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12:00 AM
Anybody?
 
@EricGregor Sorry, I am working on something for Joe, do you see how to get your result either with Young or Hölder?
@JoeStavitsky have a bit of patience... I have to go soon, but I am working on it :-)
 
@robjohn, sorry hangin out
 
Have you guys seen this video? Calculus Rhapsody?
 
i think the point is to use holder's inequality to show that $\|f*g\|_u\le \|f\|_p\|g\|_q$
 
@EricGregor either will work, I believe.
 
12:02 AM
@robjohn, if you need me to come back later I can do that
 
i don't see how young' inequality would work off the bat @robjohn
@joe do you want to know if they all lie on a line?
or any three points
 
@JoeStavitsky feel free to ask someone else, but I am working on it. I have to go soon, though.
 
@EricGregor Both if they lie on a line and if the line is within a set slope range of any of the 6 cardinal directions (up,down,left,right, in, out)
 
@EricGregor $\|f\ast g\|_r\le\|f\|_p\|g\|_p$ where $\frac1r=\frac1p+\frac1q-1$
 
«How to color the regions bounded by the curve without converting the parametric equation to an implicit equation?»...
 
12:06 AM
@EricGregor but in the case of $r=\infty$, Hölder also works.
 
i don't know what you mean by efficient, but surely at least you could look at the set of lines determined by any two points and see if you can find any linear dependence
i think that would be easy to do with a program
@robjohn but why is that inequality true?
 
@EricGregor, yes, but which 2? Shall I do all possible combinations? Kinda messy?
 
folland says to use what i was asking about to prove it
yes, it's messy. there is surely a better way
 
@JoeStavitsky: Try writing your line as $p+ut$ where $p\cdot u=0$ and $u\cdot u=1$
 
i was saying to look at all the line segments formed by two points
how much data do you have?
 
12:10 AM
@JoeStavitsky: then minimize $\sum_k|(p-x_k)\times u|^2$
 
@robjohn what line are you considering?
you are assuming he's found a line containing 3 or more data points, yes?
 
@EricGregor You want to minimize the sum above over all lines. The $p$ and $u$ above map uniquely back to a line.
you want to find the $p$ and $u$ that minimize the sum for the $\{x_k\}$ you're given
 
for a given line, you mean
 
Hello guys! What's one way to go about proving that left and right eigenvectors need not be the same. I worked out the proof to show that left and right eigenvalues are the same, but I'm stuck on the eigenvectors.
 
you're telling him how to express a line in a canonical way
 
12:12 AM
@EricGregor yes
 
@robjohn, is that mathjax
 
@JoeStavitsky yes... oops the pinned comment is gone.
@JoeStavitsky go here to get ChatJax
 
user19161
@robjohn I think it stays pinned for a week only.
 
@robjohn, sorry, I don't understand the first one
 
jrg
Wow, you guys star more than the ubuntu guys, and we are really prolific starrers.
 
12:16 AM
@JasperLoy It stays for a month, but for some reason one got recycled from a few months ago. I need to make a new one.
 
user19161
@robjohn Oops, sorry for the wrong info mod-to-be!
 
user19161
@jrg Wait till you see gaming!
 
jrg
@JasperLoy And I just stay far away from gaming.
Mainly because I do not play games, I make games. :P
and last I checked, board games are off-topic on gaming.se. ;P
 
user19161
@jrg Oh, I do neither.
 
@Gigili How are your mod disputes going about in meta?
 
12:20 AM
@robjohn, can you wlk me through that first one?
 
Please Read: Chat Rules
14
 
user19161
@robjohn This chat rules thing has been like pinned for 9000 years. Is it supposed to be always pinned?
 
jrg
@robjohn Can I borrow those for Ask Ubuntu? We occasionally need something like that.
 
@JoeStavitsky I am sorry, but I have to leave. I won't be back for 7-8 hours. If you are around, I will be glad to go over it.
@jrg I don't see why not :-)
 
@robjohn, np, I'll stop by later, thanks for the help.
 
jrg
12:22 AM
@robjohn Awesome, you rock. Thanks!
 
@JasperLoy yep.
Okay, I have to leave for a while BBL.
 
user19161
@jrg I think you need to take a look at the rules first. Some of them are a bit weird to me.
 
user19161
So I do things slightly differently in this room.
 
jrg
@JasperLoy Oh? They seem reasonable to me.
 
user19161
@jrg Good for you!
 
