The Nineteenth Byte

3:03 AM

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popularity-contest Make a Brainf*** derivative There are many popular BF derivatives, such as TinyF***, 2L, etc. Your challenge is to make your own BF derivative. This is a popularity contest, so the highest-voted answer wins on [date]. Out of ideas? Check out this list: Try minimization. Tho...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Github is the facebook for programmers :P

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quartata

@NewSandboxedPosts Too bad Martin already made Brian and Chuck.

That would win so fast lol

You should probably add a couple rules about how you should showcase the language

Sp3000

^^ I was going to say the same thing

quartata

Mayhaps "Hello, World!" or FizzBuzz or somethin'

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A: Write a Program that Writes a function BUT in a different language!

Malbolge to JavaScript ES6, 71 bytes ('&%@9]!~}43Wyxwvutsr)Mon+HGi4~fBBdR->=_]:[875t4rT}0/Pf,d*((II%GEE!Y}Az It's always fun to generate Malbolge code.

wat

Does this actually take input?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Thanks! Any suggestions?

@quartata Yup!

quartata

3:07 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ jeez

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Haha yup.

quartata

Aside from that, you might want to say something about hosting the code in case it is too long to fit in an answer

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ cool, thanks.

phase

Anyone want to solve my bugs for me? Ima go grab a snack

TheDoctor

@phase fix your fenced code blocks and we'll talk

undergroundmonorail

3:12 AM

you messed up your markdown

phase

@TheDoctor fixed :P

SuperJedi224

I just realized I accidentally included my old test scripts with the source release, so I just removed them. All the source for the actual library is still there.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata 48 rep behind now ~

Alex A.

@phase You indent with tabs?????

phase

@AlexA. WHAT WHERE KILL THE TABS

Alex A.

3:15 AM

@phase github.com/phase/o/blob/master/static/o.js

Blame Kirby I guess

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

should-we-blame-doorknob

phase

@AlexA. oh no I wrote that file a while ago and for some reason it was tabs and I kept meaning to change it but never did

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Damnit I read the following on github message and thought the same thing. I wanted those delicious stars...

TanMath

What is the ಠ_ಠ language?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego XD

Alex A.

3:17 AM

@TanMath The most disapproving programming language ever to exist

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TanMath

Then I shall learn it!

phase

@AlexA. Is it a real language?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase Everything is a real programming language.

TheDoctor

esolangs.org/wiki/%E0%B2%A0_%E0%B2%A0

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Top 10 Programming languages used in Popular websites

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number 2 like wtf

TheDoctor

3:24 AM

THERE'S A HAM RADIO STACK EXCHANGE

undergroundmonorail

delicious

phase

Who is red-green on GitHub?

Alex A.

ham.stackexchange

@phase TheDoctor

TanMath

@TheDoctor where do I learn this language?

TheDoctor

@phase me

@AlexA. yes

phase

3:24 AM

@TheDoctor oh hi

TheDoctor

@phase why did you have to golf the source code???

Alex A.

He doesn't want to be able to read it later

TheDoctor

@AlexA. or anyone else

phase

@TheDoctor The original interpreter (on the java-interpreter branch) wasn't. Kirby came to me like "I remade part of it in C", and we've been working on it ever since.

@AlexA. github.com/phase/o/pull/17

orlp

fun fact time!

n^5 ≡ n (mod 10) for any nonnegative integer n

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phase

3:28 AM

@orlp that's actually pretty interesting

Can't tell if mod is removing my stars or my connection sucks blame-alex

orlp

>>> 124278487**5 % 10
7

Anonymous

@phase nonono you're doing it wrong

orlp

:)

Anonymous

alex-is-wrong blame-doorknob

Anonymous

Get your memes straight

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phase

3:31 AM

"I wouldn't arm ISIS" oh no der senater

Alex A.

