Mathematics - 2012-05-07 (page 5 of 9)

The Chaz

5:00 PM

Consider away.

Gigili

I was waiting for your permission.

Bill Dubuque

One of the problems with simple ubiquitous exercises like this is that it is quite possible that someone could have encountered self-learning in a textbook at the same time that some variant is posted on some online competition. Should we refuse to answer the question simply because it is in competion elsewhere? It's a complex issue.

J. M.

@BillDubuque The assumption of good faith is always our default, don't you agree?

John Smith

I've run into that issue multiple times

J. M.

Of course, we will always make mistakes in reading people...

Brian M. Scott

5:03 PM

Why is it that it's always my complicated set theory answers that force me to verify that I'm human?

The Chaz

@JM: Do you know why your handle is the only one in blue (rather than black) on the left of the chat?

(For me at least)

anon

He's a mod.

J. M.

@TheChaz I'm a mod on another SE site.

The Chaz

Ahh. Good to know :)

Bill Dubuque

@JM As you probably know, my personal viewpoint is quite liberal. But to make sure the community functions smoothly it is essential that those interested in these matters are made aware of all the complexities, and that we can treat them in a way that represents all fairly. This may be difficult to do with only a few mods, but with more coming I think we can be more successful handling such issues.

J. M.

5:05 PM

@BrianMScott ...you should maybe consider asking Asaf first if he bumps into these things. ;)

Brian M. Scott

@JM Good thought.

John Smith

Can anyone direct me to other math chatrooms/sites/etc where people discuss number theory?

I've tried via Google and was unable to really find anything other than the SE sites

anon

Like, pure number theory? What was your question again?

John Smith

doesn't matter

it's about counting subsets

J. M.

@anon he was taking subsets of a set of integers satisfying a recurrence relation...

anon

5:06 PM

Ah.

Brian M. Scott

@anon Project Euler problem 382.

Antonio Vargas

@JohnSmith There are definitely a few people here who know a bit about number theory.

John Smith

I've constructed/collected a lot of data intrinsic to the problem but I'm having difficulty figuring out the recurrence

@Antonio Everyone I have asked has absolutely no clue how to even get on the right track with the problem

Antonio Vargas

Then I guess all hope is lost!

;)

t.b.

@BrianMScott the human verification routine is pretty dumb. I don't think it was the case in this instance, but one of the criteria is that it took the answerer especially long (whatever the reason is).

Gigili

5:11 PM

@tb I think it is it. Only once happened to me because I had the window opened for a long time while writing an answer.

Brian M. Scott

@tb That would certainly correlate positively with the complicated set theory answers.

John Smith

Are the SE sites the main ones in terms of open math discussion?

anon

Whenever I get the verification thing I mutter to myself some "trusted user" I am... :)

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Eric Gregor

can someone explain in words the relationship between the smoothness of a function and the vanishing of that function's fourier transform?

J. M.

@anon I seem to recall there was a promise that they'd make these CAPTCHA checks less likely to occur at sufficiently high rep, but...

@JohnSmith Well, questions get answered there, yes...

Eric Gregor

5:15 PM

@JM we have to make sure that it isn't bots giving us all these high quality answers

Bill Dubuque

The captcha bar was raised long ago when I complained to Jeff that it was greatly encumbering me adding links to my posts. Have they changed it again? I haven't seen a captcha in a long, long time.

John Smith

Not what I am asking; I am asking if there are other well-established math communities

I asked about MO earlier but that one is apparently not appropriate

Eric Gregor

appropriate for what question?

J. M.

I'm not sure if things are still happening on Usenet these days...

John Smith

my question about subset counting

J. M.

5:17 PM

@BillDubuque Apparently you're lucky, or you type long answers fast.

Amitabh Udayiman

Sorry to interrupt but may I ask you a question about the mod elections?

Eric Gregor

if SE is not answering your question you can probably try on math overflow saying that the question has been up here for 5 days, put a bounty on it and got nothing, so maybe it's an interesting question after all...

Bill Dubuque

@JM As I recall it's a rep threshold. Once you're high enough you only get them in rare instances.

