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fahadsadah

21:00

What about youngest?

Bart Silverstrim

Hmm...not too many want to be the youngest in the crowd.

fahadsadah

and yeah, I think my dad was joking or something when he named me

Bart Silverstrim

They tend to get the crappiest chores.

fahadsadah

Being the youngest in technical crowds is something I've ceased to notice

Bart Silverstrim

Did you type joking or choking?

fahadsadah

21:01

I'm watching a few technical community chats as we speak, and I can see almost no correlation between (intelligence|ability) and age

Bart Silverstrim

No, but there is a difference in outlook (often) when one gains experience.

Holocryptic

Often, but not always. You have people like @Zypher who behave like a two year old on crack

Bart Silverstrim

The younger ones usually think they have the perfect answers, don't see why their way can't be done, and why all the older, experienced ones facepalm at their exuberance.

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fahadsadah

I do agree with you there

Ben Pilbrow

@BartSilverstrim heh, I used to be like that

SpacemanSpiff

21:03

@BartSilverstrim Yeah... I've met younger versions of myself.

Ben Pilbrow

Thankfully I lost it after a few months

fahadsadah

but at the same time, I think older people shouldn't be too afraid of adopting new things

Bart Silverstrim

To be fair, @Zypher tends to not be alone in that when it comes to bewbs.

Holocryptic

True, but then you get old fogeys who overlook the plain and simple answers given by a younger person simply because they're young and "don't understand". And then promptly eff it royally up

Bart Silverstrim

Aaand here it comes :-)

Another bonus to experience...dude, most of the new things, aren't new.

SpacemanSpiff

21:04

@fahadsadah A good example is wanting to embrace some new technology or technique, but not estimating the management/overhead/bullshit and time it will consume to manage. Happens every, freakin, day.

Bart Silverstrim

(I'll take virtualization for a thousand, Alex...)

fahadsadah

Yup

Younger sysadmins I know tend to have the "I just made the bash script to fix that" attitude

SpacemanSpiff

A wise Honda motorcycle mechanic once told me: If you're trying really hard and getting nowhere, you're either using the wrong tool or technique, and someone or something is about to break and cost a lot of money.

fahadsadah

and older ones "This product will fix that"

SpacemanSpiff

It nicely resonates into other areas.

Holocryptic

21:08

@DanBig You lie! You say you're leaving, then I catch you editing answers!!!

fahadsadah

@Holocryptic How old's Jacob, btw?

Holocryptic

15

voretaq7

@fahadsadah @SpacemanSpiff or when you get the bill for recharging the system...

Holocryptic

@BartSilverstrim You know, I kind of like how "bewbs" just rolls off the tongue

SpacemanSpiff

hahaha, yeah

fahadsadah

21:10

I'm 15 too.

1996-03-05

Bart Silverstrim

@Holo: in more ways than one, my friend.

Holocryptic

@fahadsadah yeah, I saw your profile. I don't know his birthday, but he'll quiz you just to make sure

fahadsadah

:p

Holocryptic

@BartSilverstrim Oh, I know, my friend. I know.

SpacemanSpiff

You're in good company for a 15 year old, as long as you're not lazy, you'll probably glean a TON of information off the people here.

Bart Silverstrim

21:11

Change the profile to 12. And for school put something like "Yale" and say your nickname is Doogie Howser.

Holocryptic

Either that, or become one corrupted SOB

Bart Silverstrim

Can't be both?

Must induct him into the Friday tradition...hee hee...

Ben Pilbrow

@SpacemanSpiff on the main site that probably holds true. Here in the chat room though, you'll learn a lot more about bewbs

Holocryptic

Could be both. They're not mutually exclusive.

SpacemanSpiff

@BenPilbrow Bewbs are good.

You know come to think about it, has a female ever been in this chatroom?

Holocryptic

21:12

Bewbs are grrrreat!

Yes they have @SpacemanSpiff. In the dead of night.

