The Comms Room

And two hours of tinkering with this dumb ASA I found the two stupid mistakes I was making... First, forgetting which interfaces the ping utility defaults to (the wrong interface in my case) and second forgetting the allow firewall rule to get traffic across the link... sigh

coredump

bbl, time to watch stuff

Bart Silverstrim

If I discovered a cylon I'd...well...is it a skinjob cylon? And a she?

Chris S

@BartSilverstrim I got one on my FreeBSD box once where is showed Windows Explorer's My Computer, with little virus warnings for the C: drive and My Documents. Just makes me smile.

Bart Silverstrim

The best part of switching to a Mac: it's so blatantly obvious when malware authors are trolling Windows users.

@ChrisS: it would have made me smile but it had something in the script that made my FireFox window turn into a @#% postage stamp until I resized it, wondering what the hell had just happened.

Chris S

Well half the time the displays aren't even accurate for Windows... but if you don't know better it's somewhat close.

Bart Silverstrim

12:34 AM

Have to admit though, I don't know what link/window did that.

Chris S

Someone at work got a XP style (webpage) showing some dialog; we're running Win7... The user called me and mentioned how the screen looked "different" from normal screens.

Bart Silverstrim

Usually I don't stumble into those traps. Probably the talk of those D&D die earlier.

Anyone here have an iPhone?

Chris S

I liked Glee better in the first season when they pretty much stuck to songs I at least like, and several that are really good.

@BartSilverstrim I refuse.

Bart Silverstrim

Oh, yeah, you're one of those...droid...people.

Anyone else?

@Chopper?

Chris S

We've been switching everyone at work; I'm one of the few without a company phone though, mine's currently a Win Mobile 6.0 that I hate, next will be an Android though.

Holocryptic

12:37 AM

I broke down and bought an iPod a while ago. I still haven't been able to scrub the taint off in the shower

Bart Silverstrim

New app to play with. Photosynth. Try it out if you like picture-taking on it.

Chris S

I do have an iPod Nano, first gen.

Bart Silverstrim

It stitches images together into panorama shots.

And it's from Microsoft.

And if I heard right it's not available on windows mobile :-p

Maybe @Chopper3 would like to play with it if everyone else here is a iOS hater.

Chris S

I love the pre-iTouch pods, work great, well except the first few generations that Apple wishes never existed; and they work with Rythmbox flawlessly.

I'm still buying music from ITMS, can't beat the AAC quality (Amazon would be a serious competitor if they'd up their MP3 collection to AAC).

Bart Silverstrim

shrug I used to have an iPod touch first gen. Have iPhone/Verizon now. Would not switch to another platform. Wife had a Moto Droid. I hated it.

Support Windows all day at work. Workstation at office is Linux. Use MacBook Pro at home. Saved my sanity.

Had DirecTV. Upped rates. Dropped them. Bought AppleTV gen 2. Works fine for us.

Use iPhone 4/Verizon + AppleTV + MacBook with iTunes. Happy camper.

Scott Pack

12:43 AM

@coredump While I won't discuss Tolkien with the wife, we do watch a lot of nerd/scifi shows together. I find that acceptable.

Bart Silverstrim

theonion.com/video/…

Holocryptic

"Kinkos.... What are we, homeless?"

Bart Silverstrim

Holocryptic

Shit. That's me on end user support calls

Cody Harlow

le original

Bart Silverstrim

12:58 AM

hmm...any taryn southern fans? I think my mind is stuck on women at the moment.

Boobs. Apple. Tech support. Boobs. My mind is sharp as a...she's cute...

Oh, and the russian performer on a kids's show. </sits transfixed...>

Holocryptic

@BartSilverstrim That about sums up my day to day, minus the apple part

Bart Silverstrim

Is it sad when your day gets summed up in something that sounds like it's from bash.org?

Holocryptic

@BartSilverstrim no?

Bart Silverstrim

Just making sure.

Holocryptic

gonna play the new Assissin's Creed now. BBL

coredump

2:41 AM

what's Assissin's Creed...

Cody Harlow

It's a new game about how ass is sin.

So I've been told anyway.