@phase I haven't removed any stars today. Must be your internet I guess? Idk, I haven't seen a bad connection affect stars.

undergroundmonorail

stars are in space and much too far away to establish a reliable connection to my wifi network

phase

@AlexA. The stars on chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/25318131#25318131 were going crazy.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

8 Optical Illusions to Freak Out Your Brain

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phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ y u post dis trash

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

3:35 AM

it's sooooo cool

I sowee

Good night!

undergroundmonorail

'night

phase

k bai

SuperJedi224

3:49 AM

I think I should rezip the docs because having them unzipped is messing up github's code count

phase

@SuperJedi224 Don't put zips in git and just push the source

SuperJedi224

But having the html docs in there unzipped was messing up github's code count.

Is there a way to tell github to ignore certain directories in the code count?

phase

what code count?

if you have more html than java, it will tell you you have more html than java

SuperJedi224

But the actual project is java, not html

phase

in a file called .gitattributes, put *.html linguist-vendored @SuperJedi224

SuperJedi224

3:56 AM

I already have a pregenned .gitattributes. Where in the file should I insert that line?

phase

just at the bottom

SuperJedi224

Thanks.

Waiting for github to accept the changes...

Done. Thanks again.

Well, goodnight everyone.

phase

o/

Anonymous

Hey @phase, could you lend me a hand?

Alex A.

Are you in need of 3?

Dennis

4:09 AM

Anonymous

@AlexA. Some jobs are too much for just two hands

Alex A.

:O

phase

@Mego totes

Anonymous

@phase Can you help me figure out why permalinking isn't working in the Seriously online ide?

phase

has Cookies'n'Creme Hershey's bar

@Mego is the latest code on github?

Doorknob

4:12 AM

hey, Linux/Unix people, anyone know an alternative to anacron that lets me run things more frequently than daily?

Anonymous

@phase Yep

Anonymous

@Doorknob def run(x,s):while 1:__import__('os').system(x);__import__('time').sleep(s);

phase

@Mego For one thing, why on earth are you calling Python code from Python as a subprocess? You can literally just import it!

Anonymous

@phase Because I'm a moron

Anonymous

Duh

Doorknob

4:14 AM

@Mego lol, but a.) that doesn't work if I turn my computer off / suspend it, and b.) it would be pretty easy to write a script to do this but I'd rather not reinvent the wheel

Anonymous

@Doorknob Don't turn your computer off, easy peasy

phase

@Doorknob Lowly Windows XP scrub asking what an anacron is?

Doorknob

@Mego >.<

Anonymous

@phase task scheduler

phase

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

Doorknob

4:16 AM

@phase it's like cron but it doesn't require your computer to constantly be running

Geobits

If nobody ever reinvented wheels, bicycles would be very uncomfortable.

Anonymous

@Doorknob I mean, why would you turn off your computer? Aren't you always using it?

Anonymous

@Geobits 2insightful4me

phase

Why would you turn off your computer when there is codegolf?

Sp3000

Mego security advice #142: Scared of people stealing your passwords? Don't use one.

phase

4:17 AM

I'd star but I can't anymore ;-;

Geobits

@Mego Ok, continue with the don't-turn-it-off angle :)

Anonymous

@Sp3000 No that's dumb, you use a randomly-generated password for every login, and don't store it anywhere because that's a security risk. Every time you log in, reset your password.

phase

@Mego Cloning your code so I can fix all your issues

Anonymous

@phase Cool

Anonymous

Don't touch the interpreter or I'll hurt you

phase

4:19 AM

I was literally just about to do that

Anonymous

touch seriously.py

phase

why on earth is there a command for NNBB?!?!?!?

Anonymous

NNBB?

Anonymous

Oh Ninety Nine Bottles of Beer

Anonymous

Because I'm a cheeky bastard

Anonymous

4:20 AM

(I cannot tell you how long I have been waiting for this moment)

TanMath

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A: Write a Program that Writes a function BUT in a different language!

