Mathematics - 2012-05-07 (page 4 of 9)

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2:01 PM

if nobody here is willing to take a look might anyone be able to direct me somewhere where someone might?

statisticians, numerologists, mensa-type societies (they love numerical patterns), ...

@N3buchadnezzar That bit from Antonio was a gem...

@anon Is there anyone who does not love numerical patterns? Oh right, quantum physicists.

@JM Indeed.

nobody?

2:22 PM

Hi, I have some simple math question. anyone can help?

@sam which one?

I'm not sure what category my problem falls under. But here's my problem

I'm making a mobile application that get the feed from youtube. I want to be able to see how many people have liked the video and how many have disliked the video

youtube only give me a few variables to work it

*with

1- the number of people who have rated the video

2- The average rating for the video

@sam Their API doesn't directly output those counts? Odd...

Yeah I know. it looks very silly

What's a more rigorous way to write this?

2:26 PM

"gd$rating": {

"average": 4.163774,

"max": 5,

"min": 1,

"numRaters": 370364,

"rel": "http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#overall"

},

that's all youtube provides

Also, I think one downvote on the question was enough to tell the guy that his question wasn't up to the standards desired by you.

And what's with the pile of comments? It reminds me of lemmings.

does anyone have any ideas how to solve this?

@sam: If the data is not given to you, you can't expect us to magic it out of thin air!

They are giving me three numbers and I though math geniuses might be able to cook something out of those numbers

But those are the ratings. They have nothing to do with likes/dislikes.

2:30 PM

The ratings are decided by number of likes and dislikes

@tb Did you see my cave painting from this morning? (just checking to make sure)

@sam Suppose I told you I had 15k in my bank account. Can you tell me my income and spending levels?

@sam how rating $r$ is defined through number of likes $l$ and dislikes $d$?

@sam Do you have documentation telling us how? If not, then it's as good as unrelated.

@anon if you know a number of transactions and they all are equal, then yes

@MattN cavebears?

2:33 PM

@Ilya Hello Ilya. Yes. : )

@Ilya I'm thinking youtube probably has a record of it in their database and all that they give back is the number of people who have voted up/down and an average

Is there anyway to reverse the average???

@MattN Everyone jumps in and says the same thing, that's why we have something called shotgun or sniper, even.

I find it very strange that they're making a 1 – 5 rating system based on binary input...

@Gigili the response I got from my meta post was that it was undecided whether it was something that should be fixed by math.SE, MathJax, or me. I don't know what the change to math.SE was that keeps ChatJax from working, and I have extremely limited debugging tools (change and rerun) here.

@ZhenLin Yes, looks all fuzzy...

@sam: are there docs for that API?

2:35 PM

@ZhenLin seems like $1$ like = $5$, $1$ like and $1$ dislike = $2.5$

and I swear I remember there used to be a genuine rating system.

Surely there is a mention in the docs of how they figure those things...

back from the park, now off to grocery shop. bbl

@ZhenLin int's interesting that they don't even have that average displayed on the official youtube website. Not really sure what it's doing there!!!

YES

I'll send through the link

@sam you can make a youtube video which we can like and dislike

2:35 PM

@Ilya If I obtained $p$ paychecks, each worth $A$ in money, and spent $B$ on $q$ occasions, can you deduce $A$ and $B$ from $pA-qB=c$ given $c$?

@Ilya: On the hypothesis that like = $5$ and dislike = $1$, then it's easy to separate it out. But that's just a hypothesis.

@Gigili Just like in real life. sigh But what's this with the shotgun?

@anon all means all, not $A$ for one and $B$ for another

@robjohn later.

@Ilya Next time I'll try smoke signs : )

2:36 PM

@ZhenLin I suggested sam to create one video which we can like and dislike

@Ilya In other words, if I spent precisely the value of all of my paychecks. Are you trying to say something about my spending habits :P

@MattN It helps you to overcome your anger. Like when no one answers your questions.

@MattN em?

youtube.com/dev

@Ilya: But linear averaging is so dull. For all we know Google is using much more sophisticated techniques like Bayesian estimation...

