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@JeremyBicha Hooray!

1:45 AM

woo alright!

is 2k editing?

Q: Ubuntu 11.10 Upgrade, ssh fails to auth by public key (periodically)

Alright, which silly application was responsible for making all JPGs open with the Gimp?

Roland Taylor

@JorgeCastro yes

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

2:17 AM

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After an upgrade of desktop and server (both) to Ubuntu 11.10, periodically the desktop is unable to perform publickey authentication with the server (-v option reveals nothing of evidently use). Using the same key from pre-11.10 and Windows partitions is successful. "Any ideas what gives?" T...

Q: ¿How to edit swap partitions?

Er...

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I've done several installations of different Ubuntu versions on my machine one over the other from a CD or live usb, and now I have a mess of swap partitions (something like 10 of them), so I need to eliminate all those and create a new one. I also need to know how to tell the system that the new...

partitioning swap disk-management

Should I edit out the "¿" ???

ajmitch

3:48 AM

spammers should die painfully

4:10 AM

Bounty offered: Linking problems after updating to 11.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/69119/linking-problems-after-updating-to-11-10 #gcc

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 22, 2011 at 4:06 AM

Q: How can I check if my Ubuntu machine is not a part of a botnet?

@ajmitch They're back???

This is an interesting question:

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Is there any simple way to check if my Ubuntu machine is not a part of a botnet?

security botnet

5:37 AM

I've been wondering the same thing.

6:12 AM

I know! I know! @oxwivi

It used to be used to move a complete block of text! still works in Excel. On a linux tty it also should work as a pause.

Good morning :)

morguh! :=)

@Rinzwind Play/pause audio/video?

nope!

scroll text in a tty (like 'ls -l' on a large directory and hit scroll lock)

Ah.

6:17 AM

:=)

Wo can hit this button that fast enough?

Oh and nowadays it's also used to switch terminals when connected with a KVM switch!

if you still use one of those :X

I have a KVM switch at work.

Lots of cable on my desk.

then you might be able to use scroll lock to switch :=D

now where's my rep for this answer oxwivi? :=D

@Rinzwind I dunno, ask the SE guys to allow something like on the chat. :)

6:21 AM

I know the answer they will give me :(
you got swag so that's your rep >:D

6:39 AM

Service alert: AU Data Server is down for maintenance for the next few minutes.

Service alert: AU Data Server's scheduled maintenance is complete. Normal service has resumed.

7:14 AM

Bounty offered: Downloads from Chrome or any shortcut from Places menu opens with Evince http://askubuntu.com/questions/68394/downloads-from-chrome-or-any-shortcut-from-places-menu-opens-with-evince #nautilus

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 22, 2011 at 7:06 AM

7:56 AM

goedemorgen (or is it 'goede morgen'?)

8:23 AM

the 1st one :-)

How does juju differ from Landscape?

Capt.Nemo

8:49 AM

landscape is more to manage servers (get new ones etc)

juju allows you to add/remove services to servers easily

@CaptNemo juju sets up and manages relations between the servers, so isn't there some overlap in their functions?

Capt.Nemo

>Landscape is an easy-to-use systems management and monitoring service.
>Juju provides service orchestration.

juju is only for managing services. For the frontend user, they are pretty separated stuff. But for the internals of their working, I guess it must be overlapping

Hmm, ah, I guess Landscape can integrate juju optionally?

Capt.Nemo

I havent tried out either yet, so I cant say

Boo @AmithKK

8:59 AM

Hi all

WTF Where is my rep

@AmithKK They were so delicious, I couldn't stop gorging on them. Sorry.