Ben Pilbrow

@SpacemanSpiff several in fact. They never stuck around for too long though :/

SpacemanSpiff

I'd imagine the leghumping would begin so quickly it would be measured in milliseconds

Holocryptic

Look at the transcript from like a day ago or so

fahadsadah

I wonder why, @BenPilbrow, what with all the talk of boobs?

Ben Pilbrow

awwww I popped my star limit virginity :'(

Holocryptic

21:13

Na, the only one here was.... hmmmm.... @coredump. They chatted for a bit

@BenPilbrow :: High Five ::

Bart Silverstrim

Figures the brazilian would be here when a fefefefefemale appeared. Doesn't he have enough girls down there in brazilia?

fahadsadah

It's quite well established that asking for help on IRC with a female name gets you answers much quick than a male name

SpacemanSpiff

I'm headed to a Brazilian steakhouse tomorrow :D

The hostess there is so f'ing hot... Anna :)

Holocryptic

@SpacemanSpiff /jealous

Bart Silverstrim

@Space: pics or we don't believe you.

SpacemanSpiff

21:17

This, I will provide.

Also have to make my way back to the Tilted Kilt and get a few pictures

Holocryptic

@SpacemanSpiff You'll be my new friend for up to a day.

Zypher

@BartSilverstrim That'll get you autobanned from the site ;)

Bart Silverstrim

Pictures of a waitress?

Zypher

setting your profile to 12

Bart Silverstrim

Every time we travel somewhere with a Hooters I make a point of getting a picture of our waitress with my son.

Setting your profile to 12 gets you banned but 15 works? I didn't know that.

@fahadsadah needs to set it to 14.75 years old.

Zypher

21:20

yea, COPA

Child Online Protection Act

The Child Online Protection Act (COPA) was a law in the United States of America, passed in 1998 with the declared purpose of restricting access by minors to any material defined as harmful to such minors on the Internet. The law, however, never took effect, as three separate rounds of litigation led to a permanent injunction against the law in 2009. The law was part of a series of efforts by US lawmakers legislating over Internet pornography. Parts of the earlier and much broader Communications Decency Act had been struck down as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1997 (Reno v. AC...

Magic number 13

Holocryptic

facepalm

SpacemanSpiff

That's awesome

Bart Silverstrim

yet another stupid law.

Holocryptic

We were just talking about those

fahadsadah

COPPA is annoying as fuck

Bart Silverstrim

21:21

stupid laws, cute waitresses, or bewbs?

Zypher

@Holocryptic by just you mean 8 hours ago right? Before the boobs

Holocryptic

@BartSilverstrim Yes

Bart Silverstrim

@Fahadsadah: don't swear, young man.

Little bastards going around cussing in front of us...sheesh.

Holocryptic

@Zypher was it 8 hours ago? Huh, time flies when you're talking about boobs.

For serious

Zypher

haha yea ... you guys where on a political bent when i stumbled into the office

round 10 or so

Bart Silverstrim

21:23

Uh oh...@holo just gave me an idea.

fahadsadah

@BartSilverstrim Sorry, this place seemed pretty informal

Holocryptic

I'm usually good for those

Zypher

then i joined chat

@fahadsadah no no it is VERY informal

fahadsadah

So sexism is okay, but swearing isn't?

Zypher

fucking right

Holocryptic

21:23

@BartSilverstrim Fucking great. You just broke @fahadsadah

fahadsadah

broke?

Bart Silverstrim

@Holo: you get a virtual award. You just made me laugh.

@Holo: just keying "flying boobs" into google images to see what appears.

Holocryptic

I try

Zypher

@fahadsadah @BartSilverstrim was bein facetious

fahadsadah

I know, I just didn't get it

Holocryptic

21:25

@BartSilverstrim Fuck me that's a lot of boobs in one place!

Joe Philllips

@SpacemanSpiff Is spacemanspiff a common name or are you the one from mws/era?

Holocryptic

And they all managed to get past my webfilter somehow

Bart Silverstrim

Very. Very. Weird.

