Zendo

I'm up for a game

also up, but I'd like to guess since I never guessed

12:34 AM

@thecoder16, @boboquack, @ffao - I'd be happy to play a game

o/

welp, have to go now, sorry, hope there's still enough people

:/

aww

aw.

:(

12:37 AM

we can play with 3, can't we?

or not?

yeah, we can

do you want to be the master?

We could ping the list?

Sure, I'll be the master.

Lemme think of a thing though.

Alright. Koans are a 5x5 grid, some of whose squares are filled. (We'll use Xs and -s.)

Yes:
XX---
-----
X----
-----
-----

No:
X-X--
-----
X----
-----
-----

@ffao, @micsthepick

@Deusovi 0/10 use Ctrl+K to align pls :P

12:46 AM

mondo, guess false

OOOOO
OOOOO
OXOXO
OOOOO
OOOOO

guess false

(slightly updated - dashes make it easier)

@ASCII-only, you playing?

@Deusovi No, I have something to do

alright then

I don't know why I'm still in chat :P

12:48 AM

want me to kick you? :P

GO DO YOUR THING!

anyway, it was true. Neither of you gets a guessing stone.

> you'r

there go all of my theories

(plural, because I had a few)

@micsthepick?

thinking

12:50 AM

Wait can I play :P

go do your work

It's not very much though :( just need to make sure I keep track of the time

mondo guess false:
-----
-----
-----
-----
-----

@ffao?

how do I get it to render in monospace?

12:51 AM

guess false

@micsthepick ctrl + k

ctrl+K

If I'm allowed to play: guess true?

once again, it was true. Neither of you gets a guessing stone

oh, are you playing? alright then, you get a guessing stone

Master:

X----
-----
----X
-----
X----

12:52 AM

rule: everything is true, except for the second example

(not a serious guess)

@ASCII-only That is false.

back to @ffao

master:

--X--
-----
-----
-----
-----

That is true.

@micsthepick?

Mondo guess true:

--X--
-----
--X--
-----
-----

Guess true

12:55 AM

ffao?

guess true

it is indeed true, and you all get a guessing stone

yay

Master

(no guess)

12:56 AM

X-XX-
-----
X----
-----
-----

That is false.

Okay, I'm going to use a guess then I guess

Alright.

wait :/ never mind I still need more testcases

Okay. @ffao?

12:58 AM

-X---
-----
-----
-----
X-X--

master

That is false.

guess: a buddha-natured board doesn't contain three filled vertices of an isosceles triangle

~~O_o~~ nvm forgot what's true and what's false

That is correct!

so this is False:
   --X--
   ------
   X-X-X
   -----
   --X--

12:59 AM

(Or, stated how I thought of it, "all distances are unique".)

@Deusovi :/ hang on, counterexample I think

XX-XX
-----
-----
-----
-----

No isoceles triangle here

that's a degenerate isosceles triangle

Destructible Lemon

@Deusovi wait a minute, that's a different rule :O

depends on what you consider to be a triangle

Destructible Lemon

@Deusovi no it's not...

1:00 AM

yes it is? do you know what "degenerate" means in mathematics?

Destructible Lemon

I do

oh wait

...crap

:P

oh well

ah, indeed that should be a counterexample

1:01 AM

sorry about that, wasn't thinking right

so, um... let's forget this happened

wow, yes, you got it! the rule was that it doesn't contain three vertices of an isosceles triangle!

wow, I'm so good at this!

Damnit I should have guessed on the first round :P

be back in about an hour maybe

1:03 AM

I was nowhere close to that rule

sorry.

you two want me to think of a rule?

But I don't really want to be Master anyway because I'd take a few hours to come up of a good rule :P

> student who made the guess wins, and becomes the new Master for the next round

So yes (if you want)

...@ffao?

is a game happening?

koans are words

Yes: awesome
No: mark

1:10 AM

master: lark

that is false.

@ASCII-only?

Can I join?

Sure! Know how to play?

I think so... read the rules :)

1:11 AM

Master: snark

That is false.

me next?

Yes

master: tweet

that is false.

1:12 AM

master: some

that is true.