LOL

seriously

it was 885 yday and now its 812

@AmithKK Go to Activity, maybe someone downvoted you? Or do the rep get penalized if ye're booted from chat? ;)

Q: How to run FSCK with write capabilities on a sever with 4+ partitions

nvm i dont care bout rep

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I wanted to know how to run the fsck command on a server with write capabilities. The command should run structurally from sda1 to sda4...

server mount hard-drive fsck

Me no get good answer

Good!

compiz got fixed

9:22 AM

A: How to assign a terminal based program as a default program for a particular filetype

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In your home should be a .vimrc file, edit that file: vim ~/.vimrc Add this line (or edit it) to change the size of the vim editor when opening: set lines=80 columns=100 Adjust those values to fit your needs. For files handling in gnome you will have to use the graphical version of vim calle...

morning!

good morning @brunopereira81

@AmithKK did it in 15, where is my cookie?!

@brunopereira81 You got RickRol'd

@AmithKK dont know what/who that is my im getting excited!

morning spelling sucks! need coffee!

(afk)

9:34 AM

@AmithKK Handful? It's damn easy.

@Oxwivi Its supposed to rickroll you

I never really understood what 'rickroll' really means.

10:02 AM

@AmithKK They should make an iPhone app like that. :D

more and less crappy. certainly not "good" and "bad".

@AmithKK Yeah, it'd be great if they followed the trend and failed horribly. Tablet OEMs will only have Linux-based OS that way. :)

any moderator here? -> askubuntu.com/questions/70572/… ... can you delete the last one answer rm -r .* ???

10:15 AM

Bounty offered: Lenovo Z360 sometimes doesn't suspend, freezing up completely http://askubuntu.com/questions/12197/lenovo-z360-sometimes-doesnt-suspend-freezing-up-completely #suspend

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 22, 2011 at 10:06 AM

oh the spam is back

@hhlp yeah, i thought about editing that stuff out, but it already has a couple of downvotes, so i'm not sure why anyone would try it. :-/

i flagged it for low quality removal

Alerted Stefano

@hhlp i edited it.

thx htorque..

when will this spam end?

10:20 AM

@htorque When AU dies?

when AU dies, the world ends.

@htorque And UF rejoice.

19 flags waiting for review - moderators shouldn't be allowed to enjoy weekends :D

@htorque There are weekends for moderators and sysadmins?

apparently (well, not for sysadmins :P)

10:24 AM

Yay, let's hope I can use it as an excuse to stay away from home - if can get a job using the RHCE that is. :/

Whisch is the most powerful Graphics card ubuntu can use?

@AmithKK Intel!

@Oxwivi I mean discreet

^ Wonder if i can do that for to convert my friends to ubuntu

@AmithKK ... What happened there...?

@AmithKK Eh, if they're gamers, they've got no use for Ubuntu.

i played css, tf2 and quake live in ubuntu without any problems, so i'd say it depends on the games. :)

10:30 AM

spam -> askubuntu.com/questions/9578/…

@htorque Wine? Regardless, they'd never bother configuring such stuff.

I tried convincing them too.

there's nothing to configure

installed steam via wine (like "wine steam_installer.exe", the rest was normal steam stuff)

@htorque Isn't there winetricks and such to configure the settings for each game or program?

of course, if you have a windows license you would certainly not bother trying the games with an OS that's not great for windows games...

@Oxwivi again, depends on the game.

10:34 AM

@htorque Exactly. I tried to win them, but they would rather not find out which games will work and which games won't. :/

hehe, just protected another question, so spammers can't post

spammer, u mad?

:D

There are people who likes some stuff and are hell-bent on fixing them (like Ubuntu and ourselves), and there are people who just to use things and just dismiss them "why won't it work?"

yeah, but why are they using games or windows then? don't tell me, everything is awesome in windows. don't tell me all games work great. :P

it's just that they learned to live with windows flaws and are too tired to learn to live with linux flaws. :D

@htorque This is how it goes: I've got friends Facebook and MSN Messenger, yay! I've got a report to make, Microsoft Office of course! Games only work fine on Windows.

And 70% of the time on games.

Facebook is about 30%, but has moved to mostly mobile phones and stuff now.