12:28 AM
What'd be the difference between a vote and a super vote?
 
jrg
depends. a "super vote" is one cast by a moderator, and is either a delete or close vote.
 
oh, i see
I didn't know they were called that way.
 
jrg
what it means is that it does it instantly, and removes the democracy of closing, deleting and reopening from the equation.
meaning that mods need to be trusted, and careful. :)
 
12:42 AM
@jrg Yeah, I know.
 
1:20 AM
Hey guys, quick question: if you have two sets A and B with some elements in common, what does the notation A\B mean? It appeared on an answer to one of my main page questions, but I'm slightly confused.
 
it means the subset of A not containing any points of B
 
Makes sense. Thanks.
 
A\B is shorthand for A - (A∩B)
 
1:51 AM
I feel so dirty, spent the last two days without leaving my room, just math
 
i have a stupid question: why in the definition of schwarz functions and other cases where you want to discuss some uniform bound of a function does one encouter $C(1+|x|)^a$ rather than just $C(|x|)^a$?
 
user19161
@Jordan Very good. Einstein did not bathe for days when working on relativity!
 
unfortunately I mostly just look at pictures of cats on the internet
I think that makes me a virgin, not a mathematician
 
user19161
@NicoBellic The notation also applies even if A and B have nothing in common. Also, some write it as A-B.
 
Nico, want to go bowling?
wow I just had trouble with a problem, and I actually did it to completion, feels good. I am going to reward myself with 20 minutes of reddit time
 
2:08 AM
reddit sounds like punishment
 
haha why
 
perhaps reaped in the next life, though
 
well there is no next life, so it sounds like reddit is a pretty sweet deal :P
 
reddit seems to me a celebration of weakness
i just can't stand "nerd" culture
 
Yeah I hate nerd culture as well, but there are some really good subreddits on reddit
I like r/truegaming r/programming r/askscience r/beer r/military and other stuff like that are devoid of memes because the subscrber base is small
 
2:14 AM
are you in the military?
 
I was
 
The smaller the userbase, the higher the quality of submissions for serious subreddits, it seems. I'm virtually unsubscribed from all front page subreddits.
 
askreddit use to be interesting when I first started going, but it turned into the same questions every day and the same stupid puns and memes at the top
 
2:31 AM
I will be afk, but would appreciate if someone could answer my above question: essentially, why does one often encouter $C(1+x)^n$ rather than $C(x)^n$ when one talks about bounding functions. particularly with respect to defining Schwarz functions
 
what does $C(1+x)^n)$ mean?
 
$C$ is a constant
 
oh, you wrote $C(x)^n$ and that looks funny :)
one uses $1+x$ and not $x$
 
yeah, sorry
 
because $Cx^n$ only bounds functions which vanish at zero
you could use any other polynomial which does not vanish and is positive
That comment of Bill is quite dramatic
 
2:35 AM
@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Folland defines Schwartz to be those functions such that the supremum over all x of $(1+|x|)^N||\partial^\alpha f(x)|$ is finite
and later says that if $f$ is in $C^\infty$ then $f$ is Schwarz iff $x^\beta \partial^\alpha f$ is bounded for all $\beta,\alpha$
 
Does somebody have an example of two left and right eigenvectors that are not the same? You can choose any matrix. I can't seem to think of any.
 
It is 4:30 here guys
I should hit the hay
 
I teld to appreciate more complaints about concrete situations rather than generic, close-to-empty declamations :/
If there is a problem, it should be address. But one can not address generic problems
 
G`night everyone =)
 
@Eric, the two things are equivalent
 
2:36 AM
yeah i thought BD's comment was maudlin
 
you surely appreciate the fact that if $Cx^n$ bounds a function, then that function must vanish at zero
and one wants functions in Schwartz space which do not vanish at zero
 
yes, i agree. but the other direction concerns me
 
try to prove it: it simply depends on the fact that the function $\frac{x^n}{1+x^n}$ converges to one as $x$ grows
so $(1+|x|)^N f$ is bounded iff $|x|^N f$ is bounded
 
i agree it's true even...folland proves it
my confusion is not precise
 
2:39 AM
i don't see why one prefers to use $(1+x)^N$ rather than $x^N$
b/c of this equivalence
 
then just suspend the unbelief and revisti the question in a while :D
 
i guess it has to do with the assumption that $f$ is $C^\infty$
 
no
that does not change anything w.r.t. differentiablity
one prefers to use (1+x) simply because when you try to prove that a specific function is in that space, you have to bound it by something
and it is much more confortable to bound using 1+x than just x
for example: try to show that $e^{-x^2}$ is in the Schwartz space
 
ah, that makes sense
i was fooled into thinking it was an essential feature rather than a useful way of looking at it
the best way of thinking about it is (any polynomial$)^n$
 
