Mathematics - 2012-05-07 (page 6 of 9)

Peter Tamaroff

8:00 PM

@Gigili Hey! Not really, now it says "Nominations close in 1 minute.".

Eric Gregor

the great moderator election of 2012. the sense of tension is palpable

t.b.

I like the fact that they replaced the usual "just now" by something nicer here :)

The Chaz

For those who were here for previous elections, what happens now, in terms of campaigning/meta/etc?

Eric Gregor

we've entered the baby kissing phase

t.b.

There's going to be this town hall chat and then some discussion on that.

The Chaz

8:04 PM

Oh yes. 5 hours

t.b.

It already starts in 5 hours?

Eric Gregor

is this a primary then?

The Chaz

Or a week and 5 hours?
I just saw "monday"... [here](http://meta.math.stackexchange.com/questions/4137/2012-moderator-election-town-hall-chat-monday-9pm-edt-tuesday-1am-utc)

Peter Tamaroff

To those running for mod.... will you vote yourselves?

user19161

OK I cast my votes! I changed my mind last minute, and I'll keep it secret!

robjohn

8:05 PM

@tb Yes, I have a conflict with that time :-( but I will see what I can do.

Gigili

@ClarkKent What's the point of mentioning it then?

Peter Tamaroff

Or maybe better phrased. Do you think it is OK to vote yourself?

user19161

@Gigili For fun...

Gigili

@ClarkKent Funneh.

t.b.

Gigili

8:07 PM

@PeterTamaroff What's the point of voting for ourselves? That way each of us will have an extra vote which is useless.

user19161

I also noticed Bill submitted his nomination last minute.

Fortuon Paendrag

I was about to bring that up, @t.b.

Peter Tamaroff

I see.

Fortuon Paendrag

A remarkable coincidence.

Gigili

Is it even possible?

t.b.

8:08 PM

Are enough 20k+-people here? We need to delete 12 questions! I missed the 50k'th

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user19161

@PeterTamaroff Does the system allow that?

user19161

@tb No prize for the lucky asker!

Peter Tamaroff

@ClarkKent It certainly does.

user19161

@PeterTamaroff Then of course you should vote for yourself. Why run if you don't want to win?

Peter Tamaroff

It seems like it, at least.

user19161

8:09 PM

It only makes sense to vote for yourself as first choice.

Gigili

Umm ...

Doesn't make sense to me.

user19161

@Gigili Well, my sense is different from your sense. QED.

robjohn

@tb Huzzah!

Gigili

Why there are three choices?

user19161

It will all be computed by some formula.

Gigili

8:11 PM

@ClarkKent You should have waited for THC, /me thinks.

user19161

@Gigili What is THC?

The Chaz

Chemical in weed

Peter Tamaroff

@Gigili Weed?

robjohn

@ClarkKent I saw that :-)

The Chaz

Sheesha

Maryjane

Herb

Pot

Peter Tamaroff

8:12 PM

@TheChaz Maconia

The Chaz

Chronic

Gigili

@ClarkKent Town Hall Chat.

@PeterTamaroff Exactly.

user19161

I also took into account when I changed my mind who tried to run in the previous election.

Peter Tamaroff

@Gigili Tetrahidrocannabinol. =)

t.b.

@robjohn Maybe it's a good omen, Mariano didn't participate either.

user19161

8:13 PM

People running multiple times deserve a better chance.

Gigili

@PeterTamaroff That, too.

t.b.

In any case: good luck to all the candidates! Thanks for volunteering.

Gigili

Thank you, Tee-Bee.

The Chaz

@tb I thought he is a mod?

Peter Tamaroff

@tb If I happen to get a spot, I'll toast with homemade cinnamon rolls.

t.b.

8:14 PM

@TheChaz well, he became one last year :)

Gigili

@PeterTamaroff Good for you.

The Chaz

So that's why my composition teachers detest "be" verbs :)

Peter Tamaroff

@Gigili Or maybe pancackes. They seem too difficult to bake.