2:38 PM

you can like or dislike this video youtube.com/watch?v=Kkmm6VsLV7E

liked

@Ilya Hi! :-).

@ZhenLin then its just impossible to estimate, is it? :)

@Matt +1 :-)

@Ilya Here.

2:39 PM

@JonasTeuwen hi. Btw, I forget the website for subversion you advised me. Basket something... or bin something

@Ilya bitbucket.org :-).

@ZhenLin I did some simple stuff and it worked for one or two. but couldn't use it for all the videos because it didn't return correct number

@JonasTeuwen yes! thanks

@robjohn Thank you, mean king! Is there any way to write it more rigorously? And: did you also plus-one the question to compensate for the excessive downvoting?

@ZhenLin indeed there used to be a 1-5 star rating system on youtube. They got rid of it a while ago - probably because essentially no one used anything other than 1 or 5 with a smattering of 2 ("this sucks, but i don't hate it") and 4 (not quite awesome, but i like it)

2:40 PM

@MattN Looks fine to me. To make it "more rigorous" use characteristic functions and inclusion-exclusion

@sam Then Google is doing a lot of magic behind our backs, it seems. Annoying that the API can't be more forthcoming...

@MattN The comment to robjohn? That I saw. Others no.

@kahen Makes sense. Kinda like my iTunes library, which is mostly 4/5-rated if at all.

@robjohn That's what I am recommending, you can find out which one is it (math.SE, MathJax, or you) by asking on MSO. I can do it if you think it's necessary.

@tb Ah, thanks.

2:42 PM

The problem with reviews is that by and large the only people visiting the video are those that already love it or hate it.

@kahen That complicates things... so what happened to all those other ratings when they made it all binary? (Wait, don't answer that...)

@tb I meant your anbaric epistle.

@Ilya: You shouldn't use subversion. Use git. Or Mercurial. (as advertised on the same site!)

@ZhenLin may I ask, why? :)

@MattN You may as well say "anbaric epistle"...

2:43 PM

can anyone redirect me?

@Ilya SVN is getting old and clunky.

@JM is there anyway we could maybe guestimate it?

Benjamin Lindley

Does anyone know, is there a name for a the relationship between two binary functions who's arguments are reversed? e.g. f(x,y) = x - y and g(x,y) = y - x, what's the name for the relationship between f and g?

@ZhenLin my supervisor is amazed that our SVN is on safe university server. Meanwhile I want to see any changes in our joint *.tex files that he does

@ZhenLin : )

2:45 PM

@BenjaminLindley $f = -g$ or $f(x,y) = g(y,x)$?

@Ilya: You can run your own local revision control. Git/Mercurial are good for that.

You guys were supposed to upvote the question, not my answer : )

@JohnSmith None of us have any ideas, apparently. Please don't take our silence as rudeness...

@MattN Okay, as you wish. I'll undo it now.

@Gigili But only if you instead upvote the question! : )

2:47 PM

I feel like nobody is even *looking at it... I'm only after a right-track push based on mathematical knowledge of subset counting

so if not here then elsewhere... is MO appropriate?

@JohnSmith I've looked at it. Unfortunately, like I said, I don't have my tools with me...

@JohnSmith ...no, definitely not there.

?

MO is definitely not the place to be asking about PE problem help...

@MattN I did both, sir. If it's okay with you.

@Gigili Sure, thanks : )

2:50 PM

@MattN Any time.

Soup ?

Curious question: how old is Bill D.?

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Benjamin Lindley

@Ilya $f = -g$ would apply to the specific functions I gave, but not in general right? For example, if f(x,y) = 2x - y and g(x,y) = 2y - x, then it no longer works. As far $f(x,y) = g(y,x)$ goes, yes that's a symbolic description of what I'm asking about. Is there a name for that?

render

@MattN I don't want to speculate, but he was one of the main contributors for the granddaddy of computer algebra systems... Macsyma is the name.

2:52 PM

@MattN Got it.

@JM Ok, so: probably ancient : )

@MattN Huh? Mental age?

"Macsyma (Project MAC’s SYmbolic MAnipulator) is a computer algebra system that was originally developed from 1968 to 1982 at MIT..."