This is why I love Google. Just when life was weird enough, the boundary stretches a little farther.

Zypher

armeniadiaspora.com/humor/…

^^ damn repression

fahadsadah

@Holocryptic Surely unlimited boobs at work is an advantage of being a sysadmin (and thus administering the webfilter?)

Ben Pilbrow

21:28

@BartSilverstrim Yeah..... I'm not posting any of the pictures I get after typing that into google. I don't fancy being banned (although if the reason were public, it would probably be hilarious).

SpacemanSpiff

@JoePhilllips Not sure what MWS is ?

Ben Pilbrow

This is probably the safest one I got...

SpacemanSpiff

Just named after my favorite Calvin and Hobbes persona, is all

My cast iron skillet is now perfectly seasoned :D

Holocryptic

@fahadsadah True, but one must keep up appearances to maintain good working relations (and a job)

Bart Silverstrim

/tries to decide if that was intentional from @benpilbrow...

Zypher

21:29

Ben Pilbrow

Ugh not showing. This one

fahadsadah

@Holocryptic of course

Many sysadmins have offices pretty much like cupboards, though

Not much need for that human interaction stuff

whatever it is

Holocryptic

@fahadsadah Nope. Mine's pretty much a fishbowl.

Can't. Stop. Staring.

Ben Pilbrow

Open plan office FTW :-)

Joe Philllips

NSFW would be nice :)

would be really nice if I could hide images on my screen too

Zypher

21:31

haha .. yea we have trouble keeping it SFW

Bart Silverstrim

if her nose touches the wall first...

Ben Pilbrow

@JoePhilllips common
practice
is
to
do
this
for

a

while

til it

goes

off screen

Holocryptic

@Zypher
is
kind
of
a
raging
alcoholic
who
plays
by
his
own
rules

Bart Silverstrim

@BenPilbrow: well, that was laugh number two...

To be clear, was the teen jailed specifically because it was Kim Kardashian?

Joe Philllips

Wow nice work

Bart Silverstrim

21:33

:-)

Ben Pilbrow

@JoePhilllips remember that trick for when the next eeeejit posts the Rebecca Black video/pictures

Bart Silverstrim

Apparently the bewb-missiles were in a Japanese version of Tranzor Z. It was cut out of American versions.

Holocryptic

But @Zypher does put up some damn fine pictures though, I'll give him that!

Joe Philllips

RB has pics? What could they possibly be of? School bus?

Ben Pilbrow

Often her leftie and her rightie

Zypher

21:35

@Holocryptic I'd say it's closer to still trying to live like i was in college

Holocryptic

haha

Zypher

@JoePhilllips you've done it now

Bart Silverstrim

I really don't get it. How is it that Japan can have such awesome cartoons, yet most of their erotica is censored? I really should have taken Japanese in high school.

Zypher

at least @WesleyDavid isn't here

Bart Silverstrim

...RB has pictures?

Holocryptic

21:36

weasley?

Bart Silverstrim

...of...fried eggs?

Holocryptic

Ah.....damn...here we go

fahadsadah

best euphemism ever

Ben Pilbrow

@BartSilverstrim it's the two dancing on the car I affectionately refer to as the crackheads :P

Bart Silverstrim

I love the Internets. "The robot was created by Dr. Yumi (Dr. Kabuto's apprentice) and since it was originally built for peaceful uses at first it didn't feature any weapons; eventually it acquires the ability to fire missiles from its chest, this was called the Oppai Missile System (Oppai is a Japanese slang term for breasts). Aphrodite was the first female mecha to have this kind of weapon."

@BenPilbrow: did you see the video from the "girl in pink"?

Ben Pilbrow

21:37

@BartSilverstrim I'm not sure I did. I may regret this... but go on, what's the link

Zypher

Bart Silverstrim

Um...no, Zypher. Bad zypher.

Zypher

Michele Myers?

Holocryptic

It looks like Jason's abused ex-girlfriend or something.