Reports and stuff from school are negligible.

stop gaming. it's awesome! and you will hate yourself for spending thousands of hours with gaming instead of doing other stuff. :P

10:42 AM

Eh, don't tell me. It's my friends who are wasting their time gaming. While I'm wasting my time looking to make Ubuntu perfect for myself (and thinking of how to make an avatar to make a big entry into the community).

And to be honest, I don't game because I'm still stuck on a Pentium 4. Though I do get bored of games pretty easily.

@Oxwivi So, you too huh?

@AmithKK Which part? Bored or Pentium?

@Oxwivi Pentium

@AmithKK Aw yeah, and don't I hate it! Fan controller's broken, always running at full speed. No integrated Intel. NVIDIA FX 5500, Unity doesn't work even if the blob driver is there and the test says all requirements met. Forcing Unity on and nouveau makes Unity run, but not a single icon shows on launcher.

(as of 11.04)

Keh, nvidia is too slow for me

so im on XFCE

10:48 AM

I like eye candy a bit, the defaults at least. ;)

I had upgraded to 11.10 once during Alpha and it was slower than Windows Vista.

No idea how it is now.

LOL

your on 11.04 now?

Aye.

And running Unity.

@Oxwivi 3d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@AmithKK want to spend the rest of the day without the chat?

@htorque umm.. no?

10:49 AM

stop flagging stuff

The labels for the icons work fine, and the arrows for the number of windows too, so I can use it even if the icons doesn't show on the launcher.

:| PFFT @htorque Im OUT! I NO DO IT

the sound of guilt :P

more spam :-/

@htorque Should I flag them too...? hides

@htorque BTW What did i flag?

10:55 AM

6 mins ago, by Oxwivi

I had upgraded to 11.10 once during Alpha and it was slower than Windows Vista.

Meh, if you feel i deserve it. Do the ban

i can't ban

or kick or whatever

Ill be on IRC if you want me for somethig

i just want you do stop flagging such postings. it will ping ALL 10k+ users and mods

@htorque Actually i was going for the Reply button

and i have this userscript in chrome

Actually i got a good idea:

Put the flag thingy in the drop down menu with a captcha only

10:59 AM

@AmithKK Not a good idea, it will make it easier to click something else.

spam -> askubuntu.com/questions/65341/…

WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THIS SPAM?

@AmithKK Cause we're famous, popular. So bear with it. (Or not, since you don't deal with any of it anyway)

@Oxwivi LOL Perfection

@AmithKK I'm something of a perfectionist, yes.

That's why I'm never really satisfied with my Ubuntu install.

Still working on it. :)

11:04 AM

Neither am I

my graphics seem unsupported

@AmithKK Even with nouveau?

@Oxwivi not_tried

@AmithKK Then do try. On 11.04 my GPU is blacklisted, installing the experimental driver not only disregards the blacklist, but also works.

Except for the launcher icons, of course.

@Oxwivi my ie crasher works! :D

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it's a javascript with a 1==1 while loop

that adds a picture to the screen every loop! :D

@Alvar Banzai! Do flash a warning a second before to say IE will crash, change to different browser. ;)

11:13 AM

@Oxwivi ya

you get a warnign saying ie will crash now! :D

well I haven't actually tried it in ie yet, but in firefox it crashed so ie must crash as well

Hell yea! Great job @Alvar !

In will pastebin it!

Gimme the link, I'll try it out on my father's machine/

it has a bit of funny code

you need the jpg as well

google.se/…

oh, paranormal activity 3 premiers this weekend? they seem to have some bad promotion. :P

11:16 AM

that picture

@Oxwivi paste.ubuntu.com/715873

I got it zipped with picture and everything but no where to upload it

@Alvar Crashes!?

@AmithKK when you click the image

it's a portal 1 joke

@Alvar Only a tab crashes on IE8 or 9, whatever the latest version was. :(

@Oxwivi ok I'll make an update! :P

11:31 AM

Anybody bored?

