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3:01 PM
I don't think we'll be able to easily stop arqade. They've got 10+ voters most rounds.
 
What should we vote for?
Close or restart?
We need an organized raid
 
Close is easier to get, we'd need more for a restart.
 
Alright. Let's go for close
GOOOOOOOO! Close arqade!
 
I see SE's strat: Make people sign up for accounts so they can raid. Traffic on all sites. Profit.
 
Ok, the arqade raid is probably helping them more than hurting
With extra votes
I gave up
 
3:05 PM
Yea, I was thinking the same. They've noticed in chat, also ;)
 
Fail raid!
Retreeeeeat!
 
I wonder
is a good opening strat to spam close up to 4 quality
 
@Sp3000 Well played
 
then go for quality > questions > answers > users
 
@Runer112 That's an interesting idea
Would it be better than opening with a flag for four auto hearts?
 
3:06 PM
it says it should sharply increase quality
I don't know if that actually requires subtracting from questions to work
or if it's just free fast points if at 0 questions
 
It increases quality by 2
 
even if questions is 0?
 
Lowers questions by 1 (plus whatever decrease questions would have normally gotten)
No idea
Flag gives four though. Kinda hard to pass up
 
I'm still think flagging is best.
 
well, after 3 rounds, don't we basically lose the effects of the flag
 
3:08 PM
True.
 
as everything except what we're boosting up to 4 drops back down to 0?
 
I'm gonna vte for close
 
It's literally the optimal time to use a flag.
 
Twice on open
 
it's the optimal time, yes
 
3:08 PM
Because by the time we max questions, we'll lose all of the effects of the flag
 
but I think just going close close might be better
 
But we wouldn't lsoe a maxed quality
 
I am back. looks like we were not raided ?
 
close close should be 4 points in the first 2 days
flag ask ask ask should be 4+3-3=4 points in the first 3 days
 
@Optimizer Yet. Still beta though, so not much of a threat.
 
3:09 PM
So new strat for graduation is Close Twice > Max Questions > Answers > Quality > Users
 
we should have graduated in sub 100 days ..
 
Sub 100's hard, if not near impossible :/
 
I'm not sure
 
close twice means ?
 
if we go close twice, we might want to prioritize keeping quality maxed then
 
3:10 PM
Alright then. Close Twice > Quality > Questions > Answers > Users.
 
actually, if none of these stats really care about each other
 
how did movies made it to 2 wins ? :/
 
then theoretically the best strat would be quality > answers > users > questions
 
We missed it :(
 
because you can let quality drop to 2 and close
and gain 2 points in one day
for a large part of the growth
 
3:10 PM
Oh yea.
 
I'm not sure if having questions at 0 has a negative effect on other things
 
Close Twice > Answers > Users > Questions
 
ok, lets keep a watch on movies to see how early they graduate
 
Is Ask+Close better than Ask+Downvote, I wonder? It depends in what goes on inside.
 
We'll find out soon
 
3:11 PM
Hmmm 125 public beta seems to be average
 
If questions are at zero, then closing would be better than downvote I think
So we do questions last and benefit
 
yeah, which seems like it would make it best to keep questions at 0 for as long as possible
and only close if quality <=2
 
Plans! Woot!
 
but then we get a red alert on questions
 
But answers D:
 
3:12 PM
What is the advantage of restarting?
 
@Optimizer Every single round?
 
and read alert for 2 days means shut down and eventually a flag use
 
I'm assuming red alerts aren't any more common on one stat than another
but that may not be true
 
@Rainbolt no, when we have 0 questions and then you close
 
oh
 
3:12 PM
Oh, that's not good
Revert to original strat then?
 
does that force red alert?
 
@TheBestOne If you're way late on days and trying to keep your average win days down?
 
well I guess we're going close strat
 
gamedev are going sub 110 for graduation
dont restart them
 
Just for one round. Someone said closing causes alrt at 0 so now I don't want to close any more
 
3:14 PM
I think arqade is going <300 for the win.
 
so much for close meta I guess
 
restart arqade ?
 
They have a ton of voters. We need everyone to attempt.
 
How about Close + Downvote > Answers > Questions > Users
3
 
I'm following this ^
Downvoting with zero users seems legit
 
3:16 PM
>>>> Users, by the looks of it
 
Raiding on arqade is happening, join now.
 
join join
 
it's happening?
 
Yeah!!!!!!
 
Join!
 
3:17 PM
oh noes
 
Im there
 
join join
 
Noo!!
 
Need a couple more
 
encore
 
3:18 PM
maybe
rekt
 
Yeah!
 
