Charcoal HQ

Undo

00:16

metasmoke now checks folks' moderator status every day right before the spam wave (i.e. quite a few hours after folks get their diamonds from elections) and will flat-out refuse to flag something with a diamond account.

2.4.0 :010 > User.find_by_username("Undo").spam_flag(Post.where(:site_id => 1).last)
  User Load (0.4ms)  SELECT  `users`.* FROM `users` WHERE `users`.`username` = 'Undo' LIMIT 1
  Post Load (0.1ms)  SELECT  `posts`.* FROM `posts` WHERE `posts`.`site_id` = 1 ORDER BY `posts`.`id` DESC LIMIT 1
RuntimeError: User is a moderator on this site; not flagging

ArtOfCode

Nice

Undo

Somehow I managed to break login on my local machine with that

I have no idea how

ArtOfCode

that might not be quite so desirable

Undo

Works at HEAD~2, not at HEAD~1. Seems to work in prod fine, though

Thomas Ward

@Undo nice

Undo

00:28

yep, Devise doesn't like the serialize statement, but only on local. Bizarre.

maybe it's trying to tell me that I really should do this the right way

Thomas Ward

heh

Undo

fine. Devise wins.

ArtOfCode

heh

for future reference, images in the meta post draft:

flags per day graph at i.sstatic.net/jeRTW.png

Undo

test foo @@73046

nice

SmokeDetector

01:19

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: PHP Mailer Script for sending Unlimited Mails by Jack Dmitry on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

SmokeDetector

01:38

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Finding talent agents for software developers by Kovit on freelancing.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Bus routes in Delhi, India? by Sandhiya Rao on travel.SE

Yvette Colomb

02:00

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

naa- by Yvette on Finding talent agents for software developers [MS]

SmokeDetector

02:39

Restart: API quota is 7373.

CaffeineAddiction

03:01

!!sd naa

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction that's not gonna work. Feedback is sd <feedback>, no !!

or it's a direct reply to the report message

CaffeineAddiction

ah, oops

where is the man page for this

ArtOfCode

I recommend the latter because then you don't have to skip non-reports

CaffeineAddiction

I know I saw it a while back

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction they're all over the place

Commands is probably the one you're looking for

CaffeineAddiction

03:02

ty

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction Of course

CaffeineAddiction

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction Yes, you are a privileged user.

CaffeineAddiction

sd naa

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction [:35444210] That message is not a report.

CaffeineAddiction

03:07

was charcoal-se.org/flagging.html just posted?

Baum mit Augen

Hiya. Some guy is spamming an answer (15x so far) on SO, apparently affiliated with the lib he promotes.

CaffeineAddiction

link?

Baum mit Augen

Is stuff like that in the scope of sd?

CaffeineAddiction

maybe, do you have a link to one of his posts?

or a link to his account?

Baum mit Augen

Account.

All relevant links are reported by Guttenberg in SOBotics.

CaffeineAddiction

03:19

@BaummitAugen Guy actually has rep on so.se and the lib he is promoting does not appear to be malicious ... imo maybe have a mod comment on each of his posts saying that he needs to claim affiliation and provide more information than he currently is

Baum mit Augen

@CaffeineAddiction So my custom flag is enough?

CaffeineAddiction

atm its pretty much "Not an Answer" which is kinda outside of the scope of SD ... though SD does pick up not an answer posts alot

Baum mit Augen

Alright. Thanks for the feedback.

CaffeineAddiction

@BaummitAugen np

Baum mit Augen

Bye

ArtOfCode

03:23

@BaummitAugen what makes you think he's affiliated? FWIW, I've heard of Conda before, which means it's probably not malicious at least, and I can't find anything at a glance linking him with it.

CaffeineAddiction

@ArtOfCode he posted the same copy and paste link to that lib like 7 times ... and its his last 7 most recent answers

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction aye, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's affiliated. People do dumb things, especially on SO.

CaffeineAddiction

so either he found this new lib and did a search of SO to spread the good news ... or he has an agenda

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Korean character in title, mostly non-Latin body, mostly non-Latin title: 바카라따는법【TAT121.ＣoM】아시안바카라 by zyvxziy7085 on rpg.SE

CaffeineAddiction

yah, still worthy of a naa flag

Yvette Colomb

03:27

sd k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in username: How to add a class to comment submit button? by obat sipilis on wordpress.SE

tpu- by Yvette

Baum mit Augen

03:42

@ArtOfCode I thought Scrapy and Scrapinghub was the same thing. Mebbe not.