@Melanie your picture scares me.

Melanie

Lol, sorry about that.

:( No edits on Pro Webmasters, queue is full. Makes me sad because I want to submit a bunch of tags/edits/etc. :P

coredump

2:58 AM

omg it's a woman

let me check hell's temperature

Melanie

Lol

Cody Harlow

feeling tired? no fear, I shall wake you up

jesus cody

yes?

Is this a parody of the Rebecca Black song?

Cody Harlow

3:10 AM

Nope, it's just a song that someone did.

Melanie

Oh yeah, durr.. this is older. Wow.

Cody Harlow

It wakes me up every morning.

Melanie

"Ha ha ha" @ 2:24 is hilarious.

Cody Harlow

oh...you made it that far in

Melanie

Damn that girl has a lot of friends.

Cody Harlow

3:13 AM

And they let 12 year olds drive.

And every teenage music video must have a random black guy start rapping in it.

Melanie

I just don't understand how these people have kids "drive" in music videos. Doesn't the filming crew ever think "This is so unnatural."

Cody Harlow

I think as long as they get paid they don't care what happens in the video.

"What? you want her flying an airplane? Can do!"

Melanie

Checklist for teeny video:
Lots of friends
Underage driving
No parents
Random Black Guy

Well, you have 10 years olds doing air traffic control in the song "Rosa Helikopter"

Cody Harlow

forgot one, use autotune.

Melanie

Oh yeah

Cody Harlow

3:17 AM

Oh and super rich parents to pay for it.

Melanie

Yeah, although whatever Rebecca Black's mom paid, it wasn't too bad... like 2k or something. That's like sending your kid on a class trip or something, but not as wise of an investment, imo.

Cody Harlow

She make around $28000 but donated it all.

which is good. She only got lucky because she can't sing.

Melanie

Maybe I'm bitter because I have a terrible singing voice, but I just don't understand people who promote their children's interest in being a singer/actress.

Cody Harlow

They should be promote computers not acting/singing skills.

Melanie

Kids want to be doctors, nurses, teachers, movie stars, firemen, police officers when they grow up.

Cody Harlow

3:21 AM

and sysadmins in my case.

Melanie

despair.com/potential.html

I suppose uploading it would be more constructive.

Cody Harlow

If I wasn't rocking this wallpaper and it was bigger I'd have that.

Melanie

Ouch, that doesn't hurt your eyes?

Cody Harlow

Kind of. But I don't see my desktop much.

And it's such a good motto.

Melanie

True

Cody Harlow

3:24 AM

and people like it a lot more then my Bug Bunny Debian one.

Melanie

Yeah?

coredump

I like my "I accept no feedback" water bottle.

Cody Harlow

I'm looking for it righ tnow

can't find it. anyway it said "The way I run this thing you'd think I know something about it" and had the debian logo in stars.

coredump

lolz

I like wallbase for wallpapers

but right now the Doctor Who ones are taking all my spaces.

Melanie

Idk what wallbase is. :S

Cody Harlow

3:31 AM

wallbase.cc

it's very nice.

Melanie

I'm pretty lame, I usually just set my desktop to a plain teal.

I'm not sure why, just reminds me of my first computer I guess. Win 3.1 ftw

Not really ftw. But I was like 9 or 10 so I had no choice.

Cody Harlow

Most people I know are using this right now

Melanie

I <3 Portal

Cody Harlow

For Portal 2 awesomeness.

Melanie

Almost have played it through, but I didn't want to finish the game too quickly.

Cody Harlow

3:36 AM

I haven't got it yet. I timed games wrong as I bought Just Cause 2 last week.

coredump

I am almost all my time on Linux those days, so no time to get Portal yet

Cody Harlow

I only have Portal because I got it when it was free.

Melanie

Yeah, I was pretty miffed when I found out that the whole "Steam is coming out on Linux" thing was a myth/hoax.

coredump

yeahhh me too :(

Cody Harlow

It runs well on Wine doesn't it?

Melanie

3:40 AM

I have never really had luck with games on Wine.

Cody Harlow

I've only tried Civ 4

and Civ 5.

