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6:02 PM
attached to your tv ?
its pretty much useless anywhere else
oh, it already is ..
Mini-challenge: Print Google Plex (the full number) to the output as fast as you can. Standard loopholes are disallowed.
@Geobits My tray has 8 icons, but none of them super wide. It's actually pretty helpful.
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος Vitsy: '01'O9b*\DZ
@VoteToClose Have you tested it?
I had 1 too many zeroes. c;
6:09 PM
^ He's right. Also, I fixed it.
@Geobits Yup, that's what I meant
Output: 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000‌​0000000000000000000000
That's not nearly large enough :/
I did a googol. >.>
You want 10^(10^100), or large enough that it's pointless.
6:12 PM
^ Got it. :D
print "1"+"0"*10**(10**100) works, and I've tested it. I'll leave it to the OP to prove me wrong.
@Geobits My Python IDLE crashed
Mine didn't.
6:14 PM
Vitsy, better answer: '01'Oaa^\[aa^\[DO]]
Get perled m8
@quartata This is one googol.
@quartata I think you need a few more zeroes.
@VoteToClose Ew, you want a googolplex? Ugh
Dude: I've set up my autocorrect to autocorrect Vitsy to a markdown-supported link to Vitsy's github page. #worthit
6:17 PM
I don't think Perl can do this without a module. It just prints out "1"...
Make 100 print statements. c:
I don't think that would be enough to matter much, honestly.
@VoteToClose That would be long though
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You chose this life.
XD Look at the comments of this:
A: What am I even saying?

VoteToCloseAppleScript, (595-18)*.85 = 490.45 Bytes I beat somebody. set a to{"MEDIC!","Thanks!","Go Go Go!","Move Up!","Go Left","Go Right","Yes","No","Incoming","Spy!","Sentry Ahead!","Teleporter Here","Dispenser Here","Sentry Here","Activate ÜberCharge!","ÜberCharge Ready","Help!","FOR APPLESCRIPT!","C...