@TheChaz "I thought he was a mod."

The Chaz

Same problem. is/was/will be!

Peter Tamaroff

FTS

Gigili

8:16 PM

@PeterTamaroff Chocolate cookies, please.

The Chaz

"He occupies the moderator position..."

David K.

Heyo!

Peter Tamaroff

@Gigili Do you really trust the UPS delivery guy?

robjohn

@tb so far my efforts to shuffle the schedule here have failed miserably.

Peter Tamaroff

@robjohn Arent we having a chat today around 10?

robjohn

8:18 PM

@PeterTamaroff I:00 UTC. That is 6:00 PM here. Don't nkow what your timezone is.

Gigili

@PeterTamaroff I don't have any choice on the matter.

t.b.

@robjohn oh, no. But I don't think it's that serious. You're present enough here for all those who seriously want to ask you specifically. Of course, it'd be nicer if you could participate.

N3buchadnezzar

diskusjon.no/…

Peter Tamaroff

@robjohn It's 5:20 here right NOW.

N3buchadnezzar

Gigili

8:20 PM

@robjohn 0600 PM is just perfect.

N3buchadnezzar

This is like me and physics.

robjohn

@PeterTamaroff Then the chat would be 10:00 PM there.

Peter Tamaroff

That's what I said.

I should have been mor explicit

robjohn

@Gigili It would be if I didn't have to be somewhere where I can't be chatting...

t.b.

@TheChaz Just to make sure because you had me confused: what I wrote is grammatically correct and unambiguous, isn't it?

The Chaz

8:22 PM

Yes. I went off on a few tangents (normals).

t.b.

pfuuh

thanks!

The Chaz

But I was confused about your previous comment on his participation (or lack thereof)

t.b.

That's the one I meant: I intended to say: Mariano didn't participate in last year's town hall chat and nevertheless he became a mod.

N3buchadnezzar

I have made my votes

Is whom we voted for supposed to be hush-hush ?

The Chaz

oic

@N3buchadnezzar No idea. I was wondering if anyone would care to hear my thoughts on each.

With or without stating my votes.

t.b.

8:26 PM

I think it's everyone's own call...

Joe Stavitsky

hey guys... if I multiply a complex by a real, what happens to the imaginary part?

The Chaz

It gets scaled by that real number.

t.b.

it get's multiplied by that real...

The Chaz

What he said.

t.b.

$t(a+bi) = ta + tb i$

The Chaz

8:27 PM

Now it all makes sense... "tb" is a scaled complex component!

t.b.

I'm your imaginary part, yes. Didn't notice that before?

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N3buchadnezzar

I gave Robjohn my vote, cause he is so kind and fluffy =) Big kudos to RobJohn

The Chaz

Hah! Oh good times in the chat room.

Eric Gregor

also voted for robjohn

Zhen Lin

Hmmm, I have just discovered that my reason for believing that the cotangent bundle is a symplectic manifold is ill-founded.

t.b.

8:30 PM

$d(p dq) = \cdots$

Joe Stavitsky

cool ty

Peter Tamaroff

Does anyone here speak spanish?

mixedmath

yes - why?

The Chaz

@N3buchadnezzar mixedmath, robjohn, and Eric are the three "safe bets" for me, though I will probably vote a different subset of the nominees.

t.b.

yeah, just shoot @PeterTamaroff

The Chaz

8:32 PM

Dispare

Peter Tamaroff

Che boludo, no sabés. Se quedó la chata en la loma del orto, y nos quedamos en bolas. (LOL)

Zhen Lin

@tb Ah, thanks. What I had in mind needed a decomposition of $T(T^*M)$ into horizontal and vertical components and I didn't see how to get a natural splitting...

skullpatrol

@tb How many languages are you fluent in?

Peter Tamaroff

AFAIK, 3

t.b.