:D
 
owned
 
Downvote when we can with zero users
 
What are we following again for our site?
 
3:19 PM
guys, close + downvotes first , then answers
 
in The Bridge, 13 secs ago, by Ashley Nunn
Okay, this is going to make me hate everything forever
 
Let the users heart stick around for a while. When it disappears, downvote the hell out of it
 
no-one is following the strat !
 
Because downvot with zero users is free
What is the strat?
 
okay what the hell is our strat
 
3:20 PM
the bridge is for ?
 
Arqade
 
Answers + Quality makes traffic
 
k k
 
Arqade's chat room.
 
Closing we figured out is pretty much always bad
 
3:21 PM
who's aiming for the flag ?
 
Too expensive
 
I do believe they're about to start raiding.
 
Ok. Then we stick to the top to bottom strat. It's solid
 
we should be downvoting, no ?
 
Max the top to bottom, and heed warnings
It's just an easy strat to follow to keep people organized
3
 
3:22 PM
I thought we wanted to invert users and quality
because apparently quality affects traffic, but users doesn't? lol
 
upvoting seemed too harmful from me
 
@Sp3000 you let anime have a second win ? :(
 
Ok. I think we should invert too
 
we're getting close raided
 
But not with close votes
Pretty much never close vote
 
3:23 PM
that's someone internal only
 
Anime's not going to be able to get many wins, there's only 3 people
Unihedro was experimenting with voting nothing though
 
Who do we raid next?
 
When capped
 
I think closing is efficient: down-voting causes questions to decrease anyways (as time-decay).
 
We tried close voting for a few rounds and the total number of stars actually decreased from 8 to 3
 
3:24 PM
@TheBestOne look out fo racademia
 
Okay.
 
This was back when we were spreading evenly
 
well you definitely don't close if questions is nonzero
 
I misclicked because I missed the warning
 
@Optimizer I wouldn't worry about academia for a while :P
 
3:26 PM
I wonder why no traffic is around :(
 
I think the traffix = answers + quality theory may not be correct
oh
then again, it just went up
 
Ah, they have to both be high for traffic to generate
 
do we have a site that we can use for strat testing?
 
anime for strat testing
 
I want to see what happens if you go hard on close
 
3:29 PM
raid ^
 
Prioritize answers and quality now?
Then questions and users?
That way traffic can gain faster
 
Anime's being very sparing with upvotes atm, keeping questions high
I can't say this is very fast, but it seems to be steady
 
Wow no decay for two whole rounds
That's nice
 
Acedamia's busted. Who's next
 
oh
it seems like traffic is most closely tied to the min of all the other stats
 
3:31 PM
Traffic increases by 1 the moment both quality and answers are maxed for a whole round
 
@Optimizer done ;)
 
I can't say I've seen that
I mean look at that
 
Oh, nevermind. It just went up on it's own
 
traffic just went up to 4
 
Maybe 3 counts as high quality
 
3:32 PM
it should've gone up a lot faster, then
 
It could be "if total hearts (non-traffic) > x, raise traffic". The tooltip is a lie :P
 
"In order for your Site's traffic to grow (and not shrink again!), it must consistently offer lots of good help to the world – and that means continuously keeping both its answers and its quality high."
 
what tooltip is this
 
The question mark
 
tooltip/text, whatever. The part that explains it.
 
3:34 PM
what the hell happened to quality lol
 
I would not put it past them to offer deceiving information on April Fool's.
 
High traffic lowers quality faster
Err... causes it to degrade faster
But I'm sure it causes us to win faster as well
 
Listening in on The Bridge. We're not the only ones that think lifehacks.se is "odd".
 
Here's my theory, backed up by data from the previous round.
If the number of hearts is above a certain level (I think 12) then traffic increases by 1/3.
 
did we decide that quality is more important than answes
we just overwhelmingly voted quality over answers
then randomly switched back
 
3:39 PM
Organization is overrated
 
Optimization is overrated
 
Yeah, you may as well as retire. :p
 
Watermelons are overrated
 
Think we can get sub-300?
 
I think everyone is going for the lowest category now. So if quality is at 2 stars, everyone jumps on it
 
3:40 PM
Big toes are overrated.
 
@Sp3000 no
 
I think we're moving at 6pxl right now.
 
