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11:01 AM
I'm not surprised though. Hollywood churns out so much crap.
@Wipqozn Seeing as I've finished the end of Season 3, is Torchwood worth watching?
@ArdaXi It's supposed to be. I've only watched episode 1 myself. I just have no way of watching it outside of DLing the episodes. Otherwise I would have watched more of it.
@Wipqozn Yeah, that's how I've been watching Doctor Who.
I would watch through Doctor Who first
that way when it comes back at the end of the month you're caught up
27th, apparently.
Interesting title for an episode.
11:09 AM
Well, Hitler is in it.
Also, that mini episode with the Fifth Doctor in it was weird.
Yeah... it was lol I enjoyed it though.
Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey.
However, I'm stuck on how to name it now.
I mean, the Christmas special is 04x00.
So what does that make Time Crash? 04x-1?
No idea. It was made for a childrens charity.
Also, those "What? What? But... what?" scenes are brilliant.
11:16 AM
HOw did you like the master?
Well, that was a brilliant episode (three-parter, cruel, I wanted to go to bed early last night) but it made me feel really bad to see the Doctor after a year had passed.
@ArdaXi I must concur. The scene where he comes crawling out, and he has the dog bowl, is a really powerful scene.
@Wipqozn Yeah.
11:21 AM
The third season finale might be my favorite. I'm torn between that and the fourth one, since they are both quite excellent.
@Wipqozn I'm on the Titanic now.
Good episode.
I really need to pick up seasons 1, 2 and the specials.
Yeah, I'm missing a lot of the specials.
the specials meaning the ones which play after season 4, but before season 5
There are 36 specials in total.
11:27 AM
Yeah, but their is a DVD released as "The Specials" or something along those lines, which contains four the tenth doctor specials released between seasons 4 and 5
Let's see, between 2008-07-05 and 2010-04-03
Hm, not in there.
err,. five. not four
The Next Doctor, Planet of the Dead, The Waters of Wars, End of TIme parts 1&2
@Wipqozn Those are part of Season 4.
Yeah, but they are sold separate from series 4.
11:43 AM
I find it ironic that I went to Gaming to get a header-link to chat because it was one of the only sites without a new blog post.
@Grace my Chantelise progress has halted because I'm busy fishing :[
@FallenAngelEyes I reiterate that you sound like my brother. Although, now he has bought almost everything at the fishing shop that you can get without progressing too far into the Zephyran Ruins
Which is better than I, since I've only gone so far as to purchase a couple select items yet I'm in the end-game.
Oh, @Fallen, on that note...
I want the new pole!
Ah, nevermind, I've got the info I need.
...lmao. God bless gaming for out of context quotes.
11:48 AM
Imagine how out-of-context it would've been if you mentioned you wanted an old man's pole.
I don't understand how this answer has received 3 up votes.
A: Who's the brown dinosaur in Braid?

e-MEEI think he is original to Braid, I checked the wiki and the braid blog but didn't find anything