I like the original definition of googolplex better: "one, followed by writing zeroes until you get tired"
6:21 PM
The new definition of long: >20 bytes
Speak for yourself. 20 bytes isn't even halfway through the boilerplate ;)
It's almost there though - only 25 more bytes to go!
I have my screen limited to 10000 lines, and I still haven't finished printing out googolplex.
It's already filled the limit four times.
You won't ever finish printing it... ever.
This is my life now.
Yay! 2007 Rep!
This is your life, and your children's lives, and theirs, and theirs... the sad part is that nobody will ever see the end of it :(
6:30 PM
Oct 29 at 22:37, by VoteToClose
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@VoteToClose If I downvote 10 answers I'll be at exactly six times that :D
-.- I joined a month ago.
Dost thou even hoist?
Oh I didn't mean it like that, I just wanted to see how close it was to a multiple.
I knew I was around there.
XD Suuuure. Real Richard Action right there.
@VoteToClose Congrats to 3*3*223
6:33 PM
So, one of my female friends (gasp) just sent me the emoticon (y) and I did not think it meant thumbs up.
@Geobits Look at the activity chart, though. ;)
Pfft, you said joined ;)
Yeah, but I joined by accident then, and when I started getting notifications...
That's my entire rep chart. XD
Weird. What notifications do you get for sites you have zero activity on?
I have a few stray accounts, but never get notifications for them.
6:36 PM
hey all!
Notifications would be stuff like "questions you might be interested in" and stuff. Mainly for mobile notifications.
Heyo, Numbers whose square is a nontrivial concatenation of other squares!
@VoteToClose hahaha
I gave that question an up vote. XD I have my claim to fame if you become a famous mathematician.
> claim to fame <-- Yeah, no.
@VoteToClose i am not going to be a mathematician anyway .... I am interested mainly in biology... but I love all science, and math as well...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Okie den.
New challenge?
MINI CHALLENGE! Draw a spoopy guy with a cape made out of stars, a top hat and a monocle.
i.e. Draw Count Bleck.
Like this?
@flawr show me the code!
What code?
6:50 PM
For drawing le count.
@flawr it's a mini-challenge, so you need to show the code for the drawing
Didn't you guys know? The (weird) consensus on meta is that constant-output image challenges don't need code.
Sorry, code is closed source I think.
#Processing 3, 140 bytes
6:52 PM
@flawr then it is invalid for the task...
my lab exam was so easy haha
@TanMath And nobody ever said anything about programming. Why dont you just paint it in paint?
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος Standard loophole. Invalid ;)
@undergroundmonorail What kind of lab?
6:53 PM
@Geobits ^^^
Why does cs need a lab?
Computers not enough?
@undergroundmonorail I golfed my FRQs for CS on my last test. c:
@flawr i think the computers is the lab
My teacher was amused.
@VoteToClose What is headdesking?
6:54 PM
@Geobits I think you got confused with Java and Processing. Java is a standard loophole, Processing is not. :P
@flawr Lifting your head, then repeatedly (gently c:) smashing it onto your desk.
No... I mean fetching from external. Processing is just Java for kids anyway :P
the hardest part was a syntax thing i forgot. i knew arrays were implemented with pointers so some pointer syntax is redundant, but you do actually need the & in scanf("%c", &array);
the only other hard part was remembering the stupid style rules
@Geobits really? i though it was c++ for kids
Processing? No, it's based on Java...
6:56 PM
we have to write for loops like for (i = 0; i < arrayLen; i ++);. what is that last space doing there? go away
@VoteToClose Why would anyone do that????
> Silly Geobits! Processing is for kids!
@flawr To express extreme exasperation or denial of an action's occurrence.
#Url, ---107--- 20 bytes
That.... doesn't change the fact that you're fetching it...
If you're going to cheat, at least use an url shortener :P
@VoteToClose Luckily that never happens here=)
6:58 PM
@VoteToClose seriously..
@flawr ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You neeever know...
@VoteToClose This doesn't make sense. I'm the one who said that :/
@TanMath Yes. Seriously.
@VoteToClose BTW, try running 'ihateseriously'ihateseriously
who here got the second easter egg in the IDE?
6:59 PM
I found an easter egg from last year. Does that count?
Alright. I’m off to cook dinner. Au revoir!
does not do french
@Geobits no! the language wasn't even invented then!
@VoteToClose bye!
@VoteToClose Bye!
Aaah! The Sock!
Hi, everyone!
7:06 PM
@Sock whose sock are you?
@Sock It is christmas soon, why aren't you named stock?
@TanMath Nobody's... and everybody's...
@flawr Sock has a better ring to it
@flawr it's only christmas when the hats come...
@Sock Shock?
7:10 PM
Did you know that socket.io was named after me?
Turns out I only needed to do one thing.
Cook dinner is one thing.
@VoteToClose you are back?
frying pork ∈ cooking
Yeah. :D
@Sock Oh? :D
@VoteToClose (he's lying!)
7:14 PM
@TanMath (obvious sarcasm is obvious)
@TanMath Yes, I'm lying... on my bed :D
Do we have a list of socks somewhere?
We should call @ಠ_ಠ for the sock party.
Please not=/
Oh, @ಠ_ಠ !
7:16 PM
@flawr already called
come on over here!
How many socks are there in this chat?
Oh great disapproving one, we summon you!
@ಠ_ಠ I choose you!
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος 57
including you and me
@ಠ_ಠ Stay away.
7:17 PM
By the powers vested in me by the state of disapproval, I now pronounce @ಠ_ಠ and @Sock undefined gender and wife*. (*but not really because I don't really know. :D)
@ಠ_ಠ Do the opposite of @flawr.
@VoteToClose I think "Sock" is itself a gender.
I wonder what the engendered pronouns for the gender "sock" is.
Please choose:

[x] Male
[ ] Female
[ ] Sock
@flawr Not to mention, like, 40 other variations of gender.
7:20 PM
3 is not enough?
Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity. Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e. the state of being male, female or intersex), sex-based social structures (including gender roles and other social roles), or gender identity. Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word gender to refer to anything but grammatical categories. However, Money's meaning of the word did not...
not... ?
Of course, people would disagree with me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Idrc, though. xD
(we need to organize the sock party still)
I think everyone should have at least one sock.
As in... everyone should have an alt?
@Sock bye
Yes, then the sock party would be much bigger and more awesome
7:26 PM
> If you lose a foot, you now own twice as many socks.
Fractal socks. XD I call them all.
@VoteToClose Yes, so that you can have a different fractal as your profile pic
@VoteToClose Sorry, was taking care of some stuff. You rang?
@flawr rude.
hello @MartinBüttner
7:37 PM
how's it going?
why do we not have a Euler's Method challenge?!
Because you haven't written it yet :P
@Geobits really? so dibs for me? dibs on everything!!!!
I already have dibs on all the things. This is more like stuff.
@TanMath Because it sounds like it would be a challenge that specifies a certain algorithm, which is rarely a good idea.
7:39 PM
@MartinBüttner so it wouldn't be a good idea?
maybe not
It would be better to be more generic IMO. Give a problem that could use Euler's as a solution, but don't say it must use that. People may find golfier ways to do it.
I don't know much about it specifically or anything, but that's the general idea.
7:46 PM
hey guys totally random but I got a request to make e manuscript to compile generic information on the formation of programming languages and data compression (e.g. code golfing), with respect to a leisurely activity of such. I need to name it and make a subtitle for it. Any suggestions?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The Nineteenth Byte
"Wasting time with esoteric languages"
Not a bad title
Having the title would help a lot toward coming up with a subtitle.
@Geobits So far, I like @TimmyD s suggestion, and have separately come up with "Esoteric" and "Art of Reduction" (for titles)
Art of Reduction: ad absurdum
7:51 PM
That could be a secondary title for this chatroom :P
Or the site.
Reductio ad Elementi
@TimmyD you proficient in Latin?
(I'm not a Latin linguist, but I play one on the Internet)
"Reduction of components?" I don't speak latin.
@TimmyD Google translate? ;)
English-to-Latin dictionary and my cursory knowledge of romance languages
8:00 PM
Ah. Even better!
Q: Back to the chemistry class

