The Nineteenth Byte

Optimizer

10:00 PM

@FlagAsSpam you did not.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Console.Write("Message "); String s = Console.ReadLine();

ev3commander

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anOKsquirrel

@TimmyD Never said what language to use the answer in tho

quartata

@El'endiaStarman You don't, really.

ev3commander

guess what THOSE are

FlagAsSpam

10:00 PM

SLOWLY move your cursor up from the caret in the message below the ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

@Mego That doesn't seem to work in CoderPad.

quartata

You can get input with Console.ReadLine()

But you can't evaluate it like Python does

It'll just be a string.

@El'endiaStarman ?

ev3commander

@FlagAsSpam un-starable

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I dunno if CoderPad does weird stuff but that's how it should work

El'endia Starman

@Mego coderpad.io/Z9JTQAQQ

FlagAsSpam

10:01 PM

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Zero-height. ^

quartata

@El'endiaStarman ideone.com/fork/8vck9V

anOKsquirrel

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quartata

@FlagAsSpam I'd star that but I literally can't.

I can't get my mouse over the star button.

Optimizer

@FlagAsSpam ಠ_ಠ just do the zero height one and leave it there. dont post anything else until someone else has posted above and below your zero height

ev3commander



FlagAsSpam

10:02 PM

Oh, well, yeah, because it has to show my name.

It's just a half-box on its own..

Optimizer

@FlagAsSpam see!! the same with mine

such a tubelight.

FlagAsSpam

No. Yours is a full box.

no

‮

10:03 PM

lel

FlagAsSpam

Nope.

El'endia Starman

@quartata I actually don't like ideone's interface very much.

Rainbolt

FlagAsSpam wins.

FlagAsSpam

dances

quartata

@El'endiaStarman Right, I just wanted to show you that it does work.

What was your code in coderpad?

Optimizer

10:04 PM

@FlagAsSpam dammit mine is 1 mm longer!

FlagAsSpam

o-o

ev3commander

\u200b

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman It's a CoderPad issue, you can't do console input

Anonymous

@Optimizer ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

@quartata Here: coderpad.io/Z9JTQAQQ

But it looks like I'll have to find another website.

FlagAsSpam

10:05 PM

@Mego

Optimizer

@Mego I seriously want to ignore you so please dont ping me with weird reaction to unrelated messages.

Anonymous

@Optimizer There's a button for that

FlagAsSpam

I'll give you a hint to my unicode character - there's literally nothing there. xD

Optimizer

not on web

ev3commander

:DDD

FlagAsSpam

10:07 PM

Oh god what've we done?

Anonymous

ev3commander

U+200B :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

FlagAsSpam

Not my character.

ev3commander

Optimizer

@ev3commander that is zero width char.

ev3commander

10:07 PM

yeah

Optimizer

not the same

ev3commander

aka u+200b

FlagAsSpam

zero-width ≠ zero-height

ev3commander

still

FlagAsSpam

That's the common one anyways. :P You can still do it with about 600 other unicode characters.

(I counted. :D)

ev3commander

10:09 PM

fffc

FlagAsSpam

fffc?

ev3commander

ﾠ

U+FFFC

SuperJedi224

And the whole setup is just a trap to capture escaping logicians. None of the doors actually lead out.

FlagAsSpam

> Who's the liar?

> I am.

> mind explodes, the labyrinth wins

ev3commander

(That's the stabber)

FlagAsSpam

10:11 PM

No.

ev3commander

.

Optimizer

why was that starred o.O

FlagAsSpam

ಠ_ಠ that lagged my chat.

ev3commander

FOO

@anOKsquirrel

FlagAsSpam

The reversal char works in my terminal. .o.

ev3commander

10:13 PM

:O

:package:

Huh

Rainbolt

:(

Optimizer

@Rainbolt awww

ev3commander

looks like no emojis here

FlagAsSpam

😃

ev3commander

:[

Rainbolt

10:15 PM

The html for FlagAsSpam's message is just <div class="clear-both" style="height:0"> </div>

ev3commander

☺☻

FlagAsSpam

:D

Optimizer

@Rainbolt sanitized, control char removed

ev3commander

style="height:0"

Thomas Kwa

If I'm making a simple challenge, is it customary to prefix the title with "Simple"?

usandfriends

10:17 PM

How do you add the tag-like styling?

Optimizer

@FlagAsSpam do it one more time!

FlagAsSpam

hiss

Testing some other chars. c:

ev3commander

hi

:l

SuperJedi224

@AlexA. Hello

Alex A.

@SuperJedi224 Hey!

Optimizer

10:19 PM

that was \u0000

ev3commander

i did it with inspect element

FlagAsSpam

@AlexA. Hello... is it me you're looking for...

Optimizer

but how did u even get it to copy?

usandfriends

Ah it's [tag:king-of-the-hill]

FlagAsSpam

Don't have to.

Alex A.