@tb Good : )

@MattN Around 900 is my estimate.

2:54 PM

@Gigili Yes. As in: never overcame the age of kindergarten kid.

Strong in the math force he is, Mmmm.

I publicly opposed him and one day later I get a downvote on one of my older questions.

But maybe it's just a coincidence.

@MattN I thought he had a facebook account (at least I seem to remember QED mentioning something like that).

@MattN An extraordinary coincidence.

@MattN I can tell you by looking at his avatar that he'll be 83 next month.

I like bill

2:57 PM

But for the future: if you guys want to piss me off/ hurt me/ make me angry or upset me you need to come up with something better than downvotes or spiteful comments : D

@Gigili Waaaaat?! 0_o

I will steal your beer, and do incorrect algebra!

@tb heads out to look at FB

2 + 2 = 5 ! Hah, take that!

/me dies in agony

Has anyone been able to divine the motivation behind questions like thes...?

2:59 PM

@MattN For example? Just to make sure I have will succeed next time.

@tb What? Why?

2 mins ago, by N3buchadnezzar

2 + 2 = 5 ! Hah, take that!

@Gigili Haha, this is getting a bit too personal : )

@ZhenLin I just put him on my "list of people I can't read"...

@JM I suspect he has set himself some kind of project to rework the foundations of mathematics.

3:02 PM

Oh!! I gotta run! Afk for some time, see you later!

@MattN Hum? I don't see how what you said yourself is personal. Never mind then.

Gosh darn it, physics is hard!

Bye!

@ZhenLin Oh, like that Mueckenheim fellow? :)

@N3buchadnezzar: Of course it is. That's why I don't do it! :p

3:03 PM

@Gigili No, answering your last question would be too personal : )

@ZhenLin it used to be the Abel prize, but it seems to have disappeared from his home page.

@tb Oh, that was him? I completely forgot.

Why don't people say: just take half a circle in $S^3$ and project down?

@tb I'd not seen his home page before. I didn't realize that he was quite that far out to lunch.

@tb Good point. But from the phrasing of the question I sense a more ... visual ... explanation is what is desired.

3:11 PM

@ZhenLin like the plate trick?

Now that's something I don't understand!

@tb would you happen to remember who came up with that one?

@JM I seem to remember that it was Dirac, but I'm not sure.

@JM at least the Belt trick :)

Paff paff, grumble, stomp stomp, gnarg

Speaking of Dirac, Atiyah said that if Dirac and Hodge talked more, he would have been out of a job!

@tb (also, regarding your comment that Atiyah's accent is hard to understand, I must agree.)

3:17 PM

better late than never :)

Thanks!

Very popular, this one... faq time?

Wouldn't be a bad idea, I guess.

I read that wrong, faq time..

@JM Didn't we just have that from the fellow who seemed to be working through parts (a)-(c) of an exercise?

@N3buchadnezzar well, that thing's been asked so many times in the past few days...

@BrianMScott Yeah, that's why I thought somebody should be picking which of those dupes should be the FAQ...

3:26 PM

@BrianMScott I bet it's the same person. Compare this to this

Certainly could be, couldn't it.

Hello. What do people think about questions being deleted because someone happens to know that they are from a contest?

@TaraB Happened twice or thrice before here; it sucks when it happens...

There's been a question here

Yes, I've seen that.

3:35 PM

@JM actually, it happened quite a few times lately, e.g. here

I don't understand why deleting the question is considered a helpful approach.

For example, today there was this.

@TaraB I think deletion decided by a single community member is wrong. It is disrespectful to those who spent their valuable time answering the question. Iirc there is widely varying opinions on how to deal with problems from tests, contests, etc. I think moderatiors should let the community decide on contentious issues.

It looked familiar to me, but I couldn't find find a duplicate. It turns out that was because it had been deleted.

I'm less concerned about my valuable time spent asking the question than the fact that I could have in my ignorance provided a complete answer, not knowing it was a contest question, even though that information had been pointed out on the site, but was no longer visible to me.