@Oxwivi paste.ubuntu.com/715885 It should work now, it opens unlimited amounts of tabs! :)

@AmithKK no! ;)

next spam. gone after 2 minutes. time to give, ya noobs! :D

*give up

need more coffee

@htorque ^Co?

11:49 AM

and another one, think i'm going to open a meta post

@htorque They no care

I think we need to rev the spam filtah up for a week

yay I got an upvote! askubuntu.com/questions/70600/…

the ironi of my second version is that I got the javascript on how to open tabs from Microsoft website! :D

1500 rep! :D

whaaat?!?!
http://askubuntu.com/questions/52092/photoshop-cs4-portable-crashes-in-wine-on-text-input/52103#52103

nNouveau is not there in jockey

maybe look for nouveau :P

12:10 PM

How do you know if I'm running Unity 3D or 2D? Finally booted into a 11.10 live USB.

Notification is showing great transparency as it does with Compiz enabled in 11.04, but I just want to make sure.

I'm on fire today!

I had a test at the university and now I really throw out answers! :D

Installed nouveau-firmware no difference

12:47 PM

@AmithKK Is that what it's called on Oneiric?

1:00 PM

Im on LXDE and no Appearance

FUUUUU

NO MORE DE?

i'm glad i don't need a HDD right now - due to the floods in thailand prices raised a lot!

@htorque You Thai?

no, but hdd stuff produced there :P

Ah.

1:16 PM

Bounty offered: Installing apt-cacher server for two ubuntu versions http://askubuntu.com/questions/64731/installing-apt-cacher-server-for-two-ubuntu-versions #aptcacher

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 22, 2011 at 1:06 PM

@Oxwivi ಠ_ಠ

@AmithKK What happened to your eyes?!

I NEEDZ MY DESKTOP BACK

1:33 PM

spam -> askubuntu.com/questions/65301/…

2:02 PM

@ajmitch @fossfreedom meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/110030/…

seems we should not edit the spam posts, just flag as spam.

Marco Ceppi

Yes please <3

2:17 PM

ok, i'll roll all back haha

:D

6 flags before the community guy auto-removes them - too many for our site. :-(

Marco Ceppi

@je2tom You did the right thing when flagging that question. If a user no longer can replicate the issue (or if they just uninstalled the program) then flagging the question to be closed as too localized is the way to go.

2:47 PM

<-- says hello

<-- says hello

--> is happy :)

:-)

3:03 PM

omg omg omg :D

@htorque Oh shit, that's some serious Apple fanboyism!

Too bad it's a pumpkin.

Ce n'est pas une pomme

3:23 PM

ok guys

it's becoming clear that people aren't finding nvidia-optimus

I see a bunch of questions about people's broken dual video card things

what do you suggest?

@Takkat:

:D

@JorgeCastro I think people not realizing they're running Optimus hardware more of an issue here.

yeah

do people know they have optimus.

3:25 PM

but we're supposed to ask for hw info anyway

or that it is called that way.

Is there any command that easily distinguishes Optimus hardware?

I bet they know it's Nvidia and therefore supposed to be fine...

it should be clear from lspci | grep VGA

@htorque We can have this as a standard request for any Nvidia question, then.

3:26 PM

let me check (though it could be different on other systems as on my thinkpad i can turn each gpu on in bios or optimus)

Q: How well do laptops with Nvidia Optimus work?

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I am considering buying a Dell XPS 15 laptop. The laptop has a nvidia 420m card which should work with linux but I keep reading about the Nvidia optimus technology that isn't supported on Linux. I am not really interested in switching from Nvidia to intel to save power but need to know that the N...

driver hardware nvidia-optimus

we have this

I think the problem is

if you run it with the intel thing it works fine

but then jockey detects nvidia

and then you install it

then explosion sounds

Jockey patches?

jockey doesn't patch anything

@JorgeCastro What I mean is, patch jockey so it blacklists Optimus.

well that doesn't really help us right now

3:30 PM

That's true, just a long-run suggestion.

bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/660443

already filed!