10:19 PM

@FlagAsSpam Uh... nope. :P

Optimizer

@FlagAsSpam so that was u0000 ?

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ Wow.

�

@Optimizer Ya.

how do you type that?

Alex A.

10:20 PM

@FlagAsSpam Haha <3

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Pairs of normal and inverted exclamation/question marks code-golf string Challenge We're going to give exclamation and question marks inverted buddies! Given a body of text containing sentences ending in ., ?, or !, prepend inverted question marks, ¿, to interrogative sentences (sentences e...

FlagAsSpam

With magix.

Like that. ^

ev3commander

+1 @newsandboxedposts's logo

ajax?

post

Alex A.

It was drawn by @PhiNotPi, along with that of New Main Posts and the other chat feeds.

ev3commander

foo

FlagAsSpam

10:21 PM

Huh.

Optimizer

I missed it, how do you write it?

FlagAsSpam

Would've thought the escape character did something funky.

@Optimizer

Optimizer

I meant your original zero height one

FlagAsSpam

Yeah.

Magic.

Actually really simple on Mac. xD

Optimizer

so u0000 is your original zero height?

FlagAsSpam

10:22 PM

Yes.

ev3commander

Optimizer

ok

FlagAsSpam

It's uncopyable. So don't try. xD

ev3commander

guess what i did

Optimizer

FlagAsSpam

10:23 PM

hiss

Well done.

You gets cookie.

Optimizer

cjam helped me!

0c then drag and drop output

FlagAsSpam

ಠ_ಠ cheater.

Optimizer

because windows wont copy anything below 0020

FlagAsSpam

No cookie for you.

Side note: I can't think of an OS that does.

Mac doesn't.

Ubuntu doesn't.

SuperJedi224

Optimizer

10:25 PM

but on windows, unicode are hard to type as well. ascii code is easy to type

Rainbolt

Someone who figured it out should post because meta.stackexchange.com/search?q=zero+height+chat

FlagAsSpam

I figured it out originally, I think. ;)

Optimizer

flasp figured

FlagAsSpam

I'll ask for a fix. :P

Rainbolt

I knew the trick eight years ago but I don't want to spoil it

Optimizer

10:26 PM

well, even before that, we figured the u202 one

FlagAsSpam

@Rainbolt o_o

Optimizer

@Rainbolt yeah yeah, thus your trial for   :P

just accept your loss

Alex A.

I wish I could vote to close homework assignments as too broad.

FlagAsSpam

^ I do that.

Optimizer

I want to close them as homework assignments itself

Alex A.

10:27 PM

Haha

Rainbolt

My approach to homework and tests: Did the rest of the class have as much trouble as I am having? If yes, the professor is the problem. If not, I'm the problem.

Justin

^

Alex A.

I agree with your sentiments. In this case I don't have a problem with the material or anything like that, it's more just that I don't want to do this project.

Rainbolt

Is it a "Do whatever you want" project?

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Alex A.

Yeah

Rainbolt

10:29 PM

Now the pressure is on to do something cool

Alex A.

Exactly

I'm not particularly interested in the course but it's required in the program.

Rainbolt

I had projects like that. I enjoyed the ones where we had to run the topic by our professor during the first week of class. He would actually spend five minutes talking about it with you individually to make sure you were not doing something stupid.

I did not enjoy the ones where I didn't know if I was doing the right thing until I got my grade

Alex A.

> make sure you were doing something stupid

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I assume you mean "weren't"?

Rainbolt

Lol, whoops

Alex A.

-5 points, this is insufficiently stupid

SuperJedi224

10:31 PM

Getting ready to submit my largest apgsearch haul thus far

Alex A.

@SuperJedi224 I have absolutely no idea what that means but good luck!

SuperJedi224

I'm stuck using the python version because I couldn't get the C++ version to compile properly :(

According to the website, the C++ version is supposed to be significantly faster

Rainbolt

apgsearch.com ?

SuperJedi224

@Rainbolt No, catagolue.appspot.com/apgsearch

El'endia Starman

@Rainbolt I'm suspicious of the fourth person.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

10:33 PM

Salut ^_^

El'endia Starman

Greetings!

SuperJedi224

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Bonsoir.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@SuperJedi224 o-o

How goes it here?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Simple ASCII Representation of a Screw Head TODO: Story Inputs are a string and a number. If the string is "Slot", the number will be 0, 60, or 120. If the number is 0, output --; if it's 60, output /; if it's 120, output \. If the string is "Phillips", the number will be 0, 45, 90, or 135. I...

SuperJedi224

Well enough.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

10:34 PM

That's fine :D

Alex A.

> Dependencies: Python, Golly

Well golly gee whiz, mister!

Doorknob

@AlexA. Winterbash countdown

@Doorknob :o

About 28.5 hours.

Wait, really?

10:36 PM

I actually really like how they applied boids to numbers.

Doorknob

How'd you figure that?

feersum

How can the C++ version be only 7 times faster than the Python one?!