Well, apart from the possibility that it's correct, it's also noting that there was research done in all of the standard official places.
"I think" isn't an answer. Not to mention the fact the Braid wiki does have some information on it.
@Wipqozn That sounds like something you should counter the answer with, either as a comment or as your own answer.
I'm planning to
writing it up now
11:53 AM
As it is, though, you can "think" as an answer. Conjecture is fine, especially if you're backing it up with your own (however weak) research.
In my opinion it should be a comment, and I flagged it as such. Any answer that is "I think X because I couldn't find any information on it" isn't an answer.
@Wipqozn It wasn't "I couldn't find any information", it was more of a "I checked these sources and they imply there isn't anything important"
It's a very insubstantial answer, but it's still an answer. Downvote it for that if you will (and I believe you already have).
I have. I'm leaving a comment now, I'm just trying to word it nicely.
But, if you allow conjecture as answers, where do you draw the line? I saw this was up for over a month until I flagged it.
I disagree with you though, I don't even think it's an answer.
11:57 AM
@ArdaXi That isn't really conjecture as to the solution, though.
@GraceNote To me, it seems like that's exactly what it is.
It didn't help that the post was completely wrong
You couldn't "cut through" the knot, you had to go the long way around.
It's conjecture as to what one should be thinking of the solution - a hint, at best.
Then one could, for example, post "I don't think it's solvable" as an answer.
If it even said anything about what you could actually do to apply that conjecture in the game, then it might've had something.
11:58 AM
Is there anything wrong with hints? I think so, but it's arguable. A wrong hint, though...
I'm not sure how to finish this comment
> Although I appreciate the research you did, the wiki does contain some information. Furthermore, I really think you should convert this to a comment, not an answer.
Since I want to convey "I think isn't an answer"
but I don't want to say that, since it's fairly harsh.
@ArdaXi Sometimes the answer to a question is "It can't be done". Just like most people are willing to go further to prove that it can be done, it probably helps one's case to figure out why it is not solveable to propose such.
@GraceNote Well, yes, but just stating it like that doesn't add any factual information, only information on what the answerer thinks, and might stunt others' research.
@ArdaXi Which is why we have downvotes.
And comments, too, where you can say "Can you at least back your reasoning?"
But just saying 'I think' should only support an answer, not make up the entire answer. Hence, it should be a comment.
12:02 PM
Man, I'm now craving for Colin Mc Rae 2.
Not for the game, but for its menus.
@ArdaXi Exactly. Thank you. I was trying to think of how to put my thoughts into words, and that's exactly what I wanted to convey.
except... there's nothing to base your answer on, then.
Only the game devs can now answer it.
@badp Exactly. That's why it shouldn't be an answer.
For example.
12:04 PM
@ArdaXi That wasn't an argument for your thesis, just something that'd come out of it.
A: Plants-vs-Zombies gameplay speed

Juan ManuelI don't think this is possible sadly.

