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00:00
now it'd be a cruel twist if they don't have enough board members for quorum
jrg
jrg
That would be cruel. ::
Oli
Oli
@MarcoCeppi How'd it go? Has it gone yet?
@Oli it's only just started
patience...
jrg
jrg
He's last too. :P
Oli
Oli
What's the IRC room? Can we listen in?
00:04
it's #ubuntu-classroom @oli
sorry
jrg
jrg
@Oli #ubuntu-meeting on freenode.
brain fail
Oli
Oli
lol
it's #ubuntu-meeting
yeah
jrg
jrg
haha no worries stefano. :D
00:05
I was reading through the old classroom stuff today (:
Oli
Oli
Are peons (non-members, people not involved in the proceedings, ie me) allowed in?
jrg
jrg
@Oli Yeah, it's expected to be that way.
@Oli it's expected that there are people there to support them
and it's a public channel
just don't interrupt :P
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch See? I've already made a few typos, and I'm not even up yet! takes a deep breath
@jrg you can edit them here, you can't on IRC :)
Oli
Oli
00:06
<paultag> WOOO!!!!!!!!
<paultag> I'm here to cheer for tenach!
Rofl
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch Yeah, I need to relax. :D
Oli
Oli
Cheering seems to be part of the process :)
I don't know why you're worried :)
I'm not even directly an ubuntu member anymore, I have indirect membership through core-dev
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch I'm not. <_>
Oli
Oli
@jrg Are you up today?
00:08
@Oli he's up next
jrg
jrg
Yeah, I am.
Oli
Oli
Is that too late for an on-wiki testimonial?
jrg
jrg
Nope, I'll re-link to it.
(as part of the introduction process)
@Oli easiest just to scream wildly your support in the irc channel
jrg
jrg
Yeah, that'd probably work best.
00:09
the board may have gone over the wiki pages prior to the meetings, or they may look now
jrg
jrg
True.
they seem to be moving slowly today
Do you know any ways to remove shift from terminals shortcuts ?
jrg
jrg
@rabidmachine9 not without breaking a lot of stuff.
it gets annoying sometimes
00:13
One down
jrg
jrg
8 to go for you.
@jrg you're up!
jrg
jrg
Yup.
I can already see what will go wrong
time to heckle
00:14
what's going on?
can I play?
:P
IRC meeting
in which channel?
Oli
Oli
#ubuntu-meeting
jrg
jrg
Ok, that was a lame "few words". :D
Oli
Oli
I thought you'd George VI'd it for a minute :)
00:16
I wrote a paragraph
Maybe I should tone that down.
for a second I thought he'd decided to go off to get a sandwich & a beer :)
Oli
Oli
rofl
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch haha
Oli
Oli
Woot.
00:18
@jrg see, that wasn't hard
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch :)
awesome James, nice work
jrg
jrg
Thanks Stefano. :)
whew, two down in only 20 mins :P
Oli
Oli
:)
jrg
jrg
00:19
:)
what kind of meeting is that?
@MarcoCeppi at this rate you may be deferred, sorry
@rabidmachine9 ubuntu membership board
what are they voting about?
ok
Oli
Oli
So about payment for my testimonials... I accept Visa and Mastercard and anything that Paypal takes.
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@rabidmachine9 Ubuntu membership
00:21
Should have applied earlier, always next month :D
I expect rep & badges for my help :)
it's ok :)
How long are these? only 60 mins?
Oli
Oli
I'll be honest, I was expecting more of an interview-style process. A few questions, "My computer won't turn on, how do I fix it?!1", etc.
Oh there you go
@MarcoCeppi generally yes
00:26
They should make these longer, just sayin' :P
@MarcoCeppi that'd burn out board members faster
this one has a high number of applicants
@Oli they rely on testimonials from people, given the very broad range of ways that people can contribute to ubuntu & get membership
Oli
Oli
Fair enough. But anybody could write a testimonial "Oli shoots laser beams from his, ..." etc.
they also love locos by the looks of it
Oli
Oli
OT: wouldn't that be a fun party trick?
Fun party trick? I think the military might be interested in hiring you :)
jrg
jrg
00:30
Yeah, that was something paultag mentioned (the loco stuff)
picking up steam, lets go Membership board team \o/
@Oli people have to sign testimonials on the wiki
Where are we in the process? I just joined the channel.
as in link to their LP profile, I think
@GeorgeEdison slowly getting through them
Marco up yet... I didn't miss it?
Oli
Oli
00:31
@ajmitch That's what I've been doing but what stops you signing it with somebody else's?