Bart Silverstrim

"In one of the most memorable chapters, her infamous breast missiles win Mazinger a battle, when Mazinger (not yet able to fly, as its Jet Scrander upgrade had not yet been built) was unable to destroy the aerial monster Gelbros J3."

"Sayaka was infuriated when she discovered her robot had, without her consent, been equipped with supersized breast missiles that totally ruined the elegant lines of Aphrodite. Kouji used these modified missiles to give Mazinger Z enough thrust to fly, and forced the enemy to land. (See External Links for footage). In one of Nagai's later works, Kotetsu Jeeg, a similar technique was reused and was actually the titular robot's sole means of flight."

Hang on @BenP

Holocryptic

21:39

"titular"

You guys are such a bad influence

Bart Silverstrim

►

For @BenPilbrow

Holocryptic

Sometimes I'm glad I have a webfilter and no working speakers. It allows me avoid random Youtube links from @BartSilverstrim

Bart Silverstrim

That one wasn't random! He asked.

Actually it wasn't a bad video. For someone that age, I thought she handled all of that rather well.

Joe Philllips

What's the video summary? I have YT blocked

Holocryptic

As long as I'm not Rebrolled, we're good.

Bart Silverstrim

21:42

She's Benni Cinkle. She's answering questions about the video from people.

Who are the people in it, who is she, etc...she then (if you look at her other videos posted) does a charity flash mob in a mall dancing to Friday and does a contest for a music video.

Joe Philllips

haha. Oh, that "girl in pink"

Bart Silverstrim

Yes, young, does the stupid "um" and "like" thing with speech, but overall considering the vitriol aimed at RB and her video I thought she handled herself really well for her age.

Ben Pilbrow

@BartSilverstrim ha lol. She didn't reveal whether she was a) bulimic or b) on crack, but meh :P

Bart Silverstrim

No, she didn't mention that. But at that age, I think stupidity is a drug itself.

Ben Pilbrow

Even at 22 I still get a bit drunk on stupidity

Bart Silverstrim

21:47

But you have to admire that she talks about how people have altered clips of her from the video and she likes the squeezebox image. Most girls that age would have crawled under a rock. They made fun of her, and she laughed with them.

Holocryptic

@BartSilverstrim You're...trying....to....get....me...to....empathize...with...Rebecca...Black.....Must resist!!

Ben Pilbrow

Yeah definitely. It's always a good quality when someone can laugh at themself

Bart Silverstrim

I think it was actually quite smart of RB and Cinkle here. Before it was fun to laugh at them for the stupid video. Okay, the video lyrics do suck still, but they didn't hide it and instead weathered the insults and while the video is still funny to me, I don't think they personally deserve ridicule. The video was dumb, but they handled it well (and kind of humanized themselves instead of being anonymous, so it's harder to not see them as people.)

You even have 13 year old Benni doing a charity flash mob. Not a lot of kids would do that. Most kids seem to be like the nice delinquents we have who just finished ruining a MacBook keyboard by spelling "DICK" on the home row.

Holocryptic

@BartSilverstrim I love when they pull crap like that.

Bart Silverstrim

The students loved it when I said the teacher needs to lock the notebooks down for accountability.

They no longer left her room and have to be tracked as to who has them when. I think she assigned them to certain students now too.

Holocryptic

21:51

awww, yeah. Layin down the law!

Bart Silverstrim

I guess the kids spent the rest of the day bitching about it.

Hells yeah!

fahadsadah

@BartSilverstrim I assume you're in the USA?

Bart Silverstrim

She got really strict with it...sent out emails to other teachers in her area/department saying the teachers can sign them out of the room, but they're responsible for them. Students, no.

SpacemanSpiff

I'm doing a NDS to AD migration for a school district in Wisconsin

Bart Silverstrim

@fahadsadah: yes.

SpacemanSpiff

21:53

It blows me away with their overuse and insistence on technology

Bart Silverstrim

...NDS is still in use?