Python to C++, 49 bytes n=input();print "void sum(x){cout<<x+"+str(n)+"}"

How is my newest answer?

undergroundmonorail

you can remove the space and replace str(n)

with `n`

Sp3000

You can use %d instead of whatever monorail said

Anonymous

@TanMath Drop the space between print and "

New Main Posts

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Q: 90° Self-Rotating Program

Introduction Write a complete program that rotates a rectangular block of ASCII characters 90 degrees clockwise. When the program itself is rotated 90 degrees clockwise, it rotates a block of ASCII characters 90 counterclockwise. Rules You many not use built-ins that rotate or transpose matri...

undergroundmonorail

4:23 AM

actually, you can remove everything before print and use input() later instead of n

Anonymous

@undergroundmonorail Nope, for values longer than 2^32-1, it appends a L

undergroundmonorail

@Mego sh

Anonymous

Well, unless it's Python 3, in which case you don't need str or repr or backticks

Anonymous

Also lambda more

TanMath

@undergroundmonorail I tried but it didn't work!

undergroundmonorail

4:24 AM

weird

Anonymous

print"[](int x){return x+%d;}"%input()

Anonymous

Stupid static types

TanMath

@Mego what is []?

Anonymous

@TanMath Beginning of a lambda expression

phase

@Mego I've got no idea how to do dis code cause I don't code Python :P

Anonymous

4:27 AM

@phase I meant specifically the code for permalinks

Anonymous

Didn't you write that bit?

TanMath

@Mego I don't know Lambda in C++

phase

@Mego ohhhh yeah I fixed a couple issues with it on mine

TanMath

@Mego now I do!

Anonymous

@TanMath Lambda expressions are just like functions, except they use a different syntax and can be defined inside of other functions. The general form for a Python-style lambda is [&](arg1_type arg1,...){return something;}

Anonymous

4:29 AM

[&] specifies that you want to capture local variables by reference - you don't need this in your answer, so you can just do []

Anonymous

You only need one argument, int x

phase

@Mego Flask templates encode text inserted as HTML instead of URI, which the old one was decoding it as.

TanMath

@Mego I thought in python it is lambda x:

Anonymous

@TanMath Yes, this is the C++ syntax

TanMath

@Mego but you said python-style lambda...

Anonymous

4:30 AM

C++ lambdas also allow you to have multiple statements inside of the body, but that's not helpful

undergroundmonorail

@TanMath python-style in c++

Anonymous

@TanMath By Python-style I meant a lambda that takes a number of inputs and only contains a return statement

Anonymous

here is a good reference

phase

omg I love emails like

--[----->+<]>---.++++++++++++.+.+++++++++.+[-->+<]>+++.++[-->+++<]>.++++++++++++.+.+++++‌++++.-[-->+++++<]>++.[--->++<]>-.-----------.

Anonymous

@phase I just made the change in Seriously, hopefully it'll work

TanMath

4:33 AM

@Mego yeah,I just looked at that!

@Mego seriously does something with Flask?

phase

@Mego It's still not as completely fleshed out as my original Java IDE, so there will probably be some bugs for a while

@TanMath my web IDE

Anonymous

@TanMath @phase's web IDE that I shamelessly copied and modified for Seriously

phase

@Mego without even changing the theme ;-;

Anonymous

@phase Getting it working > changing the theme

phase

@Mego who cares if it works, as long as it looks good

Anonymous

4:35 AM

@phase found the Piet programmer

Anonymous

still no worky

phase

@Mego jQuery isn't being loaded because it's not over https

Anonymous

@phase I fixed that and then didn't notice it got unfixed with your commit :P

phase

@Mego I haven't tested it on https yet, only localhost

Anonymous

@phase Got it working with changing it to https, yay

Anonymous

4:40 AM

Now to fix explanations

phase

@Mego It only required adding 1 letter...

Dennis

Hooray for the metric system!

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A: Dimensional Analysis

CJam, 184 105 98 96 bytes 00000000: 22 73 20 6d 20 6b 67 41 20 4e 20 4a 20 57 20 48 "s m kgA N J W H 00000010: 7a 50 61 43 20 56 20 46 20 ce a9 53 20 57 62 54 zPaC V F ..S WbT 00000020: 20 48 22 32 2f 53 66 2d 22 d6 9c 64 c6 a1 24 a4 H"2/Sf-"..d..$. 00000030: 4b f9 1c 4a 57 f4...

Alex A.

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Oh, that's why

phase

You have fully used your vote allowance for today

Dennis

Before 5:00 UTC? o_O

Alex A.