@skullpatrol Something between three to four, depends on how you count.

Peter Tamaroff

8:34 PM

However, I think he'll have a fun time translating that last sentence. It's slang, on purpose.

The Chaz

I noticed, Peter!

Peter Tamaroff

@TheChaz So....? =D

The Chaz

So I figured you'd explain if you wanted me to reply :)

N3buchadnezzar

^^

t.b.

@PeterTamaroff heh, you want me to translate that?! Out of my league. It's very hard to translate from a foreign language into another one especially that

Peter Tamaroff

8:37 PM

@TheChaz Oh! It is something like. "Dude, you won't believe this. Our SUV broke down really far away from here, and we are completely stranded" ("en bolas" would literally mean "naked".

Wait, "chata" is not SUV, it is rather a countryside jeep.

The Chaz

I was about to say that :D

(Actually, i was thinking about horchata)

mixedmath

which immediately makes me think of Vampire Weekend

Peter Tamaroff

Sounds more mexican than argentine.

Gigili

Umm, @, for example, @tb: Do you think it's a good idea to bring up the old feud?

Zhen Lin

... actually, why doesn't the 0 section of a vector bundle $E \to M$ automatically give a splitting of $T E$ into $E \oplus T M$?

The Chaz

8:39 PM

@PeterTamaroff It is, afaik

t.b.

@Gigili what's the old feud? Sorry, I must have missed something.

Peter Tamaroff

You should get this book.

Gigili

@tb I have to answer the new question on meta which is about suspension.

Peter Tamaroff

Here's a nice article on the book.

@Gigili Me too, then!

Gigili

Never mind, I did.

Peter Tamaroff

8:43 PM

@TheChaz You should really read the second link. It is short, and you'll probably like it.

The Chaz

Fair enough

user19161

Wow, now there are three rows of chat users.

user19161

It seldom happens in this room.

skullpatrol

More often lately...

Eric Gregor

why did Asaf leave? i wasn't so active in chat then, i just remember he mysteriously (to me) left

Peter Tamaroff

8:47 PM

@skullpatrol Do you change your avatar each day?

skullpatrol

@EricGregor conflict of egos

user19161

@PeterTamaroff He's following in my footsteps. :-)

N3buchadnezzar

'i have never changed mine

Eric Gregor

@skullpatrol whose egos?

t.b.

@Gigili actually, I haven't figured out what you mean concerning suspension.

N3buchadnezzar

8:48 PM

I really like mine

skullpatrol

@PeterTamaroff yes

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar I don't even know what it is.

Peter Tamaroff

@skullpatrol Why so?

N3buchadnezzar

A girl shooting her head of, and the blood turns into butterflies

skullpatrol

@EricGregor my ego is bigger than yours

@PeterTamaroff creativity

Matt N.

8:49 PM

@tb Thanks, it's ok. I made them ask the question on main : )

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar off

Matt N.

Dinner win. : )

Eric Gregor

@skullpatrol to my credit. do i really have to go digging through chat archives?

Gigili

@tb This

skullpatrol

@EricGregor no, who cares why

AbstractionOfMe

8:51 PM

I'm reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Analysis-Dover-Books-Mathematics/dp/0486469131/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1336423809&sr=8-4">this</a> and he defines a linear ordering as comparable

N3buchadnezzar

@ClarkKent ?

t.b.

@MattN sounds great! Already done?

Matt N.

@tb Yes. : ) I cooked for 5 people though, we ended up stuffed! (we were only 3, couldn't eat it all : D)

t.b.

@Gigili thanks and thanks for being that honest there. You could have made it a little clearer that it was only a chat room thing, not on the main site or am I misreading?

Gigili

@tb Ah yes, thank you and thank you.

Matt N.

8:53 PM

Hahahahahaha OMGWTFLOLBBQ

Surreal!

mixedmath

what?

Matt N.

Wat?

Peter Tamaroff

Do you think rar has a point in here?