ArtOfCode

@BaummitAugen have heard of the former, but not the latter

Baum mit Augen

@ArtOfCode The latter is in his profile.

ArtOfCode

shrug

Mod flag is probably enough to get them to figure it out

Baum mit Augen

Yeah. Stuff like that is why I come to ask if I'm not sure. :)

Dealt with. Baum out. o/

CaffeineAddiction

@BaummitAugen they are being deleted 18x in total

apparently mods get flagged when activity like that happens anyway ... they said in my meta post that a custom flag is enough ... they also scolded me for the meta post which I deleted after the responce

Andy

04:01

Does either smoky or metasmoke have a web apps post?

Also, I'm poking at that meta draft - and making it markdown, just FYI

CaffeineAddiction

@Andy I dont know what your looking for exactly, but I found this: charcoal-se.org when trying to find metasmoke w/ google earlier

It has references to various API and Userscripts

Andy

I'm looking for a post on WebApps about either Smoky or MS.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: True Skin Instant Wrinkle Formula by giltwinwaning on apple.SE

Andy

But, searching this room for "webapps" is pretty much useless due to the daily quota reports

CaffeineAddiction

@sd tp

Yvette Colomb

04:06

oh I want that true instant wrinkle formula, I want to look like I'm 202!

ArtOfCode

might help if you were searching for Stack Apps rather than webapps, @Andy

CaffeineAddiction

sd tp

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction [:35445050] Recorded question as true positive in metasmoke. Use tpu or trueu if you want to blacklist a user.

@CaffeineAddiction: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Why do noble gases bond with themselves but not other elements? by juan on chemistry.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Detecting cigar/cigarette smoke levels by Joseph Frasca on diy.SE

tpu- by Yvette on Why do noble gases bond with themselves but not other elements? [MS]

tpu- by ArtOfCode

CaffeineAddiction

sd tpu

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction [:35445125] That message is not a report.

Andy

04:07

@ArtOfCode Well...that is slightly embarassing

ArtOfCode

@SmokeDetector and this is why I recommend replies :)

@Andy </brainfart>

metasmoke certainly has one, for its write token access

Andy

To make sure I'm not embarassing myself even more...there isn't one for Smokey, right?

ArtOfCode

not that it's very informative

@Andy I don't believe so

Andy

ok

Yvette Colomb

@ArtOfCode lol

SmokeDetector

04:14

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in link text in body, pattern-matching website in body: what are the problems to write essay by lawrencedenson on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: probiomaxmexico.com/testo-ultra-it/ by Asilza on graphicdesign.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: It grants toned and firmer body by mballjuri on gaming.SE

angussidney

SD 2k

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Development Period And manhood Enlargments by NichaelDaker on drupal.SE

angussidney

SD k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Best Natual Skin Care Products For Better Skin by Thozroist on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

CaffeineAddiction

SD k

SmokeDetector

04:25

@CaffeineAddiction: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.

CaffeineAddiction

well thats a bug

@Undo @ArtOfCode metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/57298 somehow it let me vote twice intended?

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction the first one of those came from chat, the second from review on MS.

CaffeineAddiction

yep

ArtOfCode

ideally probably should be disallowed, but in practice... just feedback once

CaffeineAddiction

kk, yah I did the chat command but the other one didnt go away so I was wondering if chat failed for some reason

Andy

04:29

In the Google Doc there is a link to: metasmoke.charcoal-se.org Is this correct?

If so, does that link work for anyone? It's not loading for me, but the metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com works fine

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: slimlifehealthyadvice.com/gladiator-Tactical-flashlights/ by HymanKeo on graphicdesign.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: by sports advocates and athletes in training. Most athletes who by tingerjuriya on drupal.SE

tpu- by tripleee

CaffeineAddiction

SD k

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction [:35445456] That message is not a report.

