The Nineteenth Byte - 2016-04-07 (page 1 of 11)

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12:00 AM

So my server went down a couple days ago (I don't know why) and I finally got it back up... now I see a folder named "NetBoot", that I didn't put there, is that bad?

@QPaysTaxes I did not claim that. And again: Whatever floats your goat. There can never, ever be a general rule. And you shouldn't rely on one mans opinion. No matter who that man is.

@QPaysTaxes I am an upside down goat, yes

@Cyoce doesn't it make us all ;_;

^

@Cyoce TeaScript is two bytes though

@Cyoce pro tip: put the jelly in your mouth, not your eyes

12:02 AM

@Doorknob i tri but it always end up in my Iz. how eat jelly??

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

TIL rime is a formation of ice crystals forming on the windward side of an object

@LuisMendo Thanks! :)

@QPaysTaxes Well, regarding the general point he makes (which is a mistake on his part: generalizing) is that it's the single worst thing a company can do. I experienced the exact opposite three times in the last year or so (i.e. where a rewrite not only produced a much cleaner system from the let go, but lead to increased turnover in the following months).

@Downgoat teascript uses a builtin. jelly uses black magic.

when does it not

12:04 AM

@quartata oh, I'm glad you find it useful! :D It was kind of thrown together over a weekend, so feedback is welcome

@QPaysTaxes Turnover as in more profit. Of course, one doesn't have to 86 everything all at once. Rewrite the parts that need it.

Chris Jester-Young

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (re the discussion between @mınxomaτ and @QPaysTaxes about the Joel article).

Well, I'm .... glad we amused you?

Chris Jester-Young

@QPaysTaxes I've put an explanation in the other chat. :-P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/77257/31957

ROFL

12:10 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ for what language is this?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce My new one!

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ which is...? What's its purpose?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce It's like J/APL/Jelly. And I'm calling it "Dyia" until I find a better name.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ is it designed for golfing?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes Yah

@Cyoce Sort kinda. In the sense that J is a "golfing language".

12:13 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ call it K

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat That's already a thing

L?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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@Downgoat J is already hard enough to google

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ +1 for freehand circles.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes Freehand™ Red™ Circles™

12:15 AM

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A: The Many Memes of Meta

Meme: Freehand Circles Originator: TheTXI Cultural Height: TBD See Also: Here, and Here as answer to this post

@QPaysTaxes if there were no freehand circles I would -1 no freehand circles

@MartinBüttner do you know of a mathematica function that takes a graph with weighted edges and plots the graph such that the edges with higher weight are closer together?

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I know of lots of mathematics

™ is broken. help

@Cyoce -1 no red freehand circles. How am I supposed to know what to look at now?!??!?!

this is overwhelming

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:19 AM

CANNOT COMPUTE

_UNK

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

_UNK!

_UNK?

@Downgoat He only wants Martin. Sheesh, don't intrude -.-

._.

12:21 AM

Hi guys

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ALLO SER

-_-

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

AND HI @QUART

I'm tired

Remember how apgsearch version 2 refused to compile for me?

Now the new version 3 isn't working either.

@SuperJedi224 hello

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I prefer EIGHTHS over QUARTS

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:24 AM

@Downgoat Me too.

Eigthata

Pintata

halfata

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

fullata

:.[01]+; ‹— fibonacci program in newest language (unimplemented)

I swear, the worst part of language design is documentation

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:25 AM

ELO, Dont Bring Me Down

@GamrCorps That is true.

What's wrong with ←?

@GamrCorps very true

@GamrCorps that and watching your language that you spent weeks on get instantly demolished by Jelly.

Someone please write Cheddar docs for me

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ larry?

I will pay you

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:26 AM

@HelkaHomba left arr

@Cyoce Me and Jolf

@Downgoat How much?

