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CaffeineAddiction

06:00

well ... you guys do have a sockpuppet

I vote you make SD do it

ArtOfCode

That would be kinda amusing - making Smokey itself respond to questions

Magisch

We probably need 2-3

people

CaffeineAddiction

talking about itself in the third person

Andy

I'm up for that. With the single caveat, that I am in central US (it's midnight right now). I'm sure everyone else would have the same caveat with their own timezone

ArtOfCode

Hard to get more authoritative than the bot itself

Magisch

06:01

And they'd need to be available as much as possible during the week following the meta

ArtOfCode

@Andy Pssh. Amateur. It's 0600 over here ;)

Andy

@Magisch I'm always around :)

@ArtOfCode I haven't gone to bed yet

Magisch

I'd be up for it for non-programming related smokey stuff

ArtOfCode

@Andy nor me

Magisch

I have some practice in explaining smokey to newcomers

Andy

06:01

Soon...but not yet. I keep looking at a couple movies I want to watch and am deciding if it's worth starting tonight

ArtOfCode

@Magisch honestly, I get the feeling there'll be more of that happening in chat than on the thread

Magisch

sure

ArtOfCode

cuz you can explain it once in a comment and everyone will see it because it got upvoted, but it'll keep getting lost in chat and needing re-explaining

or at least re-linking

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.healthsupplementsreviews.info/vigor-excel/ by user86458 on graphicdesign.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: At whatever time you complete just viewpoint by lenaadorno827 on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Magisch on http://www.healthsupplementsreviews.info/vigor-excel/ [MS]

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

thats odd ... that second link ... only had 2 votes when I hit it

thought smoky does 3 automagicly

tripleee

06:04

@CaffeineAddiction depends on the weight

this one had 291

CaffeineAddiction

ah, interesting

only 3x if over 300?

tripleee

apparently not because there's one with 288 which got three

so I guess the logic is wrong

I've been meaning to ask about that

it seems that it selects a flagger randomly, then checks if this flagger's limits allow it to actually post a flag

if it pooled the flaggers whose criteria are met, there would be different problems, though

it would always flag if someone has a low enough threshold, and that someone would have a lot of potentially low-quality flags

you can see what got flagged here metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/flagging/logs

and there's one with 196 weight which also got three flags

^ IMHO we should not be doing that, at least not yet

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by tripleee

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Magisch

tripleee

06:08

@ArtOfCode weren't we supposed to avoid posting a lot of flags for low weight?

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

ArtOfCode

@tripleee how d'you mean? Lower the max flags at lower weights?

SmokeDetector

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Magisch

@tripleee Not possible. The minimum standard is 99,5% accuracy

so people can't go lower even if they try

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Yvette

CaffeineAddiction

06:09

@SmokeDetector k

Yvette Colomb

almost spammy thoughts?

Magisch

nah

just bad Q

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Yvette

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: NaturaCel Danger Free Test Now Available by naturacel on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Magisch

Yvette Colomb

06:14

@Magisch thanks bud

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

tripleee

@ArtOfCode yeah, that's what I was thinking

like max 1 flag up to say 300, 2 for what, lower than 400?

ArtOfCode

@tripleee yeah... meh. Everything is mandated over 99.5% accurate anyway, which is probably 20% better than humans.

tripleee

precise boundaries TBD obviously

@ArtOfCode what about the one which got only two, is my speculation correct?

ArtOfCode

@tripleee the one which only got two?

Magisch

06:19

I dont think we need to tier # of autoflags

If a post is good enough to auto flag, it is good enough to autoflag to the maximum extent we do

ArtOfCode

I tend to agree

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector this one @ArtOfCode

Magisch

We had what 1 FP now in 3200 flags an that was a horrifically off topic post anyways

tripleee

@ArtOfCode this speculation chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/35446642#35446642

@Magisch fair enough, my impression was that we were supposed to be going tiered

ArtOfCode

it doesn't do any checking at all, actually

picks a flagger randomly and tries to cast a flag in their name

gives up and moves on to the next flagger if it can't

CaffeineAddiction

06:22

@ArtOfCode so fire and forget ... and if it fails screw it?

Magisch

Maybe we should make it check only among the flaggers who'd be eligible to flag the post @ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

repeat until we have enough flags

CaffeineAddiction

ah, so it does try again w/ another

kk

Magisch

So if there's a 190 weight post, it'd only choose from people who have chosen to allow 190 for flag casting

tripleee

@Magisch but then the ones with low thresholds would be selected a lot

ArtOfCode

06:23

@Magisch what would the gain be, though? We should always hit the target number of flags, because it'll just keep trying again until we have enough

Magisch

@ArtOfCode i suppose

We dont have low thresholds

We have high and super high thresholds

tripleee

do we have a statistic for how many flaggers are available at which levels?

