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Arda Ξ

12:00 AM

ξ?

Cerberus

@ArdaΞ The middle bar should be even shorter.

Arda Ξ

Oh, yeah.

Well, blame the font.

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes I think we should call him Arda the Third, which is way better then the whole Arda the Eleventh he had earlier.

Cerberus

In sans serif, I believe it is usually even just a dot.

user19161

@Cerberus But any shorter and we cannot see it.

Spare Oom

12:00 AM

@aedia Slightly smaller middle bar from here too. @Cerberus

FallenAngelEyes

@Kit @Arda's a he :)

Cerberus

But it must be the font.

Arda Ξ

@Kit Her? She? frowns

user19161

@Kit Arda is a she as well?

Cerberus

I mean, the middle bar is slightly shorter for me too, but not very much so.

Arda Ξ

12:01 AM

@JasperLoy N-no?

Kit

@ArdaΞ Damn it. My apologies. I tend to interpret people I like in a gender that I find suitable.

user19161

@ArdaΞ Thanks for telling me.

Kit

Besides, I know an Arda that's a she.

Arda Ξ

@Kit I don't mind.

Spare Oom

@Kit Roman numerals and Japanese numerals got messed up in translation?

FallenAngelEyes

12:02 AM

@Kit Suitable?

Cerberus

user19161

@Kit I have learnt not to make any guesses here.

Cerberus

This is what it looks like in Times New Roman.

But I see it looks pretty much like here in Tahoma or Arial.

user19161

I think courier new is very ugly.

Cerberus

(Screenshot is in Word, copied your name from here, changed font.)

Arda Ξ

12:03 AM

Cerberus

Looks good, and big!

user19161

@Cerberus Boobs?

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus That's what she sa--*shot*

Cerberus

@JasperLoy points up

@FallenAngelEyes Hehe.

I have a friend Arda.

And the earth is called Arda in Tolkien.

user19161

@Cerberus Sounds like Aedia here.

Cerberus

12:05 AM

I wonder what Aedia based her name on.

user19161

She said encyclopaedia, the back of it.

aedia

@Cerberus Huhwhasomebodymentionedme?

Arda Ξ

@aedia Nobody mentioned you, don't worry.

aedia

We talked about this before. You must have been sleeping.

Jul 19 at 16:03, by aedia

Aedia leucomelas

The Eastern Alchymist, Sweet Potato Leaf Worm or Sorcerer (Aedia leucomelas) is a moth of the Noctuidae family. It is found in large parts of the world, ranging from Europe all over Asia up to Japan. The subspecies Aedia leucomelas acronyctoides is found in Australia. The wingspan is about 35 mm. The moth flies from June to September depending on the location. The larvae mainly feed on Convolvulus species, including Convolvulus sepium, Convolvulus erubescens and Convolvulus arvensis, but also on Ipomoea pes-caprae, Ipomoea batatas and perhaps Chondrilla juncea. References Externa...

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Ah! I see.

@aedia Oh!

That makes sense. I remember now.

user19161

12:07 AM

And I also said aedina is a good alternative, since that really is an idea backwards.

aedia

Jul 19 at 16:02, by aedia

@JasperLoy Whereas aedia can be at least: a moth, backwards a idea, end of encyclopaedia.

Cerberus

Haha.

Arda Ξ

I don't even recall where I got my name from.

aedia

Well, those are only the bits I remember.

Kit

@aedia Oh crap, I didn't know. I have lepidopteraphobia! Ah!

Spare Oom

12:09 AM

@aedia It makes you sound so smart! lol

user19161

@Kit What's that long word?

Arda Ξ

Well, my Xi comes from it being the shortest entry in the drop-down at the time.

aedia

@Kit giggles

FallenAngelEyes

@Kit Hahaha

simchona

@JasperLoy fear of moths

Kit

12:10 AM

@JasperLoy Fear of moths and butterflies.

FallenAngelEyes

Honestly, I find large moths slightly disconcerting and I'm not sure why

Kit

@simchona Jinx!

FallenAngelEyes

But not butterflies

user19161

Jinx

aedia

@SpareOom Aw, thanks.

Kit

12:10 AM

@JasperLoy You can't call jinx, silly.

FallenAngelEyes

I think it's because moths fly so spastically

and sometimes run into my head

user19161

@Kit I know, I like to sound silly.

