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JAD
7:00 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
A J
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +7 more: healthonlinereviews.com/turmeric-forskolin/ by jodieallan on askubuntu.com
 
A J
@SmokeDetector k
 
@AJ I always reject those.
No reason to send that nonsense to the SE queue. If you are 2k, that's different.
 
A J
There are more problems in that post that user failed to suggest in his edit.
 
JAD
7:05 AM
that's not a reason not to decline
 
A J
Though meta post suggests something else.
 
@AJ That's where Reject and Edit comes in play
 
A J
825
A: Should 'Hi', 'thanks', taglines, and salutations be removed from posts?

TheTXII've always been against the greetings and salutations (along with other extraneous clutter) in questions for a number of reasons: It will leave even less room in the question preview so that we have more difficulty gauging what a question consists of by reading the preview. It takes time to re...

 
JAD
@AJ they should be removed, yes. Is it worth wasting peoples' time by having it go through the queue? No.
It's not that problematic.
 
A J
3 mins ago, by A J
There are more problems in that post that user failed to suggest in his edit.
 
JAD
7:08 AM
I don't see how that has anything to do with the suggested edit.
 
A J
My point is to Reject and Edit, not only Reject.
 
There is always approve edit/reject edit.
 
A J
Not Improve Edit or Reject and Edit?
 
@AJ yeah that
 
"insignificant edit" used to be a reject reason (don't remember the exact phrasing) but it was removed, partly on the theory that even minor edits actually help improve things
 
7:10 AM
I would go for Improve edit in this case..
 
but I agree that it would be useful to not have these in the queue, and probably rejecting them (especially if somebody is doing it in bulk) would send a signal to the OP to stop doing that
 
JAD
@tripleee except that you don't get explicit rejects on edits
 
@JAD true
but if you are doing them in bulk for rep you are somewhat likely to go back and check why you didn't get the expected gains
 
A J
Another suggested edit from the same user
 
JAD
they have 144 edits
 
7:13 AM
Their last four are rejected: stackoverflow.com/users/3916953/…
 
JAD
4 of which in the last hour containing the reason "removed thanks"
 
A J
yup
 
They even left "Please help" in there
 
You're not helping the community with this minor edit on an unsalvageable post.
 
Time for custom reject reason IMO
 
7:15 AM
If I'm really wanting to highlight what they did wrong, I'll reject and give a reason, usually custom, then force an edit. This has the same effect as reject and edit, but also leaves the reject reason as a note to the user who suggested the edit.
 
A J
yup
 
@Glorfindel My favorite ones to reject are the ones that edit a NAA. "Can someone help me? Thanks"
Where thanks was removed
 
@AnasBinNazeer Please refrain from making only minor edits on posts like these. You are cluttering the review queue with your "removed thanks" edits. We do appreciate the effort but trivial edits are better left to someone with 2k+ reputation so they don't have to be reviewed manually and don't clog the queue. — tripleee 21 secs ago
 
@AnasBinNazeer whenever you can, do more within a suggested edit than just removing thanks. Posts like this should be flagged as Too Broad, rather than put into another review queue. — Glorfindel 7 secs ago
 
A J
I am checking their suggested edits and all does nothing but remove thanks etc.
 
7:16 AM
trip types faster than me
 
@AJ Probably time for a custom modflag at that point
 
A J
thinking of a reason to put in the box
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: This natural way is done to reduce by Ange net on drupal.SE
 
There's an algorithm if too many SE are declined then they are blocked for 7 days I believe
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A: Too many of your edits were rejected, try again in 7 days

wafflesI just amended it to take into account your accepts. When deciding on whether we should ban or not, we now look at your last 7 days of activity. If (rejects - (approvals / 3)) >= 5, you will be auto-banned. Note that "rejects" is the count of rejections made by human users/moderators only, rej...

 
@SmokeDetector k
Feedback is not recorded at this point right?
 
A J
7:20 AM
@Magisch can't think of any message.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: bettercoloncleansingguide.com/nutra-prime-cleanse/ by Gibsaki on graphicdesign.SE
 
@SurajRao That's what we understand. However, it can be a hint to other users as to them needing to visit the question to flag.
 
A J
they should be banned anyway now.
 
sd k
 
@AJ no, 11 rejects and 23 approvals, so 11 - 23/3 = 3.333 < 5.
 
