The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

00:00

WHAAAAAT

Doorknob

^^^^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Dennis ಠ_ಠ

anOKsquirrel

wHAAAAT

Alex A.

@Dennis Oh damn son you done did it

anOKsquirrel

wait whoops

phase

00:00

I'm way too lazy to download a new browser and lo into all my accounts on all the websites I go on.

Anonymous

3

anOKsquirrel

3

Dennis

I'm not kidding. I used IE until Chrome came out.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Let the jury speak.

3

Alex A.

For me, Safari > Chrome > Firefox > literally everything > IE

Anonymous

00:01

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm torn. I like Dennis, but I want a chance at winning golfs.

2

Anonymous

@AlexA. So Edge > IE?

Doorknob

@AlexA. you would rather view the HTML source code than use IE? :P

Alex A.

@Mego Idk what Edge is

@Doorknob Yes

anOKsquirrel

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ majority rules, let's kill him

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Yes, actually.

Anonymous

00:02

@AlexA. New browser with Windows 10, it farts on IE's face

Doorknob

you people are weird

5

Alex A.

@Doorknob Yes

phase

Vivaldi looks awesome, but no Win32.

Alex A.

@Doorknob And you're one of us. >:D

@phase Vivaldi looks like a festering turd.

(Just kidding I didn't even click the link)

phase

@AlexA. The UI looks gorgeous

Alex A.

00:03

> Are you a keyboard person? Then Vivaldi is your delight.

@Doorknob ^

Doorknob

function keys? ew

Alex A.

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Which browser? {poll}

Alex A.

> Vivaldi unique is that it is built on modern web technologies. We use JavaScript

lol

phase

rofl

anOKsquirrel

00:06

@phase You're on the floor, but you typed that. seems lefit

Alex A.

phase

@anOKsquirrel yes me

anOKsquirrel

read the edit, sorry

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

32 secs ago, by anOKsquirrel

@phase You're on the floor, but you typed that. seems lefit

"lefit" :3

2

anOKsquirrel

whoops

phase

00:07

@anOKsquirrel my desk isn't too high to not reach from the floor

Pietu1998

You're missing Mosaic, Lynx, elinks and friends on the poll

anOKsquirrel

@phase seems legit

phase

no im lefit

2

Alex A.

NinjaKit would be a lot more useful if there was a way to install userscripts.

Seadrus

is that everyone? strawpoll.me/5975492/r

Doorknob

00:08

oh I didn't do that yet

... how do I vote there's no vote button

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thanks @Seadrus :D

anOKsquirrel

Voted

@doorknob remove the r in the url

Doorknob

ok

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

lol HTML source code > chrome ATM

2

Alex A.

wtf even is gossamer

phase

00:09

my http client is written in Java

Alex A.

> Now that’s a double treat – your e-mail client built into your web browser.

No thanks

Doorknob

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

phase

but i realy wana chek mai emails whil watchin u tubs

4

Seadrus

I use chrome skrubz

Alex A.

00:12

> u tubs

hahaha

phase

i no i am so funy

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

lol wtf: chart.googleapis.com/…

Alex A.

?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Views shaded according to country

Alex A.

Views of what?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:14

@THEDOCTOR HI

@AlexA. Oh, my blog :P

TheDoctor

shameless plug

hi conor

Alex A.

So you're plugging some malware you wrote? :P

anOKsquirrel

Not malware...

It doesn't harm the runner

Just another victim

Alex A.

> password cracking script

Sounds like malware to me!

TheDoctor

lol it's not malware

anOKsquirrel

00:16

@AlexA. not your password tho

TheDoctor

for security researchers

Alex A.

Riiiiiiight

anOKsquirrel

k

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

kthxbai

anOKsquirrel

Nah, not malware technically

It doesn't harm your computer in any way

TheDoctor

00:17

@AlexA. malware is invasive, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware

Alex A.

I know what malware is ;)

TheDoctor

^_-

anOKsquirrel

@TheDoctor Processing ftw

Alex A.

People actually use Processing?

anOKsquirrel

^ yes

It's amazing and cool and things

Alex A.

00:18

That's false but okay

anOKsquirrel

I do!

I used it for a few game jams

Alex A.

No you don't

anOKsquirrel

yep

TheDoctor

processing == yes

phase

let's all code javascript and call ourselves hackers

anOKsquirrel

00:21

Processing != js

TheDoctor

carrot.png

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

MY HEADPHONES BROKE D:

anOKsquirrel

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ mine work

I even spilt them in pepsi

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

......

anOKsquirrel

earbuds though

The pepsi still tasted good

The earbuds didn't taste so good

3

TheDoctor

00:23

yum

Alex A.

@Doorknob how i install ur script halp

Doorknob

@AlexA. wut skript

Alex A.

enfurno

Doorknob

1. get a sane web browser

tell me when you've finished that step :P

phase

@AlexA. un fuego

Alex A.