Spare Oom

@FallenAngelEyes This part I can understand, but butterflies fly spastically as well.

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes Or get into your mouth. Eww. Eww!

Arda Ξ

@SpareOom But they're pretty!

FallenAngelEyes

12:11 AM

@SpareOom Yeah but usually not in a death dive to get to your monitor

user19161

Once a bee flew into my mouth. The wing got stuck.

FallenAngelEyes

@Kit Oh god I had a small moth fly into my mouth once and the wings got stuck to the back of my throat

It was horrible

Arda Ξ

@JasperLoy How'd it taste?

FallenAngelEyes

I ended up throwing up to get it out

Spare Oom

Oh, that reminds me, when I was a kid the boy across the street threw a slug at me that landed on my chin! EWWWW.

user19161

12:12 AM

@ArdaΞ A bit sweet, probably the honey, but the rest was bitter.

simchona

@SpareOom He must've liked you

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes aaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

FallenAngelEyes

@Kit That was pretty much my reaction as well. With more puking.

aedia

@SpareOom Ooh, slugs? Slugs are so cool though...

FallenAngelEyes

I like snails more than slugs.

user19161

12:13 AM

@aedia They are scary!

FallenAngelEyes

Though both can be hell on a garden. :(

aedia

I guess unexpected slugging in the face isn't cool.

Spare Oom

Mind you, cooked snails are fine, but slugs too near the mouth are slimy.

user19161

After it rains I always have to avoid stepping on the snails on the road.

user19161

@SpareOom Never tried escargot

Spare Oom

12:14 AM

Some places earthworms are like that.

Kit

@aedia thwack

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy The crunch always makes me cringe a little

Kit

@JasperLoy Pretty tasty.

FallenAngelEyes

@SpareOom Yeah that's how it was on the tennis courts at my high school :|

After the rain, it was covered in worms

aedia

FallenAngelEyes

12:14 AM

...then they'd dry out and die

Spare Oom

In Japan, the snails were as big as my fist. Not the eating kind though.

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes I try not to inflict pain on animals. Just kill them for food or if they are pests quickly.

FallenAngelEyes

so we'd have dried, deflated worm on our tennis court

@JasperLoy Yeah, I never mean to step on snails, but sometimes I don't see them. :(

@aedia It's like it's going "Helloooooooo!"

Cerberus

I hate stepping on snails.

user19161

I think those restaurants where they boil animals alive should be outlawed.

Kit

12:15 AM

@aedia @Vitaly, I think she's flirting with you.

Cerberus

Sometimes we need to put out bowls of beer to kill the slugs. But even that isn't fun.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy ohgodohgodohgod what?

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes Seafood.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus At least they die happy

Cerberus

Lobsters?

@FallenAngelEyes Hehe, true.

FallenAngelEyes

12:16 AM

@Kit Oooooh. I forget about that because I don't eat seafood.

I was picturing like

I don't know

People chucking chickens in a pot willynilly

Cerberus

I was expecting a picture.

Kit

Shellfish don't have pain receptors like chordates though, so it's not the same thing really.

Cerberus

Of dogs.

Spare Oom

@Cerberus We used to salt them too, but Dad just stepped on them when they were on the sidewalk. I hated picking a tomato only to find a slug inside it.

user19161

And they skin some snakes alive to get leather, and then leave them to die painfully.

aedia

12:17 AM

@Cerberus Playing cards?

Cerberus

@SpareOom Inside? Wow.

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes ROFL, can you imagine trying to boil a live chicken? That's hysterical!

FallenAngelEyes

@SpareOom Better than half a slug

Cerberus

@aedia Of dogs being thrown in boiling water or something.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy I hate that. :( I love snakes.

user19161

12:18 AM

So don't buy expensive leather. The more expensive, the more pain the animal goes through.

FallenAngelEyes

@Kit I know! That's why I was so incredulous! "How do they manage this?!"

Kit

@JasperLoy That makes no sense. Why do they need to be alive?

FallenAngelEyes

@Kit More supple apparently.

Spare Oom

@Cerberus unseen from the underside of an almost hollow tomato @FallenAngelEyes

aedia

@Cerberus Aren't you making your tea a little backwards?

Cerberus

12:19 AM

I don't like hurting animals unnecessarily. But cutting a wasp with my knife when it's on my plate...

user19161

@Kit The skinners don't care you see.