@BillDubuque Please @Billl, make such complaints on a meta post, preferably with links to concrete problems. Such general statements as this, as you probably understand, will not help the situation which you perceive. Morevoer, someone with your long online experiece surely appreciates that phrasings like «pack» and «attack new users for sins they don't even know about», while colorful, rarely make communication or solution of problems any easier.
@Eric, even better, drop the n: just a polynomial
 
2:45 AM
thanks @MarianoSuárezAlvarez
 
the condition is «the function and all its derivatives get small faster than any polynomial grows»
it is easy to see that two polynomials of the same degree grow with the same speed, so one need only check that with one polynomial per degree
that's what the family $\{(1+x)^n\}$ is: a family with one polynomial per degree
 
$O(x^n)$, right?
 
yes
well, O(1/x^n), really
 
why the reciprocal?
 
the condition is that f and all of its derivatives be in $\bigcap_{n\geq1}O(\tfrac1{|x|^n})$.
because the condition is that $x^n f(x)$ be bounded, so that $|f(x)|\leq C\tfrac1{x^n}$, i,e., $f\in O(\tfrac1{x^n})$.
 
2:51 AM
ah, ok. i understand. i was just asking about the notation for the family of polynomials by degree
 
(everything as $x\to\infty$, of course)
 
mariano, you are my favorite user on the site. you aren't a one-dimensional guy. i like your lack of nonsense and admire your attitude toward doing mathematics.
and you're very helpful.
 
don't mean to make you blush or anything. just saying a lot of people wouldn't respond to Bill like that and would assume he had some deep point
apparently 6 people did
you were saying the other day that you think math is social. i found that comment interesting
but i'm not sure i entirely agree. at least i think it must be more than that. the trends and fashions should be informed by something deeper than "that's just what we're all working on at the moment"
 
heh
sure
but mathematicians are humans
 
2:56 AM
yes, i agree
 
it is not a problem with math but with human activities
 
i would say that math is cultural
which is close to what you were saying
 
but that some cultures are clearly superior to others
 
The spirit of Lévi Strauss is coming to get you!!!!
:)
 
2:57 AM
i'm more into spengler :)
 
i think a better reply to (i forgot who you were talking to, Alex?) would be to say that if point set topology were elevated to the highest place in mathematics the culture would be much more narrow and less capable of deep connections
i speak as an amateur. but this is how i understand it
again, you were kind of saying it. i just missed the conversation and wanted to add my two cents late
 
his point that if one enjoys gneral topology one should by all means devote oneself to it does hold, though
 
sometimes people who do math are a little too philosophically autistic. what you said was a good corrective
 
one should give oneself as much pleasure as one can
 
3:00 AM
but in the context of what you said about studying aramaic
 
you aren't helping anyone or advancing the culture as a whole
except in some esoteric way
 
yup
of course, it is esential that there be peopl who study aramaic
 
i agree
 
because in a few hundred years someone is going to find a paper written in aramaic and someone will have to decipher it
 
3:01 AM
but they should know their place in the ecology
 
I have a friend who is a world-renowned expert in those langauges
 
which languages?
 
when they found the last few scrolls with some testament or another, he was one of the three guys that got sent a copy to translate
 
aside from aramaic
 
aramaic and friends
 
3:02 AM
lol
 
I hope he is not listening, but I don't remember the others :)
 
that's cool
 
yeah
he is invaluable
but if the masses of younglings started dedicating themselves to aramaic en masse, that would probably be less than ideal
 
the notion of a convolution is pretty neat
or rather what it can do via approximate identities
 
yup :)
it is a very creative way to pretend that there is a unit :)
 
3:11 AM
hi all
what's the etiquette here for replying to homework questions? particulary those without any discussion of current progress?
 
@MarianoSuárezAlvarez do you know what folland means when he says "let $\delta=\rho(K,U^c)$ (the distance from $K$ to $U^c$, which is positive since $K$ is compact"?
@AlexanderAmenta you might want to encourage them in the comments to supply this
 
@EricGregor, you have a compact set $K$ contained in an open set $U$
 
yes, i should have specified that
 
he is computing the disctance from $K$ to the complement of $U$,
the two are disjoints, and since one of them is compact, the distance is positive
 
as in the shortest path?
 
