs I dunno, I'm a bit confused myself, so right now I'm just looking up random stuff such as bunt, gesund, etc.

z7sg Ѫ

Is Boot the only Dszchömmen wort with 'oo' in't?

Grace Note

Gesundheit?

z7sg Ѫ

Danke.

I suppose there is Moor isn't there?

and Moos

RegDwight Ѭſ道

And Looping.

Matt Ellen Д

3:22 PM

moose

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Moose is the plural of Moos, doesn't count.

Matt Ellen Д

:D

user19161

I thought moos is the plural of moo.

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 does this mean "moose"? please tell me this means "moose"

user19161

The cow gave one moo, two moos, three moos...

z7sg Ѫ

3:23 PM

moose = Elch

JSBᾶngs

@z7sgѪ and i suppose elch = deer

i should ask a question about the phenomenal taxonomic confusion that gave us the words elk, moose, and (red) deer

Grace Note

"I am an elk. I have antlers"

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JasperLoy Eine Kuh macht Muh. Viele Kühe machen Mühe.

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Grace Note

I can actually surmise what that actually means.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Damn. I'm not incomprehensible enough. Gonna work that in part.

KitΘδς

3:26 PM

Mühe is such a nice sounding word.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Especially if you leave a shadow of [h] in.

user19161

One cow makes a moo. Many cows make trouble. (translated from Reg)

FallenAngelEyes

@JSBᾶngs I know that in Dutch, they have no separate word for "elk" and "moose." They're both "eland."

RegDwight Ѭſ道

You mean "ananas".

Grace Note

Ah yes, the only word in Dutch

user19161

3:28 PM

For those who missed out yesterday, my masterpiece: The banana in the papaya in the iguana in the zenana is in Panama.

Grace Note

Not enough jacana

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Elend is German for "misery, hardship, distress".

JSBᾶngs

@FallenAngelEyes in Romanian they seem to have only one word for moose/elk/caribou/reindeer. at least, i've never been able to get native speakers to agree on what the words for those different species are

z7sg Ѫ

@JSBᾶngs Yes, it is interesting. We pinched so many of those words from native languages and mixed them up.

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 everything in German is misery, hardship, and distress

KitΘδς

3:29 PM

Santana is playing the iguana's papaya for a jacana banana in the zenana in Panama with Bananorama.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JSBᾶngs Philosophy.SE is elsewhere.

z7sg Ѫ

I like the word Schwermut. Why does it mean melancholy? (I should ask on GLU)

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 edited my original. it shouldn't have been a question

Grace Note

@z7sgѪ Well, it's got like some kind of sword in it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JSBᾶngs In German, reindeer is actually Rentier. Quite funny since Tier actually means animal. In Russian, there are just deers and Northern deers.

Matt Ellen Д

3:31 PM

and capitalists

z7sg Ѫ

@GraceNote sword = Schwert.

Grace Note

@z7sgѪ I know. Hence "some kind of"

The first thing I do whenever learning any new language is learn how to say various weapons and dangerous elements.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Ninjasterne! Obacht!

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 i just checked myself. romanian wikipedia has elan for "moose", but there is no Romanian wikipedia article for **elk**

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JSBᾶngs It's a wiki. You can write one.

FallenAngelEyes

3:32 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 Just "deer," I believe, for plural.

JSBᾶngs

however, when presented with a picture of a moose, i've never had a romanian say elan to me. mostly they just say ren

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@FallenAngelEyes I did say "in Russian".

z7sg Ѫ

@GraceNote Yes of course that is a priority but in this case I think schwer = heavy so it means 'heavy courage'.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@z7sgѪ I doubt it has anything to do with courage. Compare mood.

Heavy mood.

Grace Note

Or you just skewered a mu on your blade

FallenAngelEyes

3:34 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 D'oh!

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 how am i supposed to translate a 4,000-word wiki page about elk if there is no word for "elk" ?

Grace Note

Like a shish-kebob (kabob? Oi, I never remember that one...)

z7sg Ѫ

@GraceNote Heh ok :D

@RegDwightѬſ道 Ah ok, that is so obvious now you say it. Mut is a slippery customer.

Btw @RegDwight, what does this mean: Все сердце в решето

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@z7sgѪ I would have to ask my wife.

JSBᾶngs

the dictionary says that elk = wapiti, but i sure as hell have never heard a romanian say wapiti. they fall back on ren again

Matt Ellen Д

3:35 PM

@GraceNote kebap, kebab, kebob, kebop, kabop, kabob, etc,

they're all fine since arabic doesn't directly transliterate to english

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MattEllenД Ke-Bap-A-Lula, she's my baby!

z7sg Ѫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 OK. I'll just go with "hearts in a sieve" for now then.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@z7sgѪ Obviously the literal meaning is not cutting it.