Y U NO TYPE OUT YOUR INTRO BEFORE HAND?!
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison You didn't miss him.
@Oli you need to log in as them :) they can just check out the changelog
jrg
jrg
@MarcoCeppi Sorry. :P
@GeorgeEdison marco's dead last
00:31
haha, you kind of got the shaft being first
@jrg you're an ubuntu member now - you have to be nice & hug people ;)
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch NEVER. Well, I can be nice.
Just no hugs. :D
you're no dholbach
Oli
Oli
We could speed things up with a few "This user hacked into my project and replaced every instance of the with kitten, setting us back by about five years!" just to bomb the people ahead of Marco :)
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jrg
jrg
@Oli lol.
Crap, this train is arriving at 8:45
Oli
Oli
Get the next one. Or derail it. The first is probably easier.
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch Nice.
@MarcoCeppi you're going to get disconnected in a few minutes?
I'm on phone 3G
and I have IRC Cloud, so it'll keep me connected even if I'm not
00:35
nothing to worry about then :)
just need to park in a bench at the station without too much delay
If your get disconnected, we can do the talking ;-)
you just have to do a reverse captcha at some point :P
Though, I don't think I'm going to get a chance to speak. It's been very exciting process though
exciting?
Oli
Oli
00:38
Could you not just ask them to bump you up? I'm sure they'd be fairly understanding
they'd be more likely to defer rather than making others wait until next month
No, that's not fair since not everyone may get a chance
Oli
Oli
Oh right, it's a time limited event?
Yeah, unfortunately (for me) :P
@Oli board members are volunteers as well :)
Oli
Oli
00:39
@ajmitch Sure
Many years ago in the distant past I was on an ubuntu board
Oli
Oli
Does anybody vote negatively in these things?
@Oli yes I've seen that a few times
jrg
jrg
@Oli I haven't seen anyone
yes, though it's more common for people to vote +0 & suggest that they come back in a few months
jrg
jrg
00:41
I've seen a few abstains, but no downvotes.
Oli
Oli
@StefanoPalazzo What sort of thing have they voted against? (what reasons, I mean)
sometimes people apply though they've only been active for a few weeks or a couple of months
Oli
Oli
@ajmitch Yeah that makes sense.
Looks like two are missing
I might be able to make it in!
Oops, miscounted
@Oli In the instances I've seen, people haven't been active for long enough, or their contribution hasn't been sustained.
Oli
Oli
00:43
I think I'll get started on my wiki page.
I've also seen some weird ones where I couldn't tell what the reason was
@Oli Lol... me too :P
Oli
Oli
Although I can all but guarantee that damned Geoff Daglas will come along and edit the kittens out
walking with mny netbook open
I should probably update my wiki page, I haven't touched it for about 5 years
jrg
jrg
00:44
@MarcoCeppi Dangerous.
Oli
Oli
@ajmitch Yeah I'd hurry up before Jorge comes along and deletes it.
I lie, nearly 4 years since I last touched it :)
De-trained
@Oli as long as he doesn't remove me from the developers group on LP as well :)
3 ppl 15 mins, going to be close </live-chatting-of-event>
Oli
Oli
00:47
Is there a template for membership jibjabs?
Can the rest of us say good things about Marco when (if) his turn comes up?
I just copy-pasted from another member
Is that acceptable?
@GeorgeEdison Yes
jrg
jrg
00:48
I actually stole paultag's formatting. :P
@GeorgeEdison I'm sure that you can
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison I intend to even if it wasn't "acceptable". It's encouraged.
I just like to be different
Oli
Oli
It's all under CC-SA-3.0
jrg
jrg
00:54
Little brother heard me say something about my wiki page. His comment? "WHOA. You're on Wikipedia?!" rofl.
now I have to go & create a fan page for @jrg on wikipedia...
jrg
jrg
@ajmitch Oh please no.
that'll make him insufferable. :)
make him insufferable, or make you? :)
@jrg Maybe some day in the future :)
@MarcoCeppi it may be hard for the meeting to continue with some board members missing :(
01:00
Looks like they're going to keep on going
I thought that 4 wouldn't be enough, I guess I may be wrong
Oli
Oli
How many people until you, Marco?
I'm next
Except, come on dude introduce yourself
Oli
Oli
Right, I'll be back after a cig
he's probably typing still
01:02
frail
an hour to prepare
:P
heh, no intro needed
jrg
jrg
@MarcoCeppi You'll get it.
Okay, up next
jrg
jrg
hit the wrong button
They wanted to get through everyone.
wow, dead silence.
they're stunned
They're speechless.
jrg
jrg
01:07
:D
@MarcoCeppi welcome aboard.