@Cyoce Me and TeaScript

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 3 stacks of hay, and some cookies. (negotiable)

@Doorknob Yeah, it's super nice. You should add to the readme that you should do --config first though

@Cyoce me and PlatyPar

Hi @Gallontata

I'd say "me and Cinnamon Gum" except Cinnamon Gum tied with Jelly on a challenge so

Then again, Jelly wasn't made for strings

12:28 AM

@quartata O_o

Edit: :.r01+; is golfier

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat Tempting...

I think this is how Cheddar's Fibonacci would look:

f=>n n<3?1:f(n-1)+f(n-2)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

a<3???

that's way too long.

12:32 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ golfed version of a <= 2

@Cyoce it's not a golfing language

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat oh right

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@AlexA.

@Downgoat then it looks too normal. -1 for not being hard to understand

@Cyoce it's a normal language

github.com/vihanb/Cheddar

@Downgoat we already have too many of those. weird languages are more fun.

we already have to many of those. normal languages are more fun

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:34 AM

we have too many of both. meta languages are more fun

If I ever finish Cheddar, I wonder if anyone would actually use it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I would.

:D

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

And +1 for using real italics _italics_

._. who thought Mersenne primes would be a good idea?? That seems like the most inefficient way to generate primes...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:38 AM

? primes of the form 2^n - 1?

yeah

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

That's not a prime generation method...

well I know that

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o-o

o--o

why are we posting tires ._.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:42 AM

o---o

idk

wouldn't repeated multiplication of the next prime +1 be efficient?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

?

2+1 = 3 2*3+1 = 7, 2*3*5+1 = 31 2*3*5*7=211

can someone tell me what this is:

/¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯\
|OOOOOOOOO|
o---------o

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Van?

12:44 AM

but where are the doors

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

back and front

|...|

@NathanMerrill those aren't guaranteed to be prime

are they?

@Doorknob but isn't that the proof that there's always a greater prime?

@NathanMerrill Wikipedia splits it into two cases

edit: golfier :,R1+;

12:45 AM

a.) it's a prime, b.) it's not a prime

:,R1+ (didn't need the semicolon)

> It is a common mistake to think that this proof says the product p1p2...pr+1 is prime. The proof actually only uses the fact that there is a prime dividing this product (see primorial primes).

source

@ChrisJester-Young ?

Oh

@Doorknob yeah, they are called the euclid numbers and E6 is not prime :(

@Downgoat Fun puzzle: find all positive integers a,b such that a^b-1 is prime

12:52 AM

@Sp3000 brb, posting challenge

@Sp3000 There are quite probably infinitely many solutions

Should probably say a,b > 1 else b = 1 is pretty trivial

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

3:true
7:true
31:true
211:true
2311:true
30031:false
510511:false
9699691:false
223092871:false
6469693231:false

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I am so boared :/

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ do you mean bored?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat kinda

12:59 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ if you are bored you could always help me implement shunting-yard for Cheddar :3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat I am good at that! I've done it twice

About to do it a third time with Dyia

Link?

ide.c9.io/vihanb/cheddar

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, right duh

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what language is that? is that the new one?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce That's Jolf.

1:02 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I should have known from its unique nonsensical syntax.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce o_o

What is that supposed to mean?

Its syntax is no different from Pyth...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Which is pretty readable if you know what you are doing imo

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yea

1:06 AM

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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

kthx

np

@Downgoat cheddar c9 link?

I can't find it... :(

@EasterlyIrk ide.c9.io/vihanb/cheddar

Goodbye for now

1:18 AM

bai

@QPaysTaxes can i be a collab on the desert survival project?

:D

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@SuperJedi224 bai

wtf @QPaysTaxes iz borked

yeah

See the new issue.....

The thing turns blue. Night maybe?

Needs work, i can't read it....

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:31 AM

G'night

night

NinjaBearMonkey

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My garden is overrun with massive octopi

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@NinjaBearMonkey reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/4don0t/…

(KeyboardFire is me ;) )

@EasterlyIrk I'd show you a screenshot of it on my terminal but I'm having issues with gnome-take-screenshot

@quartata use scrot :)

1:41 AM

@Doorknob 6/10 I prefer Keyboard Ice

@quartata Can you see it?