Both ran pretty well

coredump

I don't know about portal

hobodave

oh shit I forgot to bring portal 2 home

:(

I was in such a rush to leave work

Melanie

Eek, shame.

You are missing out. Not knowing about Portal is like not knowing about Star Trek...

... or Firefly.

hobodave

Firefly was a pretty terrible show

Melanie

3:44 AM

store.steampowered.com/app/400

Firefly was awesome

hobodave

It was watchable

I watched all of it on Netflix

Melanie

There's some info on Portal for you.

hobodave

so I guess terrible was too strong of a word

Melanie

I just bootlegged it. :\

hobodave

but I never got into that dude's stuff

josh weese or soemthing

Melanie

3:44 AM

I don't know his other stuff.

hobodave

buffy

Melanie

Oh

LOl

hobodave

and the other one that's similar

Melanie

Joss Whedon

hobodave

yes him

Melanie

3:45 AM

Never seen Buffy.

hobodave

since when do we let girls in here btw?

this place is usually like a boy's locker room 18 hrs a day

Melanie

:(

hobodave

I guess we can behave

:)

@CodyHarlow wow worst thing ever

@Melanie so Portal 2 is good?

Melanie

Yeah, I like it a lot.

hobodave

Is it longer than the first one?

coredump

3:58 AM

longer and harder

3

and I still talking about portal

Melanie

Nah, I think it's easier than the first.

hobodave

@coredump great star-bait

I can imagine they'd make it easier

Melanie

Although one feature that presents a challenge is that in the second one, the chambers aren't as sterile (plants, broken things, etc) so it makes it harder to spot the obvious routes

hobodave

Portal was kind of an inside joke for hardcore gamers

Portal 2 they want to market to everyone

Melanie

I was a little disappointed in a lot of the jokes. I didn't find them as funny.

hobodave

4:03 AM

I'm almost tempted to drive to work and pick it up

Melanie

Like they tried a little too hard. But that's a problem with a lot of sequels. However, it wasn't devoid of hilarious elements.

I'd say not to, but damn it's a good game.

hobodave

yea I'm not, it's a 35 min drive

and I need to be in bed in 50 mins

Melanie

Eek

There's always tomorrow.

hobodave

true, plus it's my rest day so I have all night to game

I didn't even finish the last game I played it was such a disappointment

coredump

last game I tried was DA2

and I stopped at the middle

hobodave

4:10 AM

same @coredump

I think I've decided to just never buy another EA game

I'm almost ready to swear off AAA titles all together

they've been just a string of expensive disappointments

$5 for angry birds and I was in heaven for months

maybe I'm showing my age

everyone at my office plays angry birds

Melanie

What age is the average Angry Birds player?

hobodave

I dunno, it probably spans all ages

but noone at my office is a "gamer"

and everyone is over 40

and they all play it

Melanie

Lol

hobodave

I'm 30 :(

Melanie

Yeah, I was at the gym playing Angry Birds waiting for a friend and this guy is across from me and he says "That sounds like angry birds" He was in his 40s. I was like wtf.

hobodave

4:17 AM

haha

Melanie

I'm 26.

hobodave

what gym do you go to?

Melanie

Oh I don't go to the gym. I was just there in the lobby waiting for a friend.

hobodave

ah

coredump

I am 32, and I am losing momentum with games too

hobodave

4:19 AM

so you go to the gym to play video games :P

Melanie

Well it was on my phone.

hobodave

the only big label games that still haven't outright failed me are Valve games and the Battlefield BC series

Melanie

I'm not very athletic. I have like turkey arms and legs.

hobodave

lol

I don't know what that means

Melanie

I don't buy EA games.

hobodave

4:20 AM

but turkeys have wings

so I imagine you with feathers

Melanie

Just weak.

coredump

Only game I played to the end in the last year was Assassin's Creed II I think

and DA

hobodave

I played a lot of games last year

I go in phases

I go through random periods of reclusivity for a few weeks

coredump

i started studying a lot last year so I started playing

now I am settling down

maybe I will write a RPG setting

hobodave

that'd be cool

I had an Amiga back in the day, it has a pretty amazing RPG game builder on it. I can't remember the name but I spent hours on that

coredump

4:25 AM

I am thinking pen/paper RPG

hobodave

ah

I've never gotten into that

I wanted to as a kid, but none of my friends were into it

coredump

I still play with friends here. That and the occasional board game

carcassone, war, warhammer, settlers, etc

hobodave

are those communities open to newcomers?