I don't know why the questions were deleted. In some instances it was the organizers of the contest who asked to do it if I understood correctly.

@tb Tsk, tsk...

3:40 PM

*i meant my time spent answering the question rather than asking, sorry!

It would be considerably more helpful to just comment on the question that it comes from such-and-such competition, I think. But it sounds like everyone here agrees with me?

@BillDubuque Maybe they got e-mailed...

'everyone' = Bill and t.b., anyway =]

@TaraB It feels bad when your assumption of good faith is violated, yes...

What's more disturbing is that the community can not vote to undelete once a moderator has deleted

@Bill: I don't believe I have such powers yet anyway, so I hadn't noticed that.

@J.M.: It's more the fact that this information was known by people on the site, but was then hidden from me (by the question being deleted), so I couldn't benefit from it.

Deleting a question doesn't stop someone else asking the same question again.

3:45 PM

How long did it take you to write that answer, @TaraB?

@Gigili: Not very long at all. As I said, it's not the time I care about at all.

Can people with sufficiently high rep see deleted questions?

What if keeping that question here will lead other contributors to our site by Google or something?

@Gigili: If my answer is considered too 'helpful', I'm happy to delete it.

After much arm twisting, I have decided to run for moderator. One of my main campaign pledges will be to always let the community make decisions like this, and to help encourage polite constructive discussion of such matters on meta.

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@tb: How did this guy (who is allegedly a sock-puppet) know to call you Theo?

3:48 PM

@TaraB I'm saying we don't know the reasons behind an action, it's not all about what pleases me and you. There's a community policy, other users, moderators and whatnot.

@TaraB Yes, it's a 10k+ feature.

Well, I guess maybe some high rep users might forget about the fact that deleting questions means that the rest of us can't see them at all anymore, and so they might not realise how unhelpful it can be.

Whoa, the professional detective.

@Bill: Should the community be concerned with any past (present?) tension between you and current moderator(s)?

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@Bill: That's great! Don't forget to get your nomination in on time. =]

3:50 PM

@TheChaz because Ragib spoke of "Brain and theo" a bit earlier

@tb Ah. I saw your " (user1) = (user2) " comment elsewhere and followed the trail

@TaraB You'll be a 10k user soon or later and you can see them. That doesn't mean they need to keep the question so that all can see them.

though not well enough :)

I will be very careful to separate my personal views from those of the community. My view is that a moderator should do everything possible to ascertain the views in the ciommunity and to represent them as fairly as possible.

@Gigili: What I'm saying is that if the previous version of that question had not been deleted, then I would have known about it being a contest question earlier, and that would have been helpful.

3:51 PM

This is not the THC room, why you star everything?

We have to talk about that topic there, not here.

@Gigili: Yes, if I stick around long enough, I will, but that's not at all the issue. There will still be many users who don't have 10k.

@BillDubuque Thanks for the reply. Best wishes in the election!

@TaraB There are also many users that can find them since they're +10k.

That's the issue. You need to see the deleted questions to avoid answering it? Get to 10k.

@Gigili: And meanwhile, what am I supposed to do? Never provide a full answer, just in case it's a contest or homework?

@Gigili: You really don't seem to understand my point at all. I'm trying to discuss what would be the most helpful approach towards such questions in general, not 'what pleases me'.

@TaraB You can answer as much or as little as you want. Opinions vary wildly...

3:56 PM

@TaraB No, I just don't see your point. You're complaining why the dupe question was deleted so you couldn't find it, this is how it works, +10k users can see them, others cannot.

@Gigili: Yes, and so I don't think that deleting the question was a helpful approach.

Okay, I misinterpreted your complaint.

Even we 10k-ers cannot search for deleted content. I had to peruse my browser history to find the question.

As I said, "we don't know the reasons behind an action, we better no to misjudge the situation". That's all.

@anon: Ah, interesting. Well, thanks for doing that, anyway.

@Gigili: I was just trying to see if other people agreed with me that deleting is unhelpful in these cases. It turns out some people do.

3:59 PM

We can but speculate about the moderator's motivation/reasons. In fact, I flagged one of the answers whose only content was a link to the contest question and pointed that out in my flag. The thread was then deleted a few hours later.