4:44 AM

That's truly impressive

Anonymous

@phase That explains a lot of the starboard

phase

I'm going to be here for 3 more hours until I can vote again (if it resets at 12am)

Dennis

It resets at 0:00 UTC as far as I know.

So you'll have to wait 19 hours.

phase

I'll probably be here till then because Veteran's Day

Anyone know how to output the entire input in BF?

undergroundmonorail

,[.,]

phase

4:48 AM

I guess I could just google "Brainfuck cat"

@undergroundmonorail thank you very much good sir

undergroundmonorail

np

that assumes 0 for EOF but that's far and away the most common in my experience

TanMath

@phase linky?

phase

@TanMath I don't have the Python one I'm working on right now, but the UI is the same as the old one that is written in Java

Anonymous

@TanMath You can try mine

PhiNotPi

making some slow progress on my website: socnet-phinotpi.rhcloud.com/home.pl

phase

4:52 AM

@PhiNotPi in PERL!?!?

Alex A.

If my source tree looks like [top]->[src, test] and I put my makefile in the top level directory to build sources in src, where should the executable go? In src?

phase

I didn't even know people coded Perl for web dev anymore

Idk best practices

@phase yes

@PhiNotPi Thank you

4:53 AM

I think executables usually go in bin?

Alex A.

Oh

Bin

TanMath

@phase this is not in flask?

PhiNotPi

@phase Are you a Perl fan?

TanMath

@Mego where is the code for the IDE?

phase

@TanMath That one uses Spark, which is a Java HTTP library. The one I'm working on now (which @Mego stole) is using Flask.

@PhiNotPi Love it, never coded it

Anonymous

4:54 AM

@TanMath In the GitHub repo

TanMath

Nobody has a social network in Python? :(

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman So then I'd have [top]->[src, test, bin] and src would compile to an executable in bin? And bin would just be an empty folder under source control?

@phase Incorrect, Perl is bad.

Anonymous

@phase I didn't steal it! There was no restrictive license on it! :P

El'endia Starman

That sounds right. Disclamer: I don't know much about that.

Zach Gates

@TanMath yet

phase

4:55 AM

@Mego <6

El'endia Starman

But given the pattern I see in other programs...

Alex A.

Can I use relative paths in g++? Like g++ ./src/somefile.cpp -o ./bin/whatever?

phase

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A: Write a Program that Writes a function BUT in a different language!

Brainfuck to Java, 273 +[----->+++++.+++++.++++++.[---->++++.+[->++++.-[->+++-.-----[->+++.+++++.++++++.[---->++++.-[--->++-.[----->++-.[->+++.---------.-------------.[--->+---.+.---.----.-[->+++++-.-[--->++-.[----->+++.,[.,]+[--------->+++.-[--->+++. Outputs a method like int d(int i){return i...

Anonymous

@phase 5?

Anonymous

@AlexA. Yep

phase

4:58 AM

@Mego >3

Alex A.

<3

Anonymous

@phase 5.

Anonymous

@AlexA. 2.

phase

@AlexA. no that's weird

PhiNotPi

@phase You can register if you want. (disclaimer, although registering does create an account and allows you to sign in, you can't do anything special while signed in, yet.)

^fixed link

phase

4:59 AM

@PhiNotPi call it Perlisthebestprogramminglanguagever

Alex A.

But it isn't so don't

PhiNotPi

Javaistheworstprogramminglanguageever

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Anonymous

@phase Need more semicolons

Alex A.

Java > Perl

Just sayin'

phase

@PhiNotPi I code it like everyday, so I can agree

Anonymous

5:01 AM

@AlexA. error: no ordering defined for horrible languages

phase

@Mego what semicolons?

undergroundmonorail

i have two accounts now

Anonymous

@phase int d(int i){return i+42} is not valid Java

Anonymous

You need a semicolon after the 42

phase

@Mego It outputs correctly, I just put an incorrect example :P

Anonymous

5:02 AM

@phase I didn't actually bother checking the code

Anonymous

With BF code I just assume it doesn't work

Anonymous

I'm right a lot more than Alex with that strategy

phase

@Mego Does anyone actually check Brainfuck code? I think we're all just amazed anyone can use it.

undergroundmonorail

i check brainfuck code

copy@copy.sh

Alex A.