Quality seems the most angsty, we should go for that when everything is 4/4
 
How much do you think decay would decrease if we did nothing?
(if any)
 
@PhiNotPi yes
 
3:42 PM
We could restart arqade again just to salt the wound if you're bored. They only have 2-3 voters now.
 
sure
 
sub-300 should be possible, no? we were over 100 when we graduated
 
we need like 1 or 2 more in arqade
 
Who's on anime? They seem well organized, if not numerous.
 
at current speed, we can actually win at 265
@Geobits @Sp3000
 
3:45 PM
sweet
too bad we ruined our average forever with the first two rounds
 
What happened first two rounds
 
but we are the raiders!
@Rainbolt we were analyzing to get a start
 
Oh, you mean the first two wins
 
I dunno, I only came in around round 3
 
There's only a few of us in anime and we're basically following the same rough strat
 
3:46 PM
@Sp3000 don't get too attached to anime, we will have to start raiding it too soon ;)
 
@Sp3000 You realize we can't let you beat PPCG, right? :P
 
Hmmm. I think we should just go ahead ad knock some sense into them
 
You do realise anime can't beat PPCG anyway, right? :P In the long run
 
we dont even know there is a long run
 
Here's the link for lazy raiders anime.stackexchange.com
 
3:47 PM
While winning is fun, winning by a lot is more fun.
 
you guys are horrible!
 
We got close on the restart
40 to 60
 
lol nothing is winning
 
I suppose it does mean that the whole thing is just a measure of solidarity of SE communities
 
Ah. I think we got it now
 
3:48 PM
but when if SO comes after us? they must have lots of people
 
more like a measure of animosity
 
@VisualMelon It's disabled on SO.
 
46 to 54
 
ah, thanks ProgramFOX
 
@VisualMelon SO isn't very organized (yet) from what I saw. Too big.
 
3:48 PM
Two more restart votes on anime
So close
 
I WILL START BANNING PEOPLE!
:P
 
@Rainbolt >:(
That's foul play!
 
WIN!
 
Boom goes the dynamite
 
They are retaliating
 
3:49 PM
@MadaraUchiha well, we are not breaking any rules !
 
Hold the ranks!
 
we are getting raided guys!
 
By.... one guy.
 
3
4
5
 
we should all be unanimous !
 
3:50 PM
Top to bottom voting now. Vote the for the top one that isn't maxed
Always top to bottom
 
NO CLOSE
 
(and never close)
 
Watch out. Blue-name up there probably has connections :P
 
Our chat is being raided now
2
They wants to know our secrets
 
uchiha's are attacking !
 
3:51 PM
Should we agree on which to prefer when answer=quality now?
 
top down
without closing
 
@Optimizer Are you talking back to me? ARE YOU?
2
 
where's naruto when we need him
 
Protip: If anybody's aiming for Tumbleweed, today's a good day to post
6
 
TOP DOWN WITHOUT CLOSING. PREFERENCE TO TOP DOWN ONLY
 
3:53 PM
If we aren't careful, Light from Death Note is gonna write all of our names in his book and we'll all die.
 
We've got 6 restarters now
 
do we? only 1 this round
 
And then Sasuke will use his Manyo-yo Sharingan on us.
Then Broly will beat us up
 
@Rainbolt Mange-kyo
 
Yes I know. Jokes
 
3:53 PM
We need Lufy
 
Well they had 30% of 20 one round at least.
 
I am a narutard and I make fun of myself
 
oops
 
Something doesn't feel right. Like they are plotting
 
Almost too quiet...
 
3:55 PM
All 2 of them?
 
new user ^
yay ! :)
guys, buckle up. its now or never
 
I came over after seeing this on SO, was too chaotic there
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 21 secs ago, by Unihedro
PPCG just raided us :( I'm out
 
is someone keeping an eye on movies & tv
 
So, top down, no exception
 
3:56 PM
So much for sub 300 being hard
 
Well we've got a good strat now. A few more wins like this will drag the average down nicely lol.
 
@ProgramFOX Like I'm not here.
 
@Runer112 Yea, they're shut down for no activity :)
 
We're gonna be the first to 3!
And then we'll be raided more
 
@Unihedro better chose sides :)
 
3:57 PM
Woot
 
@Optimizer CR > PPCG :P
 
I want to see how things go when we are being constantly raided by everyone
 
@Unihedro haha
@Rainbolt naruto vs the world ?
 
Errr... no that's another site
Naruto raids us
They form the unified whatchamacalit and fight the war
 
we are on to around 280 to win
 
3:59 PM
so when we restart, what's the official strat
 
Top to bottom? Seems to work fine
 
top-down or top-down with users and quality inverted
 
top to bottom without closing without any other preference ?
 
I like top to bottom with users and quality inverted as well
 
indeed
 
3:59 PM
we need to settle on one
 

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