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Noctrine

12:02 AM

:|

You're giving mmyers the wrong impression of us

Alex M.

no I'm not

I'm just stating facts

look at this

this is how they like to live

would you not be frustrated to have something like this in your country?

and worse

see that everyone has the impression that everyone in your country is like that?

Matt D

12:18 AM

morning

Noctrine

Morning

hasherr

12:40 AM

Top o the mornin'

My LibGDX game isn't running... herm.

concept3d

commenting on that picture, come to the middle east and you will see faaaar worse than that.

Grey

^ from jordan right?

concept3d

yes

@Grey You came here before? Petra anyone ?

Grey

Nah. I have a couple of childhood friends from Jordan though, and speak of it very highly. They've brought me lots of food back from jordan so it's on my list. haha.

concept3d

Well Jordan is far better than the neighbor countries.

we still have many problems though

and it's nice you have friends from here

Grey

12:51 AM

haha thank you. You guys are under a monarchy model right? King and Queen? I think I've heard them mention King and Queens before.

King/Prince of Jordan?

concept3d

yah ! and I hate to talk about it

Grey

haha

concept3d

a lot of people don't like it

yet the situation here is soo complicated that any small problem might cause a war

so everybody just accepts it

if you read/watched news about the middle east you will know that everything is a mess right now

@Grey what kind food they got you ? :D

Grey

Dates. Its a surplus. They got me some sort of wrapped sandwhich roll? It's in grape leaves. Not sure if I can recall the name D: Tabolueh(I LOVE IT), Fatoush, and Falafel!

concept3d

oh ya

that thing is great

Grey

1:00 AM

@concept3d yes

omg

; - ; its so good LOL

concept3d

Tabolueh, Fatoush, and Falafel! Are all good

And the thing in the picture I don't know its name in English :D

though I can tell you the name in Arabic :D

Grey

Sure.

@concept3d my real name is Amir =)

Lololololol that should tell u a lot lol

concept3d

lol

Amir is Prince in arabic

Grey

:D

concept3d

but you don't speak arabic ?

or your roots ?

my name is Mohammad btw (found in the about section)

Grey

1:03 AM

I'm OK with Arabic. I wish I was better haha. I'm Muslim so my parents put me in a very Islamic Environment. @concept3d That is a great name :D

concept3d

can you read Arabic ?

Grey

@concept3d Yes

concept3d

@Grey The very Islamic Environment is frowned upon in the US ? or you didn't find problems ?

Grey

@concept3d Nah it's not frowned upon... at least in my area. So no problems :-)

concept3d

well good to know

if you come here anytime you should tell me

I might get to know you

And I don't forget people

@Grey plus if you need any help you can contact me directly at my email found in my website

Grey

1:08 AM

Haha, for sure. Jordan is on my list of places to visit like I said :D

concept3d

btw that dish is called ورق دوالي

Grey

Fitting name :D

concept3d

yes, but far from creative

it has an alternative name though. Like your average digimon

يلنجي

Yalanjy

hasherr

There was a programming language with arabic as it's native language

Did you know that?

concept3d

yes

it's based on C

but it's very hard to write code with

hasherr

1:14 AM

ARLOGO

ARLOGO is the Arabic language Logo Project. It is based on UCBLogo and is an attempt to create the first open-source Arabic programming language. At the moment, UCBLogo Arabic Beta 1 is available only for Microsoft Windows. External links *[http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/arlogo Project web page on Sourceforge]

@concept3d Have you used it before?

concept3d

no. I took a look once.

the problem is

Arabic as a language is Very complicated

we have compound letters

I prefer using english/latin letters anytime for code

I don't want to debug my code to find out that I missed a dot on top of one of the letters

hasherr

Error: Activity class {hasherr.ghosts.android.core/hasherr.ghosts.android.MainActivity} does not exist.

concept3d

those are basic letters

hasherr

Setting up LibGDX on IntelliJ is a gargantuan pain the ass

Alex M.