I'm sure it might be different here in the US, but I've always wondered

Does anyone ever show up and say, "Hey, I'm interested in this, but I'm a complete noob and I've never done it before. Can I join?"

coredump

rpg shops and conventions always run games for newcomers

rpggamefind.com for example

Nel

4:43 AM

Morning.

hobodave

mornin @Nel

I'm craving deep dish pizza :-(

Nel

Hehe

hobodave

it doesn't help that living in Chicago there are several great options just a phone call away

Nel

5:00 AM

Why so?

hobodave

Chicago is famous for its pizza

@Nel are you in the USA?

Chicago-style pizza

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Nel

@hobodave Nope im not from teh USA :P

Mmmm

Iain

7:00 AM

G'day

Chopper3

7:45 AM

morning matey

Nel

Hello chaps

Printer issues are the best

Chopper3

far from my forte sorry

Iain

Not by thing either - Hey @Warner how's tricks ?

Tom O'Connor

9:23 AM

Achievement Unlocked: Steps Reputation "▾Tom O'Connor 5,678"

Chopper3

Snotty enough answer do you think? serverfault.com/questions/261644/server-for-a-web-tv-dedicated/…

Iain

I would call that a realistic assessment of the capabilities - not snotty at all

Chopper3

9:40 AM

It's a bit of a 'hot button' for me, I'm a VoD system designer, there aren't many around the world that do that at >100k user consumer grade level, I can probably name half of them, so I get a bit uppity when I see what amounts to a boy doing a man's job :)

Robert Moir

i liked your answer to that question

Chopper3

thanks :)

SmallClanger

If I'd asked that question, I'd accept that answer and be thankful. Didn't seem snotty to me at all.

Barely out of the noise floor on the TomTom scale. :)

Robert Moir

didn't think it was too snotty at all, just a bit of a pummelling with the cold hard weight of the facts

Even TomTom's reply barely registered on the TomTom scale

Dell are here setting up the new iscsi (pauses for chopper to vomit) SAN

so i am happy, stuff i need done is getting done

Tom O'Connor

10:20 AM

@Chopper3 I'd just tell him to buy a DL980 with 2TB of ram, and stream teh video from a feckin big ramdisk

Iain

I am happy too - the annual battle with the lawnmower is won - it surrendered in less than 5 minutes !

Robert Moir

10:34 AM

hooray

SmallClanger

Joining the happy club: I just managed to use a registry hack, service restart and group tweak to enable RDP on a desktop for a remote user without breaking their existing, locked desktop session.

/dance

Chopper3

@TomOConnor FusionIO drive ;)

'king hell, that video streamer dude wanted to speak to me about building his tin-pot porn-site - I should have let him know my day-rate ;)

coredump

10:50 AM

I would work for free on a porn site

just saying

anyway

there was a girl here last night

it was very strange

Chopper3

I doubt it really was a port site, although...

Robert Moir

i got the impression it was someone who looked at youtube and thought "how hard could it be"

Ben Pilbrow

Why do people never explain their actual problem. Happens too much sigh

Chopper3

yep

Ben Pilbrow

This guy for example. He doesn't say it explicitly, but that's got all the smells of them running out of disk space. If he comes back and says they're running out, I have news for them :-)

Robert Moir

11:23 AM

Just looked at that question myself. SIS is not the answer they appear to think it is

Ben Pilbrow

No, SIS doesn't actually do that much in my experience

Robert Moir

Unless the question is "name a cool technology that can be useful in certain circumstances but which tends to return far less resource savings than laypeople expect"

Ben Pilbrow

Plus, you have the perf and IO overhead. That's why MS took it out in Exchange 2010

Robert Moir

Yeah

Ben Pilbrow

I think they do some sort of compression of message headers/bodies now, but not attachments

Robert Moir

11:25 AM

I mean don't get me wrong, i would totally use SIS where appropriate but any savings it returns are a bonus, not a basis for a storage strategy

Ben Pilbrow

Absolutely. MS have always said to ignore SIS savings when sizing Mailbox servers anyway, because you can't totally rely on it to be right all the time. There's so many things you can do that totally blow away the SIS on some things

SmallClanger

@RobertMoir: +1 for that. SIS also makes it harder to recover space.