ArtOfCode

@Magisch this is... the entire point of flag conditions. Your account is only used for casting flags when one of your conditions is met or exceeded.

@tripleee I have a list of every condition, so kinda sorta.

Magisch

I didn't know about the retry until we have enough thing

tripleee

@ArtOfCode "kinda sorta" as in we can easily figure out if we have enough flaggers if all spam posts suddenly just barely get 190?

Yvette Colomb

06:28

please will some of you gentlemen browse my last comment in socvr. We need some votes there

ArtOfCode

@tripleee I count 7 people eligible for flagging 190

CaffeineAddiction

@YvetteColomb link?

Yvette Colomb

. stackoverflow.com/questions/42241735/…

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by tripleee

Yvette Colomb

@CaffeineAddiction you'll relate to this

CaffeineAddiction

06:36

@YvetteColomb ;)

Yvette Colomb

@CaffeineAddiction omg you must speak up!

Andy

@ArtOfCode, you win the "who can stay up longest" contest.

ArtOfCode

@Andy why thank you, I intend to function for the next 18 hours too... somehow.

Andy

I'll try to keep the gist updated with changes I see to the Google Doc, or we can migrate the markdown to the googledoc

Good luck :)

SmokeDetector

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CaffeineAddiction

06:39

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

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CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Yvette

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

that one only got 1x vote from SD

odd

SmokeDetector

06:58

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: You may use around the fragile eye place, by windosclose on apple.SE

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Glorfindel

@CaffeineAddiction that's on purpose. On Workplace and EL&U, three spam flags suffice instead of six to kill a post.

CaffeineAddiction

ah, ok

SmokeDetector

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CaffeineAddiction

so smaller communities need less flags

@SmokeDetector k

Magisch

07:11

@CaffeineAddiction These two in particular suffered some massive spam waves

to the # of flags needed was reduced temporarily

It also means we can't do 3 there, that'd unilaterally nuke a post

CaffeineAddiction

ah

SmokeDetector

07:32

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Why ist stack Overflow such shit? by John Smith on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Magisch

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Magisch

For them, this was their final outburst of rage. For us, it was tuesday

CaffeineAddiction

@Magisch Wednesday

tripleee

should the metasmoke stack apps page be updated? stackapps.com/questions/7142/…

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

07:37

@Mithrandir That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Magisch.

ArtOfCode

@tripleee probably once we've done the meta post

Magisch

This meta post will be a real stress test for how organized we are

ArtOfCode

I suspect the answer is "organized enough".

Magisch

We should probably still re-evaluate our processes

and see if we have any bottleneck

ArtOfCode

such as

Magisch

07:41

What happens when people come in

How do we explain SD to people

CaffeineAddiction

I guess all that really matters is that the organization here is superior to the organization of that of the spammers ... gg

Magisch

How do we handle applications for privileges (we could use a form for that, maybe)

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

ArtOfCode

@Magisch the question I usually ask myself is "do we need to?"

Magisch

07:43

Who responds to inquiries and for what

ArtOfCode

realistically, how many privilege requests are we going to get?

Magisch

A whole bunch

ArtOfCode

we rely on anyone who's here to explain Smokey, so that's fine

Magisch

remember, we're about to introduce thousands of people to the project for the first time

CaffeineAddiction

lol, i can only imagine a bunch of diamonds coming in here saying "OP Plx"

ArtOfCode

07:44

@Magisch I'd bet you we don't see upwards of 20 requests

Magisch

@ArtOfCode I'd take that bet

ArtOfCode

@Magisch metaphorical bet, you're on :)

Magisch

charcoal-se.org is a good page to link to someone first, right?

ArtOfCode

should be

Magisch

All relevant information should be discoverable there

ArtOfCode

07:45

it's intended as a first-look intro to Smokey

Magisch

We probably need to agree to limit the initial explaining to one person per new guy

So we don't have 3 people showering someone in links :p

CaffeineAddiction

not all of the userscripts on that site work

fyi

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction "work" as in how?