J. M.

@AmitabhUdayiman What about?

Brian M. Scott

@JM Bill's answers tend to be on the shorter side, at least on the questions that I've seen.

J. M.

5:18 PM

@BrianMScott Ah, right... hints. :)

Eric Gregor

surely one of you know how to answer my question

Brian M. Scott

@EricGregor Does MO have any particular policy on Project Euler questions?

Eric Gregor

"can someone explain in words the relationship between the smoothness of a function and the vanishing of that function's fourier transform?"

@BrianMScott, didn't realize it was project euler

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

Most PE problems are off-topic on MO

Eric Gregor

that's probably not appropriate

Antonio Vargas

5:19 PM

What about AOPS?

Amitabh Udayiman

I was wondering on what parameters you will select the mod and who according to you is your choice?(seems there are two parallel discussions here thanks to me)

Eric Gregor

i think the point is that if you differentiate it's the same as multiplying the fourier transform by x, so you decrease it's rate of vanishing

i don't have any books on me so i'm trying to remember

J. M.

@EricGregor "rate of decay", you mean...

Bill Dubuque

@BrianMScott I have plenty of long answers too, many of which get edited multiple times to add links to specializations, generalizations, etc. It was this that was triggering captcha.

Eric Gregor

@jm you say potato i say stem tubers

J. M.

5:20 PM

@AmitabhUdayiman Ask five people here and you'll get five different answers...

Eric Gregor

sorry for the multiple ping

J. M.

@EricGregor No need to apologize. I wasn't pinged.

Amitabh Udayiman

@ J.M. do you mind talking about your choice then?Are you a mod?

J. M.

@AmitabhUdayiman I'm not a mod on this site.

t.b.

@EricGregor the relation is straightforward for Fourier series. The decay of the Fourier transform doesn't see that much of the function's smoothness.

Eric Gregor

5:21 PM

@JM so you agree with my characterization of the relationship?

Brian M. Scott

@BillDubuque I usually get hit on longer answers, but not when they're mostly plain English. It's this sort of answer that tends to get hit.

Eric Gregor

what do you mean by straightforward?

Amitabh Udayiman

Then anywhere you wish to talk?(like gtlak?)

J. M.

@AmitabhUdayiman why are you asking these questions on how to choose? :) Have you tried getting to know the candidates?

(e.g. by trying to look at the answers and comments they leave)

t.b.

@EricGregor If the function's $C^k$ then the Fourier coefficients decay fater than $O(1/n^{k+1})$ and if the Fourier coefficient's decay is $O(1/n^{k+1+\varepsilon})$ then the function was $C^k$ to begin with, for example.

Amitabh Udayiman

5:23 PM

@JM I am confused.

Eric Gregor

thanks @tb

t.b.

@EricGregor maybe you need to add a $+1$ or remove it, but it's the gist of it. It's not very hard to prove.

It's essentially along the lines of what you said.

J. M.

@AmitabhUdayiman My point is that how I, or anyone else, will pick their candidates should not have to be the same as yours. Look at the candidates' activity, and draw your own conclusions. "Vote with your conscience" were the words, I believe...

t.b.

@EricGregor However, the decay of the Fourier transform indicates more about the concentration of the function around the origin. Think of the transformation pairs $\delta_x \to 1$ or $e^{-x^2} \to e^{-x^2}$, for two extreme cases.

Amitabh Udayiman

@JM Thanks. Time for me to shut up. :D Thanks.

Bill Dubuque

5:27 PM

@BrianMScott That's interesting. I cannot imagine why you got a captcha on that. I've only had a few captcha's over the past half year, so perhaps it is a 50K rep threshold kicking in. Or perhaps you did a bunch of things very quickly?

t.b.

@BrianMScott I've acquired the habit of copying the post into the clipboard (or even to a file to be safe), then reloading the page, pasting the stuff and then posting.

Brian M. Scott

@BillDubuque Well, I did have the tab open for several hours with the cursor in the Answer window, if that makes a difference.

t.b.

I haven't seen a Captcha in ages.

