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9:00 PM
and then just learn how to write in it.
 
why ?
 
Yes.
@concept3d Long story.
 
I think he was asking why the greek alphabet and not why you won't be on your computer
Which if thats a long story... ok then
 
14 secs ago, by ToddersLegrande
Which if thats a long story... ok then
 
Pip
lol
 
9:01 PM
:O
 
I smell
Quoteception
@Noctrine
 
Yes. why greek alphabet ?
 
@MickLH you snooze you loose buddy :P
 
@concept3d A lot of it's letters are used in mathematical formulas.
@concept3d Sigma, Summation Symbol.
I literally did 2 hours worth of drawing sigmas
 
9:02 PM
@ToddersLegrande I wasn't going for that
 
ok, and why you need to write in them ? I learned them by practice
 
I love the way it looks too.
 
GOSH!
 
9:03 PM
@concept3d Handwriting
 
Pip
OMFG
 
SHEESH
 
@Grey part of my signature is lowercase gamma
 
MAYNE.
 
PFFFFFT
 
9:03 PM
@AlexM. Haha nice!
 
Pip
GameDev needs one of these!!!!!!!!
 
@ToddersLegrande SHHHHHHHHHh.........
 
wait wait wait, @ToddersLegrande, we've got an imposter
25 secs ago, by Pip
OMFG
 
@Grey you already write in arabic write ?
 
@MickLH that bastard...
 
9:03 PM
 
@concept3d Yes I can write in arabic. Haha
 
Gamma what?
 
Pip
@ToddersLegrande lol
 
I continue with the rest of an uppercase "M" from the lowercase gamma
 
more languages is never bad
 
9:03 PM
Γ γ
 
Pip
@AlexM. I know what I am going to make for the Jam..... a jam factory Cookie Clicker
 
make Candy Factory Saga
 
@Grey Do you know what Γ(5) is?
 
for the candy jam
 
@MickLH no what is it
 
9:04 PM
@MickLH oooh, euler's thingies or something
 
It's 5! / 5
 
I forgot that shit
 
factorials
 
Gamma function actually
 
ah nu
 
9:05 PM
I just learned them by heart before the exam
and forgot them a week later
 
Γ(x) = (x-1)!
 
Okay I have a website to make >:|
 
so Γ(5) = 4*3*2 = 24
 
Procrastination
I need to leave chat lol. too much distraction
 
I have yet to use any post-high school calculus in my work :\
 
Pip
9:07 PM
@AlexM. catching up!
Pip: 18035 posts (3%)
Alex: 53682 posts (10%)
 
@AlexM. you probably won't
 
calculus in high school in Romania ends with definite integrals
and ofc integration rules
 
unless you go into some image processing or audio processing or geometry analysis
 
Which are all AWESOME FUN
 
yes, great topics. Few work opportunities in them
 
Pip
9:08 PM
@AlexM. already at a third of your posts :D
 
good luck pip
 
Pip
:P
want to work on Tarbeyon? I have 4 hours
 
@Pip let me see your TODO list
 
this is the hardest kind of exercise on Romania's equivalent of SAT for math students in high school
the first one says
 
Pip
@MickLH gotta go open it
 
9:11 PM
for the function f, show that any primitive is strictly increasing on (-1, inf)
the others are obvious - Calculate:
I dunno how to solve the last one
I will probably never be able to without reference
still, the exam was a great success for me
 
That's easier than what we studied at high school
 
I got a 7/10
considering that on the simulation, a month before, I got 1.2/10
 
but to be honest I find it OK, not to have very complex math at high school
alot of the students just don't want or need that
 
that's why in Romania we have separate groups in high school
a group is studying maths and programming
another is studying literature (and only does math until halfway through hs)
another is studying biology or physics
and so on
 
that's a good system
 
9:15 PM
yeah, and we're pretty hardcore with the programming bit
in some cities, they teach hardcore programming in elementary
 
I learned programming while at university
 
at the national olympiad there are subjects for kids in grades 5-8
so it's not uncommon to go to the olympiad
and see a 12 yr old prove he knows A* in C++ better than you
and can get that problem solved correctly within the execution time and memory constraints
 
and you feel bad about yourself/myself
 
finally
 
9:17 PM
not that much tho
 
and you didn't have to ping me
 
it's just that some people are really good at algorithms
and others are good at making software that works
I'm in the 2nd category
the first is too hardcore for me
 
and some at both
 
hey, maybe, dunno
 
9:18 PM
Making software that works is an artistic process
 
I'm not sure theoretical CS leaves that much space for becoming perfect at making software that works
and when you go algorithms
 
actually it doesn't really matter
 
you go algorithms forever
 
I didn't study CS
 
even if you do get hired by someone like Google
you probably get hired to do hardcore algorithmics
 
9:19 PM
no
my friend at college
is now at Google
 
not web development
 
he is a really smart guy
works on the google earth engine
 
@concept3d that don't mean jack man
I'm talking about world champions at IOI
your friend is null compared to those who get gold
 
Pip
@AlexM. when you are finished talking with concept3D, do you want to work on Tarbeyon?
 