A J
7:25 AM
mod flagged anyway.
let's see how they respond to it.
I am keeping an eye on them.
once in a while
 
Hi @cigikath there was some noise around your Academia post. I think it's sorted out now. There is a residual comment there, which I now flagged.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: Does Bella Nu Skin Cream Work? by Bella Nu Skin Cream on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: regex for match following String in java by Ranjith on stackoverflow.com
 
JAD
@SmokeDetector f
 
sd f
 
JAD
@SmokeDetector k
 
7:31 AM
An invitation to play regex golf.
 
JAD
while it is a terrible question, I'm not sure if it is exactly unclear
 
@JAD too broad would have likely been better, but regardless, should still be closed imo
 
@JAD it really was until somebody edited the formatting into shape
 
JAD
@tripleee and it was closed after the edit.
 
@JAD 3 close votes cast before the edit win over the latter 2, whatever they were.
I know there were three because I was the 3rd
 
7:41 AM
@JAD it's not unusual for votes to be cast on what was visible when the voter loaded the page, rather than the absolutely latest edit
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Tryvexan : Boosts up the production of free testosterone by user16370 on interpersonal.SE
 
Why is metasmoke turned off?
 
@gparyani Read up from here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/43837397#43837397 I'm not exactly sure why Undo shut it down
 
JAD
the AWS thing sounds like an explanation
this looks somewhat spammy: stackoverflow.com/questions/49687507/…
 
@JAD doesn't look like self promotion but my spam detection skills are a bit off since y'day
I guess linking to a GitHib repo with code to solve a coding issue ins't that bad?
 
7:52 AM
... especially if they're not affiliated with said repo
 
JAD
well, replacing isn't exactly solving the question, but sure.
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs the general rule for 'does <x> rely on MS' is yes. Unless if it's Smokey, where the answer is sorta.
 
@gparyani John responded to your meta on IPS
 
SPAM (the userscript) works without metasmoke.
 
@Magisch ... as a response to "why is MS off"?
 
7:56 AM
@tripleee No but I know he's in this chat and it seemed like something he'd like to hear about
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Odoo 10 server boostrap error by Rohit Ramnani on stackoverflow.com
 
@Magisch sure, just teasing you (-:
@SmokeDetector f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: www.click2trial.com/plant-pure-turmeric-forskolin/ by BrandonHead on drupal.SE
 
careful or I'll throw one of your e's
 
doublee
 
7:57 AM
eeek
 
It looks like someone tried to create a duplicate account in my name last night and some mods went and downvoted all my questions -- is there anything I can do to prevent that from happening again?
 
@cigikath not really no, post a meta showing evidence and it'll be rectified I guess?
 
This is my post, it references this chat, which is why I'm posting here: academia.stackexchange.com/questions/107655/…
 
generally "can I make people not impersonate me" gets the answer "no"
 
@cigikath sadly, no. Here, have a compensation upvote.
 
7:58 AM
Thank you!
I'm new to SE and was a bit intimidated by the whole ordeal...
 
assuming mods downvoted you sounds fishy but I guess you just mean other users
 
@cigikath by the way, Mods generally don't downvote in revenge - (a) because that would be wrong, and (b) they have much pointer sticks they can use. Looks like it was just some random user. Hopefully the serial voting script will revert it.
 
True -- the users who commented were mods, so I assumed they might correlate with those voting
 
I think their reactions prove that this was a very rare situation for Stack Exchange standards. Thanks for staying cool.
 
It was an honest, slightly time-sensitive question, so I hope your upvotes will help unbury the question and get me some answers -- thank you!
 
8:02 AM
Oh, dang
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Exporting contacts from Android to Gmail account by Earp Support on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
prepares PR to watch that website
 
Someone posted an answer on SFF under my account. I really, REALLY, hope it was my little brother
@Glor I think I got Marshal on Apple.SE. You're working for me now.
 
o_O
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Is there a list of "pieces" all the kanjis are made of? by Alexey Yunoshev on japanese.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)
 
8:04 AM
@WELZ Haha, nice :p
 
@SmokeDetector I guess that's relevant
@SmokeDetector N
 
I've suggested an edit adding disclosure.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: 6 exerc ERX Pro es for high-quality sex by ewbs on askubuntu.com
 
@tripleee I have thrown Kyll hundreds of times :p
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
8:06 AM
@SmokeDetector Ugh >_<
The site ad made me click the spam link twice
@SmokeDetector K
 
@tripleee could you approve this please?
 
I just realized he has revealed his name: Trip Lee E.
Although a Lee middle name is kinda weird
 
she isn't famous enough to have an English article
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Sounds like you should change your password jic
Again, my whole reasoning of why SE should offer two factor auth
 
My password is "not strong enough".
 