Robert Moir

indeedy

Ben Pilbrow

Ick, I just got re-CAPTCHA'd on another site

Where's the sigma key again :P

SmallClanger

It's the sum of all the other keys.

4

Iain

11:47 AM

Σ

Character map?

Morning gents

hey

howdy

12:04 PM

@BenPilbrow it's U+03A3 - I put 03A3 into word then typed alt-x which converts the unicode immediately before the cursor into it's equivalent character

Scott Pack

12:19 PM

G'day Nigels and Gents

Bart Silverstrim

I use string to tie the tapes and equipment to things in the server room. Seems to be pretty safe from wind that way. serverfault.com/questions/261690/…

Scott Pack

I was really thinking about responding to that.

The answer is simple. Flip over to your BR site

Granted, the chances of one of those existing, and the work needed to build one out make the also also fairly snarky.

Bart Silverstrim

"What do you do about a tornado hitting your data center?" Run like hell would be the first choice.

Kaustubh P

12:39 PM

Hello admins. Has anyone used Etch?

Bart Silverstrim

The ones with two little knobbies?

2

I don't like them. You drop it and your picture goes away.

jscott

@KaustubhP If you mean Debian Etch, yes, but Etch is now out of support and should be ungraded to, at least, Lenny.

Chris S

Oh yeah... and the person on the inside who draws stuff for you.

Bart Silverstrim

There's a person in there?

Chris S

You didn't know?!

Bart Silverstrim

12:40 PM

Shaking it must really piss him off.

Kaustubh P

@jscott hey. No I meant Etch, the config tool.

SmallClanger

Chris S

Kaustubh P

sourceforge.net/apps/trac/etch/wiki/Introduction @jscott

Bart Silverstrim

Ha ha! My knobbies comment sounds like an early-day boob comment.

SmallClanger

12:41 PM

It's hipster's ipad :)

jscott

@KaustubhP That's an unfortunate name for a project. :)

Kaustubh P

@jscott (:

jscott

And, no, I have not used that Etch.

SmallClanger

Indeed. I thought you meant the debian distro :)

Bart Silverstrim

Hmm...etch-a-sketches were the 80's ipad. Wonder if I could convince them to deploy those to kids in the classroom at a massive savings...

Kaustubh P

12:42 PM

@SmallClanger I use Squeeze myself :)

I need some sort of server config management, and puppet is heavy-duty for my needs.

Chris S

@BartSilverstrim Increased security too!

SmallClanger

Can't help you there. I do most of my stuff by hand.

Bart Silverstrim

Using socks?

for...security.

Scott Pack

At least then you know that nobody else will touch your management suite.

Bart Silverstrim

Ferrets will steal just about anything.

SmallClanger

12:50 PM

Nothing like a cotton/polyester blend security layer.

Kaustubh P

@jscott @SmallClanger thanks a lot. see you around!

jscott

@BartSilverstrim As will one of my cats.

SmallClanger

Thoroughly absorbent...

jscott

@KaustubhP Bye.

Bart Silverstrim

Ever see diabetic socks? I don't know why they're called that. They don't seem any sweeter than regular socks.

Chris S

12:53 PM

@Chopper3, do you get Tornadoes over there??

Bart Silverstrim

Sure. They call them airspouts just so they don't match vocabulary in the US though.

I don't know the big deal about it though. My hard disks spin faster than tornadoes do. They should be able to survive a tornado through a data center. They're built for those speeds.

Chopper3

mild ones yes, usually nowhere near me though

Iain

@ChrisS we've probably had 2 that have done any damage in the last 10 years

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