(and I tend to write long-ish answers)

Bill Dubuque

@BrianMScott Probably not. I usually have between 20 -50 MSE tabs open (many with drafts) and sometimes revisit them after months.

Brian M. Scott

@BillDubuque Gee, that sounds familiar! :-)

J. M.

5:30 PM

@BillDubuque ...Bill, apparently there are only two hours left before the election starts. Shouldn't you be writing your nomination? :)

anon

@tb Similarly, when I feel like doing a nontrivial revamp of an old answer, I copy it and then paste it into the "Add Another Answer" field. If chrome crashes it will be able to restore anything that was written in that field, unlike in the usual edit window (for me anyway). Then when done it can be transplanted.

Bill Dubuque

@JM Yes, I am going to have to add a stub as a placeholder since I won't be able to write all I'd like to before the deadline. I should be able to flesh it out later today.

Amitabh Udayiman

@Bill Dubuque Will you really file your nomination? :D

J. M.

There really is something about being the eleventh-hour candidate...

t.b.

@anon nice, that idea didn't occur to me :) I always saved the text to my machine, and I guess I'm feeling safer this way.

Amitabh Udayiman

5:34 PM

@BillDubuque Well, if you do file it it will be nice. BTw, how does voting take place?is it anonymous?

Gigili

I cannot see the newest questions if I use the "active" page, right?

J. M.

@Gigili You can, but it's jumbled along with the edited questions...

@AmitabhUdayiman Yes, it's anonymous, as it should be.

Gigili

@JM Umm, but I don't see any.

Amitabh Udayiman

Phew, my two candidates are selected assuming BillDubuque files his nomination.

Gigili

Perhaps they're not being asked yet or something.

J. M.

5:37 PM

@Gigili We are talking about this, yes?

Gigili

@JM Yes.

J. M.

@Gigili Okay. Compare with this.

Like I said, jumbled.

Gigili

It's about 20 minutes I have it open and didn't received notifications of "(blah) new questions"

t.b.

@AmitabhUdayiman In case you're asking where to cast your vote and how: the elections page will change. You can see on the line indicating "9 candidates" that there are three tabs: "nominations", "primary", "election". It will switch from "nominations" to "primary" very soon (at the moment there's not much to see).

J. M.

@Gigili Well, it seems it's been only edits and additions in the interim.

Gigili

5:43 PM

@JM How long did it take you to write that answer? It's perfect.

Eisen

@Everyone I was thinking of nominating myself.

of course,it is weird

But wlll the fact that I am a high school student severely impact my nomination?

Everyone in fray is a knowledgeable person.

not me.

J. M.

@Gigili Counting scratchwork on paper?

Eisen

Can any experienced person please tell me if it is fair enough for me to do that?(please do not hesitate to speak your mind)

J. M.

@Gigili Wait, which answer, the CF one?

t.b.

@Eisen I don't think it would severely impact your nomination. Some of the other nominees are quite young, too. If you decide to run, good luck!

Bill Dubuque

5:47 PM

By the way, does anyone know if moderator campaign statements are editable after the nomination period ends? Does SE have any reference on this and related matters?

Eisen

Oh.Thank you.

I shall try to present an agenda.

J. M.

@Eisen "wlll the fact that I am a high school student severely impact my nomination?" - It shouldn't...

Eisen

BTw, what are those things called: The things that mods often leave when they close a question?"The question is broad ,rhetorical etc bit"

?

Gigili

@JM A new continued fraction for Apéry's constant

J. M.

@Eisen You mean the reasons?

Eisen

5:49 PM

yes.those.

anon

@BillDubuque: I'm somewhat sure that Peter T edited in the last part of his nomination. Somewhat.

J. M.

@Gigili Lessee, experimentation in Mathematica (coding included) took about half an hour, scratchwork was about half an hour (slow writer), TeX-ing up another half hour... and then the parts I added today, about a few minutes to copy from what was already in my scratchwork.

t.b.

@Eisen Do you mean the boilerplate texts? In case you want to refer to them, here's a screen shot, I hope you can read it.

