Zendo

John Dvorak

8:00 AM

turn order and stones:

ffao **
mith -*
mics -*
bobo --

micsthepick

im u

p

boboquack

wait, gtg for now, sorry

micsthepick

mondo 111,112,113

true

John Dvorak

You assume Mith wanted to pass

ffao

true

waiting for passes is too slow

if you intend to guess tell others to wait once your turn is done

John Dvorak

8:02 AM

Explicit passes should be fast if we didn't need to remind everyone to do that

ffao

well, yes, but this whole game is so slooow

John Dvorak

Implicit passes break if the guesser is on a slow connection or a really crappy keyboard

micsthepick

like me

both apply

John Dvorak

or if he needs to AFK after posting a mondo

ffao

as crappy as your keyboard might be it's still enough to type "wait"

John Dvorak

8:04 AM

How much of a time frame do we give the guessers to type wait?

Wen1now

wait wait wait

John Dvorak

I'd like to pre-type my master and mash enter as long as the one before me passes

Mithrandir

I'm on a bad connection + mobile + multitasking, so my typing is kinda slow now. 7 seconds for a wait

Wen1now

Internet breaks are bad to all games, yeah?

Just give them as much time as we would in any other game

John Dvorak

explicit passes let us bypass the need for a wait delay

Wen1now

8:06 AM

I had to read that sentence something like 3 times to fully pass it

John Dvorak

anyways .. @mith's guess?

Mithrandir

No guess, I pass

John Dvorak

I mean a guess for the mondo

Mithrandir

Oh

False

John Dvorak

111, 112, 113 is true

micsthepick

8:09 AM

Psdd

John Dvorak

I assume psdd = pass. @ffao

micsthepick

(pass

ffao

master 2, 8, 12

pass

John Dvorak

2,8,12 is false

@mith

Mithrandir

I have to drop out now

I may be back soon, not sure

John Dvorak

8:11 AM

@micsthepick then

micsthepick

Umm

mondo 2,77,46

fseal

John Dvorak

what kind of guess is fseal?

false

@ffao

false

8:14 AM

2,77,46 is true

micsthepick

what?

lmao

John Dvorak

pass?

micsthepick

pass

ffao

master 2, 8, 4

pass

John Dvorak

2,8,4 is false

micsthepick

8:16 AM

what are false

John Dvorak

current known falsities:
1,7,15
2,8,4
2,8,9
2,8,11
2,8,12

ffao

26,7,1

micsthepick

master 2, 4, 8

pass

John Dvorak

2,4,8 is false

What is the triple FFAO posted?

boboquack

Hey, I'm back now

can I join now?

ffao

8:17 AM

that triple is false

John Dvorak

@boboquack Just in turn to make a guess.

boboquack

What's true so far and what's false so far?

John Dvorak

It is indeed, but when Did I say that?

boboquack

26 mins ago, by John Dvorak

26,7,1 is false

John Dvorak

0,0,0
1,1,1
1,2,3
1,6,13
2,2,2
2,77,46
3,1,2
4,8,1
6,7,8
9,5,9
9,9,6
111,112,113

1,7,15
2,8,4
2,8,9
2,8,11
2,8,12
26,7,1

ffao

8:18 AM

27 mins ago, by John Dvorak

26,7,1 is false

oh

master: 1,7,4

1,7,4 is false

What about 2 4 8

Oh no

I think I've got it :P but I don't have a stone

who's next?

John Dvorak

8:21 AM

Next would be FFAO

Wen1now

How so fast?

ffao

mondo 3, 6, 9

guess true

boboquack

guess true

ffao

I'm just mondo-ing so bobo can guess on his turn

micsthepick

true

boboquack

8:21 AM

^^ I could already mondo on my turn :P

John Dvorak

Unfortunately, 3,6,9 is false

boboquack

welp

that kills my rule

ffao

welp.

boboquack

mics next? or is wen playing?

ffao

pass

boboquack

8:23 AM

wait

John Dvorak

Mics then.

boboquack

no, I entered the wrong guess :D

micsthepick

master 2, 3, 5

John Dvorak

2,3,5 is true

boboquack

mondo 21, 5, 15

guess false

ffao

8:25 AM

guess false

micsthepick

true

John Dvorak

21,5,15 is false indeed

boboquack

guess: a koan is false iff it contains two numbers six apart

John Dvorak

Counterexample: 301,604,907 is false

boboquack

ooh

John Dvorak

8:27 AM

@ffao

ffao

master 33, 44, 99

John Dvorak

33,44,99 is false

boboquack

yay, my new rule works

ffao

well, guess: a koan is false iff it contains two numbers whose difference only has digits 6 and 0