@Magisch whoever gets there first

CaffeineAddiction

@ArtOfCode "CHQ Spam Reporter" gave me some error when I ran it

Magisch

Thankfully we can rely on having only sensible and motivated people here

CaffeineAddiction

07:48

the Smoky Sidebar is pretty nifty though

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction yeah, that's defunct now - functionality is merged into FDSC

Magisch

That means we don't need to over organize everything

ArtOfCode

should probably nuke it from the repo to be honest

CaffeineAddiction

well, its still listed in the user scripts on that page ... might want to prune it

Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode I like the Meta post, but what does it ask? I mean, in it's current form it will be probably closed as 'unclear what you're asking'. And reopened, and closed again, and reopened again.

ArtOfCode

07:50

@Glorfindel meta posts don't need to ask anything

they don't have to be questions

and we have an SO mod here who can reinforce that

Magisch

@Glorfindel Probably not

Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode true, that will help. But Meta posts still have to be questions, mere announcements are rare, even those from Stack Overflow itself.

Magisch

A meta post announcing / discussing something is fine so long as its actually relevant to the meta

the take a stand post was so controversial because it had abjectly nothing to do with MSO

Glorfindel

@Magisch even the Developer Story leak post was closed/reopened multiple times.

CaffeineAddiction

@ArtOfCode also random note ... charcoal-se.org/userscripts link to Blaze yields a 404 due to uppercase B

SmokeDetector

07:54

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tpu- by Glorfindel

ArtOfCode

@CaffeineAddiction it's the trailing slash, not the uppercase. GH Pages is fragile.

CaffeineAddiction

ah

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@Magisch That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: angussidney, KazWolfe, ByteCommander.

Glorfindel

07:57

!!/blacklist-keyword collamask

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Blacklisted collamask

CI on 6746eb1 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 6746eb1 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of collamask by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 6022.

CaffeineAddiction

@SmokeDetector k

Glorfindel

!!/blacklist-keyword skincell\Wpro

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Blacklisted skincell\Wpro

Glorfindel

!!/blacklist-keyword naturacel

SmokeDetector

08:06

@Glorfindel Blacklisted naturacel

CI on da328ae succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 5c8b184 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of naturacel by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 5976.

Glorfindel

!!/blacklist-keyword luminescent\Wserum

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Blacklisted luminescent\Wserum

CI on a5ffa63 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a5ffa63 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of luminescent\Wserum by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 5913.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Why was 1984 set in 1984? by fWd82 on literature.SE (@Mithrandir)

fp- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Clair Skin key affirmation five to ten day pack by Hason1976 on workplace.SE

Glorfindel

08:25

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Collagen is capable to keep our dermis structure by Ench1958 on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.oralhealthplus.com/test-boost-elite-reviews/ by zovagojo on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

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tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

08:42

@Glorfindel If we absolutely have to have a question in there, it could be "Should we expand this further" or something of the sort cc @ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

we don't :)

Magisch

Are we in agreement yet on what meta we'll post it?

Also, who is going to post it? SD, undo, you art?

ArtOfCode

me or undo, probably

doubt we'll use the bot account

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel

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tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: garciniacambogiavibeadvice.com/vita-ultimate-garcinia-cambogia/ by user225016 on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

As for the timing on monday, we either want the start of the european workday or the start of the american workday

Around 9am for either

Glorfindel

08:53

I guess the latter - that's when activity is at its peak.

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: essentialdetoxsweden.com/retinolla/ by ShannonHaug on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Glorfindel

You can check which SE sites you haven't joined yet (for autoflagging) with this SEDE query.

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel

tripleee

09:09

tried 169312 per meta.stackexchange.com/users/169312/tripleee and my corresponding StackOverflow numeric ID

@Glorfindel what am I supposed to use as my id? It shows sites for which I do have an account

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Magento - Programmatically create custom product attribute via set up script by Aleksandrs on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

naa- by Mithrandir

Glorfindel

@tripleee it's in the description of the query. You'll need the ID of your network profile.

tripleee

so which one is that?

Mithrandir

@tripleee stackexchange.com/users/468289/tripleee

Glorfindel

stackexchange.com/users/468289/tripleee

tripleee

09:10

if it's not 169312?

ArtOfCode

468289 @tripleee, stackexchange.com/users/468289/tripleee

tripleee

ah okay thx

where do I find that tough?

Glorfindel

There is a 'Network Profile' link on every profile page, in the top right corner.

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel

tpu- by Kyll on Magento - Programmatically create custom product attribute via set up script [MS]

tripleee

@Glorfindel oooh okay, thanks

Mithrandir

09:12

Wow, this spam is going fast now....

ArtOfCode

well we have effectively just halved the number of spam flags required to nuke a post, network-wide

2

Mithrandir

Yep.

Glorfindel

For the obvious spam posts, that is.