8:12 AM
What? abc123 isn't a strong pw?
 
@Glorfindel I guess I can hand-merge it and !!/pull, if that's what you want?
 
@Glorfindel Huh? 'letmein' is definitely a strong password
 
A J
@Henders I don't get the joke
 
@tripleee eh ... yeah. I assumed !!/watch wouldn't work without metasmoke, but what's the preferred way of doing watches now?
 
@AJ Henders's name elsewhere is sulphur dioxide
 
8:14 AM
@Glorfindel I think it works for code admins, which is why some of the requests went thru last night and others didn't.... But I don't think !!/approve works
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Can't get all LONGTEXT field content in php query by user141245 on wordpress.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@Glorfindel merging it with just !!/approve will probably fail because that requires MS, but a hand merge (click "merge", wait for CI, !!/pull) should still work; I'm in the process of doing that now
 
turns out we rely a lot on ms
 
so actually !!/watch does create a PR but we can't smoothly merge them simply with an !!/approve
as long as you're not privileged to have watches auto-merged by Smoke Detector, which again then fails for MS reasons
!!/pull
 
8:17 AM
Restart: API quota is 18264.
 
nnno?
oh it's not getting merged to deploy ...?
not exactly sure how that is supposed to work -- I'll leave it this way for now unless there are pressing needs to get this into production ASAP
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer, blacklisted user: Can't get all LONGTEXT field content in php query by user141245 on wordpress.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
JAD
@SmokeDetector k
 
@tripleee no hurry.
 
8:20 AM
@tripleee MS also transfers commits from master to deploy
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
We can probably remove that - we don't use the two branches like we originally intended anyway
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body: Mean Variance pref by Nav89 on math.SE
 
@SmokeDetector tp-
(removed by author)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: The cinnamon ERX Pro a natural aphrod ERX Pro by ewbs on apple.SE
 
8:30 AM
@angussidney Hopefully the serial voting script will revert it. – This is nothing that could be detected by the serial-voting script.
 
Aside from the API keys, is there any other reason that MS couldn't be controlled by more people than just undo?
 
@Wrzlprmft I know that, but some positive language never hurts :)
@Henders Maybe passwords for email-based login
 
(And obviously Undo is doing an amazing job but exhausting a team member is always something to be avoided if we can spread the load)
 
Not sure what the rules are regarding GH keys
By the way, ping me if you need a failover Smokey instance at some point, I can take mine out of standby
 
@Henders The authentication tokens used to login into SE for auto flagging (and are permitted for other things as wel) are things that shouldn't be exposed
 
8:36 AM
@Ferrybig that's what we're talking about when we say API keys
 
Having a bus factor that's higher than 1 is usually really hard to do
 
I've been trying to figure out how hard exactly it would be to protect them while still allowing us to scale Metasmoke properly, but so far I don't really have a good idea
 
@tripleee I don't think this works outside of giving the keys to select few others as well
 
big players like banks etc obviously need to have something like this in place, we should be able to figure out something good enough for our needs
 
which would require re-sign up of everyone for SE auth / autoflagging
 
8:37 AM
Separate the autoflagging module from the rest of metasmoke?
 
@Ferrybig That's the API keys I'm talking about. I'm trying to determine what the blockers are for us to take pressure off undo and have MS being a bit more resilient.
 
@tripleee From what I know from a bank I worked at briefly they have a 6 eye principle where no single sysadmin can access anything alone, at least 3 at a time are required, but there are like 12-15 in total
 
@Glorfindel Yeah, that's what I was thinking if those keys are the only thing stopping anyone else using it.
 
(thinking out loud here) something like an encrypted key which you can unlock but not directly acccess with your own key?
 
@Magisch we can always do this. Contact everyone via superping. If you don't respond to a superping.... then you're not going to notice that you're not getting flags
@tripleee the concern is not 'who can abuse it', it's simply that in the original agreement for autoflagging we implied that only Undo would have access to this stuff
 
8:40 AM
@tripleee I think separate flagging servers would be a way to do this, and those separate flagging servers are in control of moderators, and don't share information, and MS just knows what users are on which flagging servers, since you can only flag, instead of having all permissions, its more safe, and those flagging servers could reject if the load suddenly spikes up to more than 50% of normal to protect against hacked MS instances, or broken code itself
 
okay, how about "make Undo type in a password to activate this module, but allow us to run the rest of Metasmoke without him doing that"?
 