John Dvorak

1,13,19 is false

boboquack

8:30 AM

@JohnDvorak 19-13=6

ffao

that's precisely why it is not

John Dvorak

1,11,19 is false

Apologies

ffao

guess: a koan is false iff it contains two numbers an odd multiple of 6 apart

John Dvorak

That's a correct guess

ffao

really? lol

micsthepick

8:32 AM

0 is even

ffao

I was just fishing for examples

John Dvorak

My wording was "no difference of two numbers may be equal to six modulo twelve"

micsthepick

that first one was not the same!

John Dvorak

Bobo's guess was very good, too

"odd multiple of 6 apart" = "difference of 6 mod 12"

boboquack

@ffao did I spark your thinking?

John Dvorak

8:35 AM

brb, count me in

ffao

I saw 1,7 and 2,8 but I was going to experiment more to confirm it

and I didn't see the 6 difference for some reason

so yes, you certainly did

boboquack

o/ for another game

o/

micsthepick

o/

ffao

I'm considering going to sleep

feel free to start without me

boboquack

Sleep? I thought you never slept! :P

Wen1now

8:37 AM

What time is it there

ffao

1:37am

Wen1now

@boboquack 'Sleep is for the weak'

boboquack

@Wen1now 'Sleep is for the week'

Wen1now

Do you remember that though?

boboquack

@Wen1now will you play?

Wen1now

8:40 AM

I've got this really important 'Spiritualism' essay to write

boboquack

Who wants to 'defend'?

John Dvorak

Bobo certainly deserves a good chunk of the win

micsthepick

"be the master"

John Dvorak

FFAO would have the privilege but he's down, so Bobo?

boboquack

OK

Order: micsthepick, John Dvorak, Wen1now

[cursory spot for Wen]

ffao

8:42 AM

what better than experiencing being a Buddhist master to write about Spiritualism

Wen1now

Okay, sure

My spiritualism thing is terrible

'Spirituality is an influence in everybody’s day-to-day lives, whether religious or not. It is a universal human experience, something we all share.'

John Dvorak

You've got to improve by being here

Awaiting a koan space, an example and a counter-example

boboquack

Yes, sorry

had to attend to something

Valid koans: strings in two letters (A and B)

AABB is true

BABAB is false

micsthepick

Master ABBABBB

boboquack

ABBABBB is false

Sp3000

8:48 AM

Oh wow, y'all still going?

boboquack

yep

want to join?

John Dvorak

master AABBAB

Sp3000

Sure, but if I don't respond for a few min it'll mean my battery's dead and skip me

boboquack

AABBAB is true

John Dvorak

no stones

@Wen1now?

Wen1now

8:49 AM

master A

I mean like, it's the most obvious thing to try

boboquack

A is true

Wen1now

Yay, I'm winning!

boboquack

Order: micsthepick, John Dvorak, Wen1now, Sp3000, ffao

micsthepick

It's good to back on computer!

Feeds

boboquack has added Wen1now to the list of this room's owners.

ffao

8:51 AM

whatever, I'll join until I go to sleep

John Dvorak

SP's turn

Feeds

boboquack has added John Dvorak to the list of this room's owners.

boboquack has added Sp3000 to the list of this room's owners.

Sp3000

Give me a sec

boboquack

Isn't everything much better when the whole list is in italics?

Can I make Feeds a RO too?

Sp3000

mondo: AAABBABBABBA

Guess false

John Dvorak

8:53 AM

guess true

ffao

guess false

micsthepick

guess false

John Dvorak

how dare y'all disagree with me? :P

ffao

you disagreed with Sp first

I'm just following him

micsthepick

brb

John Dvorak

8:56 AM

@Wen1now

Wen1now

true

Wait

False

My guess is false

(I didn't actually look at your guesses, please don't accuse me of cheating o_o)

John Dvorak

@boboquack

ffao

I think Wen might be cheating

John Dvorak

Yeah, I think so too

Wen1now

I just realised

With this format of koans, it might be viable to use a neural network to cheat

John Dvorak

8:59 AM

Feel free to register your neural network as a player

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