The Nineteenth Byte

LegionMammal978

11:00 AM

It's GET / HTTP/1.1<CRLF><CRLF>

wizzwizz4

Golfed: GET/HTTP/1<LF><LF>

zyabin101

@wizzwizz4 O_O

wizzwizz4

I have a dilemma.

LegionMammal978

See above, servers SHOULD NOT accept that

wizzwizz4

I have written a piece of code for a challenge, and it seems that nobody else will.

However, my code doesn't work properly and I can't fix it.

The only other answer has been written by the question asker.

Jester Tran

11:02 AM

How many groups are there of order 2?

wizzwizz4

And they have put a bounty on the question.

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Q: N-queen-and-equine quine

There is a variant of the well-known N-queens problem which involves queens and knights and is said to be "considerably more difficult" 1. The problem statement is as follows: You must place an equal number of knights ♞ and queens ♛ on a chessboard such that no piece attacks any other piece...

@QPaysTaxes I haven't posted my answer.

LegionMammal978

@JesterTran groupprops.subwiki.org/wiki/Groups_of_order_2

wizzwizz4

I think I should post it as CW; if it's simple to fix, I'll get the bounty.

If it's not, the person who fixes it will.

I can't fix it! That's the problem.

Jester Tran

@LegionMammal978 Thanks, so the answer is 1 as I thought

wizzwizz4

There is a third option:

@QPaysTaxes There's an algorithmic error that's tiny, but important, and I can't quite fix it.

Jsfiddle collab link: jsfiddle.net/wizzwizz4/0z0s6yf0/4/#&togetherjs=pB4TNlat9H

LegionMammal978

11:05 AM

Did you try unplugging it then plugging it back in again?

wizzwizz4

@LegionMammal978 Yes. It doesn't work when the mini-function is unplugged from the wrapper either.

Erm... I might have just fixed it! YAY!!!

zyabin101

@wizzwizz4 For records, I'm Brilliant Beaver here.

trichoplax

@wizzwizz4 I hope you can fix it, but if not, this is not what Community Wiki is for:

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A: Definitive policy about answers not meeting the challenge specification

Marking an answer Community Wiki does not excuse it from this policy Introducing an answer with "I know this doesn't follow the rules but I worked hard on it so I want to post it here" is not an acceptable excuse. Saying "I've marked it Community Wiki so I won't get any rep from it" does not ch...

@QPaysTaxes Not everyone shares this policy - lots of us are happy to be pinged by anyone. I'd recommend turning off the volume for sleeping if you don't want to be disturbed by pings. If you need to be alertable for other things you can leave the volume on and just turn off pings (top right of chat has a speaker icon).

wizzwizz4

@QPaysTaxes Actually, I saw you came on chat, so I pinged you.

Katenkyo

@QPaysTaxes But that is your special case, and people in this community are generally willing to help fellow codegolfers ^^. Don't take it for you personnaly, and just don't go on a long phrasing, just say that you prefer to be left alone in these cases because you don't feel like helping^^.

trichoplax

11:19 AM

@QPaysTaxes Even if you write in your profile "Please don't ping unless you know me", not everyone will see it and you will still risk being woken from sleep. Because lots of people welcome pings the only way to defend against this is to mute either pings or your phone/computer while sleeping. This isn't meant to be telling you what to do, just hopefully giving you a way to get undisturbed sleep... :)

Katenkyo

@QPaysTaxes (I think it qualifies very well, but didn't remember the word ^^')

trichoplax

@QPaysTaxes Rants are always better received when self described as such :)

@QPaysTaxes I can relate to that. Similar to getting a letter/email and then finding it's only spam/bills

Katenkyo

@trichoplax Or being called to fix a computer... just because it is un-plugged :D

trichoplax

Actually in this case bills, since it was a request for work from you...

@Katenkyo I've had that...

Katenkyo

@trichoplax I know... at least, it's funny afterwards

wizzwizz4

11:24 AM

Sorry for pinging you. :-(

trichoplax

I don't know what etiquette is for pinging. I get pinged because a turtle appeared in a randomly generated xkcd garden. I guess the reason it doesn't annoy me is because I never expect a chat ping to be important news, so it feels inclusive rather than disruptive.

Katenkyo

@trichoplax I think there's no etiquette

the community pings when they don't want to discuss something in comments, when they need advice from a person, when there's something that might be interesting

trichoplax

I wonder if we should make one. Chat doesn't have a meta but I guess it could be on topic on our meta if the etiquette is PPCG specific, or on mother meta if it's general

Katenkyo

but no clear "social rule" about that, or at least, I didn't feel them

wizzwizz4

It was serious discussion!

Katenkyo

11:29 AM

@QPaysTaxes this chat is "childish" compared to others on SE if I can allow myself to say so

wizzwizz4

About a seriously fun code-golf challenge!

Katenkyo

We're a pretty active chat, and often speaks about everything

trichoplax

@QPaysTaxes This room definitely has less chance of serious discussion (not suggesting yours wasn't @wizzwizz4...)

Katenkyo

@trichoplax I think it would be sad to make one, because people would want to watch closely how they ping from that point

trichoplax

In some rooms a ping seems like a summoning but hear it is often just a mention "for your information" style

Katenkyo

11:31 AM

it would result in questions like "should I ping @x for y subject"

trichoplax

I would hope that the community would reach consensus on a pretty permissive etiquette, but yes it would be awful if it became a set of strict rules

Katenkyo

community like objective things, a permissive ain't as we can't define which level of permissivity to apply

@QPaysTaxes are the hours in GMT+0?:)

@QPaysTaxes it would mean pinging while I sleep, easy :D

but yeah, as I stated, I don't think it would work

wizzwizz4

@zyabin101 jsfiddle collaborate has crashed :-(

Here's the link again: jsfiddle.net/wizzwizz4/0z0s6yf0/#&togetherjs=pB4TNlat9H

Katenkyo

@QPaysTaxes Have a nice day pal!

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