I think I will just bounty the big optimus question

and ask for it to be updated

Can we have Community bot to automatically comment and request, on nvidia, lshw or whatever it is will help us recognize Optimus?

sorry, took a bit:

[17:30] ~ $ lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [NVS 3100M] (rev a2)

i've actually no idea what's running by default

@htorque So any computer, regardless of desktop or laptop, is susceptible to Optimus issues?

nouveau and i915 loaded

i have no idea, i'm always running it on intel :D

it's just that not all users can do that

their gpus are always both running

3:34 PM

Then how is it possible to distinguish Optimus from regular setups?

so like jorge says, jockey sees the nvidia gpu, offers the blob, then boom

@htorque running doesnt mean that the system is really using it

well, regular setups won't have two gpus showing, no?

from all the questions we see the issue is that the user wants to run the nvidia

it's detected, else the system wouldn't have loaded both drivers

3:35 PM

@htorque Well, if I have an Intel desktop with an additional nVidia card...

@Oxwivi then you need a Z68 chipset, else the integrated gpu won't do anything

but thats not possible, they install the driver, but the linux driver has not support for the switching

@brunopereira81 only one is used, but both are running, both suck power

@htorque idd

i have no idea how much progress has been made on the hybrid gpu front

3:37 PM

@htorque but the linux driver does not support any switching

bumblebee thingy

nvidia has to solve the driver, bumblebee is really not a great solution (its the only one atm that works sort off and +1 for the developers)

right now - with both active - i can manually unload the intel driver and load the nouveau/nvidia blob without a problem (i'll just lose the ttys)

true, but a normal user does not want to do that :(

the real problem is, that notebook vendors sell crap. if people were able to disable optimus in the bios and choose either intel or nvidia, everything would be fine.

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3:39 PM

@htorque yeah

that's no fix for the optimus problem, but at least it would give them a working system.

some of them are able to do so

that's not sucking their batteries dry in a short time :)

for most thats not an issue, they think all the slowness on their system will be solved by having a working nvidia card

they want 3d! and they want it NOW! :P

give me a minute, i'll try how this works on a Z68 based system (this bord never has seen a dedicated gpu yet :D)

3:41 PM

z68 enables you to disable the internal, thats not the same as a hybrid!

@htorque How does this fare on the Optimus? sudo grep MXMS *

we are talking about chipsets that using drivers enable and disable gpus.

no drivers = no good solution

@htorque Hybrid nVidia and ATI are not the same as having 2 cards on the same system (thats why you can disable the intel and run nvidia easy as that)

@brunopereira81 might be a different story, but causes the same issue. if you are running intel, jockey sees nvidia and installs the blob (which creates the xorg.conf with 'nvidia' in it), next boot will be black screen.

i guess

@htorque no because the driver that is loaded by jokey in your case is the correct one for your card, in hybrid solutions there is no support yet (nvida whise at least). so the driver says nvidia and loads nvida but doesnt do anything at all.

it's the correct one for the nvidia gpu, but afaic those hybrid systems have intel running as primary gpu.

3:50 PM

Help!

so when X loads nvidia, it loads the wrong driver, because the system only uses intel

compiz makes the xfce panel

dissapear

@htorque yeah, thats what I understood also

8 more rep for 3k! :P

like what i have now with optimus: intel and nouveau loaded (so the system sees both), but X uses intel. if i start jockey, it tell me to install nvidia-current. that would put 'nvidia' in the xorg.conf and my next boot would result in a new question on Ask Ubuntu :D

lol yeah

3:52 PM

the z68 thing seems to be different, have to do more reading

i have only weird bios options for that

@htorque i can answer your question using the 100 ones I copy pasted as replies: delete nvidia, reboot

the z68 allows boot from: internal, external, internal+external

its different