@TaraB I see, I am one of those "people" and I was trying to imply that I don't agree with you.

@Gigili: So why do you think that deleting the question is a helpful approach?

15 mins ago, by Gigili

What if keeping that question here will lead other contributors to our site by Google or something?

And what if someone else just asks the question again, as in fact happened?

@robjohn No, I did not! Would we have such a trick as with the Gaussian? :-).

4:03 PM

Also, as I said, I'm quite happy to delete my answer if someone thinks it gives too much away.

@TaraB They'll delete it again, since they can't ban them from asking.

@Tara This is a very complex issue with many subleties. I doubt we could do it justice disucssing it on chat. I think it woul be better to start a meta discussion so that everyone could appreciate the diverse viewpoints in the community. I think all of the moderators will respect the views of the community once it is made clear.

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@TaraB I have nothing against your answer. Clearly you didn't know the story.

@Bill: I agree, but didn't feel like writing a well-thought-out meta question just yet. =]

@TaraB The OPs of the two questions are, with extremely high probability, the same person - the two questions are nearly word-for-word identical. The first account ("Login Test" or something like that) is suspended for "rule violations."

4:06 PM

@Gigili Only if it's recognized as coming from the competition. And as @Tara has pointed out, it would be easier to recognize this if the earlier question were kept.

@Gigili: And so potentially we just get the same questions over and over again, with some askers being 'lucky' enough to grab an answer quickly before the question gets deleted.

@JonasTeuwen I think I answered a question where I wrote a radial function as a linear combination of gaussians, but I don't know if it would work to compute an explicit Fourier Transform

@anon: You mean of the deleted question and the current version? Hmm...

@TaraB What else you recommend, considering my point?

@Tara I've been meaning to compose a meta question on this and related matters. It needs to be crafted very carefully to have hope to turn into a constructive discussion. Alas, too many times in the past I've made the mistake of raising these matters in the heat of the moment, which has sidetracked the discussion on tangential matters. Needless to say, I have learned my lesson.

4:08 PM

@BrianMScott They're potentially there, If I am nothing repeating myself.

Also, as @anon said, It's about "rule violations". It doesn't make sense to keep such a question.

@Gigili What are potentially where?

@BrianMScott The deleted questions.

@Bill: Yes, it's tricky. Well, do you mind if I ask a question on meta about this particular issue, if I happen to decide I feel like writing one later?

Hi guys, quick question. I have this problem which asks to find if singular points are regular or irregular. My answer is that they are both irregular, but the book says otherwise. Can anybody doublecheck if the book made a mistake? The equation is $(t^2 - t - 6)y'' + (t^2 - 9)y' + 2y = 0$

@Gigili They are not there in usable form: even 10k+ users can't search for them.

4:11 PM

I am not presently aware of an official rule against contest questions posted on MSE. The banner on user profiles that indicates they are banned do not specify what rules are broken, nor does the closure reason provided by Qiaochu's deletion decision specify.

@BrianMScott Okay.

@Gigili You've just been given reasons why it does make sense to keep them. You may think that the reasons are inadequate, but they certainly exist.

@Gigili: I'm not sure I know a good solution. I've only been on this site about two months, so I'm not fully familiar with how everything works yet.

@Tara You should always feel free to ask questions on meta.

@TaraB I don't think that there is a perfectly satisfactory solution.

4:13 PM

@BrianMScott Have I? I said deleting them makes perfect sense, not keeping them.

Well, one thing is that there are kind of similar questions already, e.g. this, though it's more general, so I wasn't sure whether to just write what I had to say as a comment or answer to that question, or to start a new topic.

@Gigili: Yes, you said it, but I don't find that you have really argued for it.

@Gigili You said that it makes no sense to keep them. Others have pointed given reasons why it does make sense to keep them. You've not addressed those reasons; rather, you've spoken as if they did not exist.

@TaraB Sorry, I tried my best. I don't know what you're after.

@anon There are no "rules" since there has been no voting by the community on these matters. That is the only fair way to decide.

@Gigili: Your reasons for thinking it makes sense to delete the questions.