Oli
Oli
w00t
Congrats, @MarcoCeppi!
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Hey you made that look too easy :D
nicely done
jrg
jrg
Congrats @MarcoCeppi!!!!
Thanks guys! Congrats to you too @jrg
Oli
Oli
01:11
But seriously. Visa. Mastercard. Paypal. Or Ben&Jerry's at a push.
@MarcoCeppi now where's my payment?
What... I missed @jrg???
Nooooooooo!
@GeorgeEdison He was first :)
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison Yeah, you really missed me. :D
Aw man :(
jrg
jrg
01:12
@MarcoCeppi Thanks!
@jrg: Well, congrats!
jrg
jrg
@Oli I'll see what I can do. ;)
Okay, time to go home
now that you've got membership you can get back to the mod queue - there's more spam :(
see you marco o/
01:12
drafts email to [email protected]...
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison wait ~48 hours, you'll get a bounce.
Is it based on IRC nick, or do you get to chose?
jrg
jrg
BTW, I'm framing that email saying nhandler added me to the ubuntumembers group. :)
@MarcoCeppi based on LP username
jrg
jrg
ninja'd
01:13
marco-ceppi then, that'll be odd :D
@jrg I know :P Hence the draft.
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison :P
@ajmitch Where is this spam?
I can't find it anywhere.
Cool, I can change my nick to update the alias
Oli
Oli
01:14
I've nuked it. The less time it spends on the site - the better the chance that whoever is posting it will give up.
:(
And the fewer spam flags I can use...
@Oli thanks
Oli
Oli
Sorry :(
the amount of spam is annoying
I seem to have deleted them too, for good measure
01:16
it's usually the same sort of patterns
I'm just kidding.
there's another one to kill
I'll ask the SE team to filter them. they're all very similar, it should be possible
often on the same questions, too
Oli
Oli
I really wish we could ban IPs.
jrg
jrg
You have to get the SE team to ban IPs.
Bounty offered: Skype not launching from menu but works from command line http://askubuntu.com/questions/65792/skype-not-launching-from-menu-but-works-from-command-line #skype
Oli
Oli
@jrg Indeed. They're slow though so we should have the power to do that.
jrg
jrg
@Oli They think you'll abuse it.
uhm
don't I remember that new users can't post links?
or was that just images?
Oli
Oli
01:18
@jrg I've never abused a moderator power in my time here!
@StefanoPalazzo they have a limit on how many links, iirc
Yeah, the link quantity is limited.
you'd think the system would autoban an IP if they get over X amount of spam flags
or allow moderation based on keywords
put such posts into a mod queue until someone checks them
I just flagged another fake rolex watch post
01:26
I sent a cry for help to team@se. let's see what happens
this only really started happening the last week or so
I wonder if we're becoming famous!
probably
Was it this user?
@JorgeCastro That's definitely true - we didn't see a lot of that up until this point.
@GeorgeEdison they use a different (unregistered) account for each post
@GeorgeEdison deleted now, but probably
01:28
I always destroy the accounts too when I delete the posts
there are commonalities in the usernames, susan is one that's been used a few times
they're always a single lowercase word with 1 rep, easy to spot on the frontpage
yeah, by humans :(
right
all we can do for now
You are doing a fantastic job anyway. The amount of time spam survives on the site is pretty awesome even by our own standards
Hah! Got one:
scores another flag!!!
01:33
well done
Ooops. I think in the hurry I flagged it as a non-answer instead of spam.
at least it gives us things to edit
Oh well - it's gone now.
@JorgeCastro I should be editing all these spam posts to get badges, right? ;)
I don't even bother, I just flag em
iirc flagging as spam notifies all mods on all SEs
01:35
I've just been flagging as spam
@JorgeCastro that's just for the chat
oh, :-/
For those who want a real thrill: api.askubuntu.com/1.1/answers
Just refresh that - it's the latest up-to-the-minute / bleeding-edge of answers posted.
I need to write a spam flagger app then :)
Heh... with... drumroll...
01:38
↑ ?body=true should work I think
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Q: Stack.PHP - Completely Rewritten from the Ground Up [0.4 beta 2 Released!]

George Edison Don't know where to start? Stack.PHP is a PHP library for accessing and retrieving information from the Stack Exchange API. Head over here for a quick tutorial on setting up and using Stack.PHP. About Why you should use Stack.PHP: Stack.PHP has been completely rewritten from...