Alex A.

Only 7 times faster.

That's a hell of a lot faster.

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob Gimme a moment to get the current number.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's obvious: C++ is too long. It would be faster in C >:3

@AlexA. Except Python is usually x100 or 1000 times slower than other languages

Doorknob

10:37 PM

@El'endiaStarman 17363 minutes

That's ~12 days

Thomas Kwa

@feersum Python isn't slower by about a constant factor

feersum

Maybe the Python one is a wrapper around some C routines which do most of the work.

Thomas Kwa

^

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob [smacks forehead] Dropped a factor of 10 when I did the calculation earlier.

Thomas Kwa

Sometimes, the Python interpreter is bad at optimizing something because it doesn't have the builtins, but other times most of the time is taken by system C calls

SuperJedi224

10:38 PM

@feersum The python version is a plugin for a cellular automaton simulator program

feersum

@SuperJedi224 Yeah I figured

What problem did you have compiling C++?

SuperJedi224

Well, Command Prompt choked on the makefile, Cygwin32 choked on the actual C++ code, and Cygwin64 successfully compiled it- into a nonfunctioning executable.

Alex A.

See, the problem is that you're using Windows.

Do you have GNU Make installed? Makefiles just hang otherwise.

Happened to phase too.

SuperJedi224

Yes I do.

feersum

> a4d6b924 Fixed pathological bug caused by dirty rake exhaust.

Alex A.

10:42 PM

Well that's not cryptic

feersum

You shouldn't be running a makefile with Command Prompt directly.

Do make .

SuperJedi224

@feersum That's what I did.

Thomas Kwa

Wow, it looks like we don't have a US state -> two-letter abbreviation challenge.

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa I think that's a subtask of an existing challenge, maybe?

feersum

I remember one involving that.

Alex A.

10:47 PM

^

Thomas Kwa

There's codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/38499/… but that's closed and was a popcon

feersum

It was one of those occasions when people started to think their code might be used to do real-life work and got agitated.

Yeah that one.

Rainbolt

Here's the actual link for the question: codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/38499/18487

Thomas Kwa

There was "States and Capitals"

Alex A.

@AlexA. Why is this starred?

Rainbolt

10:48 PM

@Rainbolt Oh, hello self. Didn't see you there!

Thomas Kwa

thanks @Rainbolt

quartata

@ThomasKwa AdministrativeDivisionData[Input[],"StateAbbreviation"]

mathematica amirite fellas

Thomas Kwa

@quartata wait is that actually?

quartata

@ThomasKwa Yep.

Thomas Kwa

Hmm

I don't know if that wins, actually

quartata

10:51 PM

Probably not.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Number of electoral votes from state name Given the name of a state of the United States, return the number of votes the state has in the Electoral College. Write a full program or function, and take input and output through any default I/O method. Here is a list of all inputs and outputs (sour...

Thomas Kwa

Dennis' answer to the chemical element ->symbol question was 200 bytes, and this is much easier, because all state abbreviations are derived from the names.

I sandboxed that because I thought we already had an abbreviation one^^

SuperJedi224

@ThomasKwa Technically, all element abbreviations are derived from their names as well. Just not necessarily their English names.

TanMath

@Mego I fixed the code - ideone.com/fork/U95Wmo

Thomas Kwa

"Technically that sentence started with 'well', so--" "Ooh, a rock with a fossil in it!"

@SuperJedi224 I'm guessing that wasn't intentional, because you didn't use italics

quartata

10:54 PM

@ThomasKwa I think you got the wrong answer

Thomas Kwa

@quartata why do I keep doing that? this is the one I meant

El'endia Starman

Somehow, those who wrote Microsoft's Arrays in C# tutorial neglected to mention how to append to arrays...

quartata

@El'endiaStarman I think it's just .Append

Doorknob

okay Vim sucks

quartata

I know StringBuilder does that too

Doorknob

10:56 PM

you know why?

>>> :q!
  File "<stdin>", line 1
    :q!
    ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

quartata

@Doorknob ಠ___________ಠ

Doorknob

this is why

quartata

@Doorknob That's Python silly

Doorknob

I do this way too often

SuperJedi224

Also, the count has reached 1.35 million soups.

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VisualMelon

10:57 PM

@El'endiaStarman You don't

Thomas Kwa

^^ is excellent without context

(to anyone from the future who is confused: @SuperJedi224 was talking about counting Conway's Game of Life patterns by running simulations of large random boards called "soups")

SuperJedi224

I intend to answer this question. Eventually.

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Q: Paint a still life (or a moving one) - draw an image in the Game of Life

You are given as input a greyscale image. Your task is to find a static or looping pattern in Conway's Game of Life that resembles the input image as closely as possible. Your output can be either a still image or a looping animation in some format that can be converted to gif. The output image ...

feersum

@ThomasKwa Don't help the future people!!!

They are our enemies.

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