Bill Dubuque

@anon My concern is if they can be edited after the nominations close (in a couple hours). I vaguely recall that they freeze at some point, but I'm not sure it it is today, or when voting starts.

anon

this was starred over at ELU

Eisen

5:53 PM

@ JM Thanks.

anon

Ah, I see. No idea then Bill.

Gigili

@JM That's great, I can hardly imagine one would put so much effort into an answer.

@anon It's called ELU.

J. M.

@Gigili Well, I like CFs, and ways to manipulate them aren't that well-known...

Gigili

The one you said is the short form of Electrical Engineering, I guess.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

@BillDubuque, you cannot edit the nomination after the nomination period ends

at least , that's what The Powers That Be just told me

J. M.

5:58 PM

@anon: in case you haven't seen it: I added plots of the prime zeta function in the complex plane to one of my older answers...

anon

Yes, I saw it.

Bill Dubuque

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Thanks a million! I'd better get moving then.

anon

That swirlie looks tantalizing.

J. M.

@anon Yeah, the behavior as you approach the imaginary axis is nuts...

So it doesn't really look like one can "resum" the primes...

Bill Dubuque

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Do you perchance know the precise time nominations end? I see only "1 hour" now, with no finer granularity.

t.b.

6:05 PM

@BillDubuque If you hover with your mouse over 1 hour it says 20:00:00Z

Bill Dubuque

@tb Thanks. That doesn't work in IE.

t.b.

@BillDubuque It's the "in 1 hour" here that works for me, not the one in the yellow banner.

user19161

@tb It's actually 1 hour and 50 more min...

t.b.

yeah

Fortuon Paendrag

Hi @Anon. Please, will you not reconsider nominating yourself one last time? I still believe that you would make an amazing moderator.

Brian M. Scott

6:12 PM

@tb It also works here, once you've loaded the MSE data. @Bill

anon

@FortuonPaendrag Sorry. Probably next year though. :)

Fortuon Paendrag

My main reason is that your neutrality in the last political upheaval that happened in this room was very praiseworthy.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

what was the last political upheaval that happened in this room?

Eisen

@ JM thanks for the encouragement.I filed mine.

user19161

@FortuonPaendrag Political upheaval?

J. M.

6:15 PM

I seem to always be absent when the party here gets wild...

(i.e. transcript link, please?)

user19161

@JM You can always read the entire transcript!

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

being born and raised in a country where actual political upheaval took place, I find it slightly amusing to see that term being used, honestly :)

Fortuon Paendrag

I mean the incident when Asaf left, when everyone was talking about it, taking sides, making statements.

J. M.

@FortuonPaendrag I wouldn't call it an upheaval. A kerfuffle, maybe...

Brian M. Scott

@JM Yep. I mostly ignored it, as I recall.

user19161

6:17 PM

@FortuonPaendrag Well, wait till you visit some other SE rooms!

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

the "Gaston and/or Julia" is funny :)

Eisen

@ JM do not know if you noticed, but I pinged you.

user19161

@Eisen You have an extra space.

J. M.

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez in OP's defence, at least it's clustered in his/her memories... :)

user19161

You need to use @jm and not @ jm to ping him.

J. M.

6:18 PM

@Eisen I didn't get pinged, but I noticed. No problem.

Fortuon Paendrag

@ClarkKent Really? they get worse?

J. M.

@ClarkKent I'm immune to ordinary pings. :)

user19161

@FortuonPaendrag What I mean is not worse or better. I just mean that there are things that are infinitely more dramatic going on in some other rooms...

t.b.

@JM soami :) somebody mentioned the theory that you need three alphanumeric characters for the system to work

J. M.

@tb we are kinsmen indeed... :)

user19161

6:19 PM

Oh you mean @jm doesn't work in chat?

J. M.

@ClarkKent No, it does not.

user19161

So @tb also does not work.

t.b.

nope

user19161

Then the autocomplete should not show these.

user19161

It is misleading.

user19161

6:20 PM

No wonder the mod f'x could not be pinged either.