FallenAngelEyes

I saw this video once where they were skinning Tanooki-type animals alive somewhere in China. :(

Cerberus

@SpareOom That is absolutely gross!

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes Friggin' squawking chicken, flapping its wings and thrashing its claws...

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes Aww...

FallenAngelEyes

12:19 AM

@Kit Now I'm in a giggle fit picturing this.

@Cerberus It was horrible :(

Kit

"Um, waiter, what's going on in the kitchen?"

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes I think I saw that too. Assholes!

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy Ok, I don't care for snakes generally, but that seems unnecessary.

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes I just don't get it. How hard is it to kill them first?

Arda Ξ

@Cerberus That might damage the leather I believe.

Or some such.

user19161

12:20 AM

@Cerberus They just don't care you see.

Cerberus

@ArdaΞ Then crush their heads or something.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus They think that the skin/leather is more supple when you skin them alive and, yeah, they don't want to take the time to kill them humanely.

Arda Ξ

@Cerberus Why would they?

FallenAngelEyes

They just skinned these things and chucked them in a pile

Cerberus

Because it isn't fun to see animals suffer?

Kit

12:21 AM

@ArdaΞ Then they must sedate them at least. I can't imagine that an animal will sit docilely while you skin it.

FallenAngelEyes

@SpareOom I have a snake. :) His name is Ghost. I can't import him to the Netherlands though so he is still with my parents. :(

Cerberus

I believe many farmers aren't cruel.

user19161

@Kit Or boil it.

Kit

@JasperLoy Like a chicken.

still laughing

user19161

@Cerberus and many are. This world has all kinds of people.

user19161

12:22 AM

@Kit luckily I am not Chicken Little now.

FallenAngelEyes

@Kit Dammit, you got me going again too!

Mana

Hej, @Arda, are you doing the cool name thing?

Arda Ξ

@Mana Nah, probably something wrong with your screen.

Mana

Oh okay.

Thanks!

Arda Ξ

No problem.

Cerberus

12:23 AM

@JasperLoy Yes. But good farmers would be as kind as possible.

Spare Oom

inpossereview.com/IPR_Peet.htm

user19161

We really must be kind to chickens: they give us feathers, meat and eggs.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy And weird cartoons with cows as sidekicks.

user19161

There was this Pamela Anderson ad about how KFC should kill chickens humanely.

FallenAngelEyes

Yeah, she's big with PETA.

user19161

12:26 AM

Her boobs are big too.

user19161

So I'm sure many saw the ad.

aedia

Out for a bit again. Well, maybe the night. Dunno. TTFN!

FallenAngelEyes

Night @aedia

Spare Oom

I wouldn't be able to butcher an animal, but I do like to eat meat.

@aedia Bye.

FallenAngelEyes

My dad hunts white-tailed deer, so I've helped him butcher those.

Cerberus

12:28 AM

Bye!

►

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes spits

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes Hopefully humanely?

FallenAngelEyes

He's not a sport hunter though. He's very ethical, won't shoot young doe or buck, even though it's legal to do so. We did it for meat in the winter.

Cerberus

You probably know that one.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy Aye. He won't take a shot unless he knows that it's a killing one because he doesn't want them to suffer.

Bwahahaha @ video

<3 The Onion

user19161

12:31 AM

@FallenAngelEyes you left an extra space after the @, like me!

Spare Oom

@Cerberus Nope.

Cerberus

Good, huh.

The end is the best.

Spare Oom

haha

FallenAngelEyes

I'm going to fullscreen and play some Terraria while watching some videos, later all!

user19161

@Kit Kit is always spitting and vomitting for mysterious reasons.

Spare Oom

12:35 AM

@FallenAngelEyes bye

user19161

@cerberus It's midnight there, you should sleep early too.

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes Bye!

@JasperLoy Is the time difference so little?

2:36 here.

user19161

@Cerberus Sorry I got it wrong, I meant I thought it was midnight for you!

user19161

It's 8.30 am here.

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy Are you online the whole night?

user19161

12:38 AM

@SpareOom Half of it. I sleep mostly during the day now.

Spare Oom

In general, I mean.

@JasperLoy That works with your work schedule?

user19161

@SpareOom Not working now. :)

Spare Oom

By choice?

user19161

@SpareOom By circumstances, and also you can say by choice.

user19161

You haven't been reading the transcript I see.

user19161

12:41 AM

I guess I won't be working for quite a while.