@tripleee You'd still have to have a process that is capable of accessing and using the API keys on someone's server where that someone isn't undo
 
And if you restricted it, you'd also remove 99% of the advantages gained
 
Undo isn't here right now, his AWS instance is theoretically available for AWS to inspect
 
@Ferrybig 'In control of moderators' is still too open because the conditions that we gained their API key says 'only Undo'. Unless, as angussidney says, we request additional consents from them.
 
8:43 AM
The most workable solution to this that I can think of is to make it so 3 or 4 people have all the metasmoke stuff, and then have everyone re-auth
 
we could lose 80% of our autoflaggers and it would still be useful so my suggestion is let's go for it
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Hollywood Undead Live Go Over & Photos by achelwles on graphicdesign.SE
 
@Henders Also, I'd be nervous putting so much control in the hands of mods. This is a system that requires a lot of in-knowledge to make it work properly.
@tripleee superpings are the answer
 
Some mods have no real workable knowledge of spamfighting on SE - they're on smaller sites and not really exposed to it a lot
And you can't expect every mod to have working knowledge of MSE minutiae
 
I think that's currently the best solution - get everyone to re-auth under a new agreement, and maybe add some things e.g. to allow us to vote in a new person
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8:45 AM
@tripleee also, we are not short of autoflaggers. Never have been.
 
We don't have any sort of strict organizational structure, that makes this a lot harder
Just us in the room would be enough to sustain autoflags across the network
 
I would agree with that. This assumes that there is nothing else which would prohibit this though.
 
@Glorfindel exactly, we are fine even if we were temporarily down to 20% of our current capacity
 
We opened it up to gain some community buy-in and allow others to participate, not because we really lack flaggers
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anybody wanna write this up on Teams?
 
8:47 AM
This is something that should go on GH IMO
 
@tripleee I can give it a shot
 
@angussidney instead of voting in a new person, why don't we just grant access to all current admins in the new agreement?
 
@AshishAhuja What if we get new admins?
 
@AshishAhuja I mean we'd definitely do that, but we'd also add a clause like 'we will follow <x> and <y> process to give additional people access if we ever need to in the future. If you disagree, <here> is where you can reuqest that we disable your account if new people get access'
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@angussidney ah, okay.
@Magisch I meant the admins which exist right now.
 
8:52 AM
@AshishAhuja 'right now' variable not 'right now' as in 1523004734
 
Ignoring who's running MS and how much it goes down, I think we need to stop panicking as much as we do now. Yes, quite a few things break, and we lose a little data, but is it really that much of a problem? Most of the broken stuff is for convenience only. Any admin can manually add stuff to the blacklist. Believe it or not, you can also flag posts without FIRE. Smokey gets a little flaky, but that's easily managed. Our core functionality is working and that's what matters.
I'm not saying that we don't have some major issues that need fixing (because we do), but it's not nice for @Undo to wake up to 100 pings (real and jokes) and several hours of seemingly angry transcript just because we can't be patient.
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^ that's just one thing that I've wanted to say
 
A J
@Henders Reminds me a joke.
 
So I am not understanding why permission levels can't be granted in MS. Most of the general maintenance issues could be resolved without having access to cause real harm with the API keys. Undo can have the permission level for managing keys, but a few others can have lower permissions for everything else.
 
@angussidney I think big part of this is how reliant we've all gotten on the house of cards built ontop of the house of cards
 
Also, none of the people in here are guilty of this, but I find it annoying when people ignore the big pinned message in the starboard and proceed to ask 'what's wrong with MS?'
 
8:55 AM
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs that's definitely not an impossible plan either but releasing Undo's grip on things is also a step towards scalability and improved resilience, and besides, probably technically easier to implement
 
@tripleee exactly
 
@angussidney I agree with this. Part of the reason that I brought this up is because the last thing we want is someone so integral to the project to grow weary because of pings and MS going down. If we can remove any of those issues, that's a benefit from where I'm sitting.
 
We're also under a lot more scrutiny now
Even if everything is working fine we get criticism based on reliability
 
@Magisch yeah, I'm not denying there's a problem with that :)
@Henders yeah - this is a good type of conversation to be having. I just don't think that Undo would like it when we have hours of 'Wake up Undo, my userscript isn't working, I have to click 4 times to flag instead of 2'
 
I'm sure it must become a chore.
 
9:01 AM
Wait... Undo likes sleep?
 