AdriandmenIntroduction One of the first things I learned in chemistry, was giving the formula for the combustion of alkanes. The most basic example was: 2CH4 + 4O2 > 4H2O + 2CO2. Note that the equation could have been simplified by dividing every coefficient by 2, we would get CH4 + 2O2 > 2H2O + CO2. To m...

8:24 PM
@NewMainPosts great question.. look forward to answering it!
Why is this code wrong?:
if i[1]="H":
 return "2CH4 + 4O2 > 4H2O + 2CO2"
 return "2"+i+" + "+str(O)+"O2"+" > "+int(i[2])+"H2O"+ " + "+CO2+"CO2"
It answers the chemistry class question... the ideone error says SyntaxError: return outside function
i just had a neat idea for a challenge :o
Make code that works fine in Python but breaks in Ideone?
For me, that's any code. c:
oops.. the code I posted is not what causes the error...
lemme post again
8:37 PM
Use 4 spaces, not tick marks.
you can automatically format your message as code by pressing ctrl-k before you send
automatically puts 4 spaces at the beginning of every line
if i[1]=="H":
 return "2CH4 + 4O2 > 4H2O + 2CO2"
 return "2"+i+" + "+str(O)+"O2"+" > "+int(i[2])+"H2O"+ " + "+CO2+"CO2"
@undergroundmonorail oh.. thanks.. I got it...
It answers the chemistry class question... the ideone error says SyntaxError: return outside function
you're using return statements but you aren't inside of a function
@undergroundmonorail oh.. i just figured it out..
if you replaced i=input() with def f(i): and indented everything else by 1 it would work
8:39 PM
@undergroundmonorail yes...
but it still doesn't work...
ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'H' on line 7 in main.py
input was C2H6
Does == mean the same thing as it does in Java?
Or does it mean value over address comparison?
i'm pretty sure, yeah
it compares value
so maybe i don't know java that well :P
So... that's the exact opposite of Java. XD
so if i[1] is H the if statement should catch it
8:43 PM
@undergroundmonorail yes... that worked...
but the else statement doesn't work
Java's Objects (when calling the base toString() method or via direct comparison ==) will return/compare an address, not a value.
@VoteToClose a==b returns True if a and b are identical, but False if they are different...
That helps me so much. xD
Consider the following:
String a = "This is some text";
String b = "This is some text";
return a == b;
^ Would return true, because they're cached string objects.
@VoteToClose in Python, that would return True because they are exactly the same
String a = "This is some text";
String b = new String("This is some text");
return a == b;
8:46 PM
@TanMath ohh i was looking at the wrong line for the error, i see where the problem is now. i thought it was failing on O=3*int(i[1])+1 but it's failing on return "2"+i+" + "+str(O)+"O2"+" > "+int(i[2])+"H2O"+ " + "+CO2+"CO2" because int(i[2]) is "H"
^ Would return false, because they're two separate objects in memory.
@TanMath Java's == operator is the same as Python's is operator
@TanMath With input C2H6 the value of i[2] is H so int(I[2]) won't work
>>> a=b=[1]
>>> a == b
>>> a is b
>>> a = [1]
>>> b = [1]
>>> a == b
>>> a is b
huh.. weird.. I independently caught the error, and come here to see you caught the error too! thanks!
I have a working version now.. thanks!
8:48 PM
A: Back to the chemistry class

TanMathPython, 0.9*191 = 172 bytes i=input() if i[1]=="H": print "2CH4 + 4O2 > 4H2O + 2CO2" else: O=3*int(i[1])+1 CO2=2*int(i[1]) print "2"+i+" + "+str(O)+"O2"+" > "+i[3]+"H2O"+ " + "+str(CO2)+"CO2"

here is my answer
Oh, I didn't realize it was for a code golf thing
In that case there are a couple of places you can save bytes
Wow ... I miss the simplicity of == and is ... in PowerShell, you'd need to do something like $a.GetType() -eq $b.GetType()
Don't worry - in Java, to compare an type, you have to do
if (a instanceof b.getClass());
to do type comparisons.
8:57 PM
@VoteToClose Well, yeah ... because Java ...
In Python you're supposed to use isinstance() if you have to check types (though, you're not supposed to check types at all if you don't absolutely have to). If you're okay with bad practices, type(a) == type(b) works.

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