I Czech code

phase

5:03 AM

@undergroundmonorail applauds

undergroundmonorail

i'm going to see how many times i've answered in brainfuck on this site

Anonymous

@phase BF isn't actually that hard to learn and use, it just usually results in massive, unwieldy code

undergroundmonorail

^

Anonymous

I've answered exactly once, on the projamming challenge: ]

PhiNotPi

> Easy to learn, difficult to master.

Anonymous

5:04 AM

Or was it [?

Alex A.

> Difficult to learn, impossible to master

phase

The world will end when Brainfuck beats Pyth

undergroundmonorail

i like that it generates free rep for me because so many people are impressed that i can use it and no one knows it well enough to tell me where it's bad

PhiNotPi

> Impossible to learn, easy to master.

Alex A.

> Learn to impossible, master easy to.

undergroundmonorail

5:06 AM

sure thing yoda

Alex A.

Vulcans do not yolo. We #yoloswag.

PhiNotPi

> Impossible easy to learn master to, is.

Alex A.

> Master is learn to impossible easy

Anonymous

I'm happy enough with the current (half-broken) state of the online interpreter

undergroundmonorail

@AlexA. this one almost makes sense

Alex A.

5:09 AM

Damn

phase

> possibleim syea ot is erMast learn

Anonymous

> Master is easy, learn to impossible

PhiNotPi

> Єαƨʏ тσ ℓɛαяи, ∂ιғғιcʋℓт тσ мαƨтɛя.

Alex A.

> Damn son

Sp3000

@undergroundmonorail cough Mitch cough

PhiNotPi

5:10 AM

> #yoloswag

Anonymous

> ę̣̮̣̲͌̌̀a̸̰͔̫̲̯̝͌ͧ͢ͅs̏̊ͤͧ̽ͮ҉̢̗̣͖͔̙y̡̛̘͕̭͚ͧ̄̓̇ ̙͆͂͌ͩ̏͆̾̉ẗ̤̯̌̕ô̸̢̤̋͑ͣͭ̅̇̚ ̵̻͍̥̼̯̿ͅl̨͙̼͔̠ͪ̔͛͊͌ͩͫ̚e̢͕̟̬͂ͩͧ̆̈́̒̈́̇͝a̹̩̠̱̺̙͈͕͈ͩ̈ͭr̸̻̯̓͗ͧ̾̏͆̐́͝ṉ̴̢̠̱̭̠̜̠͆̌́,͐̈́̌ͨ‌̯̫̉̄͋̐ ̣̮̝̰̓͗̍̋ͫ̉͝i̎̃͗҉̩͉̬͘m̼̊ͧ̚͠p̢̳͛͋ͩͫ́̚ŏ̡̎͏̨̬͚͍̜͙s̷̵̛̹̳̈́͊̃͑s͉͉̘͕͚̭̅͑͗͌̃̌̀̚͝i͐̎̔ͩ̄ͨͦ‌̻̪̤̤̹͙̹̭̍b̞̪͍̫̳̘̖́̏̇̊͒l̡̲͖̜͎̭͙̺̅̈́e͚̟͉̘̒ͯ̈ͦ̄͗̊͗́ ̱͍̟ͬ̀͑̓͌ͪ͐̉t̨̮͈̳̦̗̥͇ͨ̽͘͟ô̯͉̝̙̖̏͂ͮ̾̋ͅ ̳͍̦̟̟͇̺̦͋̑̐̃͟͞m͇͖̘̱͙͖̩̮͌͋ͨ̀a̵̶̤͉̻̋͗́s͒ͩ͐҉̮͇̩̩̜t̳̜͍̯̱̟̠̜̍̿ͩ̋̿͐̑̚͞e̤̜̟̹ͭ̋̈́̍ͤ̚ŕͨ͢͝‌̡̻̻