SpacemanSpiff

and I also know why they can't afford to pay their teachers

Bart Silverstrim

They keep trying to jump the gun.

fahadsadah

@BartSilverstrim Does your city/county/state/whatever impose any requirements on what hardware/software you can buy?

Bart Silverstrim

And they don't see what needs to actually be used in the proper way.

@fahadsadah: what do you mean?

Holocryptic

21:53

Ok, the first hit for NDS is Nintendo DS. What is it?

Bart Silverstrim

We have like anything else that's bought guidelines on how certain items are purchased. But not really.

NDS I assume is netware directory services.

fahadsadah

In the UK, for example, a government body (I'd guess at bribery going on here) insists that all schools use a certain MIS for registering students

Bart Silverstrim

Used to be THE name in enterprise system management. Much of AD had its design guided by NDS.

fahadsadah

and a certain two vendors for computers and laptops

And a certain rebranded AD solution for the network overall

Holocryptic

I just found an article from 01 Apr 1993 on it. Yikes.

Bart Silverstrim

21:55

Ah. No, we're not required to just use Dell or HP or anything like that.

SpacemanSpiff

Yes indeed, I'm talking about Novell.

Bart Silverstrim

The NDS client for Windows was an effing nightmare.

SpacemanSpiff

The overkill of hardware we're putting in for a "school district" blows me away

Bart Silverstrim

Seemed like every @#% network issue we had was solved by removing or updating the client.

fahadsadah

The UK rebranded AD stuff (RM EasyLink) is terrible

Jim B

21:55

NDS for windows still is an effing nightmare!

fahadsadah

Bad things: a) it makes it possible for dummies to do systems administration

SpacemanSpiff

two EX8208 Juniper switches, 60TB of Dell storage, an M1000e with 11 blades

Bart Silverstrim

Ah, we have no problem with overkill of hardware. We have labs that use 6 year old hardware. Some older.

fahadsadah

b) Group Policy is the main thing providing "security"

Bart Silverstrim

@fahadsadah: You're talking AD?

Holocryptic

21:56

@BartSilverstrim We have some of our desktops catching on fire they're so old and overused. Good stuff.

SpacemanSpiff

I'd replace providing with implementing :)

fahadsadah

Images, deployed to servers and clients

Based on Windows + AD + GP

Bart Silverstrim

Dude...if you think AD allows dummies to do admin work...you must really think AD simplifies things.

fahadsadah

The MMC snapin it comes with allows dummies to do admin work

Jim B

compared to the issues with NDS - AD is the "easy" way

SpacemanSpiff

21:57

well the definition of "admin work" is probably the clerical tasks then

fahadsadah

Yeah

Fixing stuff is pretty much "Call RM"

Bart Silverstrim

Um...okay, you can train a monkey to do specific things with AD snapins, but...no, it's not simple overall.

RM?

fahadsadah

The vendor

SpacemanSpiff

I've inherited a bunch of seriously FUBAR AD environments :)

Bart Silverstrim

Ah.

fahadsadah

21:58

They rape the government for a lot of money developing software for schools

Then, on top of that, charge the schools for the software

SpacemanSpiff

The best is when someone has attempted to manually extend the schema with no basic knowledge... cuz that always ends well.

Bart Silverstrim

Yes, AD is very easy to fubar...and worse, it'll look like it's working, right up until everything explodes.

fahadsadah

Raping the taxpayer twice

Holocryptic

@SpacemanSpiff Effing sweet!

Jim B

If the answer is call the vendor why would you consider it allowing dummies to manage it? I'm confused. Also why is the school paying for MS software (they should be paying very little)

SpacemanSpiff

21:59

I once got a bad LDIF file from Apple which totally borked a ton of classes and attributes

Bart Silverstrim

You look at the logs and wonder, "What the...?" That's never a good sign.

SpacemanSpiff

Had to back that bastard out manually .... grrr

fahadsadah

They pay for RM's crap on top

When something unusual happens, they call RM

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