00:24

ಠ_ಠ

TheDoctor

> chrome

Doorknob

or firefox

or... anything but Safari

TheDoctor

or chrome

Alex A.

@Doorknob IE?

Doorknob

even Opera would be better

TheDoctor

00:25

@AlexA. strawpoll.me/5975464/r

Doorknob

@AlexA. yeah good luck getting that on your Mac :P

Alex A.

Internet Explorer for Mac

Internet Explorer for Mac (also referred to as Internet Explorer for Macintosh, Internet Explorer Macintosh Edition, Internet Explorer:mac or IE:mac) is a discontinued proprietary web browser developed by Microsoft for the Macintosh platform. Initial versions were developed from the same code base as Internet Explorer for Windows. Later versions diverged, particularly with the release of version 5 which included the cutting edge, fault-tolerant and highly standards-compliant Tasman layout engine. As a result of the five-year agreement between Apple and Microsoft in 1997, it was the default browser...

Doorknob

...

I'm scared

Alex A.

I used to use Safari on Windows back in the day

TheDoctor

ooooooo marklevinson.com/productdetail/~/product/n53.html

Doorknob

00:27

it's... a speaker?

Alex A.

A public speaker

phase

@TheDoctor why would anyone vote against executing @Dennis?

Alex A.

At conferences and shit

TheDoctor

@Doorknob no it's a hifi amplifier

Alex A.

@phase I would never execute @Dennis.

phase

00:28

@AlexA. ok fine, we'll just lock him away forever

Alex A.

no

y u tak ma dannis

phase

he ma dennis now

Alex A.

noo

it liek movi Takn

with leem neasin

TheDoctor

uh erh

Alex A.

> Sry

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:31

lol

TheDoctor

money

Alex A.

@Doorknob y

y invalid

TheDoctor

dennis execution is still winning

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

We need to contact PPCG's execution squad.

3

feersum

We should not execute Dennis. He might contain malicious code.

12

TheDoctor

00:38

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/240/the-nineteenth-byte <-- everyone go here

Alex A.

@Doorknob Inferno doesn't always show the timeline. :(

It actually doesn't seem to work consistently on every page.

feersum

0 <-- x

Alex A.

That might be an issue with Tampermonkey or Safari permissions though.

TheDoctor

shiny bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/09/…

Sp3000

00:54

@Calvin'sHobbies Once again, you've found bugs in my interpreter. You're amazing, Calvin.

Doorknob

@AlexA. to be honest I don't even use Inferno :P

Alex A.

@Doorknob ...oh. Why not? You wrote it. :P

Doorknob

because it is not particularly useful

Alex A.

Haha alright then

I installed a userscript manager so that I could try Inferno. Uninstalling everything right now, about to wipe my HDD, sell my car, and sleep in a tent in my back yard.

4

Anonymous

@AlexA. What's wrong with that?

Anonymous

01:02

Seems reasonable

Alex A.

I might eat some beans first

Alex A.

01:17

@BrainSteel Would you mind having a look at this if/when you get some time? You mentioned you recognized an issue with how the code detects mismatched brackets.

If I'm lucky you'll offer to fix it, otherwise if you know to fix it but don't want to or have time to do so, I can do it (you just need to tell me how). Otherwise I'll just leave it.

This is what happens when I try to implement a programming language in a language I don't know.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I never knew the A. in your name stood for anything @AlexA.

Alex A.

Haha you just thought it was a trailing letter? :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ that and that recursive thing XD

Anonymous

It stands for .A xelA, duh

Alex A.

Obviously.

Digital Trauma

01:22

sigh... I think my all-time longest answer codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/63561/11259

Alex A.

Maybe the longest code golf submission in history.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Wait, it's not in Java!?

TheDoctor

or BF!?

Pietu1998

HTML source code > Chrome CONFIRMED

Digital Trauma

I'm sure there's longer, but probably much smater

Anonymous

01:28

Curses, my exp(z) idea has already been done

Anonymous

3

Q: Wait, but what's e^N?

Objective: The objective is to calculate e^N for some real or imaginary N (e.g. 2, -3i, 0.7, 2.5i, but not 3+2i). This is code golf, so, shortest code (in bytes) wins. So, for example: N = 3, e^N = 20.0855392 N = -2i, e^N = -0.416146837 - 0.9092974268i The letter i shouldn't be capitalized...

Alex A.

> smater

TheDoctor

@Pietu1998 not anymore

Alex A.

If that was intended to be "smarter," that's quite ironic.

Pietu1998

@AlexA. So my longest code-golf is 868068 bytes. Should I be worried?

4

Digital Trauma

01:29

@AlexA. I have nothing to say

Alex A.