In my opinion, this adds nothing at all. There's nothing to base it on, and I'm fairly sure it is possible, albeit incredibly difficult.
Why does it? You might've missed the switch somewhere.
"There's no switch" is a perfectly fine answer.
But this isn't "There's no switch"
This is "I think there is no switch."
"How can I add the cow class to Team Fortress 2?" "You can't."
The former I'd be totally fine with.
12:07 PM
@GraceNote your link is wrong. There are ITG this game questions in there. Quite a few in fact.
We've got an upcoming blog article on comments and answers, actually. No estimated time of arrival.
Well obviously you can but it's a very theoretical "can." It's not even worth the effort to explain how that could happen.
@Wipqozn The URL borked
Apparently the search doesn't work correctly.
If you notice, it shows 561 results instead of the 541 I cited.
See the search bar in the top right?
Add [] brackets around the "identify-this-game", but after the - that is in front.
(In other words, make that particular search term -[identify-this-game])
12:08 PM
At any rate - I changed Juan's answer. NEEEEEEEEEEEXT
@GraceNote MY mistake, and my apologies.
Here's the proper link.
@Wipqozn No need to apologize (thrice, no less)
@badp Slightly better. Still doesn't answer the question, but it's getting there.
The question is "is there any way to increase the speed of gameplay in Plants-vs-zombies?"
are you doing this just to delete it again?
12:10 PM
I think there is.
@RonanForman nice job on coming in on a high note.
@Wipqozn Which is something I noted.
I really need to copy paste what I say, so I don't type half a point.
Since I try to break it up so it's easier to read
@Wipqozn I do that some
Whether you say "<answer>" versus "I think <answer>", you're going to need good information to back it up either way in order to have an actual good answer.
12:13 PM
@GraceNote I'm looking through some of those answers, and the posters have reasoning outside of just "I think". My issue with the answer I raised is not just that it was "I think", but as @ArdaXi said it was his entire answer. He did some research, but his research produced no information, so it didn't provide anything to back-up his claims.
If he said the exact same answer, without the words "I think" in front, would you really think it actually as a much more substantial answer?
I was just thinking about that actually, and you may be right.
But part of the problem is if you state "he is original to braid" without any sources, it's still not a good answer but (to me at least) it at least implies you have confidence in your answer. When you put "I think" in front, it's the same thing as saying "I'm not sure".
@GraceNote I still would think it would be better off as a comment.
> Although I appreciate the research you did, the wiki does contain some information. Furthermore, I really think you should convert this to a comment, not an answer. You should be careful when posting an answer without any reasoning to back up your claim.
How does that sound?
12:17 PM
@Wipqozn I'd suggest replacing "need to" with "should", sounds a bit more polite.
Hm, what's a disputed flags? A flag I marked as invalid that actually wasn't?
@ArdaXi changed.
Any other suggestions, or is it fine as it is?
@badp I think that's when someone counter-flags.
@badp When someone flags a post with flags as "invalid", it makes all flags on it "disputed"
I see.
12:18 PM
@Wipqozn Looks good to me.
Only 10k users and moderators can do this because they're the only ones who can see flags in the 10k tools.
So flag + invalid flag + dismiss valid/invalid = no flag weight changes at all for anybody involved?
@badp Exactly
@ArdaXi me as well. POsted it.
I would post an answer, but the wiki doesn't cite any sources.
12:26 PM
Wow, synchronised room entry. Beautiful.
vector space model is giving me a headache
That can't be good.
12:39 PM
Just checking, do you guys think I'd make a good mod, cause my sockpuppet suggested applying but I don't think it'd be a good idea
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Great nominations so far
@Manaಠдಠ okaaaaaaaaayyyyy.....
@JuanManuel Yeah, i just want to upvote all of them, but that kinda ruins the point
@RonanForman Do YOU think you'd make a good mod?
@RonanForman you will only have 2 votes though
12:41 PM
@Wipqozn I don't know....
@JuanManuel not in the first section (if more than 10 people apply)
@RonanForman If you want to run just run. If people don't think you'll be a good mod, then they won't vote for you.
No need to give up before you even try.
oh man, I have so many vintage weapons.
need to sell.
Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!
no odd-levels though :(
12:43 PM
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
That reminds me, I need to finish that. I read the first one, but I have only read some of the second.
oh, I have a level 1 vintage glenngarry bonnet. sweet.
And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
And as in meta thought he stood,
the Jeffatwood, with eyes of scorn,
Came waffling through the spolsky wood,
On balpha's unicorn!
Beware the Jeffatwood, my son!
The words that bite, the posts that catch!
Beware the diamond birds, and shun
The frumious unicorn!
12:46 PM
@Grace @Arda Bravo! claps
Q: What is the 17th achievement in Bloons TD4 for iPhone?

StephenI have played through all the levels and challenges on the iPhone 4 version of Bloons TD4. I have only received 16 of 17 achievements, and the last achievement is not visible. Game center shows 1000 of 1000 points earned, and googling didn't turn up any answers, so I'll pass it to you, what is ...