@angussidney I'd argue there's a systemic problem if only undo can make most of our tools work
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I think we have evidence to the contrary, it's only circumstantial but there's a lot of it
 
@Magisch yes, I agree, there is a problem
But we should leave our complaints to when everything is working again and stress levels are back down, that's all I'm saying
I'll be back in about half an hour
Also @Undo I hope you don't mind me assuming what you would/wouldn't appreciate - let me know if you want me to shut up :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, username similar to website in answer: How to create a rule to flag users when they're approved as a Trusted Contact? by dompetpoker on drupal.SE
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
9:11 AM
@SmokeDetector why
 
Body - Position 545-557: poker online, Position 750-760: agen poker, Position 859-870: situs poker, Position 959-969: agen poker, Position 1066-1076: agen poker
Post - Username similar to website
 
A J
!!/watch dompetpoker\.net
 
uhhh ... I guess that too fails now that Metasmoke is completely offline, because it wants to know whether you are privileged or not
 
A J
I know. I am just using that command, so someone can add it to watchlist manually.
 
@AJ I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Phone number detected in body, phone number detected in title: Why the Coinbase customer support 1(855)750-0786 is always busy? by K.markam on bitcoin.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: simp3.xyz/manwaa-october-mp3-song-download/ by gargreene on astronomy.SE
 
9:19 AM
@SmokeDetector f I think
 
@SmokeDetector k support.coinbase.com has a different number
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
thx
 
9:24 AM
uh, linking to more spam might not be the way to go
 
A J
should we retract spam flags then? @Glorfindel
 
Custom flags might be better, yes.
 
A J
Hmm I retracted it
but we should rethink about it
check this
same thing under different username
 
are you thinking scam spam should not be flagged as spam? or what?
 
A J
I am kinda confused here
I am not sure if that user is a victim of fraud or trying to promote a support number being used for scams.
 
9:30 AM
10% he's that dumb, 90% he's playing dumb.
 
A J
the more I search, more I get confused.
 
A J
we shouldn't have retracted our flags
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: reCAPTCHA v2 for Joomla 2.5 by Muhammet Çakıcı on joomla.SE
 
@AJ I've mod flagged with a link to the older question you found. Should suffice.
 
A J
9:36 AM
I think we should keep this number under watch.
@Glorfindel I flagged one too.
 
@AJ I'll push it, we can !!/pull when things are working again
 
A J
@tripleee ok cool
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: expulsion of abundance fat from by Nathanaeoreno on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
A J
@SmokeDetector k
This number is really a scam. I searched for it to 2nd page on Google
 
9:49 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, potentially bad keyword in body: Jet Pro X Review: Boost Testosterone, Read Benefits, Price and Buy by Jet Pro X on askubuntu.com
 
Yes, we all agree on that. Our doubts are if this is a spammer or a victim.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: www.thegarciniaeliteslim.com/luna-trim/ by indaima on graphicdesign.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
given the two we flagged and the third you found, this should probably be blacklisted even, but I'll defer that for now
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Is it possible to Modify HTML content in Liferay by bernieg on stackoverflow.com
 
9:52 AM
@SmokeDetector f
 
not sure really, the Arabic looked vaguely like odd lorem ipsum
google translate: *"That the presence of a tree near the almond husk directly had a reason in the name of the eye, and evidenced by the eye of the village in the village of Al-Qadeh named for the presence of palm tree, one of the types of palm trees in Qatif.*
*The bathroom has a rectangular room located along the spring of the eye. This room has square or square openings, which are used to put luggage and clothes. They are called "Rosanna". Along the room there are places to sit and rest called dikes or checkers. They are used to wait in times of crowding on the bathroom. The shower attend
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title: How to get CEH Certification without Training? by Timothyweah on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
@Glorfindel I disagree - I k'ed it. It was trolling in a reaction to downvotes. And it was the second post of the kind.
@SmokeDetector f
 
JAD
@SmokeDetector k
sneaky sneaky link in there
 
10:01 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: ERX Pro alternatives are in ERX Pro by oqqvaile on askubuntu.com
 
A J
@JAD Have you ever seen link with a single character as anchor tag?
 
is MS down?
 
@Federico yes, see starboard to the right and extended discussions around one hour ago
 
ah, ok, sorry
 
A J
lol
that was rude. :P
 
10:07 AM
bonjour
 
the starboard really isn't working very well; I certainly cannot see it in my normal view because the [tag:plastic-knives] etc are taking up the majority of the right sidebar
 
ugh... why did everything burn down while I was sleeping?
is there any TL;DR?
 
good for you, really
 
A J
@ByteCommander सुप्रभात (Suprabhat) ;)
 
@ByteCommander yes, see starboard to the right and extended discussions around one hour ago
 
10:09 AM
@tripleee It would be nice to have a small banner at the top of the chat window
 
A J
@tripleee I think you should also pin this message. :P
 
sighs, starts digging though transcript...
 