undergroundmonorail

@Sp3000 what does this mean. what are these words you have said to me

PhiNotPi

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

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phase

-[------->+<]>+.--[--->++++<]>+.+[--->+<]>.[->+++<]>-.-[->+++<]>.-[--->++<]>-.++++++++++.+[----‌>+<]>+++.---[->++++<]>.------------.---.--[--->+<]>-.[->+++<]>++.+++.[--->+<]>----.+.[---->+<]>+++.[-->+++++‌++<]>.++.---.--------.+++++++++++.+++[->+++<]>++.++++++++++++..----.+++++.-------.-[--->+<]>--.++[--->++‌<]>.-----------.+++++++++++++.-------.--[--->+<]>--.[->+++<]>++.++++++.--.

undergroundmonorail

i disagree

phase

5:13 AM

-[------->+<]>.-[->++++<]>.---[->++++<]>.------------.+.+++++.---.-[++>---<]>+.--[->++++<]>+.----------.++++++.[‌--->+<]>.-[->+++<]>.-------------.--[--->+<]>-.-[--->++<]>.+++++++++++.--.+.[---->+<]>+++.-[--->++<]>.-----.----.‌+++++++++++.+++.++++++.--.

undergroundmonorail

of what?

PhiNotPi

> of our memes

phase

-[--->+<]>-.[---->+++++<]>-.---.--[--->+<]>-.+++++[->++<]>.--[--->++++<]>+.+[--->+<]>.[->+++<]‌>-.-[->+++<]>.[-->+++++++<]>.++.---.--------.+++++++++++.+++[->+++<]>++.++++++++++++.[->+++‌++<]>-.---[->++++<]>.------------.-------.--[--->+<]>-.[---->+<]>+++.++[->+++<]>+.--.+++++++++.---------.++++++++++‌+++.+++[->+++<]>++.--[--->+<]>-.+++[->+++<]>.[--->+<]>----.+[---->+<]>+++.---[->++++<]>.------------.+.++‌++++++++.

omg this is such spam

undergroundmonorail

[-]>[-]<
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>+++++[<-------->-]<-.
>++++++[<+++++++++++>-]<+.
--.
+++++++++++++.
>++++++[<------------->-]<.
>+++++++[<++++++++++>-]<+.
--.
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---------.
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-----------------.
>+++[<++++++>-]<+.
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oh jeez that has newlines in it

i've answered with bf programs 7 times on this site

phase

oo what is that written in?

Anonymous

5:17 AM

ideone.com/nR1u15

undergroundmonorail

it's built into my ide haha

i rarely use it because you can almost always write something shorter

phase

ooo what ide?

undergroundmonorail

bfdev

phase

I'm going to write one in D, cause I love D

I love D so much

PhiNotPi

++[------>+<]>..++[->++<]>+.-[-->+<]>......---[-->+++<]>-.+[--->++<]>+.+[----->+<]>.++[-->+++<]>.[--->++<]>.[->+++++++
++<]>.---..++[->++<]>+.-[-->+<]>.---[-->+++<]>-.+[--->++<]>+..+[----->+<]>.++[-->+++<]>.[--->++<]>.+[--->++<]>+.+++.-.[->++<]>+.-[-->+<]>..---[-->+++<]>-.+[--->++<]>+.+[----->+<]>.++[-->+++<]>.[--->++<]>.[->+++++++++<]>.........-...[->++<]>+.-[-->+<]>..---[-->+++<]>-.+[--->++<]>+...+[----->+<]>.++[-->+++<]>.[--->++<]>.--[---->+++<]>.+.---.++[->++<]>+.-[-->+<]>...---[-->+++<]>-.+[--->++<]>+..+[----->+<]>.++[-->+++<]>.[--->++<]>.+[--->++<]>+.+++.---.++[->++<]>+.-[-->+<]>.....…

undergroundmonorail

5:21 AM

:)

phase

@PhiNotPi I want to do that with my email, and just toss around a huge BF code

or maybe some other BF-type language that is longer

like Ook!

undergroundmonorail

has anyone made a trivial brainfuck substitution that uses []+-<>., but each instruction means something else

that would be confusing

phase

Transform []+-<>., to <+-.,<

El'endia Starman

Replace each instruction with its counterpart ([]+-<>., -> ][-+><,.) and call it FB.

undergroundmonorail

haha

Anonymous

5:24 AM

@PhiNotPi Why is this taking forever to execute?

phase

@Mego you did it wrong

@Mego it prints BF code, which prints BF code, which ..., which prints :)

PhiNotPi

I would do []+-<>., to ]+>.[,-<

Anonymous

I transpiled it into C, compiled that with -O3, and it's still not doing anything

PhiNotPi

I have no clue.

