Brute force it? :3

so, the sequence so far is 1,2,8

97 more to go...

@NathanMerrill I'm fairly sure this has been covered before. Not sure what it'd be called though.

well, I'm going to find the next term in the sequence

hi @flawr

and then oeis it

^S:c<
"7Vlp
7>2bs
7Z!c
77H33
6/2bK
[7Ee0
%,5&]
:O}!V
Zk)3
Jzn+5
rc,:
8kmA?
}Z4U$
^&,-?
]T6F
*DY$T
kMW6
,|*pn
v@p.(

Find a word in that ^ (rorschach-esque test)

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ be

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ acma

I guess it's like acme?

@AlexA.

mA

milliamps

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ WELCOME BACK :D

@CoolestVeto <3 HIIIIIIIII

@Lembik Heya=)

@CoolestVeto d'awhhhwahahwahaw

@QPaysTaxes @quartata @Zgarb Thanks, I was looking for a new language name.

.-. Flasp production had to stop for something else.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ hahaha

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Maybe you should've generated letters only.

@QPaysTaxes Maybe. I'm writing an infix language.

Although :O is a good name.

@flawr in case you hadn't noticed, there is a new nice answer to my challenge

@flawr this suggests to me that there are non-naive ways to attack it

@Zgarb Probably :P I didn't have that option. I used this to generate it with the function A*B*C.

which is great

@Lembik Nope I havent, but today I havent much time=)

Got to go.

BAI

@flawr bye

@NathanMerrill I looked this up for general Hamiltonian paths on grids a few weeks ago, let me try to find it...

.-. Dogs ah

My gf keeps sending them to me.

halp

you have a gf?

that's new ._.

@QPaysTaxes yeah XD

@QPaysTaxes ಠ_ಠ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 6 months now. >.> Before I joined PPCG.

@CoolestVeto 'gratz! Just don't start graphing >_>

@QPaysTaxes Totally :P I know where you live and stuff

wat

Is Ton Hospel famous somehow? See comments at codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/74062/9206

@NathanMerrill I'm doing some curve fitting.

@Lembik He's a famous perl golfer/hacker

Is that actually him, though?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ aha! Google just got me there

I thought it was just a "tribute" name.

his answer to my challenge is certainly very impressive

@PhiNotPi As far as we're aware it is him

although there are 7 days of bounty left of course

@PhiNotPi No one can golf perl that well.

His prowess certainly matches the name

^

@TonHospel You are the real Ton Hospel, right?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ and I thought you were the stalker :P

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ: Yes, not just taking over the name.

any guesses for the number of hamiltonian paths through a 4x4 square?

@TonHospel Cool, thanks!

starting at the top and ending at the bottom?

@NathanMerrill yes! give me a seecond

@NathanMerrill any square at top and bottom?

yes

@NathanMerrill: Maybe this: sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0012365X9500330Y

ooh, nice paper

fangirls silently

@NathanMerrill my guess: 14

@CoolestVeto for what?

too low

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@CoolestVeto ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@QPaysTaxes XD nope

@TonHospel unforunately, that paper assumes starting point in top right corner and finish in bottom left

@NathanMerrill Wait is it bounded by n^2?

I have no idea

but probably

I've been assuming that

for 4 the max would then be 16 paths

oh, that n

no

I though N was the number of squares

oh

its smaller than 16^2, but greater than 4^2

My new guess is 48

its 34

o

oeis.org/…

@QPaysTaxes Maybe...!

There's a 3-command BF variant, and I have one with 2 commands

yeti?

ಠ_ಠ

Chewbacca?

It is a dog. :D

I'm pretty sure it's chewbacca.

It is both

Chewbaccadog

@QPaysTaxes *3 commands

*5 commands

But can be 3

@Downgoat How do I gets the up/downgoats?

@QPaysTaxes So... why you visiting Code Golf? I thought we were your mortal enemy.

o-o

You will be a worthy opponent, surely.

@QPaysTaxes Bai!

bai

@PhiNotPi did you get the program to work?

Everyone, give me an ASCII letter.

V

[unprintable]

letter

^

Is that what \a is?

Fantasy sports are now illegal in Tennessee ಠ_ಠ

Screw this

@ZachGates is gambling illegal?

Yes

@ZachGates then it makes sense.

Anything you see in there ? ^^

How so

^ It's time for Deckbuilding 101 :D

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!

there's quite a bit of gambling involved with fantasy sports

@Zgarb True XD

you can pay money to enter your fantasy team

and get money if they win

It takes a great deal of skill to win

@ZachGates the outcomes of games is considered "random"

similar to horse betting

My new language is now called "Dyai". Any opposed?

The problem with fantasy sports (of the fanduel, etc type) is this: They try to market it as random, because if they said it was actually a game of skill (and actually more like stock markets), there would be a whole different set of regulations to follow that they don't want. So they call it simple gambling, and then get upset when it is outlawed in places where gambling is illegal.

@QPaysTaxes Okay.

Any suggestions? :P

@Geobits I don't think that's true. For example, many games in a casino take skill

poker

@QPaysTaxes A lot of my esolangs are simple, one-shot things.

Simplex, Jolf, and Reng are the only ones that are "involved"

-.-

regardless, the existence of skill in games doesn't make it gambling

@QPaysTaxes uh no. why would it?

@NathanMerrill True, but those have been ruled by courts to be "mostly random, plus some skill". The fantasy sites have tried everything they can to avoid going to court because they don't want to have their workings exposed.

^^^

its the existence of randomness that makes it gambling

@Geobits what do they have to hide (as far as workings)?

@QPaysTaxes eyes glaze over

@QPaysTaxes I know it's a type of noise now, but I don't know what it does

@NathanMerrill That >90% of the profits go to a very small number of people that use algorithms instead of the "skill" they want you to think it takes.

For one.

Okay I'm stopping now xD

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That's all you need for the joke... :P

@trichoplax okai. :3

@QPaysTaxes Oh! Cool

@Geobits so, they don't want to reveal the winning algorithms to the public, in essense

because proving that it takes skill entails revealing winning strategies

I'm not sure they'd have to reveal the algorithms per say. They don't want their fan base to know there is one/some.

@QPaysTaxes Oh, I see. Which game?

regardless, I still think I'd rule it gambling

Basically, proving it takes skill more than random would burden them with additional, non-gambling regulations.

@QPaysTaxes Thanks!

@Geobits there are regulations for games of skill?

Let me see if I can find a good link. There have been a few articles written about the court stuff they're going through...

Also, don't get me wrong. I have no issues with small family/office type fantasy stuff. It's the large, organized, scammy ones that are problematic.

True ^

@NathanMerrill breakthrough using curve-fitting:

oooh!

@Geobits dfa.arkansas.gov/offices/fieldAudit/EGS/Pages/default.aspx

there's a whole section on it

I tried reading it though...

@CoolestVeto go to the settings and check the option

p(A && B) ~= p(A) * p(B) * 0.6553422866 * 1.516517793 ^ (1 - (1-p(A))*(1-p(B)))

r^2 = 0.9989

try that out

let me know if it's accurate at all

is p(A) the total number of votes?

p(A) is # votes for A / total votes

@Downgoat \o/

so, A and B are the two candidates

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ why does non-ascii make it hard for non-esolangs to compete?