Spare Oom

I have to work, I read back fairly far, but can't keep up.

I had been trying to read the transcript from the beginning of the site but there's no way I'll catch up.

user19161

@SpareOom Ya I felt like doing that too, but I gave up.

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy Care to direct me to what I missed?

There are some very interesting people in this room - and have been.

user19161

@SpareOom In short, OCD+PTSD and trying to heal.

Spare Oom

Oh, I'm sorry.

Are you getting better?

Sorry, I shouldn't pry. Ignore me if you want.

user19161

12:44 AM

Nope, various complications, like psychopaths making it worse. But I'll deal with them.

user19161

And the condition too, and other things. Just taking things one day at a time now.

user19161

@SpareOom There was quite a bit of discussion a few hours ago.

user19161

You not sleeping yet?

Spare Oom

I went back to where the double account issue was discussed. I take it that it was further back than that?

It's quite early here: 8:46 pm

user19161

@SpareOom Ya, a bit further, that's one of the more informative places where you'll see some others with issues too.

Spare Oom

12:47 AM

But I have to go out for a little bit. I'll be back in 30 min, I think.

user19161

@SpareOom OK bye!

Kit

10:30 AM

Good morning, EL&U!

Caleb

@Kit Top of the afternoon to you :)

Kit

@Caleb Europeans always raining on my parade. :P

Although if it's afternoon, you could be in Asia I suppose.

Caleb

@Kit Not this time. I'm North American by birth and writing to you from Asia.

Kit

@Caleb Right! You were teaching in Turkey or something nearby, as I recall.

Caleb

@Kit I live in İzmir, Turkey yes -- where the noon-day sun has only just started to relent it's daily baking process.

Kit

10:47 AM

You look like a guy I used to know named Frederich.

At least, I should say, your avatar does.

Caleb

@Kit That's me.

No German blood tho, mostly Scotch.

Kit

You look very studious and pensive. It's a good representation.

Caleb

I just skimmed through chat logs. Looks like much fun has been had by all. I actually came the other day because somebody named Thursagan showed up on Unix&Linux and I wanted to know if there was a connection. There didn't seem to be one at the time but I see all kinds of connections got drawn since then. What a riot.

Kit

So I see you've figured it out.

Caleb

@Kit My hanging out here makes the studious dubious, but thank you :)

Kit

10:51 AM

Are you on a mission in Turkey? I seem to remember something like that...

Caleb

@Kit Something like that. I'm a freelance programmer / system administrator but work remotely anyway and moved to Turkey a few years back in hopes of encouraging Christians in the area and serving the local church.

Kit

Why Turkey? Any particular reason?

Caleb

@Kit I'm not sure anybody has wholly figured out the whole fiasco but it looks like the "a" variant at least is tied off for a few years.

Kit

> This account is temporarily suspended to cool down. The suspension period ends on Apr 29 '14 at 2:34.

Caleb

@Kit No not really. Personally connection with some Turks I met in the states. Involvement of other people I knew. Misc church->church relationships. The need the church here had for some technically minded folks. It all added up.

Kit

10:57 AM

Heh. I've yet to see one that long.

That's pretty interesting. Are you Canadian?

Caleb

@Kit No, American.

Where do you hail from?

Kit

The States, as well. New England.

How different is Turkey?

Caleb

@Kit That explains being up earlier than most EL&L folks :)

Kit

@Caleb That's actually the baby's fault.

Caleb

@Kit Relative to what? I've lost track of things to compare against. İzmir is a relatively westernized city but Turkey as a whole is a clash of cultures ... where east and west collide. You could write volumes about just the variation in the neighborhoods out my current office window.

Kit

11:04 AM

I'd like to hear it. The baby's smearing breakfast in his hair though, so I have to go. Catch you later, I hope.

Caleb

Oh the irony of it all. Why did that user have to ask that question? I've thought of calling him that in comments on his answers and held my tongue.

@Kit Görüşmek üzere :)

Rhodri

11:45 AM

Afternoon all.

Spare Oom

Good morning.

@Rhodri I haven't frequented this site recently and have been reading an older transcript. I'm sad. Are you deleting more today? What happens to questions when the good and accepted answers are deleted?

Rhodri

@SpareOom Yes, I'm doing my five-a-day. I can't delete accepted answers, I have to flag them for moderator intervention. So far, no moderator has intervened.

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