Sp3000

@phase

++++++++++[->+++>++++>++++++++++>+++++++++++>+++++++++++>++++++++++++<<<<<<]>>>‌+++++.>.>++++++.<<<<++.>>-----.<.>+++++.>.>.<<<<.>>.<+.>>>>+++.<--.<<----.>>++.+.---.<.<<<.‌>>++++.<++.<,[.,]>++++++++++++++++.>>>>++.

<-- uber naive first try says you can do better, and that's without changing any variable names

phase

5:28 AM

@Sp3000 I will try harder to please you senpai

Sp3000

:P what are you generating with, anyway?

phase

@Sp3000 This which uses a Java backend

Sp3000

I... see.

Calvin's Hobbies

source-layout taxonomist :D

Sp3000

Nice :)

undergroundmonorail

5:31 AM

marcog is a lucky dude

Anonymous

Finally got it working

Sp3000

But yeah @phase it's not like I have a thing against bad golfs or anything, but you could have at least made the variable name a instead of i or something else that gives shorter output from the generator :P

Anonymous

Turns out Phi's code expected a 30k tape

Anonymous

Doesn't work too well on a much larger tape

phase

@Sp3000 Oh man I didn't even think of that ;-;

undergroundmonorail

5:33 AM

if you still had i around from int it could be shorter to use it again

but then, why not t

depending on what side you're on, i gueess

Anonymous

We still need a proper BF golfing challenge

undergroundmonorail

i haven't inspected the code

Anonymous

Given an input string, output BF code that prints exactly that string, scored by length of BF code

Alex A.

What did I walk in on

Anonymous

@AlexA. whoah phase has an avatar?

Alex A.

5:34 AM

?

Yeah

Everyone does

Anonymous

phase

@Mego your thing done borked

undergroundmonorail

wat

PhiNotPi

sp00ky

Anonymous

undergroundmonorail

5:36 AM

well, i'm there, and that's all that matters

Anonymous

Looks like gravatars aren't wanting to load

PhiNotPi

yeah, everyone should show an avatar

Anonymous

Oh duh

Anonymous

Ghostery

Anonymous

MUCH better

PhiNotPi

5:37 AM

another mystery solved by the PPCG gang

Sp3000

@undergroundmonorail btw to answer your question, yes: link

Anonymous

I'm in a whole new world of avatars

undergroundmonorail

i know about that but i'd argue that it isn't a trivial bf substitution :P

Anonymous

It's amazing

Sp3000

In that case, ReverseFuck then

phase

5:38 AM

left to take garbage out

undergroundmonorail

neat, ty

El'endia Starman

@Mego ...but mine isn't a gravatar...I think? Maybe it is. Lemme check.

Oh, yep, it is.

Dennis

Good night!

undergroundmonorail

night

Anonymous

Bye Dennis

Sp3000

5:46 AM

@Dennis Did you mean z in your rotating explanation?

Instead of t

Calvin's Hobbies

I don't know perl, is this really pristine?

1

A: Programming a Pristine World

Perl, 25 bytes print "w"."o"."r"."l"."d" Removing any quote mark results in an illegal bareword. The only reason I think this may not count is because someone could delete one of the characters themselves, but I've seen that in ~ a dozen answers so far, so I don't know if that's one of the rul...

Anonymous

Looks like it to me

Sp3000

I think they misunderstood the rules

Thomas Kwa

@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ I noticed from your ESMin documentation that the character ⸨ is a replacement for ((, and that you use ⸨ often in answers. However, ⸨ is three bytes whereas (( is two. Are you optimizing for character count or byte count?

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