CaffeineAddiction

sd k

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction [:35445458] That message is not a report.

tripleee

04:33

@Andy nope, resolves to 34.197.90.29 whereas Undo's is 54.236.78.156

I guess somebody needs to update the script to update both DNS locations when it's moved

angussidney

@CaffeineAddiction you may prefer to use the reply format, like this:

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer, blacklisted user: Why do noble gases bond with themselves but not other elements? by hose on chemistry.SE

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector naa

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: TRUE SKIN INSTANT WRINKLE FORMULA! by zaknorris on meta.SE

tripleee

you get the link by clicking on the little arrow next to a post, it fills in with something like :35445500 at the beginning of the chat input box

CaffeineAddiction

04:35

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

tpu- by tripleee on Why do noble gases bond with themselves but not other elements? [MS]

tpu- by tripleee

tripleee

but the FDSC userscript is a lot more convenient

angussidney

@CaffeineAddiction you're simply pinging smokey, you need to make sure that it's a reply. Just hover on the message, then click the little arrow that appears on the right.

CaffeineAddiction

oh, the reply arrow next to the message

i got it

angussidney

Something like :12345678 will appear in your message box

CaffeineAddiction

04:37

I thought it was similar to an irc bot

tripleee

@angussidney ^ chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/35445511#35445511

ArtOfCode

@Andy someone didn't tell me of a DNS move is why :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: supplement4help.com/alpha-force-testo/ by cfefr bnsdf on apple.SE

ArtOfCode

Updated the v4. @Undo what's your new v6 for metasmoke?

SmokeDetector

tpu- by ArtOfCode

angussidney

04:40

@SmokeDetector k

Project idea: android app for CHQ with our userscripts integrated

But that's never going to happen

tripleee

@ArtOfCode DNS lookup gives me 2600:1f18:444f:1f00::b

ArtOfCode

@tripleee suspect DNS won't like that; what's the full form?

Andy

@ArtOfCode @Undo there are a couple TL stats that we are allowed to share (Undo got permission). One such stat is:

> 95.4% of spam flags across the network are ‘helpful’

Undo

@ArtOfCode dns will be fine with it

Andy

How do we want to cite that, since a link to TL isn't a good thing

ArtOfCode

04:46

@Andy That one's in there already

Andy

@ArtOfCode I'm prettifying :)

ArtOfCode

probably "(thanks jmac)"

Undo

^ That's all we need

Andy

Actually, I'm eliminating things that are repeated mostly

ok

tripleee

@SmokeDetector another Ubuntu post which isn't greyed for me

Undo

04:48

Grey for me

tripleee

@Undo ok ack, probably something on my end then

Undo

Or websocket failure of some kind

ArtOfCode

@angussidney got a link to the google doc that you created? Something about security concerns, I think

RFC#02, anyway

angussidney

2 secs

tripleee

@ArtOfCode this one? docs.google.com/document/d/…

angussidney

04:51

docs.google.com/document/d/…

ArtOfCode

that's the one

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Winter Produce Tips To Find A Flawless Face by Jusefewftin on superuser.com

Jamal

sd k

Andy

Password reset is broken on MS :(

Undo

o.O

CaffeineAddiction

04:54

@Andy I just used it 1h ago or so

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in link text in answer: Is it ethical to host ads on institute provided homepage? by rosesandra on academia.SE (@Wrzlprmft)

Jamal

sd k

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector SD k

Undo

@Andy Is this before or after clicking the link in the email?

Andy

@Undo I clicked the email link and got that page

Undo

04:55

kk

Email from the last couple hours?

Andy

Email from less than 10 minutes ago

Undo

k

ArtOfCode

@Undo mind giving me write access to RFC1?

angussidney

@CaffeineAddiction you only need to prefix your message with sd if it's a normal message, if it's a reply you only need the feedback type e.g. k or f or n

Undo

@ArtOfCode link?

ArtOfCode

04:57

docs.google.com/document/d/…

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: musclesciencefacts.com/alpha-monster-advanced/ by user72785 on drupal.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Odoo installation Magento Connector by Hoodiee on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Undo on http://musclesciencefacts.com/alpha-monster-advanced/ [MS]

Undo

@Andy What's the link you clicked?