Eisen

@Everyone when do nominations close.It says 1 hr.

user19161

Because @fx does not work.

J. M.

@ClarkKent Yes, guy's got immunity too.

t.b.

@Eisen 20:00 UTC, that is in a little more than 1.5 hours (you can't edit your text afterwards)

And for the record: @J. M. or @J.M. don't work either.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

I read a flag: «This answers the question, by showing how to do it right and in addition the downvote is gone, so this comment should be deleted.».
Please people, instead of flagging and saying that, add a comment right below the problematic comment, addressed to its author so that *s/he* removes it.
Be nice about it, of course.

user19161

6:23 PM

@tb But things are a bit different on the main site I think.

J. M.

@ClarkKent Yes, it's different on main.

Eisen

@t.b. I do not wish to edit it at all.I know I won't be elected going by the line up, but I decided to get it a try.

user19161

@JM So how do people ping you on the main, @jm or @j.m.?

J. M.

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez With special emphasis on the last sentence...

Brian M. Scott

@tb It's tempting to join the family, but 'BS' is so easily misconstrued ...

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J. M.

6:24 PM

@ClarkKent @J.M. works as expected on main...

user19161

@JM OK, and I think @jm does not work there.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

@BrianMScott, we had a Moron user for a while...

J. M.

@ClarkKent It used to, but not anymore.

anon

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Was that Chandru? I can't remember.

Brian M. Scott

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Took me a little while after I joined to match up Moron and Aryabhata.

anon

6:25 PM

Oh, Arya.

Fortuon Paendrag

@fortuonpaendrag is pinging reflexive?

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

I don't know really. I'm still wondering from time to time where Theo went...

J. M.

@anon No, Chandru now goes by his full given name these days...

user19161

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Mods don't know that?

anon

I know, I just don't feel like looking up his full name :)

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

6:26 PM

@ClarkKent, probably if I were suffciently motivated, yes

t.b. still sounds like a desease to me

t.b.

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez we also had an IDIOT (whom I could happily convince to change the name) and we still have a Braindead.

user19161

I thought JM=Jonas Meyer.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

heh

J. M.

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez That was Asaf's point also... :D

user19161

And I also thought Jonas Meyer=Jonas Tewen.

anon

6:28 PM

JM = Jim Moriarty

J. M.

@ClarkKent Vastly different. I'm not a professor, for one.

Brian M. Scott

@JM Holmes wants to know if you're sure of that.

J. M.

@BrianMScott ... that bastard keeps poking his nose into my business...

t.b.

yeah, those nosey guys.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

@JM, and nowadays he's cool

J. M.

6:30 PM

@tb well, there's that. :D

The Chaz

We're almost to 50,000 questions!

Gigili

@ClarkKent Umm, sounds familiar. Do we have a that user?

user19161

@Gigili Yes, of course.

Gigili

I've heard the name, I can't recall where it was.

I'm having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time.

user19161

@Gigili Wow, you actually bothered to type the e and the a correctly.

Gigili

6:35 PM

Which 'e' and which 'a'?

I think I've forgotten this before.

Zhen Lin

āçčèñṫś are easy to type on some OSes...

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

Å!

The Chaz

¡Ay caråmba!

t.b.

You TeX-savvy people. Is it acceptable to use \mathbin{\widehat{\otimes}} for the projective tensor product or is there some Spanish Inquisition I should fear?

Gigili

Oh, just recalled who was Jonas Meyer.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

6:38 PM

@tb, sure

doesn;t just \hat look better, though?

kahen

Pro-tip, @tb: You don't have to use the inner brace there. \mathbin{\widehat\otimes} will work just as well

J. M.

@Gigili "I know I've forgotten it before..."? :)

kahen

\widehat only takes one argument, so when you don't use braces, it'll just use the next thing. That's why \mathbb R produces the same as \mathbb{R}. And it's easier to type as well

t.b.

@kahen I know that and I don't like this.

Zhen Lin

I've never really understood when a_\command works and when it doesn't.

kahen

6:40 PM

it works when \command doesn't take any arguments

Zhen Lin

@tb It should work exactly as you expect.