@EasterlyIrk Yes it looks beautiful

@Downgoat hydroelectric child, you just rekt him bad

NinjaBearMonkey

@Doorknob Why does your post's score show as a dot on the subreddit homepage?

My garden looks the same as it did 2 days ago ;_;

1:43 AM

@NinjaBearMonkey I dunno, Reddit is weird

s/weird/garbage/

but but /r/nethack and /r/lojban :D

@Doorknob are you trying to prove Alex's point? :P

Oooooooooh shit, son!

oh hydroelectric!

1:45 AM

I haven't browsed Reddit in a long time

NinjaBearMonkey

@QPaysTaxes Makes sense. And now you're addicted to PPCG!

Can someone explain to me what part of the Shuting-Yard algorithm means?:

If the token is a left parenthesis (i.e. "("), then push it onto the stack.
If the token is a right parenthesis (i.e. ")"):
Until the token at the top of the stack is a left parenthesis, pop operators off the stack onto the output queue.
Pop the left parenthesis from the stack, but not onto the output queue.
If the token at the top of the stack is a function token, pop it onto the output queue.
If the stack runs out without finding a left parenthesis, then there are mismatched parentheses.

@QPaysTaxes ...why?

^

@Downgoat What part is confusing?

1:49 AM

TIL garlic can turn blue

all of it

When they say "pop onto the output queue" they mean "move it to the output queue"

"Pop but not onto the output queue" is just remove it

I know that much

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3

All of the garlic can turn blue

but when does the stuff in the brackets come into the stack

1:50 AM

roflmao

Do gardens onebox?

@Dennis No.

@Dennis no.

@QPaysTaxes What show?

@EasterlyIrk thanks I didn't realize that

^^

1:51 AM

@EasterlyIrk ninja'd eleven

@Downgoat When you encounter an operator it gets put on the stack.

@Doorknob status-confirmed @Doorknob is @Dennis.

NinjaBearMonkey

Is there something special you have to do to get the people?

nope

Bathe

1:52 AM

@NinjaBearMonkey Yellow light I think

I got one in blue/yellow mixed.

Note: not green, it isn't greenish..

Also keep in mind this'll generate postfix expressions

@HelkaHomba Can != should

You have to do it a little differently to get prefix expressions

Don't quite remember

wtf

1:53 AM

@AlexA. huh?

1 min ago, by quartata

@NinjaBearMonkey Yellow light I think

34 secs ago, by quartata

Also keep in mind this'll generate postfix expressions

Two separate conversations

Chris Jester-Young

@AlexA. luyc.slack.com/archives/the-nineteenth-byte/p1459987771000005

still sounds weird.

One involving a goat the other involving a monkey

1:53 AM

oh

@Maltysen "Is there something special you have to do to get the people?" Yes, you have to bathe. You can't get people without cleaning yourself occasionally. :P

still is weird.

oh lel

^

@ChrisJester-Young Already been there and read it :)

@QPaysTaxes Huh, never heard of it.

Chris Jester-Young

1:54 AM

;-)

@AlexA. its an anime

^

@Maltysen Probably why I haven't heard of it then. :P

Would you guys get Google Fiber if you could? (1000Mbps for $70/month)

Gee I haven't watched a lick of anime in my life (except for Pokemon) and even I know what One Piece is. Get your act together @AlexA.

1:56 AM

^

Chris Jester-Young

@HelkaHomba Hell yes.

@HelkaHomba absolutely but they don't offer it here

@QPaysTaxes meh

Chris Jester-Young

@HelkaHomba I'm currently wearing a Google Fibre t-shirt!

@HelkaHomba Yeah, particularly because that's only marginally more than I pay per month for my shitty Comcast service.

1:57 AM

@quartata Same (hint hint @Google)

@ChrisJester-Young Surely the shirt says fiber though? ;P

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Chris Jester-Young

@AlexA. It does spell it the American way, but I refuse to.

@QPaysTaxes hahahahaha

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