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John Dvorak

7:00 AM

false

guess false

1 is false

pass

mondo 1234

false

micsthepick

false lol

ffao

7:00 AM

1234 is false

Mithrandir

Let's see if I understood correctly.

Mondo 178

False

John Dvorak

true

micsthepick

true

Wen1now

Just guess false for everything

ffao

178 is false

Wen1now

7:01 AM

One of those scientific-wagers

ffao

wen has a point

Wen1now

Wait, no

Not scientific wager

micsthepick

we should have an order

ffao

this rule is terrible, everything is false, I just want the game to end lol

micsthepick

I can find a true example

Wen1now

7:02 AM

I can't remember what it's called

micsthepick

when it is my turn I can force ffao to surrender one.

Wen1now

One of those bets which is like, if you win then that's good

John Dvorak

Whose turn is it?

ffao

if you didn't figure it out I would tell you how to

Wen1now

But if you lose the bet then the results of that loss would be too great for you to notice

I can't speak to the paper's scientific merits, but it's really cool how on page 10 you can see that their reference GPS beacon is sensitive enough to pick up continential drift under the detector (interrupted halfway through by an earthquake).

ffao

7:03 AM

it's mics's turn

micsthepick

Order: Mics, Mith, JD

mondo 123

false

John Dvorak

false

ffao

@Mith now you should guess whether 123 is true or false

Mithrandir

false

ffao

123 is false

John Dvorak

7:05 AM

quelle surprise :P

micsthepick

guess: 170 and 175 are the only valid koans

Wen1now

Just mondo false everything, and if you get a true you should be too excited to notice

ffao

counterexample: 255 is true

micsthepick

is that all my stones

ffao

um, I wasn't counting, but I guess you have a lot

Wen1now

7:06 AM

@micsthepick If Master wanted to be mean, Master could just give us a false counterexample instead of a true one

ffao

you have one more stone @mics

John Dvorak

@Wen1now not for this guess ;-P

micsthepick

@wen1now how?

Wen1now

They could

Oops

Why am I so dumb?

micsthepick

guess, 170, 175 or 255 are valid koans

Wen1now

7:08 AM

Okay, just ignore me if I say anything dumb

micsthepick

and those are the only

ffao

counterexample: 15 is true

Wen1now

If I say something that actually makes sense, that's when you should listen to me

Can I make some observations?

micsthepick

Okay, its @Mithrandir's turn now

umm

I think it is

Mithrandir

Mondo 20

True

John Dvorak

7:09 AM

true

micsthepick

False

ffao

20 is false

Mith has two stones, want to use any of them?

Mithrandir

(can someone explain how that works please?)

micsthepick

you can make two guesses at the property that ffao has come up with

John Dvorak

You get a stone for a correct mondo guess. You spend a stone to guess a rule.

ffao

7:11 AM

if your guess is wrong, I'm forced to give you a counterexample

if the guess is right you win

Mithrandir

Ah, OK. That's what I figured.

(thinking)

Can I do another Mondo or is that not allowed?

ffao

no, only one per turn

either mondo or master

Mithrandir

And I can pass?

micsthepick

Yes

Mithrandir

Alright, then I'll pass

micsthepick

7:14 AM

right now

ffao

@John

John Dvorak

mondo 165

true

Mithrandir

false

ffao

@mics ?

micsthepick

sec

false

ffao

7:16 AM

165 is false

@john guessing?

John Dvorak

pass

ffao

your turn @mics

micsthepick

mondo 2

false

John Dvorak

false

Mithrandir

False

ffao

7:17 AM

2 is false

micsthepick

guess: 170, 175, 225, 15 are the only examples

Wen1now

255?

I'm pretty sure it was 255

John Dvorak

ffao

counterexample: 65535 is true

micsthepick

Ohh well

guess: all known examples are the only ones.

Mithrandir

7:21 AM

Sorry, AFK

ffao

counterexample: 4294967295 is true

Mithrandir

Back in a couple

Wen1now

'Anything that is randomly mashable is true'

micsthepick

pass

John Dvorak

4294967295 is a very specific number...

Wen1now

7:22 AM

65536^2-1

master 250

Or 2^32-1

@ffao ?

250 is true

pass

though we're getting somewhere finally :P

micsthepick

7:25 AM

master 550

ffao

550 is false

micsthepick

pass

mith is afk

I'm back now

mondo 65440, true

True

7:29 AM

True

ffao

65440 is true

John Dvorak

does Mith wish to play before I guess?

Mithrandir

Go ahead

John Dvorak

Guess: the hex representation only contains the digits 0xF, 0xA and 0x0

ffao

that is right

micsthepick

7:29 AM

Nice

Mithrandir

...o_o

John Dvorak

65440 = 0xFFA0

ffao

65440 is the most true number of all, clearly

micsthepick

considering the rule maker, yes.

John Dvorak

Who else but him would use this rule? :P

micsthepick

7:31 AM

:PP

ffao

this game is nice because it's auto-balancing in a way

John Dvorak

Valid koans are triples of integers. 1,2,3 is true. 1,7,15 is false.

ffao

if you pick a rule that is too narrow, the players can use their stones to force you to give counterexamples

like mics forced me to

micsthepick

ffao

master: 1, 3, 2

John Dvorak

7:34 AM

true

micsthepick

the first shall be last, so I think @Mithrandir is up

Mithrandir

Master: 6, 7, 8

John Dvorak

true

brb

micsthepick

Mondo 9,9,6

True

ffao

guess true

Mithrandir

7:40 AM

False

Any other players?

I don't think so

9, 9, 6 is true

Guess: sum is divisible by 3

John Dvorak

counterexample: 2,8,9 is false

@ffao

ffao

7:43 AM

that isn't a counterexample

Oh, right, sorry

ohh

2,8,11 is false

master: 3, 1, 2

7:45 AM

true

Master: 4, 8, 1

pass

Whoops

4,8,1 is true

Didn't mean to press enter

micsthepick

7:46 AM

Apparently I'm playing Pokemon go ATM also

John Dvorak

@micsthepick your turn

should we skip him?

micsthepick

master 1,1,1

John Dvorak

1,1,1 is true

micsthepick

I'm lagging a little

pass

John Dvorak

@ffao

ffao

7:50 AM

master 1, 6, 13

1,6,13 is true

pass

@mith

Master: 26,7,1

26,7,1 is false

7:52 AM

Wait

is that actually a koan

John Dvorak

triples of integers

micsthepick

i thought it was digits

John Dvorak

My own false example used double-digits

Your turn, Mics

micsthepick

Mondo 2,2,2 true

ffao

true

John Dvorak

7:55 AM

@mith

True

2,2,2 is true indeed

pass

@ffao

master: 0, 0, 0

7:57 AM

0,0,0 is true

micsthepick

positive?

boboquack

Hello! Can I join?

ffao

true is the new false

John Dvorak

Hello Bobo, you'll join after Mics

0,0,0 is definitely true

micsthepick

but 0 is not a positive int

Mithrandir

7:59 AM

Master: 9,5,9

boboquack

Anyone got a list?

John Dvorak

9,5,9 is true

0,0,0
1,1,1
1,2,3
1,6,13
2,2,2
3,1,2
4,8,1
6,7,8
9,5,9
9,9,6

1,7,15
2,8,9
2,8,11

boboquack

Or the turn order?

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