I'd go on with the "Hast thou slain the Jeffatwood" but that's a bit macabre.
The Disney version did mispronounce the 'slithy' though.
@ArdaXi @GraceNote you guys should probably post that in the English chat.
12:50 PM
@Wipqozn Meh, not really my kind of place.
@Wipqozn I wouldn't vote for me, I'm never in meta, I don't play games much, I hate making decisions and I'm always bias against myself
Hey guys. Quick raise of hands: World of Warcraft Guides - close as non constructive?
@ArdaXi I've never really gone there myself, but I know they all hate atwood apparently.
@Wipqozn Don't we all?
@badp I thought we allowed that one.
@Wipqozn It's more complicated than that
12:51 PM
Yes, but based on today's standards, would you still keep it open?
@badp It's sort of a recomendation question isn't it.
@badp I'd say close it.
@ArdaXi Yeah, we have other guide questions. So if close that, you would need to close all of those too.
It's just asking for "a guide" and that's very vague.
Okay, I'll put it on a list of questions I'll look at later.
12:53 PM
@FallenAngelEyes That's the same with most clever jokes
@FallenAngelEyes hahaha.
@RonanForman I'm mostly laughing at the actual bumper sticker anyway
@Wipqozn Yes, but the answers that question got stink.
I guess I'll go ahead and prune the answers then.
12:56 PM
I thought that we allowed asking for guide resources in lieu of allowing actual guide questions because of subjectivity/no best answer issues.
@badp I don't think an answer should define the question, but I believe we've had this discussion before.
I mean, for one they're list-of-x questions, and not really great ones at that. Each one has a really broad variety of answers that can pop up, and even more as time goes on.
It seems there's a lot of confusion on the subject. Perhaps we should have a Meta discussion to recount what our interpretations are and see what we think right now.
What bothers me is that this question has 8 answers
and they vary wildly in quality
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah we have a sizable amount of guide questions. I've answered one myself.
12:57 PM
@badp It's because there's no "correct" answer
Q: How can we sculpt character/strategy build questions?

Grace NoteIn this question, we softly addressed the acceptability of the subject. There's no contribution other than my own answer, and it's not exactly a very attended post, but build questions haven't really come up all that often since the start of the site. Assuming for a moment that we're still okay ...

Compare GalacticCowboy's answer with Kevin's, I mean.
@GraceNote Yeah that's the best idea. It really is a shopping rec question.
Also, I feel as though it would be more helpful if instead of asking for guides on other sites, the person was asking for us to make a guide through a series of questions.
We never really came to a consensus on that question
12:58 PM
@Manaಠдಠ I like that idea. Better then pointing them away from the site, more so if it became a broken link.
My comment on Raven's answer indicates why I've never personally asked build questions here.
@Wipqozn It was actually @Fallen's note yesterday about how telling people to not visit our site for something is weird that got me thinking that idea.
@Manaಠдಠ Yeah, I remember that. When we were discussing raven dreamers meta question.
@Manaಠдಠ The problem here is it's all a little subjective. It's not always a bad thing to direct people to other resources. After all, SE is about making the internet a better place, right? We're here to supplement existing resources with our own knowledge and expertise, not necessarily replace them.
Hence why we can exist concurrently with GameFAQs.
Also we're uh, less obnoxious than the general audience of GameFAQs. >_>
Yeah, but we don't like answers that just are a link either :)
1:03 PM
@FallenAngelEyes I know. I was more saying that in this particular instance, there is an alternative to asking for guides, which is asking a series of questions, which, when taken together, act as a guide.
Right, which is why we should always encourage people to at the very least quote rather than link, so we have the information here.
Q: How long did Chell sleep between the two games?

Atilla FilizThere are clues saying Chell was suspended for an unusually long period. Is there any information saying how long is very long?