Should be fine to post here, I can invalidate

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Andy

@Undo metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/users/password/…

SmokeDetector

04:59

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Does Male Enhancement Work by philipsbergin on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: I'll give you a detailed explanation of [Luminescent Serum] by maidanomaan on apple.SE

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: acaiultralean-france.com/testoultra-de/ by James Stowe on apple.SE

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

ArtOfCode

05:04

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@ArtOfCode That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Mithrandir, Ferrybig, Magisch.

angussidney

@CaffeineAddiction yep, you've got it right now

CaffeineAddiction

;p

ArtOfCode

Nice. Once this has been running a while, @Undo is gonna need to pull time-to-deletion stats for before and after

Undo

aye

ArtOfCode

05:05

speaking of which, we should really do that data explorer thing at some point... where did we get to with that

Undo

it's in a branch

awaiting me getting over my trepidation at doing that

ArtOfCode

oh, someone actually did it? nice

Undo

I think it was you :P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: slimlifehealthyadvice.com/gladiator-Tactical-flashlights/ by ramoncleary on apple.SE

ArtOfCode

@Undo so I guess at this point we just need daily SQL dump/import, or we need a read only user on the prod database

SmokeDetector

05:07

tpu- by Undo

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Undo

@ArtOfCode can't do that, prod database has PII

ArtOfCode

@Undo ...so it was

@Undo supposedly possible to use SQL views to exclude that, but documentation is lacking

so the former

Undo

@Andy Try it again now

Andy

@Undo Request the password again? Or did you send me the email again?

Undo

05:09

@Andy You'll have to start from the beginning of the process

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Improved levels of sexual execution by Degiverthe27 on workplace.SE

Andy

ok

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Undo

Undo

Workplace limit is working

Andy

That worked, @Undo

Undo

05:12

sweet

Where'd it redirect you to?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: dense and huge muscularity. This formulation aspect by nchjuriyam on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: garciniacambogiavibeadvice.com/vita-ultimate-garcinia-cambogia/ by user225016 on apple.SE

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Undo

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Andy

The preferences page, which it what I was trying to get to in the first place

Undo

05:13

@Andy That's interesting. Good.

That's pretty awesome.

Magisch

@Undo ?

Undo

All three autoflags, within a second of eachother

Magisch

You cleared them

Why?

Andy

Because the post was deleted

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, blacklisted user: Windows 8.1 app Navigation - Page failing to load by M.H. Mamun on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Undo

05:19

oh, mod timeline terminology is weird

Magisch

ah

cleared doesnt mean what I think it means

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector naa

SmokeDetector

@CaffeineAddiction Recorded answer as an NAA in metasmoke.

Andy

@ArtOfCode are both of those images in the draft uploaded to imgur?

ArtOfCode

@Andy yep, the first of them is Undo's graph, which was in here at some point yesterday

Andy

05:20

And, when I have this in markdown/editted, do you want me to paste it in the doc as a new page or in a gist for you to look over first?

Undo

Gist is nice for markdown

ArtOfCode

Gist is nicer for formatting, yeah

Andy

ok

Magisch

Charcoal is expanding soon, wohooo

(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

Andy

> The above graph plots the cumulative weight of the reasons that caught a post (one reason’s weight is equal to its percentage accuracy) against the counts of true positive reports and total reports on the left-hand scale, and against the overall accuracy percentage on the right-hand scale.

That is...confusing...

Can we clean it up a bit?

That is for this graph

SmokeDetector

05:25

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body: cluesforhealth.com/derma-promedics/ by leonpwyliese on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Jamal

This spam post (already reported) is still around.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: The condition would even effect the opportunity to be particularly wild by Hally1934 on apple.SE

Magisch

@Jamal no longer

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Magisch

CaffeineAddiction

05:27

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: TESTO MUSCLE FUEL - Easy In use product by TESTO MUSCLE FUEL on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Luminescent Serum: The Best Review? by ajanamein on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: given to kids and younger boys hold the by mballjuri on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

angussidney

Sd 2k

Magisch

05:36

curious side effect of 3 flags: Now sometimes stuff that already has 2-3 flags (like some stuff on SO) when we report it gets the nuke before one of us can flag it, causing an influx in manual feedback again

:p

Andy

Markdown version of the meta draft, with some additional copy edits:

gist: 209115572a1071eadb3533efe4e3cbc3, 2017-02-15 05:36:23Z

Autoflag meta draft.md

Notable changes:

- Eliminated some things that were repeated over and over again repeatedly, repeated. Repeat.
- Added more links to things

Magisch

@Andy May want to change "We will cast up to three flags" -> "Our system will automatically cast up to 3 spam flags"

Otherwise looks good imo

Andy

@Magisch ✓

angussidney

@Andy is that the same as the google doc, but in markdown? If not, it may be worth updating the doc to the gist

AFK

ArtOfCode

@Andy I think I like having the separate "what is charcoal"/"what is Smokey" sections, just for the sake of being uber-clear about it

SmokeDetector

05:43

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Sonix Garcinia Losing weight by QuinnTuck on graphicdesign.SE

Andy

@angussidney There are some differences. I combined a few paragraphs/sentences that were redundant and spelled "organization" like a civilized person ;)

Magisch

@Andy Also may want to add a paragraph with stats, like we caught X true positives yet, Y automatic spam flags yet, Z users trusted us with the ability to cast flags in their name, etc.