4:15 PM

@anon It's not moral anyway.

@BillDubuque I don't pretend to speak for Tara, but some of us would much rather answer questions than waste time on meta.

@Brian: Well, yes... Or, more importantly, I'd rather get my own maths done.

@BrianMScott I said it doesn't make sense to keep them open to everybody and gave a reason. They're visible to a group of people who are trusted by the community.

@Gigili: But not searchable by those people, even if I did consider that to be enough.

@Gigili What reason? And see also Tara's comment just above.

4:19 PM

@BrianMScott Sure, I realize that many members have no interest in being involved in meta, whether it be for time constraints, or whatever. But I'm not sure how that relates to what I said.

@TaraB What? I don't get it. Didn't one of them find the duplicate of the question you are talking about?

@BrianMScott I see her comments.

Yes, me. By going through a week of my browser history.

Indeed!

A week or a year, that's not my point.

33 mins ago, by Gigili

What if keeping that question here will lead other contributors to our site by Google or something?

For the, um, third time.

@BrianMScott I'd prefer to spend all my time on teaching too. But I know from past experience that if experienced members don't share their wisdom to help avoid mistakes of the past, then general-level math forums can crash and burn quite quickly.

4:21 PM

@Gigili My response is So what?

@Gigili: But of browser history. If anon happened to be on a different computer or had deleted the history, then it would have been very difficult (maybe impossible) to find.

@BrianMScott It's not legal to keep them. I'd complain if I were the designer of those contests or the owner of those sites or whatever of whatever.

@Gigili: I actually highly doubt it would be illegal.

legal? Are you serious?

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@Gigili I doubt that it's illegal to keep them. I further doubt that you're qualified to make that judgement.

4:23 PM

Dead serious.

@BrianMScott Neither are you.

@Gigili Then I'm afraid that you really don't know what you're talking about.

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@robjohn Will try :-).

How pleasant.

@BrianMScott Last time I checked I knew, didn't get notified of any changes.

@BillDubuque If you were to tell me You can always ask on meta, my immediate reaction would be Bleagh or worse. I'm sympathetic to a number of your concerns, but not to your level of activism. My preference is to get a good group of moderators, let them make the occasional mistake, and act if things starting getting bad.

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4:25 PM

@Brian: Bill was responding to me having asked if he minded me bringing up a particular question that he had been planning to bring up.

@TaraB I know; I was explaining my previous comment to him.

@JonasTeuwen I think it will resolve down to my shell method. However that has less applicability to $\mathbb{R}^n$ for $n\not=3$

@Brian: I just thought maybe you hadn't read the context of his comment.

Also, moderators and high rep users can search for a deleted question.

@BrianMScott Yes, I can relate to that viewpoint since I had that view on other forums. Unfortunately they still crashed and burned, which is why I now play a more active role.

4:28 PM

@TaraB I was also responding to his overall approach.

We're trying to draw something in Geogebra. Does anyone in here have any experience with Geogebra? For example, something like this but with a cylinder attached?

Yes, I see that now.

@Gigili You do realize that anon explicitly denied that high-rep users could do so, yes?

@TheChaz what do you find pleasant?

I've a feeling that he was being sarcastic.

4:29 PM

@robjohn Just being facetious.

Or sarcastic :D

Well anyway, I think I've concluded that this probably is something worth bringing up on meta, but it might be a little while before I get around to it. Thanks for the discussion.

@BrianMScott I just checked with a 82k user.

@Gigili There isn't one in MSE.

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user19161

OK people with 10k rep can see deleted posts but they cannot search for them.

@Gigili I don't know about mods, but I don't think I can search for deleted questions. I can see them, but the search tools don't

4:31 PM

yes, that's what we'd established.

@BrianMScott Not my point again. It seems to me that you appeared in the middle on the discussion and are not aware of previous comments. I wouldn't say you don't know what you're talking about like you did.

user19161

@robjohn I happen to know that mods can have a list of a user's deleted posts though.

So, I guess asking the SE folks if they could add searchability for deleted questions might be some help, but my impression is that there's not a huge probability of them doing anything about feature requests.