Sorta like how we're doing Chantelise
Although we can't really ask you to summarize a twenty pages long guide in an answer asking for a bunch of guides
But yeah, I've never asked a guide/build question here myself because I was always under the impression that it would be too localized given the amount of variables, like I said in the comment on @Raven's answer. No one commented further, so...
1:05 PM
Even if you succeeded in the feat, that's not what the asker wants.
Except @badp now!
@FallenAngelEyes I just have.
@GraceNote I really like how that has worked. Has been an excellent idea.
I'm just kinda sad that Diablo 3 would be the next game we'd want to cover this way, given the shenanigans being pulled.
or at least, one title that's almost guaranteed to be on the list.
@badp I'm pretty bummed, I had really really wanted to play that but the DRM stuff really makes me not want to support them with my money. :/
1:07 PM
@badp Eh?
Always-online DRM, no mods, etc.
@badp Shenanigans?
Oh, that stuff
Mostly, I think it's a great opportunity to help promote the site with questions, but the only way to protest this stuff is with your wallet. :(
1:08 PM
(That said, my question was actually about the "cover this way" part)
@GraceNote By playing the game and asking questions about it?
@GraceNote Asking several questions to build a repository that would make a good overall guide
otherwise I'm oblivious on what's being special about our try with Chantelise.
There's nothing special about Chantelise other than the fact we're getting questions. We didn't try anything with Chantelise
As it were, the way things are turning are pretty much how I've expected the vast majority of games to be - if I look through the game tag, I'll basically be in the guide I want.
@GraceNote It's worked out really well, and we should do it for other games.
1:10 PM
@Wipqozn Basically all it's been is like... uh... 3 of us asking/answering questions about it.
with @Grace doing most of the answering
Competitive games have all the layers of strategy and counter strategy that compose their question yield, while other games, especially single player, should ideally follow this very construct.
@Mana doing most of the asking because I've been drastically sidetracked with fishing...
@FallenAngelEyes Indeed it has, but it's worked out really well. If we make it a point to do this for future titles, I think it would draw a lot of visitors to the site. Plus like @GraceNote and @Mana have said, it would essentially create a guide.
It's of very little surprise to me that the two highest-viewed questions for are "How do I beat Volcanicrab" and "How do I beat the final boss?"
@FallenAngelEyes that's because @GraceNote is awesome.
1:12 PM
@Wipqozn "Apparently"? :P
@Wipqozn Of course. I'm so awesome you need two moderators to replace me. ♪
@GraceNote Exactly.
@Manaಠдಠ fixed :P
merci beaucoup
oh dear, my father has linked me and my sister to an article about some drug that would cause permanent sterilization when taken. The subject email was "Watch what you drink." A few lines below, in the original article, the blogger writes "Obviously this drug doesn't exist." ._.
1:14 PM
@badp Well, such drugs do exist, but people hardly come into contact with them.
@Manaಠдಠ you probably should have linked this as well
hmm, the armory account is nearly full already.
@ArdaXi I think permanent sterilization takes a bit more than a pill, given that even animals are not given pills to make them sterile.
@Wipqozn Hah! I hadn't seen that before.
HEy, @ArdaXi... want a drink?
1:15 PM
@badp Ever heard of chemical castration?
They have to physically mess with the genitals. I'm sure that if they could avoid that, they would.
Oh man, Gaming drinking party!!!
Wait, shouldn't we hold this after the mod elections are done?
@Manaಠдಠ Who knows!
@Manaಠдಠ If we do it before people may be more likely to vote for you.
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1:16 PM
@Wipqozn ooooooooooh.....:(
@Manaಠдಠ sorry :P It was just the perfect opening.
It's still possible, at any rate. Just very uncontrollable.
Still nothing of value to a rapist.
Which is what the email chain claimed.
@Arda It's a classic.
1:19 PM
@badp Why would a rapist want to sterilize his victim?
Oh no, don't tell me Arda and badp are going to get into a fight over this somehow. That would be the worst.
there's only one way to find out
The actual worst.
That's the chain email in short
1:20 PM
@ThomasMcDonald that better not be a harry hill reference.