no please no make the bad man go away
I deal with PHP enough at work, I don't want to touch it for other projects as well :P
But this actually makes PHP fun again:
API::Site('askubuntu')->Answers()->Exec();
There you go - all the answers on the site. Just like that.
still doesn't make PHP fun
they always spam that desktop mockup question
01:42
protect the question?
I doubt it'd help at all
good idea!
@Oli: -----^
since they'd just go on & spam a different question
01:43
done
I want to get a question to 10k views :)
@ajmitch yeah but when they spam at least it bumps a question and I can edit it
if they stay on the same one there's no side benefit
Oli
Oli
@GeorgeEdison What are you pointing me at?
I see
We need a question protected.
01:47
I still doubt it'll help much
I protected it
I think its a 15k or 20k level thing
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Q: Is there an Ubuntu One files iPad client

xjstever81I saw the post about there being Ubuntu One Files for the iPhone in the works, is there one for the iPad as well? This would be very helpful for my work. Thanks

Note to self: threading is hard.
02:12
It'd be really nice if it were beer o'clock right now
heh
15:15 * ajmitch tends to be allergic to cpanel
15:15 < cortesi> as a penetration tester, i like cpanel very much indeed.
Oli
Oli
Well I've just written a rather horrible data.stackexchange.com script. Feed it your user ID on the site and it'll tell you how many answers you've had, how many unique users owned those questions, how many of those answers were accepted, and of those, again how many unique users.
Essentially: How many people have you helped on Ask Ubuntu.
whoa, that is awesome!
slightly outdated info?
it says I've had 46 answers
Oli
Oli
They're answers that weren't on your own questions.
the last data dump was 3 october
woo, 169 for me!
Oli
Oli
02:27
Or are they? Can't remember
Yeah, it blocks out self-answers.
I've only self-answered one
& I have 59 total answers now
Oli
Oli
Hmm
If Jorge is right about the date of the dump, that excludes 11 of your latest answers
I'm sure I haven't answered that many this month :)
Oli
Oli
If you've only answered one of your own, there's still 2 missing answers
doesn't really matter I guess
probably better to care about deleting more spam :)
Oli
Oli
02:34
@ajmitch I hear you. All deleted.
thanks :)
@JorgeCastro Er, what?
I thought the last data dump was September?
october 4th
I was off by a day
Ooooooh - on the Data.SE site.
They use monthly dumps and give the rest of us quarterly dumps :P
03:27
hmmm
@GeorgeEdison is the AU lens flaky for you?
every once in a while it just stops working
@JorgeCastro The lens itself? I don't know.
I actually don't have it installed ATM.
Oh dear
The data server is running though.
After all that work that was put in... :)
Don't panic. I've still been diligently working on the server.
Within a few short days, users will be running a local copy on their machines.
It's just taking a tad longer than I expected due to some "threading" issues :P
(Threads can be evil if used improperly.)
03:30
2 separate spam answers on the same question
Thanks! [Increases flag weight further...]
(Yes, flag weight is one of my obsessions until I reach 750.)
you're as bad as the rest of us, trolling after badges
it's going to take a long time to reach 750
Oli
Oli
03:59
Well I've started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oli
Whoever gives the best testimonial doesn't get banned >:)
04:10
@Oli such incentives...
Bounty offered: Pulse doesn't recognize laptop microphone http://askubuntu.com/questions/67451/pulse-doesnt-recognize-laptop-microphone #pulseaudio
04:30
I hear they are selling flag weight like crazy this days.
I like the wiki from Oli. It true shows the work that many slav... people do in Ubuntu.
slaving away, the only thanks we get is a promise of not being banned... :)
My testimonial - "Oli has slapped me silly many times over in my time here at Askubuntu. I am truly hurt and need of medical assistance."
"The mental scars that I have from my time on Ask Ubuntu, will be with me for years thanks to Oli"
"Ask not what you can do for Askbuntu. Ask what you can do for Oli"
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"I came to Oli for help on solving problems in Ubuntu. I am happily back in Windows."
Oli
Oli
@ajmitch And even then, that promise is conditional on writing the best testimonial.
04:37
@Oli I'll be sure to turn up to the meeting & bring these transcripts :)
"I have always voted in favor of Oli. It is better to be banned than to be banged!"
goes and flags all of Oli's posts as "not constructive"...
Oli
Oli
* polishes the banhammer
Time to upload a special update to ubuntu, just for @Oli
04:40
is it "oily" ^^
Noone will notice if I slip in a libc6 update, will they?
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"The PC Spy"... AHA!!! I knew it all along - a Mac fanboy at heart...
Gasp!
@brunopereira81: If you think this is funny, read this: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/201/conversation/…
(From earlier today.)
pffff lollll

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