Brian M. Scott

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Not on a symbol as wide as $\otimes$.

Zhen Lin

@kahen It also works when \command is a font command like \mathbb...

t.b.

I don't understand why people would want to write \frac12 and then painfully edit in braces because they meant \frac1{20} and then painfully edit again because they observe that they really meant \frac{11}{20}.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

@BrianMScott, I don't like wide hats not tildes

:)

Brian M. Scott

6:42 PM

But wide hats are much better protection from the sun!

@tb Since I don't often make that kind of error, I'm very happy to be able to write \frac12, \frac1n, and the like.

kahen

It's kind of annoying that there's no wide bar symbol in computer modern. So we're stuck with \overline and \bar for closure of sets. and \overline looks really bad with some letters. For example H: $\overline H$.

J. M.

Didn't see this until now... a bit of an exaggeration, but I smiled anyway.

kahen

I guess one could use \skew3 to somewhat fix it: $\skew3\overline H$

Zhen Lin

\overline is OK when there's enough vertical spacing. The trouble is the poor quality of the line itself.

Oh, you mean the horizontal alignment. Hmmm.

Brian M. Scott

@kahen That looks okay to me; a little too wide, but not all that much. But I prefer $\operatorname{cl}H$ anyway.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

6:45 PM

@kahen, there is amsmath \Bar

which is smarter

J. M.

@ZhenLin I've taken to using \overline even when I'm conjugating something a letter long myself...

Zhen Lin

\widehat and \widetilde are somehow coded to have italic correction.

@JM I don't use \bar much, it's too short.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

\Bar corrects for italics and a few other things, iirc

Gigili

@JM That's what I said? A nasty feeling indeed.

J. M.

$z\overline{z}=|z|^2$

t.b.

6:47 PM

And here on the site I tend to use ample superfluous braces because they often generate nicer spacing in my opinion. \operatorname{Hom}{(X,Y)} looks better than \operatorname{Hom}(X,Y)

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

You shoudl not do that, in fact :)

t.b.

why not?

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

because that hides the fact that ( is an open character

t.b.

what does that mean?

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

some things (\operatorname, iirc, among them) get differetn spacing when the following characer is an opening character

that is why we have \lvert and\rvert, for example

t.b.

6:49 PM

yes, and it looks ghastly

user19161

@MarianoSuárezAlvarez different, character

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

they only differ in their open/close claracter

Zhen Lin

I'm very confused about why \left( isn't automatically a \mathopen character.

Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

gotta run now

I'll let Clark to correct my typos

:)

J. M.

...and I need to be off, too. Later, y'all.

t.b.

6:50 PM

so you're telling me that I should write \sin(2\pi) instead of `\sin{(2\pi)}? That makes no sense.

Zhen Lin

I've been writing the equivalent of \sin \left( 2 \pi \right) alot, and having to deal with the annoying space.

kahen

And I refuse to believe that \DeclarePairedDelimiter\abs\lvert\rvert ("DPD" is from mathtools.sty) produces correct output. With that \sup_{x \in X} \abs{f(x)} has zero space before $\lvert f(x)\rvert$ while \sup_{x \in X} \left\lvert f(x) \right\rvert looks more like I'd think it should: $\sup_{x \in X} \left\lvert f(x) \right\rvert$.

Brian M. Scott

@tb The former produces nicer-looking output, in my opinion. But I'd prefer $\sin 2\pi$ to both of them.

Zhen Lin

Interesting. This has the right behaviour:
`f \mathopen{}\mathord{\left( x \right)}\mathclose{}, \sin \mathopen{}\mathord{\left( x \right)}\mathclose{}`

I'll have to use that in my macros from now on.

t.b.

@BrianMScott oh, well de gustibus...

@TheChaz speaking of this puzzlement with Theo you mentioned earlier, in the comments here's one instance where I was wondering where that came from...

N3buchadnezzar

7:00 PM

Guess what I just aquired a large amount of ?