There's nothing to get in fight over. It's just plain old stupidity.
@badp Hasn't stopped you guys before... badumtsh
@badp This was not what I expected to tab back into here.
We strive to keep things varied and interesting!
@badp @ArdaXi He's calling you plain stupid!
1:22 PM
@RonanForman You think I didn't see that? What are you, plain stupid?
I still hold strong to the theory @ArdaXi and @badp are secretly in love with each other. They do fight like an old married couple after all. I wonder...
@Wipqozn Come over here, there's some fan-fiction I want to show you.
@Wipqozn @badp does have a thing for mermaids
Well, we're definitely not married.
@Manaಠдಠ comes over I have some of mine too...
1:23 PM
@ArdaXi but the mermaid thing is true!
@ArdaXi At least not until @badp actually is here in the country. Then this shall be remedied.
@FallenAngelEyes The real reason @badp is going to the netherlands.
@ArdaXi I thought it was established that there was going to be a wedding
Sorry @FallenAngelEyes, since you made a similar joke before.
This puzzle is impossible...
1:24 PM
@ArdaXi The puzzle of your love for @badp?
@Wipqozn Nah, Tim and the princess.
@ArdaXi Close enough.
HAve you not played through Braid before @ArdaXi?
@Wipqozn No apology needed. Their love needs to be echoed from the hilltops and sang through the ages!
@Wipqozn Not completely.
I got to the world of Braid where you could reverse time by walking in a different direction. Then I gave up because it was giving me a splitting headache.
1:26 PM
@ArdaXi Shame. I have one star left to get, but it's one where you need to keep your game runnig for 2 hours. Which I don't want to do with my xbox.
I never would've got that.
@ArdaXi I won't say say much more, but you need to idle. Don't trust the xbox enough to do it.
@Wipqozn The one with the moving platforms?
@Wipqozn You've never played a game for longer than 2 hours?
@ArdaXi that's most of them
1:30 PM
@Fallen Well, in this particular puzzle you need to sit around for two hours doing nothing.
@Manaಠдಠ I can't imagine that uses more processing power or causes more heat than actively playing the game for a 2 hour stretch :o
I hadn't really thought of that. I guess it makes sense!
Wow, Humble Bundle #3 surpassed $2 million
yeah, I still need to buy it, which could be awkward
I have no money.
1:33 PM
@ThomasMcDonald You've only got 12 hours left
see above
Less even, I think
If you really wanted to, you could pay $1 for it and then donate to the devs/EFF/CP later independently when you have the cash to do so
How come @Grace hasn't gotten a "Welcome to the team" blog post yet? :(
@ThomasMcDonald do you want HB #2 as well?
@FallenAngelEyes Uh... uhm...
1:37 PM
Yes @grace?
Oh nothing ♪
because I seem to recall you bought me #1 a while back @ThomasMcDonald
morning @grace
@FallenAngelEyes Oh silly you, she's been in the team for ages!
1:44 PM
Woah, it's tzenes! Hey man. Are you considering doing another one of those mod question threads for this round?
'lo, @tzenes. How you feeling?
@Mana I'm sure I'll be around
Heya @tzenes
Hi @Fallen
Where've you been?
1:45 PM
@tzenes What's wrong?
@Ronan personal health problems
@fallen I've been around, trying to help where I can
glad to hear your recovering then
@tzenes That sucks. :( Hope things go better soon!
Is anyone here going to make it out to PAX?
1:46 PM
Nay, trying to go to Gamescom though :)
@FallenAngelEyes No, it's probably not a problem. I'm just paranoid with my xbox. Considering all the hardware problems it has.
Well, I'll be at PAX if anyone can make it out :D
@Wipqozn Understandable
@tzenes Take pics for a blog post :D
@tzenes oh good, you answered it.
This SC2 question was up for almost 3 hours before you answered it. I was worried.
@Wipqozn I had an original Xbox 360 (first shipping) it lasted for 4.5 years and then I bought a slim. I used to leave it on for days at a time before I learned you can have a "turn off after 6 hour idle" option
I still manage to answer the occasional question
anyway, I need to get to work
1:51 PM
Later @tzenes, hope you feel better soon
Later, @tzenes. Take care of yourself.
Q: TF2 - Engineer Tips?

Nottinylil(here we go again) I was wondering if there was some tips I was missing for engineering, I don't know what, but I keep getting blown up by Demomen, good spys sap my stuff, arrgh. Simply put: Any tips for Engi?

I think Hat films are the only people who could entertain me by building a bridge from dirt for 20 minutes

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