But that's definitely worth celebrating.

tripleee

@SmokeDetector I see "You autoflagged" but not the flags of others on that one

also flagged by Cerbrus and Ferrybig but AIM doesn't show me that

hovering shows "Flagged by"

and the number next to the flag is 1

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Mithrandir

Mithrandir

09:15

They've now got a history.

Kyll

Is the website legit?

Glorfindel

I'm not 100% sure I would flag that as spam.

I'll leave a comment this time.

Kyll

Two different unregistered accounts with the same name, same answer content, always posting a link to a website which provides a service. Spam for me.

Mithrandir

Agreed.

Wait why?

SmokeDetector

fp- by Mithrandir

tripleee

09:20

@SmokeDetector sorry, shortcut keys focus on the wrong answer sometimes

can I retract a report?

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

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Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector k

Magisch

!!/blacklist-website magento-attribute\.com

SmokeDetector

@Magisch Blacklisted magento-attribute\.com

naa- by Mithrandir

Mithrandir

09:21

It's true true true true. NAA to me...

Kyll

@Mithrandir Fits in my "garbage" category, hence rude

SmokeDetector

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Magisch

@ArtOfCode We are

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel on Do you have acne, fine lines [MS]

Magisch

I'm looking forward to the detractors coming forth on meta

Mithrandir

09:22

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 84666ac (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of magento-attribute\.com by Magisch --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 5507.

Magisch

It's ridiculous how the time to deletion shortens

We'll see that when the graph catches up

Spam very often doesn't make a minute now

Kyll

:35448362 Do also ask in SOCVR for long-lived SO spam, too

Mithrandir

@Kyll I don't head to chat.so, it's scary

Kyll

our place is nice and cosy and waffley though =p

Magisch

09:26

@Kyll SO Spam is now gone almost instantaneously

Mithrandir

SOCVR = Stack Overflow Close Vote Reviewers?

Magisch

at least the obvious so spam

Kyll

@Mithrandir Yes

Glorfindel

@Mithrandir SOCVR is a nice place, it has a lot of overlap with Charcoal.

And contrary to popular opinion, they don't dislike wizards.

tripleee

but it's SO only

Magisch

09:29

mhm

SOCVR is more close votes and less spam

tripleee

but it's SO only

Kyll

@Magisch Kinda yeah. Well it's everything moderation-related, including spam. And the regulars are decently experienced with Smokey.

Mithrandir

Annoying on the new top bar: Incoming rep is less noticeable. (Not that I use SO often, but...)

ArtOfCode

If it's automated moderation you want, you're looking for SOBotics

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Mithrandir on You can do is to choose a weight loss program [MS]

tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

09:34

@ArtOfCode That reminds me

If we post the meta on MSO a bunch of people will have a field day on us

ArtOfCode

they will?

Magisch

Yah

hans for instance

We have a good amount of regular meta people who don't like automating moderation at all

ArtOfCode

well... tough on them

Magisch

We'll probably get a few answers / comments to the tune of "This is unfair and you should all be banned for it"

ArtOfCode

Comments, sure. Answers, flag 'em as NAA

Mithrandir

09:38

We might even get some Rude/Abusive to flag :P

ArtOfCode

the MSO/MSE thing is balancing higher traffic (MSO) against an easier audience (MSE).

Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode I feel we can handle the audience.

Magisch

We're lighting a fire, can't be afraid to get burned

ArtOfCode

I tend to think we can, too

Mithrandir

Question: Why not both?

Magisch

09:39

If it's really not well recieved we can migrate it

Mithrandir

Also - post 'em on Smokey's account.

Glorfindel

@Mithrandir cross posting is not allowed.

Mithrandir

@Glorfindel Meta is different.... :P

ArtOfCode

@Glorfindel cross posting without tailoring is not allowed, no. Though there's probably not much to tailor.

Glorfindel

but not that different :)

Kyll

09:40

@Mithrandir No - Art or Undo posting it would be a way better argument of authority

Magisch

So Next monday, 20.02.2017 15:00 (Middle european winter time) / 9.00 (New York time)

Glorfindel

Maybe even two hours later - it's only 6:00 PST, then.

Mithrandir

Ah, that Doc is a refernce to this...

SmokeDetector

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tpu- by Glorfindel

angussidney

@Magisch what time UCT?

Mithrandir

09:55

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Cerbrus, DavidPostill, Magisch.

Glorfindel

@angussidney what he proposes is 14:00 UTC.

You're probably asleep, then.

angussidney

Well, I can take the second shift then

Magisch

@ArtOfCode Input on the timeline?

Was thinking Monday 20th Feb 2017 Between 9am and 11am new york time

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