Also, "the whole heart" rather than "hearts".

@JSBᾶngs It's very technical. Get an expert to help. And pliers.

Matt Ellen Д

@RegDwightѬſ道 that's a strange name for a baby. But I won't tell you how to parent!

z7sg Ѫ

Yes the literal meaning isn't very useful... "the whole heart" as opposed to only parts of the heart.. hmmm

Grace Note

3:38 PM

Oh, it's an Arabic word?

user19161

@MattEllenД I took a pee and a poo and then a peep at my poop.

FallenAngelEyes

@RegDwightѬſ道 ...Now that's stuck in my head.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@z7sgѪ The key word here is в, really.

Matt Ellen Д

@GraceNote Yeah, at least that's what I've been told

Grace Note

Intrigue.

JSBᾶngs

3:39 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 bah. that's not even a whole word.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JSBᾶngs yeah, unlike I.

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy well, you need to know the colour, to know if you're ill!

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 in English our one letter words at least have the decency to consist of vowels

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JSBᾶngs You can say во if you insist. Also, if you want to sound like an idiot.

Matt Ellen Д

@GraceNote it probably means "meat"

RegDwight Ѭſ道

3:41 PM

Here are ten Russian words for you: а, б, в, ж, и, к, о, с, у, я.

JSBᾶngs

i don't know what а, б, ж, о are. keep in mind that i have exactly one semester of russian

Matt Ellen Д

Kebab

Kebab (Persian:كباب, also kebap, kabab, kebob, kabob, kibob, kebhav, kephav, kebabie, Cevap) is a wide variety of meat dishes originating in Persia and later on adopted by the Middle East and Turkey, and now found worldwide. In English, kebab with no qualification generally refers more specifically to shish kebab served on the skewer or döner kebab served wrapped in bread with a salad and a dressing. In the Middle East, however, kebab includes grilled, roasted, and stewed dishes of large or small cuts of meat, or even ground meat; it may be served on plates, in sandwiches, or in bowls. ...

ok, it is derived from "to burn"

z7sg Ѫ

hmmm, б and ж aren't proper words

Grace Note

That's cause 6 is a number ♪

z7sg Ѫ

хехехе

RegDwight Ѭſ道

3:46 PM

@JSBᾶngs а is a conjunction or an introductory particle, a rather intriguing mix of an "and" and a "but". О is a preposition, "about". Also, the vocative particle, obviously. Б is a shortening of бы, subjunctive mood of быть. Ж is an amplifying particle, a shortening of же.

FallenAngelEyes

@RegDwightѬſ道 Ж looks like it would make a good weapon.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@FallenAngelEyes How about Ѭ, then? It even has a handy handle!

FallenAngelEyes

Oooh, that one looks painful.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

You can use it as a warhammer or as a pitchfork.

The possibilities are ~~endless~~ two!

user19161

My weapon is so powerful: it is invisible.

JSBᾶngs

3:48 PM

the best weapons are in glagolitic

4

user19161

Can you see it?

JSBᾶngs

FallenAngelEyes

Okay, I seem to have hit the exhaustion wall, sleeptime for me. Have a good day everyone!

JSBᾶngs

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@FallenAngelEyes Gnite!

JSBᾶngs

3:49 PM

z7sg Ѫ

Glagolitic is clearly too dangerous to be admitted to unicode.

JSBᾶngs

glagolitic is already in unicode.

but font support = fail

alanwood.net/unicode/glagolitic.html <-- none of my browsers renders this properly

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Glagolitic so powerfull it kills browsar lol

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Interesting. Latin has at, which is also a mix of and and but. And Greek has an intensifying particle ge, which becomes g' before a vowel.

@FallenAngelEyes Night!

Matt Ellen Д

nite @FallenAngelEyes

JSBᾶngs

3:52 PM

@Cerberus it's very similar to Ro iar

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes Have you really been awake all the time since I went to bed?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Stop pinging him already, you're cruel!

z7sg Ѫ

I see a whole lot of boxes. It's just as well tbh. Think of the havoc that would break out if everybody switched to glagolitic user names.

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs Ah, which is? A?

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus yes

z7sg Ѫ

3:52 PM

sweet dreams @FallenAngelEyes

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Who is "he"?

@JSBᾶngs Funny... any idea where this iar came from? Probably not the same root as at?

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus no idea

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Ze angel.

Cerberus

@z7sgѪ I used to see lots of boxes, until I installed the font Code2000 and set it as my default font. Everything is still Arial on this page, but the odd characters are displayed without error.

@RegDwightѬſ道 You are making it gender confused.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Mar 15 at 21:53, by Robusto

Grammatical gender, she is stupid.