@Henders I guess a scheduled event would serve that pretty nicely ...?
 
Then it would show up on Chat.SE and bring lots of random people
 
ugh, okay, scratch that
 
A J
10:11 AM
create a bookmark and pin its link
 
4 hours ago, by Undo
I'm just shutting it down for tonight. Have to get some sleep
 
@tripleee it would be nice if we could have some sort of US which removes the tags, room description and the user list for rooms the user chooses...
 
"we might turn on Metasmoke again" as an event today at 18:00 UTC would not attract too many curious visitors, though ...?
@AshishAhuja oooh fancy
or rather, we could make them sane by default and have a userscript for those with large screens who prefer to maintain the status quo 8-p
 
I was planning at some point to create some sort of charcoal-theme userscript/stylish script
Put our branding colours over the top of the default styling, customise some things for Smokey etc
 
10:28 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: The edat of Korach? How to define the word edat here? by Sushil on judaism.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Resolver problema com o Docker para Windows by Senio Caires on pt.stackoverflow.com
 
actually... does feedback have any effect while MS is down?
 
@ByteCommander generally speaking no
 
It blacklists users on the local Smokey
 
10:33 AM
oh yeah, true
 
ah, ok. So we should still be giving it.
@SmokeDetector f
 
Helios will be good when it starts working
I've heard that only MS work is left
Might be worth talking to Andy and seeing if there's any lower-hanging fruit that an inexperienced Rails programmer can try
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Old Man Logan - how did the Hulk end up as a villain? by galen jennings on scifi.SE (@Mithrandir)
 
@SmokeDetector this one is very aggressive and still needs more flags
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: NEET Answer Key of previous papers - Check Here by Tripti Khandal on stackoverflow.com
 
10:36 AM
@tripleee sigh
 
@Henders sigh
 
So much hate... :/
 
the 1920s called and wanted their attitude back ... "also we hear you have a US President which is really ours"
 
10:38 AM
So AIM's deletion watcher also gets its data from MS, right? not directly from the main site...
 
A J
@tripleee sigh
 
JAD
@AJ I think that's actually close to a reason for smokey
 
JAD
@Glorfindel ah, I was thinking of this one: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +7 more: healthonlinereviews.com/wrinkle-couture/ by katefoxx on askubuntu.com
 
A J
10:47 AM
@Henders I don't get why hate them.
 
JAD
@SmokeDetector k
 
A J
@SmokeDetector k
 
I was trying to import the Metasmoke dump I got from Art into my Docker but I get a weird error message
ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 28: Can't create table `metasmoke`.`api_keys` (errno: 150 "Foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed")
it works if I import into metasmoke_test instead so the syntax is fine
I guess it means I need to back out the Metasmoke@localhost user I created ...?
or is it related to MySQL vs MariaDB compatibility somehow perhaps?
dbahire.com/how-to-install-mysql-server-on-debian-stretch <- is this worth the effort for the Dockerfile?
 
11:04 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Remove 'Switch to plain text editor' in CKEdtior by Inigo joseph on drupal.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: How to Check SSC Result 2018? by SSC Result 2018 on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)
 
A J
we should watch "SSC Result" keyword.
suggested edit from the same user
 
11:16 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Phone number detected in title: GET??SERVICES?? 24/7 1?844?479?2863? Amazon Prime Refund? by JAMES5415 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Rejuvalex These can be found at most wellbeing sustenance stores by henryjhon724 on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
A J
@tripleee They don't have to be under my name. They just need to be under watch. :)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@AJ the ownership isn't really important anyway, just deflecting blame (-:
 
A J
haha. :P
 
11:26 AM
Is metasmoke down for anyone else? The connection just times out (other websites work fine though)
 
see the starboard
 
@tripleee If you didn't check it yet, my spamtracker userscript still works properly without MS, and if you turn off the FIRE userscript for now, it will open the reports in a new tab (initially implemented so the script would work independent)
 
11:49 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Chance of getting home safe? by sonamwsingh on math.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, username similar to website in answer: Taskbar running-program icon rightclick broken for Razer Synapse Windows 10 by techmen on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector k
 

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