The Nineteenth Byte

Why is the restart button even an option if not for raiding?

Q: When something that was supposed to be fun became not fun

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StackEgg! What a great invention. Probably the best thing to hit Stack Exchange since the invention of unicoins! Very entertaining game, very fun to play. Many users have probably spent several hours playing this. And April Fool's day is not over yet. However, where there is great inventions t...

This game seemed perfectly designed for this tactic IMO.

Hah. We ignored the warning and nothing happened...

Chris Jester-Young

4:14 PM

@Rainbolt That is actually not by design.

Ok. So, we're in beta still, and yet we have the most organized community on the entire network?

@ChrisJester-Young Then what is the button for?

Wait, did you even mean to ping me? Your answer doesn't at all relate to my question...

randomra

@Rainbolt or people with the most free time :)

@Rainbolt Most organizing troll-brigade, maybe.

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Chris Jester-Young

@Rainbolt The "reset" button isn't for you to sabotage others' Sites.

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Either way, coming into PPCG chat and flagging messages as offensive is probably not the right solution. — Geobits 50 secs ago

That's what the offensive button is for, right?

4:15 PM

I asked what it was for. And you've missed answering that twice now. Why do I keep getting pinged?

otherwise it would not be there ;-)

You keep saying what it isn't for.

I want to know what it is for.

@rolfl If it didn't cause a chat ban I wouldn't care tbh.

@Rainbolt For when a site agree they are frustrated or otherwise stuck or not making progress and agree that they all want to restart.

@Geobits If it didn't cause a chat ban the button may as well not exist, eh?

@Geobits Similarly, if it didn't cause a stacegg reset, noone would care, right?

4:17 PM

^^^ agrees with John

user15026

@John Pretty much this.

I'm being linked to messages that are directed towards me lol

Yes yes, offensiveness causes chat bans. People are flagging it because others are "cheating", but that's not actually offensive. They're just looking for revenge, and banning someone for revenge is above and beyond messing with an april fool's joke IMO.

All I did what ask what the button was for and someone finally answered. I can stop being pinged now thanks.

Raiding could have been prevented with something like requiring a minimum account lifetime, no?

4:19 PM

@Hasturkun That was exactly my thought

Hosch250

@Hasturkun No, many of the raiders have been around for a long time.

If user just signed up, show ad. If user had account yesterday, show egg.

rcrmn

Or not having a Reset button

But I guess they probably didn't expect that

@rcrmn: Reset button makes sense for some deadlocks, hence the double confirmation

4:20 PM

@Hosch250 Long time depends on the site though, I doubt most of them would have been on anime & manga before today (although having said that, neither was I)

rcrmn

I don't see how, if you lose the game it will reset, won't it?

Maybe to reboot a partly abandoned game?

rcrmn

@Hasturkun Maybe, but I think they just used it for testing purposes mor probably, and then left it thinking it would not be a problem later.

@Hosch250 Minimum account rep on the site to vote on it, maybe

Hosch250

That could be a solution.

I need to do school, so I'm leaving.

4:22 PM

Andrew is suggesting I am flaming people. Am I flaming people?

@Rainbolt Maybe not flame, per se, but you're not exactly the nicest guy in the room right now.

Who am I antagonizing? I've literally spent the last three hours organizing people and analyzing this game.

I haven't been mean to a single person (today anyway). Accusing me of flaming or even being mean is just low.

Heck, I even suggested a way to stop the raids. That's awfully nice of me. But nobody likes it lol

6 downvotes because I had the logic backwards. So unforgiving

@Rainbolt That was chronologically after everything.

Mad Scientist

@Rainbolt six downvotes because your solution would not work. There are far too many users with accounts on a large number of sites

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I'm just trying to figure out who I was mean to.

Whether my solution works or not, it was in the spirit of helping.

4:28 PM

I'd probably set it up on rep, anyhow. Min 100?

As an experienced user, you know what voting on Meta means.

Probs more than 100, cos cross-site

@Hasturkun 100 is affiliation bonus...

Ok look I'm not worried about the votes on my proposal. It was a gesture anyway.

I'm worried that someone thinks I'm being mean

I'm not being mean to anyone. Ask anyone who has been in here all morning, 100% of my effort was towards winning this game.

Undo

next year we need a joke designed for sabotaging.

4:31 PM

@Undo Please no. Stack Exchange is a professional place.

In any case, I'm guessing talk about raids probably invites raids

I deleted my answer after getting to -8 finally.

Ok, I'm over the fact that John thinks I'm not nice. And Andrew retracted the flaming comment kind of. Back to voting.

Movies and TV just reset

Wow three lines of people in chat

I haven't seen three lines since KotH became popular

Dunno if I will get another chance , but three important things:

1. People are still confused between quality first vs top-bottom. I think we should go with Top-Bottom to avoid any confusion and vote-split.
2. Rainbolt has not been mean today. Neither was I, and I am really happy that even after most of us got chat banned- we still followed the strategy
3. Nothing is not a good option. It does not slow down decay

Oh it doesn't? Damn

no

4:41 PM

Would be nice if it did

its exactly same as ask

We got chat banned?

(or any other option)

I guess, me grc and some other

Chat banned?

can't chat for 30 minutes

4:42 PM

Meanwhile, I'm the one with the all caps message starred 9 times. No ban for me. How odd.

why are we answering

it was related to raids

we are getting raided by 3 users

Solution: ban users... from chat? Not from the game?

yeah :D

6 users raiding

That is a rather odd solution

4:43 PM

well this is awkward

two reds

I missed the warning

@Rainbolt A lot of flags were raised by people, and apparently some were validated

why r we closing ?