►

this would be winter clothing show by today's standards

concept3d

1:22 AM

today's non* standards

Alex M.

you can say that again lol

Grey

@hasherr Your making ghosts

hasherr

Secret Project.

Confidentiality Level: Not Grey

concept3d

any ghosts would be better than COD Ghosts

Grey

@hasherr You are excused.

Alex M.

1:25 AM

gamedev.net/page/resources/_/business/business-and-law/…

concept3d

if no one plays your game. It sucks. Deal with it.

Grey

I've followed that certain developer for awhile @AlexM. and his games have really increased in quality

@AlexM. I JUST REALIZED THAT VECTORS REPRESENT DISPLACEMENTS AND RELATIVE POSITIONS.

No srsly. I had the wrong image in my head everytime I thought about them.

Alex M.

actually vectors can be interpreted in many ways

Grey

magnitude,direction,displacement(relative to origin in some cases)

Alex M.

Vector space

A vector space is a mathematical structure formed by a collection of elements called vectors, which may be added together and multiplied ("scaled") by numbers, called scalars in this context. Scalars are often taken to be real numbers, but there are also vector spaces with scalar multiplication by complex numbers, rational numbers, or generally any field. The operations of vector addition and scalar multiplication must satisfy certain requirements, called axioms, listed below. An example of a vector space is that of Euclidean vectors, which may be used to represent physical quantities su...

concept3d

1:30 AM

@Grey How did you think about them

Grey

@concept3d I thought it was a fancy way of saying "Point"

concept3d

well

you mixed the concept of tuple and the concept of vector

Alex M.

tbh, the way I see n-dimensional vectors is a tuple v=(v1,v2,...vn) over which you define relationships and rules

which is closer to "A vector space over a field F is a set V together with two binary operations that satisfy the eight axioms listed below."

concept3d

@Grey the best way to understand vectors is to imagine them

Grey

yep.

@concept3d Concept of Point and Vector

Alex M.

1:36 AM

it's going to be hard to imagine them after the third dimension though

so be sure to read up on that article above

Grey

Point in space is not the equivalent of a Vector in space because a vector does not technically represent a position rather the displacement from whatever known location. From there you calculate it's magnitude and direction.

concept3d

@AlexM. I don't agree, he doesn't need to confuse himself with fancy math definitions

Grey

@AlexM. Can u mathematica markup in the chat

@AlexM. 4D

Lol. I don't even.

Alex M.

@concept3d he won't confuse himself

and even if you supposed he'd confuse himself no matter what

he'd still have to do it in college

then again, you have a point

to do what I suggested, he'd have to start...

Group (mathematics)

In mathematics, a group is a set of elements together with an operation that combines any two of its elements to form a third element also in the set while satisfying four conditions called the group axioms, namely closure, associativity, identity and invertibility. One of the most familiar examples of a group is the set of integers together with the addition operation; the addition of any two integers forms another integer. The abstract formalization of the group axioms, detached as it is from the concrete nature of any particular group and its operation, allows entities with highly div...

here

and build up from there

concept3d

my point is, he should understand basic operations first. Like drawing them, and adding and subtracting geometrically and then comparing results between drawing and numbers

@AlexM. but I partially agree with you. he need to understand it at some point

Alex M.

1:40 AM

shrug

anyway, I gotta sleep, it's 4 am

cya tomorrow

concept3d

4 am here too

c u

hasherr

1:53 AM

Ugh

So whenever I start my LibGDX game it just freezes and crashes on a black screen

I made a game with it yesterday using their site, and that ran fine

But I can't seem to figure out what's wrong with this one

Grey

get on irc

They probs have a channel

hasherr

Where the hell is that

Grey

code.google.com/p/libgdx/wiki/CommunitySupport

"IRC: irc.freenode.net, #libgdx "

and I g2g

Almo

do not mine dogecoins at work

hasherr

Did you?

Almo

2:05 AM

haha no

hasherr

Did somebody?