JSBᾶngs

3:55 PM

dex sez:

> Pare să provină dintr-un lat. *era (Schuchardt, ZRPh., XV, 240; G. Paris, Rom., XX, 333; Meyer-Lübke, Rom. Gramm., III, 495; Pușcariu 756; REW 2886; DAR; Pascu, I, 102), cf. engad. eir, prov. er(a), v. gal. ar, cu același sens; cf. și ngr. ἄρα, ἔρα. – Der. iarăși, adv. (altă dată), cu -și, ca cineși, totuși.

Rhŵdri

@JSBᾶngs Looks fine to me (is smug Ubuntu user)

Matt Ellen Д

looks fine to me. is smugger windows 7 user

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs Ah, Greek ara. But I didn't know there was a hypothetical *era in Latin.

Matt Ellen Д

the Latin era is over

Cerberus

If I understand the Romanian correctly.

Matt Ellen Д

3:57 PM

it's a dead language!

Cerberus

@MattEllenД At vivit!

Matt Ellen Д

... maybe?

Rhŵdri

@MattEllenД Vivat at?

Cerberus

Ne dixeris huiusmodi stultissima!

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus i didn't know either. in any case, it's merely presumed, but appears to have reflexes in other romance langs

Matt Ellen Д

3:58 PM

@Rhŵdri could do?

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs It must have survived in Vulgar Latin, then. No trace in high Latin, as far as I know.

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus or it was an innovation of vulgar latin. i'd almost suggest that *era < erat, given that we know that -t disappears early

Cerberus

Could be; but then there is no connection with Greek ara.

JSBᾶngs

i hope that @Kosmo comes back when linguistics.se opens

not to mod. just to hang around.

user19161

@reg Sudo make me a pixel. You are not in the sudoers list. This incident will be reported.

Matt Ellen Д

4:03 PM

@JSBᾶngs well, not to be disheartening but, that wouldn't seem likely given that Jeff's just as much involved in any given SE site

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs I hope so too. But I don't believe in ling.se's viability in any case. Too small.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Mar 3 at 10:44, by Feeds

RegDwight has been automatically appointed as owner of this room.

Not only am I in the sudoer list, I am there automatically.

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus oh? i think it's very viable. i have no doubts about its success

Cerberus

Really?

But how many people would be interested in linguistics?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Seven!

Cerberus

4:04 PM

It's not a huge science.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Exactly.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Oh, okay. Six.

What now?

Cerberus

Philosophy is struggling already.

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus um, all of the linguists? plus everyone working on NLP, which was combined with the linguistics proposal and so will be on-topic from the start

Cerberus

NLP?

How many linguists are there on SE?

Matt Ellen Д

natural language ~~programming~~ processing?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

4:05 PM

Natural language processing.

Cerberus

Oh.

Matt Ellen Д

@RegDwightѬſ道 that's what I meant

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I knew you would say that.

But now I gotta commute.

Matt Ellen Д

good luck!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

So I will continue knowing what you will say on the bus.

Over and out.

JSBᾶngs

4:06 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 commute away.

user19161

reg commutes

Matt Ellen Д

does that mean we have to be quiet until he's home?

Cerberus

Wow.

Matt Ellen Д

otherwise who will watch us?

user19161

@MattEllenД Your wrist spiders are getting quite bad!

Cerberus

4:08 PM

Whenever I type "Bye!", I get an error.

Bye!

This time it worked.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Just one more thing: look at the gravatars in this room:

The Comms Room

ServerFault's lobby

3

Cerberus

I've had that weird error before.

user19161

error

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy yeah. I might have a drink to calm them down

Rhŵdri

@RegDwightѬſ道 And they think we're weird?

Cerberus

4:11 PM

I must go.

Matt Ellen Д

see ya @Cerberus

come back in your party gear

user19161

@Cerberus Bye dear!

Cerberus

Later!

I don't have party gear, but I'll do my best. Bye!

Matt Ellen Д

here's a hat!

user19161

@MattEllenД Where's cerb going?

Matt Ellen Д

4:13 PM

I don't know

to bed maybe?

Cerberus

Dinner party.

Bye!

Matt Ellen Д

then you'll deffo need the hat

Cerberus

I need to have a shower and dress first. Ciao!

user19161

@MattEllenД Did you draw that with gimp

MikeyB

@RegDwightѬſ道 Invasion!

JSBᾶngs

4:16 PM

@MikeyB look out. we'll threaten you with our glagolitic weapons

Matt Ellen Д

@JasperLoy that I did

user19161

@MikeyB Why are all the pictures taken in the same place?

MikeyB

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Q: Paddington Bear Choppertar

Many of our top users seem to have avatars with a picture of themselves in a car with what appears to me to be Paddington Bear: So what is the story behind this?