@ClarkKent okay, so mods can :-)

user19161

There was once I wanted to undelete my deleted answers and a mod said he could email me a list if I wanted but I am not sure of the details of that implementation.

4:33 PM

`@ClarkKent: I see that red J beneath your business suit. :-)

@Gigili I've been here since before the discussion started.

user19161

Even if one reaches 20k, I don't think he can search for deleted posts. There is not much difference between 10k and 20k privileges. 20k has stronger deletion powers and 15k has protection powers, that's all.

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@ClarkKent That is what I was saying.

@BrianMScott Okay, good for you.

user19161

4:34 PM

@robjohn Yes, great minds think alike. :-)

@BrianMScott Maybe she meant an 82k SE user. Sometimes in here (though I can't duplicate it) you can see a number, but it's the sum of rep across the network. Took me a while to get un-confused :)

@TheChaz Yes, I'm familiar with the phenomenon; it also took me a while to realize what was going on.

^^

Maybe you two need to improve your English, haha.

@Gigili ???

4:36 PM

@Brian: Just what I was going to say!

CLASSIC.

Perfect. Nothing could be better.

@Gigili That's two apparent non sequiturs in a row. Would you care to explain?

@BrianMScott Sure. But first I need to make sure that I know what I am talking about.

We don't have that much time.

4:40 PM

I don't need your time.

Well, I think I need my time for something else now.

Bye!

cya

@BrianMScott I was being ironic.

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A: Can I find a deleted question if I know the identity of the poster?

Only moderators can see deleted posts in a user profile or search for them using the site search. Normal users can only use the "recently deleted" list in the 10k tools or get a link to a deleted question in any other way.

@Gigili I assumed as much. The intended irony remains opaque to me, especially in the first of the two comments.

@Gigili And that's knowing the identity of the poster.

Ah, the recently deleted only goes back about 24 hours. Dang.

4:45 PM

@anon you can switch to 30 days in the upper right and then expand the list. But it only goes back to May 1st since there was quite a bit of M-activity, among others.

@BrianMScott Well, I didn't delete those questions, and I said thrice that there might be reasons behind it. I don't know why I felt everyone is against me, not that I care, just wondering. I needed to say that to feel better. (there's no logic behind it, that is)

@tb Aha! The deleted question in question is on the list.

@Gigili I don't think that everyone is against you; it's just that some of us disagree with you and don't think that you've made a very good case for your opinion. In particular, the bit about illegality was pretty silly.

@anon Would that be the list in question? :-)

@MattN Geogebra isn't exactly well-suited for 3d-graphics, I'm afraid. You'd need to simulate that "by hand" and I don't know how good that'd look.

@BrianMScott I see no reason to manage to offend me. Not that what you were saying didn't seem silly to me.

Okay, I had enough of your nice remarks. I'll be AFK for a bit.

4:52 PM

@Gigili Actually, for the most part I've been trying not to offend you while still disagreeing strongly. But you do seem to take offense rather easily. And the bit about illegality was about like telling me that $2+2=5$.

What about illegality?

@JohnSmith ctrl+f "legal"

@John, it's starred on the right (at least in my window)

Is there always so much drama on this site? I'm a bit of a newcomer here.

Only because we're bored.

4:55 PM

I looked above and much of the transcript is cut off and I don't want to read a billion messages of bloat

just wanted a simple short answer

And because the bugs are coming out (scattering?) in light of the elections.

@TheChaz I figured that might have something to do with it.

@BrianMScott Seems it gets worse when you try to avoid it. Yes, I wake up on the wrong side of the bed, I can't help it. But I'd guess I'm not the only one who gets offended by remarks like "you don't know what you're talking about" and "that's silly".

Oh boy, it's the same question with different variables!

hi folks

4:57 PM

@anon Is it a dupe?

Hi @Martin

decide for yourself

I don't know if they're the same person, but it certainly derives from the same source.

whoa another john smith, eerie

@TheChaz I'd consider flagging that. Nice that the one who expects respect, barely can behave respectful.

@anon Hmm, I agree.

Hi @Martin.

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