Almo

probably, but not where I work

hasherr

Do they actually have value?

Matt D

much pointless

many cycles

wow

such worthlessness

Icy Defiance

they have some value

hasherr

2:13 AM

That's what I've heard.

Icy Defiance

/r/dogecoin raised $30k of dogecoins, converted them to jamaican currency, and donated it to the jamaican...bobsled team, I think? for them to go to the olympics.

hasherr

Jamaican Bobsled Team.

Matt D

never let the truth get in the way of a good doge joke

hasherr

Those are truly words I never thought I'd see.

Icy Defiance

dude, there's a kinda-sorta famous movie about Jamaican bobsledders

Matt D

2:14 AM

cool runnings

hasherr

                            wow
                                                                                              such coin
                                                 bobsledz

                      much jamaika
                                                                                         jaimaican' me crazy

@IcyDefiance We watched it in school one year

Icy Defiance

yeah cool runnings

based on a true story

hasherr

They practiced bobsledding by pushing a metal bobsled with wheels up a hill and then riding down

That's pretty much all I remember of it. We watched it when I was like 12.

Alright, got my LibGDX bug fixed. Time to C++.

Almo

DOGE/BTC: 0.00000218

BTC is only worth something if you can manage to sell them, which can be very tricky

I am getting some DOGE just to get some experience with these cryptocurrency systems

they're weird

hasherr

2:30 AM

I hate C++.

Almo

what do you prefer?

just curious

hasherr

C# or Java.

Almo

ok

:)

hasherr

Okay sir, you're all clear.

lol

I'm frustrated with a simple equation in this and according to other sources online, it should work.

Almo

if it's really simple I can take a look

hasherr

2:32 AM

int getNumOfPizzas(int numOfPeople)
{
	return ceil(numOfPeople * 3 / 8);
}

int getLeftovers(int numOfPeople, int numOfPizza)
{
	return ((8 * numOfPizza) - (3 * numOfPeople));
}

You have X amount of people.

Almo

looks like interger math problems

hasherr

Each person eats 3 pieces of pizza.

It is, and it's really simple, but it's wrong on my screen.

Almo

return ceil (numOfPeople * 3.0f / 8.0f);

3 / 8 = 0 I think

3.0f / 8.0f != 0

hasherr

sigh

I always forget that bad integer division is a thing.

Almo

that should create an answer that's a float, then it will convert to int before returning it

get in the habit of always putting .0f on the end, unless you're sure it's ok to be an int :)

hasherr

2:34 AM

Okay, sounds like a plan.

Almo

also, if you're having trouble with something simple like that, break it up

temp = numOfPeople * 3;

val = temp / 8

return val

if you step through that with a debugger, you'll see what's going wrong

hasherr

I'll keep that in mind. A buddy and I are going to approach our teacher tomorrow for an idea for an app.

Our teacher will let us use outside projects for school grades.

cool

@Almo Wise advice

:)

2:37 AM

	int getNumOfPeople();
	int getNumOfPizzas(int);
	int getLeftovers(int, int);

What is it called in C++ when you have to do this in your main() function?

Almo

want ot play some ARAM Todders?

ToddersLegrande

writing a program?

Almo

you don't do that in main function

hasherr

No, these go in your main method

Almo

those are definitions

ToddersLegrande

2:37 AM

oh right

hasherr

What is it called?

ToddersLegrande

a bad idea?

impossible maybe?

been a while since I've done C++

hasherr

Here, look at it in this

ToddersLegrande

@Almo suuuuuuuuuure

hasherr

pastebin.com/VV5uawS2

Almo

2:38 AM

ok

come online and I'll invite you

ToddersLegrande

oh ive probably got to patch this...

Almo

that's not where your definitions go

ToddersLegrande

haven't LoLed since before Christmas

Almo

heh

hasherr

@Almo Where do they go then? Teacher told me they should go on top of my main method.