3:12 AM
@EricGregor ok, i answered a question just before (math.stackexchange.com/questions/141570/…) and did just that, but i'm concerned that i might have given too much detail
 
as in $d(F,G)=\sup\{d(f,g):f\in F, g\in G\}$.
 
i see, so compactness just make a distance of zero impossible
 
i was thinking he might have meant a notion of negative distance was possible otherwise
 
you should prove that in detail, though :)
 
3:14 AM
thanks
 
i think it's clear because of subsequential compactness or whatever it's called
if the sup were zero you would have a sequence of points in $K$ converging to a point in $U^c$, but obviously not lying in $K$
 
"it's clear" is just an abbreviation of "I can provide a detailed proof if one is requested" :)
 
good evening all
 
Good evening
 
3:16 AM
i did say "...because..."!
my proof is correct, right @MarianoSuárezAlvarez?
 
well: you would have two sequences $k_n\in K$ and $x_n\in U^c$ such that $d(k_n,x_n)\to 0$
but that does not mean that the sequences converge to anything
 
for example, the distance form the graph of $e^x$ to the $x$-axis is zero
 
uniform boundedness principle
 
in that example, the sequences never converge
that is a complicated way of saying: the sequence of the $k_n$ is in $K$, which is compact, so by replacing the whole thing by subsequences, we can assume it converges
and then... &c
 
3:19 AM
am i right that one wants something analogous to the UBP?
 
to do what?
to prove the positivity of that distance?
 
yeah
 
you just need to use the compactness of $K$
 
lol, well yeah. but how is what i am trying to answer
 
I wrote the beginning above
 
3:21 AM
i don't know what you mean by "that is a complicated way of saying: the sequence of the kn is in K, which is compact, so by replacing the whole thing by subsequences, we can assume it converges"
replace what whole thing?
 
I mean that invoking the UBP is a way of saying that
 
sorry but i am very confused
in the beginning i was naively assuming we could take the point in $U^c$ to be an arbitrary boundary point of $U^c$
i retract my last sentence
 
you start with sequences $(k_n)$ and $(x_n)$ in $K$ and $U^c$, resp, such that $d(k_n,x_n)\to 0$. The first one is in $K$, which is compact, so it has a convergent subsequence $(k_{n_i})$. Call $k=\lim k_{n_i}$. Prove that $x_{n_i}\to k$ as $i\to\infty$. Since the $x$'s are in $U^c$, which is closed, this implies that $k$ is in $U^c$, which is impossible.
 
ok, i see
thanks for holding my hand on that one, sorry
you were correct in criticizing my "it's clear"
 
3:31 AM
@MarianoSuárezAlvarez Can you help me with a question about Cyclotomic fields? I'm trying to determine the automorphisms that are in the quotient $$\operatorname{Gal}(\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{13})/\Bbb{Q})/\operatorname{Gal}(\Bbb{Q}( \zeta_{5 } )/\Bbb{Q})$$
 
I am about to leave, David :(
 
OK. :(
Another time perhaps.
 
that shouldn't be too bad david
unless i'm missing something
have you determined the galois groups?
 
Well I've been trying to figure this out forever.
Yes. Mostly.
 
isn't this $(\mathbb{Z}/12)/(\mathbb{Z}/4)$?
 
3:33 AM
Yes.
 
so isn't it the quotient just $\mathbb{Z}/3$?
 
Ultimately, I need to be able to express that quotient group as a Galois group of a simple cyclotomic extension of $\Bbb{Q}$.
Yes.
 
you would then just have to find the order 3 automorphism in the first field
 
I've already done that.
 
so then you found the automorphisms, haven't you?
 
3:36 AM
Well....
 
you want to project onto the quotient?
is that the problem?
 
Here's my confusion: I form that quotient and I know I should be left with the order 3 automorphism. But $\operatorname{Gal}(\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{13})/\Bbb{Q})$ is generated by $\sigma_{2}(\zeta)=\zeta^{2}$.
I can't seem to understand how I'm left with just $\sigma_{2}^{3}$.
 
what do you mean?
don't you mean $\sigma_{2}^{4}$.
 
Yes.
Sorry about that.
 
you want an explicit description of the fixed field?
 
