Zendo

pass

mondo: lily, true

false

12:46 PM

false

false

false

lily is false

mutter. pass

Sorry was doing something

master: book

12:49 PM

(I just realised we kinda skipped over as4, who's back now oops)

oh. oops.

@as4s4hetic you're up

(I'll answer dc's after as4 has a go)

master: fingerplate

fingerplate is false

(guess/pass?)

(btw thanks for editing Rubio :P)

pass :P

12:52 PM

k, re: dc's

book is true

@dcfyj guess/pass? (you can always guess for counterexamples if that helps)

guess: words are two syllables or have consecutive letters of the same type (ie. ...ss...)

Counterexample: starvation is true

Plenty of counterexamples to that one

I know hummer was false

My issue is that I intuitively know the rule. but I don't know what the rule is...

Export it as a set of synapse weights

12:55 PM

(3 stones left - continue guessing/pass?)

thinking

You could still hoard mondo stones until you formalize your rule :P

With the way my brain works that's not going to happen

pass

Sid

My only problem with this game is it tends to stretch too long.

Which one doesn't?

12:57 PM

Nothing wrong with a long game, this is pretty casually paced, which I like

except codenames with NP SMing :p

@ASCII-only your turn

(I admit that this is harder to hit than I thought it would be - should have made it a bit simpler in hindsight)

I like numeric ones

How complex can the rules be?

12:59 PM

As complex as someone has a chance to guess

So it could be super complex

Well not so complex that it's completely arbitrary, ideally. If you can state it in a nice, succinct way then it's probably okay

"SHA256 hash of the word is divisible by 2" is not a good rule, though

since given enough time any rule can be guessed

@JohnDvorak yeah, I meant word rules, not password ones

@ASCII-only

skip?

Sid

1:01 PM

That is my point really. This game is basically guess what I am thinking but with clues.

I guess, seems to have poofed

Sid

So, the time is variable

Skip for now I guess

master yearbook

At least you can mondo for all the counterexamples

In this one

1:02 PM

@Sid Think of it as a sequence puzzle that gets more examples as you go

yearbook is false

pass

@as4s4hetic Your turn

@JohnDvorak need to sleep now :/

(Or ASCII can take their turn now)

1:07 PM

Oh uh

master: weird

weird is true

huh

(guess/pass?)

pass

I'm literally just doing random guesses lol

k - I don't think as4's around atm, so @Rubio?

1:09 PM

here o/

nvm :P heya

master: leek

pass

leek is false

master: painful

painful is false

1:10 PM

pass

list of words?

fabric
missy
slingshot
tweeted
hooted
sissy
book
starvation
weird

cloth
roost
pizza
abacus
rubric
onomatopoeia
mastic
fibre
cacophonous
tanked
brr
noun
trombone
tacked
hummer
random
catapult
bookkeeper
twitter
lily
fingerplate
yearbook
leek
painful

(given ones obviously)

master: car

car is false

guess: words have at most 5 "holes" in them (ie. a has 1 hole, book has 3)

lol, car disproves that, oops lol

1:13 PM

Counterexample: arpeggiation is true

interesting word

so if I say at most 10 holes, can you come up with a word for that too? (you don't have to answer I'm just joking)

pass

He could resort to providing negative examples

I assume ASCII is out?

Wait my turn again?

Hang on

^ what John said (I'm just doing positive examples currently to make things a bit easier)

@Sp3000 ... and it's clearly working. ;)

1:16 PM

master: ignorance

ignorance is false

@Rubio (you can lynch me later if you want :P)

@Sp3000 No it's not, it's bliss

We'll all do

Forgive me if I disappear for longer than intended, shutting down laptop now

@BusinessCat welcome the the infinite game of guess what

1:18 PM

(Guess/pass? Or too late now?)

Business Cat

ohai

Oh pass

Stones (see order): 2, 2, 1, 2, 3

mondo leak false

true

1:18 PM

false

false

@as4s4hetic Still around?

(Probably won't wait too long, will move on in a min)

cat, did you want in?

k, leak is true

I really hate my brain lol

1:21 PM

welp

I guess I'll just copy DC's guesses

I know it, but I don't...

pass

I've been wrong once methinks

still a better chance of success than random or always false

(I'm guessing as4's out again, so Rubio can go for now)

1:24 PM

master: speak

pass

speak is true

master: out

out is false

guess: letter count in words is greater than 3 and vowel count (with y) is greater than 1

@ASCII-only I wasn't done lol

Everyone pls ignore that I posted a message just now

1:26 PM

denial :P

ew, what's wrong with me

I wrote then instead and than...

twice

Counterexample: prompts is true

(vowel count = 1)

hehe, that took a bit

@dcfyj aren't half the existing words counterexamples

@ASCII-only no

4+ letters for the whole word and 2+ vowels (with y) fits all the given true words

except for now prompts

also plenty of false words

1:28 PM

pass

master: denial

denial is false

I should probably try harder

mondo wax false

false

1:30 PM

false

false

Oh, he's back

o/

You know, it'd make life easier if you said when you left instead of just poofing

false

1:31 PM

wax is false

pass

Stones (see order): 8, 7, 7, 8, 6, 3, 1

I have 3 not four

You gained one from "leak", used one, then gained one again just now right? :P

I used one in between no?

1:32 PM

(Or did Rubio edit in the "leak" one)

@dcfyj I won't be poofing again, had an angry parent yelling at me to do stuff

i deducted it, yes

oh well, whatever

er. sorry. I added the leak one

k, well fixed then :)

as4's turn

1:33 PM

(thinking, not poofing)

:P

master: stab

stab is false

pass

@Rubio

1:36 PM

If we all Mondo'd we'd have like 30 stones each lol

mondo: peak, true

true

Yeah I was expecting a lot of mondo'ing by now :P (I'd relax the rule to make it easier, but that would be bad form)

problem is I have no idea what to guess at with the stones I have

true

1:37 PM

@Rubio indeed

true

@ASCII-only Guess for "peak"?

true

peak is true

(updated stones)

one sec

nope. pass

1:41 PM

word list?

fabric
missy
slingshot
tweeted
hooted
sissy
book
starvation
weird
arpeggiation
leak
speak
prompts
peak

cloth
roost
pizza
abacus
rubric
onomatopoeia
mastic
fibre
cacophonous
tanked
brr
noun
trombone
tacked
hummer
random
catapult
bookkeeper
twitter
lily
fingerplate
yearbook
leek
painful
car
ignorance
out
denial
wax
stab

master: seek

seek is false

guess: words have an odd number of straight lines (ie. leak has 5)

What do you count as straight lines?

1:44 PM

Wait how does "leak" have 5 straight lines? I'm counting 1 for l and 3 for k