especially if they're very young
 
9:20 PM
ok, didn't say he was better
 
@Pip I have to study for the db exam
 
Pip
awww
k
 
it's a lot more theory than I expected
 
Pip
mhmm
 
I was going to say, that he do algorithms at Google but like only 30% of work
 
9:22 PM
if I knew how to do algorithms like the IOI guys, I'd try to get a job in a research division at a large company
I bet that pays like crazy
 
Pip
@sm4 how's the game going?
 
math skills count too
 
Pip
@MickLH wanna help, since Alex can't?
 
you can't really theoretical CS without math
 
@Pip I'm a consultant try to work with me :P
 
9:24 PM
one of our best guys (who also got gold at IOI) died of cancer at the age of 26 or something :(
shit man cancer sucks
 
Pip
@MickLH :P
 
I wonder if someone knows the cure but won't share it because it's a lot more profitable for the industry to sell useless treatment that just keeps you alive a bit longer
 
lol duhhhh (I wish we were being sarcastic)
 
do I need to use tags
 
Pip
Design Document:
Target Platform(s):
Windows, Linux

Overall mechanics:
Sort of a Terraria-esque sandbox/adventure game, with one big catch: Every time a world is closed, or the game is closed, the world is deleted (the player is consistent).
there @MickLH :P
(not done, but a start)
 
Pip
9:45 PM
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it is going to be a tile-based rpg, sort of Terraria-like, but it has some specific rules. Worlds will get progressively harder and have better resources, but you can only stay on a world for a single session. When you exit the game or make a new world, the world file will be deleted, but you will keep your inventory throughout.
THAT is quoteception
 
okay
 
Pip
:D
 
Does anyone have any good tutorials on creating custom wordpress themes?
 
Pip
nopes
 
@Pip you should make a box hidden in every single map that does save so people can have some hope of keeping non-inventory items
And have it spawn randomly anywhere in the map, every new map, just with the stuff from before inside it
 
9:47 PM
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Q: Is God out of bounds for a game enemy?

therapistgames.co.ukWhen we created Nature Hater, our goal was to flip the player understanding of hero and enemy. So we made the player character a complete git and the end boss is God. Some people are fixated on the fact you get to throw bricks at God, some get fixated on the fact you are killing cute animals. I...

His username.
His question.
Need I say more.
 
8 secs ago, by mmyers
@Pip You know, you can edit your posts to quote yourself
 
Pip
@MickLH that is...... awesome
1 min ago, by mmyers
8 secs ago, by mmyers
@Pip You know, you can edit your posts to quote yourself
dangit
there
 
it was not opinion based
it had a good answer, and I was going to write it down
 
Pip
@AlexM. what?
 
the question grey posted
and byte closed
 
Pip
9:50 PM
ah
 
@AlexM. vote for reopen
 
@AlexM. It is
 
Pip
@AlexM. did I ever show you a pic of my dog?
 
or post your answer as a comment
 
it's religion. @AlexM. It's opinionated.
 
9:51 PM
religion was not the question
 
it is also moralistic.
 
I'd call that psychology
 
Is there a limit to how 'art' a game can be before regular people cease to 'get it'?
this was the question
 
Yeah
that's opinionated too
 
no it's not
 
9:52 PM
@AlexM. If only god were here to give a symbolic answer in terms of a persons existence value
 
@AlexM. Lol.
@AlexM. So theres a cure all answer for someones level of tolerance / understanding?
 
Pip
 
Actually after re-reading the question I think it was a good question
 
"There is no limit because people react to specific kinds of art differently. Trying to reach everyone equally with art is the same as trying to reach everyone with any other kind of product: deemed to fail. Choose a demographic and build for that."
 
Pip
here is one of my dogs, Sunshine (my little brother's)
here is the other (my dog, Sable)
here is them together (they are siblings)
 
9:54 PM
"Some people are fixated on the fact you get to throw bricks at God, some get fixated on the fact you are killing cute animals."
 
Pip
lol
 
Sorry.
 
that's too localized and has to be removed
I wish you stopped being so ignorant Grey
then you'd also stop looking stupid
 
Pip
yeah @Grey
 
Bahaha.
 
9:54 PM
@Grey There's a cure-all solution for x + x bro, it's 2x
 
@Pip What is with you posting your pictures of your dogz.
 
Pip
I am petting her atm
 
@AlexM. Ignorance?
@Pip Doesn't answer question.
 
Pip
I wanted people to virtually pet them
 
@AlexM. Not respecting others opinions and listening to what they have to say is ignorance.
 
9:56 PM
your opinion is not backed by anything mate
I'm sorry but I cannot respect an unbacked opinion as long as I give a backed one
especially since they're contradictory
 
@AlexM. And what is yours backed with? Your experience? Other's experience?
 
common sense? I explained my answer above
"What kind of art do people like?" is an opinion based question
the one above isn't
 
@Grey the point he is making is that you can answer that question with an algorithm
 
lol
Let me put this another way @AlexM.
 
I'm listening
 
9:59 PM
There's the opinionated part, but you can symbolically manipulate the system of logic around it
 
"Is there a limit to how 'art' a game can be before regular people cease to 'get it'?"
I really can't see any room for opinions here
if you really want to be picky, the short answer is "No."
 

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