3:39 AM
Sort of. I've already determined the fixed field, but I'm not quite sure how to thoroughly justify it.
 
why don't you try
even if it sounds like BS
 
Hmm. In what sense is the Galois group of $Q(\zeta_5)?Q$ contained in the Galois group of $Q(\zeta_{13})/Q$?
$\zeta_5$ is not in $Q(\zeta_{13})$, is it?
 
OK. well I know what all the primitive generators are for all the subfields of $\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{13})$ and I am trying to mod out so that I have a subfield that is isomorphic to $(\Bbb{Z}/3\Bbb{Z})^{\times}$. But the Galois groups of $\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{13})$ is generated by $\sigma_{2}$ while the Galois group of $\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{5})$ is cyclic with galios group $\{\sigma_{1},\sigma_{2},\sigma_{3},\sigma_{4}\}$.
Well $\Bbb{Z}/4\Bbb{Z}<\Bbb{Z}/12\Bbb{Z}$ and $\Bbb{Z}/4\Bbb{Z}\cong(\Bbb{Z}/5\Bbb{Z})^{\times}\cong\operatorname{Gal}(\Bbb{Q}( \zeta_{ 5 })/\Bbb{Q})$.
 
mariano is asking a good question though. you have the isomorphism, but that doesn't mean they are the same
where did you encounter this question? what's the exact statement?
 
Do you think that it's contained in the sense that there is a unique group identification?
 
3:48 AM
that'd be a terrible way to say it :D
 
i think you can embed the automorphisms of $\mathbb{Q}(\zeta_5)$
how did you encounter the question?
 
Haha, I agree. But it's at least plausible, right? There is a unique way to embed Z_4 in Z_12
 
the fields $Q(\zeta_5)$ and $Q(\zeta_{13})$ are "disjoint"
linearly disjoint is the technical term
 
but then your confusion is dissolved
 
Oh dear.
 
3:49 AM
Except I'm not that guy.
 
lol, sorry
 
bye mariano
 
See ya.
@EricGregor What's yoru background man?
 
in what sense?
 
3:51 AM
I mean, are you a grad student, etc. etc.
 
i like your website, by the way
 
You ask some good questions
Oh, thank!
 
i'm an anonymous, first year grad student
at an anonymous institution
 
So $\Bbb{Z}/4\Bbb{Z}$ is a subgroup of $\Bbb{Z}/12\Bbb{Z}$ and $\Bbb{Z}/12\Bbb{Z}\cong(\Bbb{Z}/13\Bbb{Z})^{\times}\cong\operatorname{Gal}(\Bbb{‌​Q}(\zeta_{13})/\Bbb{Q})$ and $\Bbb{Z}/4\Bbb{Z}\cong(\Bbb{Z}/5\Bbb{Z})^{\times}\cong\operatorname({Gal}\Bbb{Q}(\‌​zeta_{5})/\Bbb{Q})$ But $$\operatorname({Gal}\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{5})/\Bbb{Q})\not\subset\operatorname{Gal} (\Bbb{ Q }(\zeta_{13})/\Bbb{Q})$$?
 
But with a visible name? haha
 
3:52 AM
i think i ask some stupid questions
that's not my real name
 
Jesus dude, it's kind of hard to read LaTeX like that
What are your interests?
@EricGregor
@DavidK I think the idea is this. Is $\mathbb{Q}[x]$ isomorphic to $\mathbb{Q}[x]^2$ as abelian groups?
 
i'm interested in a lot. i'm not exactly sure what i want to study. maybe algebraic geometry
but i know so little of it, so i don't know
i also like number theory
 
Haha! Don't we all! I love number theory as well.
 
number theory for the win!
 
@DavidK Or, perhaps a better question, is Z isomorphic to 2Z as groups?
 
3:54 AM
@AlexYoucis Umm no. (sheepishly)
 
isomorphism doesn't mean equal
they are isomorphic
 
Sorry to interrupt. I've tried multiple times to think of a particular matrix whose left and right eigenvectors are different, but I just keep failing. Anybody want to help me out?
 
It is. Q[x] is isomorphic to Q[x]^2--so you could think about Q[x] as being EQUAL to Q[x]^2--but it's also equal to Q[x] times {0} which lives inside Q[x]^2. In other words, there are a lot of ways in which Q[x] embeds into Q[x]^2. So, it's bad form to say Q[x] sits inside Q[x]^2 unless it's obvious in which way you mean. In your case it is obvious ONLY because there is a unique embedding Z_4 -->Z_12
 
@NicoBellic have you tried a random operator?
 