Almo

2:39 AM

        int getNumOfPeople();
        int getNumOfPizzas(int);
        int getLeftovers(int, int);
void main()
{

ToddersLegrande

I think he meant before

Almo

outside main

main is a function; definitions of functions do not go inside functions

hasherr

Okay

Almo

you patchin todders? I can wait a bit

ToddersLegrande

Yeah says 2 minutes remaining

now 5...

hmm

Better play one without me the timer is all over the place and is averaging around 18 now...

Icy Defiance

2:41 AM

I think you can put function definitions inside other functions in C++, but you get crazy quirks that way, right?

like especially with pointers to functions

Almo

ok I'll play one

will beep you when I'm out

ToddersLegrande

Sounds good

I'm somehow only downloading at 31 KBps

Almo

...

o_0

got the simple pathery today

ToddersLegrande

Yeah I think my modem is dying... time to reset it again!

hasherr

Again!

ToddersLegrande

2:50 AM

Well that didn't help

Speedtest says I'm getting 3.33Mb/s ... still only downloading LoL patch at 25KB/s

Feels like a problem somewhere between me and riot

psssh

Unplugged my wireless card and plugged it back in (USB dongle) and now were sitting at about 500KB/s which is much more like it

hasherr

ToddersLegrande

380MB download... going to be a few minutes on my connection :(

and the speed tanked again... wtf

hasherr

Call your ISP?

Almo

3:08 AM

@ToddersLegrande ok done

ToddersLegrande

@Almo keep going... PC problems lol

I think a reboot may have worked this time

Something was eating up my bandwidth but I'm not sure what

CLEARLY I'm part of a botnet

Almo

how long?

ToddersLegrande

Well since I cancelled in the middle of an update its not "scanning files"

so I dont know

:(

Probably at least 15 minutes considering the size of the download I saw and the speed of my internets

It's alright if we don't make it tonight. I'll be patched for another day

Almo

ok :)

ToddersLegrande

Huh... wonder if my patcher is messed up

Almo

3:19 AM

I don't have a lot of experience fixing the LoL patcher

ToddersLegrande

Seems other people have experienced the exact same issue... most recommend disabling P2P in the patcher settings which doesn't seem to have helped me

Run as admin might have helped... Keeping an eye on it

Last suggestion I've got here is try clearing %temp%

So if this crashes and burns thats next

hasherr

I never got into LoL. I have friends who play it every day, they have tons of fun with it.

ToddersLegrande

I'll play with others but overall meh.

I do it to be social

Also I like a challenge but I can get better challenges elsewhere

But being challenging helps me stay interested and playing with others

hasherr

I don't play a lot of games in general.

If I had more time I definitely would.

twitter.com/terrycavanagh/status/426519957585661952/photo/1

ToddersLegrande

Well running as admin seems to have worked (knock on wood) been downloading at a solid 700KB/s for a while now

Almo

3:32 AM

good

Super Hexagon is BRUTAL

matt and I were talking about our super hexagon scores on facebook. a pal chimed in "what's this?" we said "ipad game" he said cool! 5 minutes later he posted "stupid game"

ToddersLegrande

@hasherr this whole mess drives me nuts

@Almo hahahaha

hasherr

It's ridiculous.

Almo

love the difficulty levels

hasherr

There really needs to be another platform to Youtube.

For gameplayers.

Where their shit won't get flagged.

Almo

hard, harder, hardest, hardester, harderest, hardestest

hasherr

3:37 AM

reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1vz4ar/…

Bahaha

This guy fired a client.

Matt D

3:51 AM

and rightly too

Almo

4:05 AM

was fun

@ToddersLegrande gotta hit the sack

ToddersLegrande

alright later dude

Pip

4:24 AM

back (but gotta go in the next 10 mins to bed :/)

@AlexM. I made an error handler that I can use for testing for errors. Instead of using tons of print statements, I can just go: ErrorHandler.raise_error(whatevererrorhere) and it will put the time and whatever error it is into a file

so many @Noctrine stars

anyhow, gotta go to bed now, goodnight