Mondo: more, true

false

false

<- has no idea what the rule is :P

1:14 AM

it was true

ASCII gets one stone

~~Guess: four letter word?~~ wait nvm what oh well

?awesome is?

counterexample: mark, lark, awesome

wrong guess, awesome is true

master: bean

1:15 AM

bean is true

oh, my turn

master: seen

seen is true

Summary for myself:
True: awesome some more bean seen
False: mark lark snark tweet intersect

:/

Master: intersect

that is false.

master: panther

1:19 AM

that is false.

oh, sorry

master: sect

That is false.

master: crop

that is false

master: bones

1:21 AM

stop merging my messages, chat

bones is false

master: intersection

intersection is false

master: raise

raise is true

master: praise

1:23 AM

praise is true

master: inters

inters is false

master: sprawl

sprawl is false

master: rise

1:24 AM

rise is true

@deus?

sorry! a bit distracted

master: rase

rase is true

master: spun

spun is false

1:26 AM

master: wise

wise is true

master: rose

rose is true

mondo: prose, true

true

1:27 AM

wait :| what about me

oops, jumped the queue... sorry ASCII

oh

bad Alconja

pause mine. don't respond ffao

master: calculator

1:27 AM

calculator is false

True: awesome some more bean seen raise praise rase rise wise rose
False: mark lark snark tweet intersect intersection panther sect crop bones inters sprawl spun calculator prose

guess true

mondo: prose, true

true

it was false, none of you get stones

huh.

1:28 AM

:(

@deus' turn again, now the order is reordered

whoops, thought i sent it

master: roses

roses is false

looks

Mondo: table, false

false

oh, that says mondo

false

@ffao?

1:32 AM

it was false, you all get a stone

Okay, guessing time

Guess: false = <50% vowels

finally :P

that is correct

oh

:) gg

nice

1:34 AM

Anyone up for another game?

still here

have to go for a bit

Hang on, preparing (if @Alconja is staying)

Okay, ready. Do we have three players?

Yep

I am able to play exactly one round

True: 1024
False: 1000

1:39 AM

Who goes first?

Anyone

master: 1001

1001 is true

What numbers can we guess? Any positive integer, or only four digit ones?

@Wen1now your turn

Any number

1:41 AM

master: 1

1: False

does "any number" include stuff such as -1 or pi?

Wait nvm, any integer

positive integer? nonnegative integer?

(this is why it's important to say what a valid koan is at the beginning)

master: 2

1:43 AM

Hmm to make it ~~easier~~ less complex then I suppose nonnegative integer

easier?

2 is true

master: 3

3 is true

master: 10

1:44 AM

10 is false

master: 100

100 is false

Hmm, I have some thoughts

mondo 0, guess false

They're probably wrong though

guess true

1:46 AM

2 mins ago, by ASCII-only

Hmm to make it ~~easier~~ less complex then I suppose nonnegative integer

0 is nonnegative

0 is nonnegative

Oops :/

0 is true

mondo: 4 guess false

4 is true

1:48 AM

I don't get a guess? .-.

huh?

Is Deusovi playing

oops :/ I need to be less distracted

Can I join?

sure

master: 5

Use !join

1:50 AM

@ffao I guess I'll just give a free stone for the inconvenience? :P

summary for boboquack

True: 1024 1001 2 3 0 4
False: 1000 100 10 1

Already got that

I would have guessed correctly, so I think that works out fine

So wen is on 2 stones, everyone else on 1 I guess, shouldn't make that much of a difference :/

I'm on 1 stone

1:51 AM

I'm on 0 stones

I'm giving 1 stone to everyone for not realizing wen1now did another mondo (Unless there's something in the rules about this)

Wait a sec, I guessed incorrectly - do I still get a stone?

@Wen1now Yes, one stone shouldn't make that much of a difference anyway

I don't particularly care, if we're giving bobo one stone for not guessing at all

I think we should just continue with the game now :P

Okay, then ffao your turn now

1:55 AM

5 mins ago, by ffao

master: 5

Oops

5 is true

@boboquack your turn

I'll waste my guessing stone because I want a counterexample: all powers of 10 are false

@ffao that's not very specific

6 is false :P

thanks, now I have a more diverse false set

1:57 AM

Mondo 33 - guess false

wait crap

^^ again?

... I think it's false

maybe

@boboquack oops :/ sorry

@Wen1now what do you think

guess false

1:58 AM

33 is false, everyone gets a stone

Yay

Guess: False iff digit sum congruent to 1 mod 5

bbq, are you taking a guess at the rule?

Counterexample: 12 is false