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Andy

@ArtOfCode I am conflicted on that. They are good to have, but having them makes the post longer and doesn't really explain the system that much.

ArtOfCode

also, minor things: "web dash board" -> "web dashboard"; "your safety checks" -> "our safety checks" (consistency); "finish of" -> "finish off"

Andy

05:45

That's why I combined all of that into the What is this? section

@Magisch I'm all for more stats. I copy pasted what's in the google doc for those. If you want more, just let me know what to add

ArtOfCode

Stat: those 3000 flags were cast across 22 users' accounts

Andy

@ArtOfCode ✓, ✓, ✓

Magisch

@Andy I think "Over the years, Smoke Detector caught X (some 40k) true spam positives, and Y users have contributed to the project. Presently, 22 users trust us to cast spam flags in their name, and we have cast $Z automatic spam flags over the past $time"

ArtOfCode

@Magisch the last sentence is already there, bar the 22 users

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Testo Fire X Always stretch for about 10 minutes before you begin your weight lifting routine by user351290 on meta.SE

tpu- by Magisch

CaffeineAddiction

05:49

@SmokeDetector k

Magisch

@ArtOfCode right

Do you guys have a strategic time to post this in mind?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: supplementlab.org/testo-alpha-force/ by mwuu bnsdf on apple.SE

tpu- by Magisch

Andy

@Magisch Someone mentioned earlier, Monday at the earliest

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Magisch

Yeah but beyond that

May be worth posting at peak activity

ArtOfCode

05:52

depends if you're meta-gaming meta or not

Magisch

well, aren't we?

Andy

When it's posted, the room needs to either coordinate responses, so we don't all jump on users to answer them or designate a handful of people to be the "spokes people" (again, so we don't jump all over users)

@ArtOfCode We're not going for a high score? :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: DermaFolia you get the most expansive results possible at a prompt cost. by user86456 on graphicdesign.SE

Magisch

We should probably coordinate this at a time of high meta activity and then have people cover for a while to respond to inquiries.

ArtOfCode

@Andy well I can't deny it would be nice :)

CaffeineAddiction

05:53

@SmokeDetector k

Magisch

If we're doing this to get ahead of the discussion, we may as well go all out

Andy

I've incorporated the changes mentioned above in the gist

@Magisch *without tripping on each other

Magisch

sure

Next monday would probably be a good idea tbh

ArtOfCode

I'm sorta tempted to have spokespeople because that removes the need for co-ordination, but it does also prevent a bunch of good people weighing in.

Magisch

Monday means whole week of peak SE activity ahead, and as far away as possible from the weekend

ArtOfCode

05:55

wow okay, we really are metagaming this thing

CaffeineAddiction

lol, go big or go home

Magisch

the goal is to get as many people as possible to know, right?

CaffeineAddiction

I dont know, I think most of us have seen the progress this tool has been making over the months ... and we all want it to succeed

ArtOfCode

that would be nice

Andy

@ArtOfCode I like the idea of spokespeople, if only to keep everything simple. Those people quickly get noticed in the meta thread so it's easy to follow who's involved and determine "answers from the devs" vs. "I once programmed in python, why don't you use this instead?!" type answers

CaffeineAddiction

05:58

isnt it already written in python?

Magisch

So who'd spokespeople be

The admins?

ArtOfCode

@Andy but I programmed a really complicated thing in Python, so you should definitely listen to me

Magisch

I wrote hello world in python once

It crashed

Andy

@CaffeineAddiction Yes, it is. But I'm saying that someone else - not related to the project - adds their two cents on how it should work

CaffeineAddiction

lol

ArtOfCode

05:59

I vote @Andy for spokesperson

Andy

@Magisch Blame the parenthesis

CaffeineAddiction

@Andy i know

ArtOfCode

(at least one of)

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