@DavidK
 
3:58 AM
@EricGregor I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that. What is it?
 
pick a random 3 by 3 matrix with nonzero determinant and find its eigenvectors
 
@AlexYoucis I think I see what you're getting at.
 
right and left
show us what you find
 
@DavidK Yeah, I wasn't here for the beginning of the discussion but it sounds like a poorly worded question.
 
Let me give it a shot.
 
4:00 AM
hallo
does anyone know subset math well
 
i know a subset of math, does that count?
 
lol
 
does it have to be measurable?
 
i'm trying to solve a subset problem and it is kicking my butt
 
@AlexYoucis Ok so, there is a subgroup $\Bbb{Z}/4\Bbb{Z}$ in $\Bbb{Z}/12\Bbb{Z}$ and $\Bbb{Z}/12\Bbb{Z}\cong(\Bbb{Z}/13\Bbb{Z})^{\times}\cong\text{Gal}(\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_‌​{13})/\Bbb{Q})$. So I'm trying to find the subfield of $\Bbb{Q}(\zeta_{13})$ that corresponds to the quotient $\Bbb{Z}/3\Bbb{Z}$ in $\Bbb{Z}/12\Bbb{Z}$
 
4:02 AM
what is a subset problem?
 
a problem dealing with sets of sets
 
david, you already found it
 
So, you know that the Galois group must have been $Z_4$?
 
you found the automorphism
and you can determine the fixed field
 
Yes.
 
4:03 AM
problem solved
if you want to find the explicit description you need to play around
 
You mean the fixed field corresponding to $Z_{4}$ ?
 
i meant $\mathbb{Z}/3$
because you are factoring out $\mathbb{Z}/4$, no?
 
@EricGregor Right.
 
$\mathbb{Z}_n$ is poor notation. don't forget the p-adics use the same notation
 
Well I thought Alex was referring to the generic Cyclic group with 4 elements
 
4:06 AM
i have to go. i think you're basically done but these other guys can help you out
goodnight all
 
Thanks
 
@EricGregor how can I calculate the left eigenvectors using a calculator if the standard is using right. (I've chosen a non-zero determinant, non-symmetric 3x3 matrix)
 
4:23 AM
hi
 
@NicoBellic Left eigenvectors are right-eigenvectors of the transpose
@anilorap Hi :)
 
:)
 
@AntonioVargas That makes sense. That's why R.E are the transpose of L.E when A is symmetric
 
@NicoBellic Yeah, exactly.
 
Am trying to prove that up to isomorphism, Z6 and S3 are the only groups of order 6.
 
4:34 AM
@anilorap You clearly have that any group G of order 6 is a semi direct product Z_3\rtimes Z_2..there are clearly on two maps Z_2-->Aut(Z_3)=Z_2--thus only two distinct isomorphism classes (they are distinct since one is abelian and the other not)
 
mm
i kind understand the first point... but i dont understand that map
 
Do you understand what semidirect products are?
 
yea kind of
 
Well, then, be more specific as to what you are confused about.
 
well i know i can write Z6 as a direct product of Z3xZ2
 
4:45 AM
Sure, which corresponds to the trivial map Z_2-->Aut(Z_3)
@tb What suggestion were you referring to when you said "I'd appreciate it if we established as a rule that only people should give book recommendations who actually answer questions on the topic. </rant> "
 
@AlexYoucis It wasn't the suggestion; it was the person making it.
 
@BrianMScott Ok, haha, I'm curious as to who it was.
 
thats what i dont understand.. Z2-->??
 
@anilorap So, take a look at this page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semidirect_product and see if it starts to make more sense.
 
@AlexYoucis The accepted answer here.
 
4:49 AM
@BrianMScott That guy looks like he literally only answers questions about books/book suggestions.
 
That's just about right. And some other soft questions.
 
But, it says he's a grad student at CUNY?
 
What on earth is the point here?
(I don't understand the limit Mosher is writing and I must be hallucinating if what I said does not work)
 
@tb He's taking the limit of the amount that remains after $n$ stages. He's right: you need to decrease the fraction taken at each stage. If you take a constant fraction, you end up with a null set.
 
@tb see here under the "Cantor sets with positive measure" heading, too
 

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