It was probably on the order of a dozen flags

welp back to square one

4:44 PM

:/

5 days wasted

we need more people to follow the mandated strat

it's getting messy

Hmmm. I suppose if people get chat banned, that makes us more susceptible to raids

So we should just focus on our own game and leave everyone else alone

Since we are already winning

Sklivvz

@Rainbolt duh, it's obviously there not to be pushed :-) to tempt your self control...

PhiNotPi

Who got chat banned?

seems like we've got 4+ raiders

4:46 PM

We do have more Internets than anyone else

Napoleon Wilson

@Rainbolt "Wow three lines of people in chat" - Hmm, maybe that was the intention all along? Whatever that means for the reputation of PPCG's users in the eyes of other sites' users on the long run, though.

And TV and Anime both reset within the last five minutes

This is fun

I think I am happy that we are at least united :)

I don't really get the point anyhow, raiding takes as much time as actually playing

I think we've bashed each other enough by now.

4:48 PM

You don't even get persistent internet points for it

We get the point, raiding is not cool.

there are around 10 mods on chat here

@NapoleonWilson I can assure you many people view them poorly now.

i have no idea why

They'll fix the game eventually. Until then, there's no point in discussing it.

Q: When something that was supposed to be fun became not fun

4:48 PM

@Optimizer I was here all along

But this

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StackEgg! What a great invention. Probably the best thing to hit Stack Exchange since the invention of unicoins! Very entertaining game, very fun to play. Many users have probably spent several hours playing this. And April Fool's day is not over yet. However, where there is great inventions t...

discussion fun april-fools stackegg

@MadaraUchiha you were just the first one here :)

@Rainbolt Within the day? Maybe, unlikely though.

Whats this Stack Egg thing

in The 2nd Monitor, 6 mins ago, by Unihedro

I never used to take games seriously until I saw Arqade.

@Rodolvertice April's Fools Joke for this year.

A: When something that was supposed to be fun became not fun

4:49 PM

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This won't be popular, so get your downvotes ready. But in response to the numerous "PPCG is evil" comments I've seen both here and in various chat rooms: This should surprise nobody PPCG is a tight knit community where we collaborate on ways to design an optimal strategy for competitive puzzle...

Oh whoops. Quality first?

Oh ok haha

Or users?

@Rainbolt that is the confusion

in The 2nd Monitor, 6 mins ago, by Unihedro

This day completely changes it in the other way.

4:49 PM

@Rodolvertice

we NEED to go top bottom only

bah. A highly effective time sink?

apparently not Optimizer

yeah

the mob has spoken

monorail

4:50 PM

I am okay with both , just that we need to unite!

Go with the one that is in all caps and starred 9 times

nevermind

:/

apparently sudden switch

we are getting trolled!

randomra

4:52 PM

@Geobits never seen a vote counter roll that quickly :) partially agree though

wow -10, that was fast

VisualMelon

quite

I expected no less, but I felt it had to be said. I can handle downvotes :D

@Geobits you missed the point of the game

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The point of the game isn't the win, it's to have fun.

so we are getting blamed for finding a loophole that no one is agreeing to close ?

4:54 PM

Having a bunch of foreigners destroy your progress in the name of victory isn't fun.

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I've seen some evil code on PPCG, still don't think that makes PPCG evil

I think PPCG is having a lot of fun . Nobody wants to see PPCG happy :(

Sklivvz

@Optimizer I assume you are getting blamed because you are knowingly spoiling other people's fun

Too bad I can't DV on meta. I don't think "Also, it was a community operation. This wasn't a couple rogues going off to ruin the game. We did it as a community, and were apparently successful enough for other to take notice." is going to make anyone like us any more.

@Optimizer People want PPCG to have fun by not ruining everything for everyone else.

@Sp3000 It hasn't.

4:55 PM

@Optimizer I can take pleasure in freezing the room until April Fools is over to stop you from coordinating

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My point

If you won without ruining others' game in fair play I would step in the 19th byte and congratulate you.

But that wouldn't be very fun for you

And an abuse (that I still technically can use) of my powers.

So mods are now misusing their powers and threatening others ?

very well

@Optimizer It's not a threat, and I won't do it

4:56 PM

No mod action has been taken

But that's how I read your answer

"I can abuse the system to win, so I will"

@Optimizer I fail to see any misuse yet.

@Sp3000 Do we need to be "liked"? If people seriously dislike PPCG for this, then that's their issue IMO.

@John threatening is also a misuse.

Fun fact: I committed to this site when it was an Area 51 proposal. It saddens me to see it at this point.

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4:57 PM

@Optimizer Why are you getting all defensive?

That's simply how I read your answer

Call it "ruining fun" if you want, but we haven't harmed anyone by this. Anyone who thinks otherwise is taking the game too seriously, the same thing they're accusing us of doing.

I was offensive too ?

Undo

Fake empty threats are not misuse.

@Geobits ... Really?

@Optimizer There was no threat. @MadaraUchiha was simply stating what was possible.

4:58 PM

@John why does it sadden you

Hang on

Let me understand what you just said

@Undo wow

You are claiming that others are taking this too seriously

Wat

@Geobits If a hacker completely wiped out all of your social networking accounts, that wouldn't "harm" you either.

@Rodolvertice Because the site I backed appears to have turning into a gang of trolls that value winning to an extreme

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4:59 PM

Yes. If others think this is going to just ruin their day, then they are taking this silly little game too seriously, independently of how seriously we're taking it.

If that is the attitude of mods here, then I am keeping quite here. No point arguing to a united power.

People are having fun, and you ruin it for your own. Sure, there's no real harm here

But the point still stands.

If you won without ruining others' game in fair play I would step in the 19th byte and congratulate you. Instead I come to see organized sabotage and no sign of apology or friendly competition whatsoever.

I will now simply play the game and have fun by myself and I think the strategy is pretty much out there