2

Homemade

Zhen Lin

@kahen: The trouble with most \operatorname things is that it doesn't produce any space if the next character is a \mathopen. So it's just down to LaTeX not encoding enough semantics.

Antonio Vargas

Just testing: $\sin(2\pi)$ and $\sin{(2\pi)}$

I see...

N3buchadnezzar

\mathopen{} is a clever way to get around this problem

or even doing something like xspace, package. Although the latter is not recommended.

$\text{sin}{(2\pi)}$

Peter Tamaroff

Cinamonnn Rolls? MMMMMMMMMMMM.....

Ilya

The latter election I've attended ended up with 50k-people meetings...

@N3buchadnezzar looks nice and Swedish :)

Peter Tamaroff

7:12 PM

When are we having the Town Hall Chat?

N3buchadnezzar

Norwefgian!!!!!!!!!

vikings!!! not sweeds!

Ilya

@N3buchadnezzar yeah, they are not so viking-look-like. But still, this baked stuff I enjoyed there :p

N3buchadnezzar

Mine have horns!

Peter Tamaroff

@steveO I don't get it.

You really don't get it?

N3buchadnezzar

Me neither

Peter Tamaroff

7:17 PM

I'll give me some context. Meanwhile: baking time

@N3buchadnezzar See this

Ilya

go fucj yourself :(

Jonas Teuwen

Oops 8-).

Peter Tamaroff

@JonasTeuwen What language is it?

Jonas Teuwen

Russian.

Peter Tamaroff

Google doesn't seem to translate it.

The Chaz

7:26 PM

@tb If one were so inclined, he could sort your answers (or even activity?) chronologically... this wasn't hard to find.

(scroll to the comments on this, and on the other answer)

Jonas Teuwen

@Ilya That must be correct! 8-).

t.b.

@TheChaz I see, thanks for the effort :) I know that people can find my name all over the place, but that user was really new, maybe 20 days or something like that...

Zhen Lin

Or maybe not so new...

The Chaz

:)

t.b.

Huh?

@Zhen: seen this? Looks like Andreas nailed it without fuzzy 2-things...

Zhen Lin

7:39 PM

It looks suspiciously like those crossed-module things I keep hearing about.

The Chaz

So what's the over/under on when the last nomination will roll in?

(Obviously less that 21 minutes)

Zhen Lin

@tb I think, based on my fuzzy intuition that crossed module = 2-group, what Andreas describes is the 1-categorical way of looking at what Martin describes.

t.b.

I guess so. But that one a normal hoomin' like the little-ape-that-is-me can grok and check, while MB's is just not workable for mere mortals...

@TheChaz suspense...

The Chaz

@tb I hope the perennial hint-giver will make the cutoff!

t.b.

@TheChaz let's see. 13 more minutes. It's gonna be a close race... Or, he'll have a huge advantage for next year :)

robjohn

7:47 PM

@tb who is it we are talking about?

The Chaz

Bill.

robjohn

Ah, I didn't know if he was serious, since I hadn't seen a nomination

t.b.

@robjohn Your Bézout-nemesis decided to give it a go.

The Chaz

There was also a(nother?) high school kid in the running, for about 10 minutes this hour.

Zhen Lin

@tb I like it too: it's more compact!

The Chaz

7:49 PM

I was hoping to see a primary.

robjohn

@TheChaz how many do we need for a primary?

Zhen Lin

@TheChaz: Is it just numbers? Maybe I could self-nominate for your sake. :p

t.b.

@robjohn it sounded pretty serious up here

The Chaz

@ZhenLin Somewhere I saw that it was TEN users. Might be wrong.

Oh wait... "if there are ten users or less"... so we would need 11!

robjohn

@tb Yeah, I don't see the advantage of waiting until the last minute. I would still like to see his answers to the questions we have all answered up to now.

@TheChaz we need Bill and one other.

The Chaz

7:54 PM

I was just looking for a solution to 9 + x + 1 = 11 :D

robjohn

@TheChaz Lemme fire up Mathematica :-)

The Chaz

hehe

And then there were ten

t.b.

I didn't see that his current rep was this diabolic :)

The Chaz