@Pietu1998 Please see a doctor

@DigitalTrauma :D

Digital Trauma

@AlexA. perhaps just one sed replacement too many, thats all

Alex A.

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

How do I change the % in a milestone on GitHub? :P

Alex A.

I didn't know milestones existed until yesterday

TheDoctor

01:32

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ git gud

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TheDoctor ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Add more issues for the milestone or close the existing issues

Alex A.

Went to pay my credit card bill, realized payment is 4 days overdue, myocardial infarction, realized minimum payment was $0.

TheDoctor

what.

Alex A.

(Myocardial infarction == heart attack)

TheDoctor

01:35

but i don't understand credit cards

Alex A.

Ok

Can't help you there

Anonymous

@TheDoctor Credit card: you spend money you don't have and then have to pay it back with interest

TheDoctor

just gibe bitcoinz pls and thx

El'endia Starman

@Mego Only if you don't pay the full amount.

Pietu1998

@TheDoctor How about Dogecoins?

El'endia Starman

01:37

Here's how to properly use credit cards: don't spend money you don't have.

Alex A.

@Mego Or in my case, you spend money you do have so that you can always pay it back and have a perfect credit score. :D

El'endia Starman

^ that too.

TheDoctor

@Pietu1998 yes that too

Anonymous

@AlexA. That makes too much sense

Alex A.

You're right, I should stop

@isaacg Did you know that Doorknob made a REPL interface for Pyth?

isaacg

01:43

Where?

Awesome!

Alex A.

github.com/KeyboardFire/pythi

Anonymous

Wait, Pyth didn't have a REPL before an online IDE?

Anonymous

Also blatant advertisement:

Anonymous

Seriously

Discussion about golfing in Seriously and its successor, Actua...

isaacg

@Mego Pyth is designed for whole programs only. The IDE runs whole programs.

Anonymous

01:47

@isaacg Ahh

Anonymous

The REPL was the first thing I made for Seriously :P

Anonymous

It makes testing stuff very nice

isaacg

@AlexA. I see, you need to clone pyth into the directory called pyth.

Alex A.

Oh, okay. Good to know.

isaacg

I just finished making a program that takes a Pyth program and creates its abstract syntax tree

Alex A.

01:50

Does the interpreter not do that?

isaacg

Nope

It has no intermeditae representation at all

Alex A.

Pyth5 does though, right?

Pietu1998

I think there's the alternate interpreter that does that

isaacg

Yeah

But for now, there's this.

Pietu1998

github.com/orlp/pyth5

Anonymous

01:52

Yay for making a stack-based language, where ASTs are trivial

Sp3000

@Pietu1998 No, because it means you've never done anything in Unary, which is a good sign :)

Also for 2D languages: what's an AST? :P

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Pietu1998

@Sp3000 I created Lenguage. Does that count? :D

BrainSteel

@AlexA. I think this solves the mismatched brackets problem.

Sp3000

Oh god, I forgot about that

Alex A.

01:54

@BrainSteel :DDDDDD

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 AST?

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Abstract Syntax Tree

El'endia Starman

Ah.

Anonymous

Compiler stuffs

BrainSteel

@AlexA. :D Should be a fairly easy fix. If the open_quotes counter is ever negative, something has clearly gone wrong.

El'endia Starman

01:55

.....yeah, 2D languages don't really have one. :P

isaacg

Abstract syntax tree

In computer science, an abstract syntax tree (AST), or just syntax tree, is a tree representation of the abstract syntactic structure of source code written in a programming language. Each node of the tree denotes a construct occurring in the source code. The syntax is "abstract" in not representing every detail appearing in the real syntax. For instance, grouping parentheses are implicit in the tree structure, and a syntactic construct like an if-condition-then expression may be denoted by means of a single node with three branches. This distinguishes abstract syntax trees from concrete syntax...

Anonymous

It's more like an abstract syntax digraph for 2D langs

Alex A.

@BrainSteel Have I told you lately that I love you? Come here for an awkward hug.

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Sp3000

^^ I know it as syntax rather than symbol, but same thing yeah

Anonymous

@Sp3000 Err yah, syntax is right, I used the wrong symbol

Alex A.

01:56

@Mego It was a syntax error

Anonymous

@AlexA. You're a syntax error

BrainSteel

@AlexA. Just bought my plane ticket to Seattle. This better be a damn good hug.

Alex A.

@Mego D:

BrainSteel

:D

Alex A.

@BrainSteel Oh it will be. It'll be awkward as fuck because that's how I roll.

Sp3000

01:57

Actually the concept of ASTs kinda breaks down for self-modfying code in general :P

BrainSteel

Good. Two awkwards makes a not-awkward.

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Anonymous

@BrainSteel Sure let's go with that

BrainSteel

Man, 4 starred messages in a row in one conversation? That's gotta be some kind of record or something.

Seriously

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